This is mostly to =^Alannah^= and for any other GM as well.
So thats it.
You open a server, get as much donation as you can in the first 2 weeks, and then gives no support on anything. No balance , no events, no nothing. Trade bugs out, we need to wait 2 days for a fix. You dont get in game anymore , takes forever to reply on forum (if you reply at all). You just wait for people to leave and server to fail.
After that, you just go and open a new server. Rinse and repeat, right?
Dont get me wrong, im not pissed about the donations. $20 or so wont make me starve, but the time we spend on this server , playing , questing , farming and gearing up , was problaby more time than you spent "planning" or giving support to Ayrin.
So please, care to explaing why are you opening a new server, if , as it is proven, you cant even run Ayrin well? Is there anything different you'll do as GM on that new server? I dont really believe so, otherwise theres no reason you wouldnt do it here as well, right?
You might think this is a flaming post, but its far away from that. All i really want to know is why did you open this server in first place, if you were not willing (or do not had the competence) to support it as GM, AND, why are you opening a new one , if you cant even fix the one thats already running?
I guess the players just deserve to know if they gonna farm everyting else again just to be left alone on that new server or if you actually gonna do something diferent.
Id really love to get some replys from =^Alannah^= here, so she could enlighten us, and hopefully , topic wont get deleted becouse i said something you didnt want to hear.
Hellbound extender is funded by us. ^Teqi^ was the idea giver, who kept spamming the staff. Probably we put more money in HB than we put into other stuffs..
At the really beginning the development were going, lets say fast and good. There were 2 developers both enjoying the profit of it. If we go even deeper into details 1 fix, 1 patch or 1 hand movement .. 1 file opening started at 100 euro. Sometime a patch cost 200 eur. Someone might think L2OFF files are cheap and you get it everywhere... no, quality files and especially this HB which created from scratch, literally from 0 cost 5 digit euros in total by now. Time has passed and 1 dev gone, quited developing. The remaining one no matter if we keep paying the same ... he is AFK, not replying, that's why you experienced delays in fixes. There's bugs and exploits that are not even patched up, and 99.9999% won't be ever. We can't do anything because the extender developer is not responding to us no matter how much we spam or look for him. We can state that HB development is stopped on extender level, not because of us, we can't work with these files if they are going outdated.
On other hand, It's announced none of the DN servers are going down, all remain online. Even tho this part of the staff ... we are not connected to Dragon server at all. It's Glasy and whoever know who.
Most part of the donations are paid into OVH datacenter to renew machines, idk how much income was in this server because it's not handled by me at all. All I know machines are renewed for another 6 month.
In this new Interlude, we are paying advertisement from pocket...
I'm not gonna saying this rude or being cokcy, but it's a x75 server (with runes!!!) what do we talk about gearing and time spent on it?
It's a free to play Private realm. Just like few years ago I was playing several servers, i was nolifing and what? i spent uncountable hours on these private servers and they are all gone. I did not feel bad about all these gone cause I played for fun and I had fun but as all private realms most of them will die eventually, ppl leave and thats it.
We had few gms on this new server, I can't do much if they are not active. I'm in charge for myself only. I had less time due to irl work, irl > hobby. We do these as hobby, free to play. You choose.
Yes we will keep doing these as hobby. Hellbound simply isn't developed anymore, we can't do anything. Only available STABLE files are IL,GF,GE,Hi5 for us. I'd love tho a Classic but they ask too much money for it and it's only RENT, no files we get.
I think I answered that part why we couldn't run smoothly Ayrin and HB servers. (developer issues)
Why we open new server? It's autumn, ppl are willing to spend more time at pc at these seasons. I can show here EGO: There are no good low rate IL server around. We have quality IL files with support for any issues. We can do good IL retail.
Possibly I won't be doing anything unusual than doing here on HB, That's why we have ^Floki^. I personally know him IRL, I put my trust in him and I believe he will serve better than any of the gms ever. OFC this gone to business, paid as irl job.
About current Ayrin, I'd turn server into instant pvp server, few shops to be changed, different rewards or prices
Quote from: =^Alannah^= on September 10, 2017, 02:27:50 PM
About current Ayrin, I'd turn server into instant pvp server, few shops to be changed, different rewards or prices
Please do this. There is no "real multi-sub" pvp server arround.
Also i'd like to see, that we could get top gear not only by crafting, but also by killing some RB's. there are tons of raids on different level, that could drop top end gear. I think this will be more attractive for players on different levels, that he could grind gear through lvling process. And when he would reach lvl 80, he ll be ready for battle.
