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Pros and Cons of Weed smoking, The Union 2

Started by UrbanJustice, June 24, 2009, 05:44:47 PM

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UrbanJustice


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007&ei=laArSqr4CMaF-Qbl8IS-CQ&q=the+union

Here's one of the Best documentaries, conserning Weed or Marijuana. I urge you to see it and i wanna comment the + and - of weed smoking/abuse

Anyway first topic was overly long, so i want a fresh one with more ppl taking part in it. I'll let each one of you express their point of view and give an argument.
Relax, take it easy :)
http://files.filefront.com/RelaxTakeItEasydivx/;7332972;/fileinfo.html

kidicarus

Pssst..... Insert the link to the movie.....

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kidicarus

Psst... here it is
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007&ei=laArSqr4CMaF-Qbl8IS-CQ&q=the+union

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UrbanJustice

freak... i should stop making topics while wasted
Relax, take it easy :)
http://files.filefront.com/RelaxTakeItEasydivx/;7332972;/fileinfo.html

Sarvi

#5
Since the discussion has stopped, I think it's a good time to post a few "reports"
about Cannabis and drugs in general.

The first one was published by EMCDDA (European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction)
maybe a year ago. It doesn't just take a look on the health-effects of Cannabis, it also tries
to study other aspects of Cannabis (Such as production, "harm reduction"-policies etc.).  
It's fairly long (~700 pages), but extremely informative and well indexed (For those who don't
want to read all of it .:)).

http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/monographs/cannabis

The second one takes a look at Portugal. 8 years ago the use of all drugs was decriminalized
in Portugal. Now that some time has passed, the people at Cato Institute decided to find out
what the results are. I think it's needless to say that there was no apocalypse, drugged out
zombies don't rule the streets and the children of Portugal aren't all doing drugs. The results
clearly show that decriminalization model is far better for the addicts, potential addicts,
innocent bystanders and the whole society.

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10080

Spread these around pl0x.

ps. I forgot to tell I was going to the Finnish Lapland with a few friends in my last post, so I was away
for a bit longer time than just the Juhannus-weekend. Had fun and even made a short crusade into Sweden
(Failed to loot anything.).  :D
Flower power, bitches! And no, I'm not a beatnik.
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zegato


The second one takes a look at Portugal. 8 years ago the use of all drugs was decriminalized
in Portugal. Now that some time has passed, the people at Cato Institute decided to find out
what the results are. I think it's needless to say that there was no apocalypse, drugged out
zombies don't rule the streets and the children of Portugal aren't all doing drugs. The results
clearly show that decriminalization model is far better for the addicts, potential addicts,
innocent bystanders and the whole society.


I don´t know where you from, even if you are from Portugal what you said is wrong.
I live in Portugal, and everyone knows that drugs aren´t decriminalized, you can have a certain quantity of it with you in case of cannabis 2.5g, even so its still illegal to consume in public places, sell etc...
So basically here you can have drugs with you, but you can`t buy them ( legally ofc), or consume them, and if you exceed the maximum amount permited by law by 7.5g (which means you have 10g with you) you are considered a drug dealer and even if you dont go to jail cuz you can explain to the cops the situation you have a lot of trouble with justice and if you are under 21 with your parents too :D.

Sarvi

Quote from: zegato on July 02, 2009, 08:08:48 PM
I don´t know where you from, even if you are from Portugal what you said is wrong.
I live in Portugal, and everyone knows that drugs aren´t decriminalized, you can have a certain quantity of it with you in case of cannabis 2.5g, even so its still illegal to consume in public places, sell etc...
So basically here you can have drugs with you, but you can`t buy them ( legally ofc), or consume them, and if you exceed the maximum amount permited by law by 7.5g (which means you have 10g with you) you are considered a drug dealer and even if you dont go to jail cuz you can explain to the cops the situation you have a lot of trouble with justice and if you are under 21 with your parents too :D.

I think you're mixing up the terminology a bit since you're actually describing pretty much a "textbook" example of
decriminalization. Decriminalization doesn't mean legalization. Decriminalization doesn't mean that the decriminalized act,
substance, service or whatever is legal. It's still against the law, but it's not a criminal act. Just like jaywalking isn't
considered a crime, but an "offence" (Atleast where I live.).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decriminalization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalization
Flower power, bitches! And no, I'm not a beatnik.
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kidicarus

#9
Quote from: Sarvi on July 02, 2009, 05:44:47 PM
Since the discussion has stopped, I think it's a good time to post a few "reports"
about Cannabis and drugs in general.

The first one was published by EMCDDA (European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction)
maybe a year ago. It doesn't just take a look on the health-effects of Cannabis, it also tries
to study other aspects of Cannabis (Such as production, "harm reduction"-policies etc.).  
It's fairly long (~700 pages), but extremely informative and well indexed (For those who don't
want to read all of it .:)).

http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/monographs/cannabis

The second one takes a look at Portugal. 8 years ago the use of all drugs was decriminalized
in Portugal. Now that some time has passed, the people at Cato Institute decided to find out
what the results are. I think it's needless to say that there was no apocalypse, drugged out
zombies don't rule the streets and the children of Portugal aren't all doing drugs. The results
clearly show that decriminalization model is far better for the addicts, potential addicts,
innocent bystanders and the whole society.

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10080

Spread these around pl0x.

ps. I forgot to tell I was going to the Finnish Lapland with a few friends in my last post, so I was away
for a bit longer time than just the Juhannus-weekend. Had fun and even made a short crusade into Sweden
(Failed to loot anything.).  :D

Nice links sarvi. Read the one about decriminalization in portugal... not exactly news, but i bet theres alot of ppl here that have no idea that there's countries who have such druglaws.
Haven't been to portugal myself, but i hear it's a beautiful prosperous country, and according to the report there's very few who wants to go back to the old 2001 laws. So why isn't decriminalisation the standard for more countries?

Started reading the 700 page report aswell..... Gonna rain all day tommorow, so hopefully i will have read it by then, so far it's really interesting :)

Would be fun though if ppl could discuss a little with us..... so far we got like 200 Pro's and 0 Con's, but it feels like we're 3 ppl discussing this and we are all on the same side. Not much of a discussion. More of a friendly conversation and that is starting to get boring.


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