Sub for SH?

[Galeno]

sh/ps

[palladine]

Why se isnt a good sub u naabzords? U Think on robe u will get  same bonus as on heavy? Its not like that for me ps or se are best combo, BD is good for archer imo.

Yes, we know very good SH/SE
since GMs implemented "gracia POWi" and major heal  SE is the best buffer, for pt of course
for mass pvp OL is the best

[kidicarus]

I think SH/SK...

I have SK and SH so i think is the best choice.
you forgot about good cubics, especially vampiric. you have also UD final fortress and some passives/acticve skills for your shield.
lightning strike and good drains.
SH with SK sub is much stronger and its more advantage then SE sub. You can make SE/BD for support (the best support for nuker).

Lightning strike, yes! Freezing strike and cubics (NOT vampiric though cause it sucks sideways) and great shield defence.

SH/SK would be my choice, not as strong as SH/PS..... but atleast it's playable without recharge-bots and full pt.

[Chad]

Lightning strike, yes! Freezing strike and cubics (NOT vampiric though cause it sucks sideways) and great shield defence.

SH/SK would be my choice, not as strong as SH/PS..... but atleast it's playable without recharge-bots and full pt.

SH is the mage with lowest  mana regen, so any sub  u make on it u will need a recharger or just be wise with ur mana pots, with one pp/bd or even a pp or wc without sub u can farm very easy :p the combo with sk is nice for shield defence and lighting strike but, on robe is note same bonus than on hvy for sof, ud, vengance. SE have nice heals and almost good buffs ( like i sayd with a pp or wc behind u can farm easy), same as if u make PS with stunning cubic u can kill a lot of ppls there taht sh1t land very often even with 2k  more m defence or zaken :p, so, sh/se nice heal and buffs, sh/ps transfer pain, cubics, mage bane for mages warrior bane for fighters ( remove haste,ww empo and acu) and shadow heals u...

[kidicarus]

SH is the mage with lowest  mana regen, so any sub  u make on it u will need a recharger or just be wise with ur mana pots, with one pp/bd or even a pp or wc without sub u can farm very easy :p the combo with sk is nice for shield defence and lighting strike but, on robe is note same bonus than on hvy for sof, ud, vengance. SE have nice heals and almost good buffs ( like i sayd with a pp or wc behind u can farm easy), same as if u make PS with stunning cubic u can kill a lot of ppls there taht sh1t land very often even with 2k  more m defence or zaken :p, so, sh/se nice heal and buffs, sh/ps transfer pain, cubics, mage bane for mages warrior bane for fighters ( remove haste,ww empo and acu) and shadow heals u...

True, they nerfed UD Veng and SoF. But you still have awesome shield defence combined with deflect arrow. And vengance used to be 100% in robe, did they fix that?
Ohh and you got stun and aggro. Great for 1 vs 1 PvP's.

Bottom line is, nightshade even with 18k HP is about 2-3 arrows, and then you're just a tap away from death.
If you have like TOP gear, SH/PS could be great, but imo it drains to much MP.

[stanko]

servitor barrier!
period.

[Chad]

True, they nerfed UD Veng and SoF. But you still have awesome shield defence combined with deflect arrow. And vengance used to be 100% in robe, did they fix that?
Ohh and you got stun and aggro. Great for 1 vs 1 PvP's.

Bottom line is, nightshade even with 18k HP is about 2-3 arrows, and then you're just a tap away from death.
If you have like TOP gear, SH/PS could be great, but imo it drains to much MP.

i mean deflect arrow dont give same bonus as on hvy.

[kidicarus]

i mean deflect arrow dont give same bonus as on hvy.

Is that a new update I didn't hear of? Because on nightmare it always has, and as a result the damage diffrence for arrows on mage/tanks vs real heavy tanks is pretty much 0.

[Furesy]

Last time I checked Deflect arrow lvl 4 works same on Light and Heavy users, effect doesn't change.

[Fildonka]

Deflect arrow reduces dmg from arrows. Its fixed %. So it reduces for same rate. But with robe base dmg is much much higher than i heavy. So hits are still biger

[kidicarus]

Deflect arrow reduces dmg from arrows. Its fixed %. So it reduces for same rate. But with robe base dmg is much much higher than i heavy. So hits are still biger

It's not much higher. There's no problem getting to 2k p.def on a mage and combine that with 100% shield defence rate on 360degrees the diffrence kinda goes up in smoke.

[ANITNEGRA]

Wk/Sh....advantages and disadvantages?  look for them yourself