Quote from: =^Alannah^= on September 10, 2017, 02:27:50 PM
About current Ayrin, I'd turn server into instant pvp server, few shops to be changed, different rewards or prices
Seems interesting to me :>
Quote from: =^Alannah^= on September 10, 2017, 02:27:50 PM
About current Ayrin, I'd turn server into instant pvp server, few shops to be changed, different rewards or prices
+ from me. Great idea ! A lot of ppl dont have time for farm.
To make it shor Ayrin server rocks best than all together except Tarantula.
So put in there some pvp events like Tvt or towns turning in pvp zones etc.
Quote from: =^Alannah^= on September 10, 2017, 02:27:50 PM
About current Ayrin, I'd turn server into instant pvp server, few shops to be changed, different rewards or prices
Can u list the changes ? And when ?
thursday i have dayoff and weekend
ofc changes will be listed
Nice to hear that. Curious to ser whats coming and if who left server will be back.
Any possible to increase number of Evils in Anomic Foundry?
I added extra mobs there already but they have special AI which makes them spawn this weird way
anyhow i can check on it too, its not big thing
Thanks for the reply. Feels much better to know what happened.
As sugestion , id rework all Anomic Foundry. Remove all the "useless mobs" there, maybe make custom ones with lots of HP and stats that drops evil weapons , so players would actually need a party to farm those. Since its pvp zone, people would be fighting for that spot, party vs party. That would make a great place to farm and find pvp at any time.
Note:
I know you are super excited about changing Serv into instant pvp and it's ok. However I love it's pve side - lineage is game where at endgame you need big group of players to achieve something. In stacksub Serv like this it's far easier to do stuff - group of three has the power of 6 or even more when made well. It's true that being on top 10 or 20 players needs a lot farm - but it will never change, this game is gamble- even if you get free s stuff it can always be enchanted , skills too , augments , attributes.
Having that said it's Really hard for me to find lot things that require change - of course pvp keeps ppl busy , but gearing up does the job too. If you get all things on plate you get bored quickly.
Quote from: Malv on September 12, 2017, 11:57:40 PM
Note:
I know you are super excited about changing Serv into instant pvp and it's ok. However I love it's pve side - lineage is game where at endgame you need big group of players to achieve something. In stacksub Serv like this it's far easier to do stuff - group of three has the power of 6 or even more when made well. It's true that being on top 10 or 20 players needs a lot farm - but it will never change, this game is gamble- even if you get free s stuff it can always be enchanted , skills too , augments , attributes.
Having that said it's Really hard for me to find lot things that require change - of course pvp keeps ppl busy , but gearing up does the job too. If you get all things on plate you get bored quickly.
I agree with u, i think some farm will keep ppl interested
Quote from: naughtyelf on September 13, 2017, 12:39:49 AM
I agree with u, i think some farm will keep ppl interested
Time to farm :-) and good pvp :-)
Quote from: naughtyelf on September 13, 2017, 12:39:49 AM
I agree with u, i think some farm will keep ppl interested
Thats what everyone know since the beggining of time, the game is at its best in the early game when u actually have to pvp over casual spots, where you actually have to spend some time to get something. Even HR1 when it was not especially low rate, i remember PVP's everywhere, Fortress of Resistance/Cruma/DV/VoS/FotD/LoA/Fog/IT/Pagan/mos. This was the greatest entrance pvp's from all recent DNET servers. First competitions over retail bosses, epics damn thats the way to start a server =).
And this VERY slight margin of players with motto "i dont have time give me all for free just pvp" u can see already on Ayrin and its population nowadays, they are not even counting for 1% of players, yet they are usually the loudest. Whether its x0.1 or x5000 it doesnt matter, in both situation this kind of players will always be behind with the difference and they will never attend to this "pvp" since they have to gear up to catch up...
(https://i.imgflip.com/1ppi4p.jpg).
Ayrin example, time needed for enemies to accept war ? Never happened. There was fun first days, later the only competetive pt left and the rest was in full farm mode on this "low" rate pff
Quote from: Peorexo on September 13, 2017, 08:53:41 AM
Thats what everyone know since the beggining of time, the game is at its best in the early game when u actually have to pvp over casual spots, where you actually have to spend some time to get something. Even HR1 when it was not especially low rate, i remember PVP's everywhere, Fortress of Resistance/Cruma/DV/VoS/FotD/LoA/Fog/IT/Pagan/mos. This was the greatest entrance pvp's from all recent DNET servers. First competitions over retail bosses, epics damn thats the way to start a server =).
