Bison

[+GekKey+]

Only thing is ty without de sub kinda sucks... also, didnt think so much about wc on oly ?. Normal wc get the shaft for an overpowered sub, and that isnt fair. Its simple, if you wanna nerf ty-de u must do it in 2 step.

1st step. You must nerf bison with any other weapon thans fist.
2nd. You must nerf frenzy/rage with fist

after that u gonna have balanced ty-de and ty.

[Phate]

relax  

...

mmmmm..... die? (fuking moron)

mmmmm.... relax? (***) 

[+GekKey+]

mmmmm..... die? (fuking moron)

suuure, thats all what u can get out? U cant  think or even admit that there is also unstacking mains and people that are without sub yet and its unfair for them ?

You make a class weaker cause u try to nerf something else.

[+GekKey+]

i'm already xD


the problem is that they shouldn't "NERF" ( i call it : fu ck up)   de/ty at all.

sooo what u mean by this ?

[ehlena]

Chnage was made on all servers, and we said we will disable solo raiding long ago. Ive see no reason to make new drama over it.

you should have disabled it years ago. It's a little too late, now, you see?

[SlimThug]

that was funny

seems U are one of those "pro" players that can only turn on zelot + frenzy + bizon and kill everything alone..
like it was said before nerfs should not destroy other classes... nerfing bizon kills tyrants , nerfing bizon with other weapon than fists sounds fair

[iMEXX]

how does bizon work atm ? 

[Saboteur]

seems U are one of those "pro" players that can only turn on zelot + frenzy + bizon and kill everything alone..
like it was said before nerfs should not destroy other classes... nerfing bizon kills tyrants , nerfing bizon with other weapon than fists sounds fair

See thats nice and i disagree with cryers posts about nerfing ty/de and as well i disagree with opinions you wrote for "why shuld we nerf ty/de"  .

Ty/de is char same as the others . U cna have OP ee/sps , u can have OP archer , ifu have the items . As i see it , ty/de was the only farm char for people without donations .

About the bulcrap "team play" . Dont nerf ty/de , but forbide dualbox , if u want teamplay .

About pvp " have you guys ever played ty/de in pvp ? Is not that easy as you are talking . Yes it have 20k+ patak , yes it have 1,6k atack speed with axe in Zealot (and dnet light) but all you need is BP with brain . Your bp shuld learn to "restore life" evry ork he see with fists/twohand . U can argue that "force barier cant be healed QQ" well yes.. but take him force barier and tyrant/destroyer ... have nothing . That is about pvp cryers .

For pve cryers i must say that the nerf is not rly any bad to farm . Evry exping is train matter anyway (rabbit + golem totem+spear ->or bear totem wotever) and taht your destro loose bizon will atleat push you to learn play your character .

[iMEXX]

how does bizon work atm ? 

mmmmmmmm

[dadija]

make anti bot sistem  FM

[StonerBashin]

This nerf as you call it is the best thing thats happened
1:not many solo rb 
2:now ty/xx can dominate in pvp/siege
people that are crying over it need to learn how to play tyrant

PS:PM undy for advice

[SlimThug]

anyway well, slimthug, when u want u can pvp against my pr/bd, np  , in this weeks i haven't so many time to log in coz personal things, but who know......

(failed?)

well we can pvp , I got spoiler lvl 76 subbed to tyrant (lvl 71 or 72 dont even remmember) not to mantion my equip
and why U talk about pvp with tyr/destro .. its killable class like every other
but I was talkign about killing mobs/raids. actually for me it looks like that ... some class is overpowered on this server, gms/admins/whatever dont do anything to make it balance .. they just nerf whole class (killing other possible subs not to mantion ppl without sub) or better .. make RB stronger = not posible to kill for normal players/other chars

ps. and yes would be much better if there was antybot system ... coz I dont believe in all those shops with materials , selling milions of some rare shits