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[WindPhoenix]

Yo Jimmie!

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7077

[kidicarus]

Yo Jimmie!

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7077

I gotta register to see taht.... copy paste it menx

[TheLox]

Maximum pain is aim of new US weapon

   * 19:00 02 March 2005 by David Hambling
   * For similar stories, visit the Weapons Technology Topic Guide

The US military is funding development of a weapon that delivers a bout of excruciating pain from up to 2 kilometres away. Intended for use against rioters, it is meant to leave victims unharmed. But pain researchers are furious that work aimed at controlling pain has been used to develop a weapon. And they fear that the technology will be used for torture.

"I am deeply concerned about the ethical aspects of this research," says Andrew Rice, a consultant in pain medicine at Chelsea and Westminster Hospital in London, UK. "Even if the use of temporary severe pain can be justified as a restraining measure, which I do not believe it can, the long-term physical and psychological effects are unknown."

The research came to light in documents unearthed by the Sunshine Project, an organisation based in Texas and in Hamburg, Germany, that exposes biological weapons research. The papers were released under the US's Freedom of Information Act.

One document, a research contract between the Office of Naval Research and the University of Florida in Gainesville, US, is entitled "Sensory consequences of electromagnetic pulses emitted by laser induced plasmas".

It concerns so-called Pulsed Energy Projectiles (PEPs), which fire a laser pulse that generates a burst of expanding plasma when it hits something solid, like a person (New Scientist print edition, 12 October 2002). The weapon, destined for use in 2007, could literally knock rioters off their feet.
Pain trigger

According to a 2003 review of non-lethal weapons by the US Naval Studies Board, which advises the navy and marine corps, PEPs produced "pain and temporary paralysis" in tests on animals. This appears to be the result of an electromagnetic pulse produced by the expanding plasma which triggers impulses in nerve cells.

The new study, which runs until July and will be carried out with researchers at the University of Central Florida in Orlando, aims to optimise this effect. The idea is to work out how to generate a pulse which triggers pain neurons without damaging tissue.

The contract, heavily censored before release, asks researchers to look for "optimal pulse parameters to evoke peak nociceptor activation" - in other words, cause the maximum pain possible. Studies on cells grown in the lab will identify how much pain can be inflicted on someone before causing injury or death.
Long-term risk

New Scientist contacted two researchers working on the project. Martin Richardson, a laser expert at the University of Central Florida, US, refused to comment. Brian Cooper, an expert in dental pain at the University of Florida, distanced himself from the work, saying "I don't have anything interesting to convey. I was just providing some background for the group." His name appears on a public list of the university's research projects next to the $500,000-plus grant.

John Wood of University College London, UK, an expert in how the brain perceives pain, says the researchers involved in the project should face censure. "It could be used for torture," he says, "the [researchers] must be aware of this."

Amanda Williams, a clinical psychologist at University College London, fears that victims risk long-term harm. "Persistent pain can result from a range of supposedly non-destructive stimuli which nevertheless change the functioning of the nervous system," she says. She is concerned that studies of cultured cells will fall short of demonstrating a safe level for a plasma burst. "They cannot tell us about the pain and psychological consequences of such a painful experience."

[kidicarus]

Yo Jimmie!

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7077

Ok... Dunno why you posted this for me though Sounds like that microwave weapon i saw a documentary about like a year ago. Does it look like a sattelite dish mounted on a jeep?

[WindPhoenix]

Ok... Dunno why you posted this for me though Sounds like that microwave weapon i saw a documentary about like a year ago. Does it look like a sattelite dish mounted on a jeep?

i saw you were interested in that "wind vortex" weapon, and this is smth similar by use.
+ i like "smart" topics on this forum, not only flames.

[Herza]

i saw you were interested in that "wind vortex" weapon, and this is smth similar by use.
+ i like "smart" topics on this forum, not only flames.

You could like...send him  a pm and not creating new topic lol....spammer.

[kidicarus]

i saw you were interested in that "wind vortex" weapon, and this is smth similar by use.
+ i like "smart" topics on this forum, not only flames.

Hehe ok, but are you sure that was me dude? I don't think i replied in the wind vortex cannon topic did i?


PS. I still think it's that microwavesattelitedishcarthingy that i saw on discovery a while ago Was also designed to induce pain from far away to control crowds and stuff. Was pretty cool, it's like a humwee with a massive pain augment.

[Ashlynn]

Hehe ok, but are you sure that was me dude? I don't think i replied in the wind vortex cannon topic did i?


PS. I still think it's that microwavesattelitedishcarthingy that i saw on discovery a while ago Was also designed to induce pain from far away to control crowds and stuff. Was pretty cool, it's like a humwee with a massive pain augment.

Ye I saw that one as well. It was kinda scary to see its power

[Mr. Emiel]

Penis?

[TheLox]

Hehe ok, but are you sure that was me dude? I don't think i replied in the wind vortex cannon topic did i?


PS. I still think it's that microwavesattelitedishcarthingy that i saw on discovery a while ago Was also designed to induce pain from far away to control crowds and stuff. Was pretty cool, it's like a humwee with a massive pain augment.

As you said, that thing is using micro-wave frequencies which causes heat on your body, even IN it. It's smth like with mob phone antennas (talking about big ones placed on repetitors (??)) and if you wanna work on them and you don't shout off before, take that you are cooked inside out.

[WindPhoenix]

Hehe ok, but are you sure that was me dude? I don't think i replied in the wind vortex cannon topic did i?


PS. I still think it's that microwavesattelitedishcarthingy that i saw on discovery a while ago Was also designed to induce pain from far away to control crowds and stuff. Was pretty cool, it's like a humwee with a massive pain augment.

this is a laser-induced plasma weapon that stuns and shocks the target, not a microwave one.

[kidicarus]

this is a laser-induced plasma weapon that stuns and shocks the target, not a microwave one.

It only looks like it emits microwaves, for all i know it might have been a laser-induced plasma weapon


My question though is what does this plasma do to other things then human flesh? What if your cellphone battery explodes in your pocket? What if your wearing some sort of strange jewelery that freaks up the beam? (metal in a microwave scenario perhaps?)

Im developing a weapon myself btw. And since im not a violent person i don't feel like inflicting physical pain on ppl, therefor i've invented the worlds first psychological weapon. I will use my amazing drawing skills to give you an idea of what im working on;



According to my calculations over 50% of protesters do it to feel important and/or to get with a girl/boy and 25% does it for the kick of meaningless violence. So once I tell them that they are lame and cover them in poop they will go home and feel humiliated (in theory).

And the best part is it's really cheap! You just need an old Ford escort (or something like that) and some redneck carfixing skills and you're good to go!