And this VERY slight margin of players with motto "i dont have time give me all for free just pvp" u can see already on Ayrin and its population nowadays, they are not even counting for 1% of players, yet they are usually the loudest. Whether its x0.1 or x5000 it doesnt matter, in both situation this kind of players will always be behind with the difference and they will never attend to this "pvp" since they have to gear up to catch up...
(https://i.imgflip.com/1ppi4p.jpg).
Ayrin example, time needed for enemies to accept war ? Never happened. There was fun first days, later the only competetive pt left and the rest was in full farm mode on this "low" rate pff
Quote from: Peorexo on September 13, 2017, 08:53:41 AM
Thats what everyone know since the beggining of time, the game is at its best in the early game when u actually have to pvp over casual spots, where you actually have to spend some time to get something. Even HR1 when it was not especially low rate, i remember PVP's everywhere, Fortress of Resistance/Cruma/DV/VoS/FotD/LoA/Fog/IT/Pagan/mos. This was the greatest entrance pvp's from all recent DNET servers. First competitions over retail bosses, epics damn thats the way to start a server =).
And this VERY slight margin of players with motto "i dont have time give me all for free just pvp" u can see already on Ayrin and its population nowadays, they are not even counting for 1% of players, yet they are usually the loudest. Whether its x0.1 or x5000 it doesnt matter, in both situation this kind of players will always be behind with the difference and they will never attend to this "pvp" since they have to gear up to catch up...
(https://i.imgflip.com/1ppi4p.jpg).
Ayrin example, time needed for enemies to accept war ? Never happened. There was fun first days, later the only competetive pt left and the rest was in full farm mode on this "low" rate pff
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Still even now 80% pvp points / heroes are made by Fear :))) there was enough action in the last months...only this last 2 weeks were kinda low...
And you could always pk farmers and still get RC :))) that's what most of us did.
Quote from: reddragonjr on September 14, 2017, 04:24:44 AM
Still even now 80% pvp points / heroes are made by Fear :))) there was enough action in the last months...only this last 2 weeks were kinda low...
And you could always pk farmers and still get RC :))) that's what most of us did.
Well yeah you can always PK, but I do not really agree of rewarding PK'ing the way it is done here, for sure not with PVP point. It makes me sick seeing how some trash players get high on pvp list only because they go on low lvl areas and go PK rampage... (tho they are always few TIERS below)
I do love the way PutinPK was doing his rampages on RU servers though, this guy shows how its done :D.
Quote from: Peorexo on September 14, 2017, 05:13:53 PM
Well yeah you can always PK, but I do not really agree of rewarding PK'ing the way it is done here, for sure not with PVP point. It makes me sick seeing how some trash players get high on pvp list only because they go on low lvl areas and go PK rampage...
Exactly my toughts when i've seen Neon 1st on pvp list on HR1.
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Quote from: Peorexo on September 14, 2017, 05:13:53 PM
Well yeah you can always PK, but I do not really agree of rewarding PK'ing the way it is done here, for sure not with PVP point. It makes me sick seeing how some trash players get high on pvp list only because they go on low lvl areas and go PK rampage... (tho they are always few TIERS below)
I do love the way PutinPK was doing his rampages on RU servers though, this guy shows how its done :D.
You don't get any pvp points at pk that would been really sh1t and ruined all gameplay, you get just RC (reward coins) :D
Quote from: Naiz on September 14, 2017, 05:48:14 PM
Exactly my toughts when i've seen Neon 1st on pvp list on HR1.
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
O ty kurwa gnoju
i got on ol/ee 2nd pk place i dont play since 1 month so no1 play here any more?
Quote from: l33thax on September 15, 2017, 04:13:12 PM
i got on ol/ee 2nd pk place i dont play since 1 month so no1 play here any more?
What a wonderful way of thinking
Quote from: l33thax on September 15, 2017, 04:13:12 PM
i got on ol/ee 2nd pk place i dont play since 1 month so no1 play here any more?
any more he he
did they even play here?
Any news about changes ?
Come on, Alannah. We still have hope.
Tell us some news.
Quote from: Chipprel on September 20, 2017, 07:14:52 PM
Come on, Alannah. We still have hope.
Tell us some news.
