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Started by Gideon, November 22, 2011, 06:19:02 PM

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MegaZord

Quote from: zenice on November 23, 2011, 10:56:40 AM
Yep, HE/GLAD still OP rigth zord?

For info and thanks to Duelist Spirit NERF wich takes 10% patk.
War Cry Lv.1 - Physical Skill
Increases P. Atk. by 20% for 1 minute.

War Cry Lv.2 - Physical Skill
Increases P. Atk. by 25% for 1 minute.

HE/GLAD have lv.2 skill but with the nerf it gets even lower than lvl.1 War Cry...
Just for info... Still 17k hits!!!! LOL!


P att. is not all and Chryzo u talking about pr/bd with ica bow+16. He/glad imo same p att with war cry lvl 2 as pr/bd. But he/glad got duelist spirit which give pvp bonus(yes -10 % patt) and also final secret. So still he/glad is strongest archer on this server. Dont forget we have here subs and need be some balance. Anyway is true some ppl go pvp w/o proper buff and getting big damage from classes like urs. Why no one play bp/pp ? This class even with top items and high enchanted skills on full buff would be 2-3 hits max for he/glad.
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still pr/bd would kill easy he/glad, with simlar eq ofc.
Let's cut tanks a bit, escpecially mage/tank coz it's sick when majesty and delfect arrow gives same effect with robe and heavy.
and don't forget final secret is only once per 2 min 30 , so let's nerf everything in this game.

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Quote from: Zaled on November 23, 2011, 02:28:54 PM
still pr/bd would kill easy he/glad, with simlar eq ofc.
Let's cut tanks a bit, escpecially mage/tank coz it's sick when majesty and delfect arrow gives same effect with robe and heavy.
and don't forget final secret is only once per 2 min 30 , so let's nerf everything in this game.

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Want to talk about Duelist Spirit?

"Increases dualsword weapon Atk. Spd. by 12% for 1 minute and ordinary/skill attack damage by 10% during PvP."

And I wonder why you use it with a bow, when it says "dualsword weapon".

Zaled

dualsword for a speed and it's works properly, in 2nd part of sentence there is no info it shouldn't work on other weapons.
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Gideon

Quote from: Zaled on November 23, 2011, 02:28:54 PM
still pr/bd would kill easy he/glad, with simlar eq ofc.
Let's cut tanks a bit, escpecially mage/tank coz it's sick when majesty and delfect arrow gives same effect with robe and heavy.
and don't forget final secret is only once per 2 min 30 , so let's nerf everything in this game.

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Majesty and Deflect Arrow gives the same bonus, BUT when u play a Mage/Tank u will have less P. Def (so less bonus from Majesty) and will take more damage from bows if u compare to a Fighter/Tank.

Btw about the screens i can't see Tyia's ATT protections correclty, if u could make it again pls. Also there's 2 buffs that decrease the Critical Damage, try to remake it with those buffs if possible.
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Gideon

Quote from: MIRAA on November 23, 2011, 03:13:22 PM
Want to talk about Duelist Spirit?

"Increases dualsword weapon Atk. Spd. by 12% for 1 minute and ordinary/skill attack damage by 10% during PvP."

And I wonder why you use it with a bow, when it says "dualsword weapon".

The Attack Speed bonus only works with Dual Swords, but the PVP bonus works with all kind of weapons (even with bow), but it gives -10% on P. Attack when u using a bow.

This -10% was made some time ago to balance this class a bit.
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zenice

Quote from: MegaZord on November 23, 2011, 01:13:16 PM
P att. is not all and Chryzo u talking about pr/bd with ica bow+16. He/glad imo same p att with war cry lvl 2 as pr/bd. But he/glad got duelist spirit which give pvp bonus(yes -10 % patt) and also final secret. So still he/glad is strongest archer on this server. Dont forget we have here subs and need be some balance. Anyway is true some ppl go pvp w/o proper buff and getting big damage from classes like urs. Why no one play bp/pp ? This class even with top items and high enchanted skills on full buff would be 2-3 hits max for he/glad.

So lets nerf pr/bd, cuz this class have more patk than he/glad, have mdef passive and deflect arrow, oh and have a skill called: Dead Eye Lv.8 - Physical Skill
For 2 minutes, when using a bow, increases one's own Accuracy by 3, P. Atk. by 199, and Critical Damage by 20%. Decreases Atk. Spd. by 10%. Requires a bow.
While a HE/GLAD have nothing of this, even duelist spirit is NERFED for "balance"... btw that pr/bd have ic+16 i have ic+15... HUGE diference idd!!
So the HE/GLAD should reroll to pr/bd and lets just kill this human figther combo.

zenice

Quote from: MIRAA on November 23, 2011, 03:13:22 PM
Want to talk about Duelist Spirit?

"Increases dualsword weapon Atk. Spd. by 12% for 1 minute and ordinary/skill attack damage by 10% during PvP."

And I wonder why you use it with a bow, when it says "dualsword weapon".

Duelist Spirit Lv.2 - Physical Skill
Increases dualsword weapon Atk. Spd. by 12% for 1 minute and ordinary/skill attack damage by 10% during PvP.

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raymax

dead eye decrease atack speed 20% not 10
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zenice

Quote from: Gideon on November 23, 2011, 03:32:09 PM
The Attack Speed bonus only works with Dual Swords, but the PVP bonus works with all kind of weapons (even with bow), but it gives -10% on P. Attack when u using a bow.

This -10% was made some time ago to balance this class a bit.

That -10% was cuz GM on Dragon serrver was butthurt, nothing more.
In the end this will stay like this cuz many cryers who got no idea what is pvp flood GM´s pm box, i dont know why i even reply on this topic.
Its obvious this its a bullsh1t nerf, this on final secret and the one on duelist spirit, but wtv there are only 4 he/glad on server, this server was completly unbalanced cuz of this 4  ;D

MegaZord

Quote from: Zaled on November 23, 2011, 02:28:54 PM
still pr/bd would kill easy he/glad, with simlar eq ofc.
Let's cut tanks a bit, escpecially mage/tank coz it's sick when majesty and delfect arrow gives same effect with robe and heavy.
and don't forget final secret is only once per 2 min 30 , so let's nerf everything in this game.

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Ye cut bp/tanks and there will be no ppl playing bishops coz rest subs for pp,sorc etc will die on max 2 hits from archers and daggers. Only good bp sub before GF(when now servitor barrier have long reuse) was bp/wk coz on full buff u had perma pet cele. Also bp/necro can stay longer but ppl playing bp/necro are mostly dd not true healers. I am just saying that nerf of final secret for he/glad will be not such big nerf as u think coz still this class even w/o final secret hit harder then all others archers class.
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zenice

Quote from: MegaZord on November 23, 2011, 04:00:46 PM
I am just saying that nerf of final secret for he/glad will be not such big nerf as u think coz still this class even w/o final secret hit harder then all others archers class.

no it dont... wtf u have your pr/bd friend char, check one and check other... its that so hard? stop saying BS...