Yeah.. We still waiting for some news about Ayrin :D
that is not meant for "our own" updates, extender development stopped by the developer itself, we don't get updates from him cause he is not replying
Patience, high rate players.
let's see how much patience will have your low rate players :) and yep, delete this post aswell xD
Quote from: Blizzer on September 21, 2017, 08:27:23 PM
let's see how much patience will have your low rate players :) and yep, delete this post aswell xD
Its ok blizz
Yeah put some updates Track we need the ppl back there :)
Quote from: reddragonjr on September 22, 2017, 04:04:49 AM
Yeah put some updates Track we need the ppl back there :)
These updates would have to be completly gamechanging to even hope about bringing ppl back here. Not saying it's impossible tho.
Need fast ubdates, it's not good if you log to game and on market you can see : server is dead, server is dead
Quote from: Mori on September 22, 2017, 06:31:43 PM
Need fast ubdates, it's not good if you log to game and on market you can see : server is dead, server is dead
u will not find ppl for high rates no updates gonna bring ppl :D
Server need more votes, more fight, events for fighters. Maybe some movie from events, online oly fight on websites would help ppl to choose this serv. Pvp serv is nice for playing where the are ppl, ppl are on such serv when they can fight and can be the best of the best.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on September 21, 2017, 08:25:10 PM
Patience, high rate players.
Staff said cant make updates yet. But we can talk about those updates.
Quote from: =^Alannah^= on September 21, 2017, 06:52:21 PM
that is not meant for "our own" updates, extender development stopped by the developer itself, we don't get updates from him cause he is not replying
DN just have 1 dev, Drake cant help us ?
Quote from: pressman on September 25, 2017, 10:11:46 PM
DN just have 1 dev, Drake cant help us ?
This is related to an external dev, which isnt replying anymore or it is very slow in it. However, we will reorganise Aryin acordingly when time comes.
::) ::) ::)
lul guys, get over it
Ayrin was summer/high rate server - summer is over so does server.
Any information about any changes? Forum is dying, server is dying or is it already dead?
Clowns.
haha i forgot this topic even existed :D:D
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The server still has lots of action but...retards bsoe or run...I'm just 1 man... even debuffed most the times but who care they still die.
There are group pvp's to like 4-5 each side,9vs9 or more, but few ppl from clan who still play prefer like me to hunt alone 3-5 or even 1 pt depends of luck :)
some fresh meat from today but it was a casual day... 1 man army like always :D
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sucks I never fraps :( would been so many nice videos.I need one sidekick like Admiral to fraps hehe
Quote from: reddragonjr on October 25, 2017, 05:18:06 AM
sucks I never fraps :( would been so many nice videos.I need one sidekick like Admiral to fraps hehe
Already taken, waitin in Balder :D
Quote from: Peorexo on October 25, 2017, 08:29:28 AM
Already taken, waitin in Balder :D
why is this ss2 warrior that plays th/glad without th or glad skills with our crest ? :'(
Quote from: stanko on October 25, 2017, 08:46:08 AM
why is this ss2 warrior that plays th/glad without th or glad skills with our crest ? :'(
no idea bro, some hijacking
Quote from: reddragonjr on October 25, 2017, 05:18:06 AM
sucks I never fraps :( would been so many nice videos.I need one sidekick like Admiral to fraps hehe
Quote from: Peorexo on October 25, 2017, 08:29:28 AM
Already taken, waitin in Balder :D
Haha damn dude just start frapsing bud! ::) Yeah I'm taken, leeching exp and watching Peo die to mobs is a blast :D
Quote from: Easley on October 25, 2017, 12:37:49 PM
Haha damn dude just start frapsing bud! ::) Yeah I'm taken, leeching exp and watching Peo die to mobs is a blast :D
Cmon thats also part of the grand plan xD
Quote from: stanko on October 25, 2017, 08:46:08 AM
why is this ss2 warrior that plays th/glad without th or glad skills with our crest ? :'(
hahaha well friends wanted me there long ago although I preferred playing clanless.
The noobs I kill on melee with 1st skill bar aka farm bar...10th is th bar 9 is glad bar.I'm fast in hands 3 chars in 1 th/gl/he.
And don't worry all server hate me,the clan and some from it ( they die ) good advertising :D
Quote from: Easley on October 25, 2017, 12:37:49 PM
Haha damn dude just start frapsing bud! ::) Yeah I'm taken, leeching exp and watching Peo die to mobs is a blast :D
much action bro :D
Quote from: Peorexo on October 25, 2017, 08:29:28 AM
Already taken, waitin in Balder :D
:D yeah he quit 1 month ago or so.I play on Balder to with few but adena is kinda rekt and no pvp announcement message :-\