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Started by Eqalibur, November 17, 2015, 12:50:06 PM

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Quote from: Peorexo on November 18, 2015, 11:58:17 PM
With proper archer setup you can break this wall, I was playing a lot of archer and kamalol on beta as well, and there was not a single tank i couldnt shred. Remember than on beta there were no shield/d arrow nerfs.

Its not like i dont know that HB chronicle nerfed archers a lot, it is just with substack you have way more options to play your character remember that

Stop talking about beta.
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Quote from: qash on November 19, 2015, 12:10:50 AM
Stop talking about beta.
Why? It's not so early game on this server already, epics are here, enchanted bows as well... plus on beta nerfs on tank skills weren't yet applied  ;)
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Quote from: nitr0gen on November 18, 2015, 11:52:45 PM
Ur sh/sk with dc robe against dB+10 +4lvl at qa and baium +Real target should be on Max 1,5 crit. I did test many archers combos with +16 bow and u managed to heal it up with cp pots :) I was tryharding i died milion times and i confirm that there is no point to play archers here. we both know that mages rocks hellbound chronicle thats all.
endgame archers > endgame mages eot.    its not interlude, stop looking at damage its hellbound not interlude, debuffs range speed atk speed :)  especialy with nerfed cancel/steal
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Quote from: mruwqa on November 19, 2015, 04:08:55 PM
endgame archers > endgame mages eot.    its not interlude, stop looking at damage its hellbound not interlude, debuffs range speed atk speed :)  especialy with nerfed cancel/steal

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And what's the deal with the glad/archer combos isn't that like wl/archer but worse? Or do u switch to duals and face melt when they get close? Simply.. How do you work this character? 

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Quote from: nmveteran on November 20, 2015, 11:54:12 AM
And what's the deal with the glad/archer combos isn't that like wl/archer but worse? Or do u switch to duals and face melt when they get close? Simply.. How do you work this character?

Yes... when someone comes close, you switch dyes, armor, weapons, tattoos, change certs and your complete pvp style :)

Joke aside, like WL doesn't do a train with enemy clan when they come close, and Mage/Tank doesn't draw a Sword and put on Heavy Armor... those combos are basically about improving your main class, stacking buffs and skills active and passive.

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Quote from: nmveteran on November 20, 2015, 11:54:12 AM
And what's the deal with the glad/archer combos isn't that like wl/archer but worse? Or do u switch to duals and face melt when they get close? Simply.. How do you work this character?

Ask around for a player called Zedubosque. Was archer/glad. Unstoppable. you could never catch him, awesome damage, properly geared ofc. Imo best archer I saw play. He was in Carebears, I think most people from Infinite Nightmare could vouch for him

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Quote from: Jameson on November 20, 2015, 12:33:13 PM
Yes... when someone comes close, you switch dyes, armor, weapons, tattoos, change certs and your complete pvp style :)

Joke aside, like WL doesn't do a train with enemy clan when they come close, and Mage/Tank doesn't draw a Sword and put on Heavy Armor... those combos are basically about improving your main class, stacking buffs and skills active and passive.

yeah captain obvious but that's why i asked the question in the first place coz glad has only 1 skill that wl doesn't have (expect for the skills for duals) and that is the second lvl of war cry on the other side wl has rev,br,tf + more passive hp + lvl 1 of war cry

Quote from: Worrya on November 20, 2015, 01:01:52 PM
Ask around for a player called Zedubosque. Was archer/glad. Unstoppable. you could never catch him, awesome damage, properly geared ofc. Imo best archer I saw play. He was in Carebears, I think most people from Infinite Nightmare could vouch for him

from what i understand the glad/archer is all about maxing the shit out of that p atack while also adding some defensive punch with those heavy passives .... well how about archer/wc then? that should be even more op coz u have the soul cry for patak and heavy/light passives also gives atk speed + cov

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Quote from: nmveteran on November 20, 2015, 03:13:04 PM
yeah captain obvious but that's why i asked the question in the first place coz glad has only 1 skill that wl doesn't have (expect for the skills for duals) and that is the second lvl of war cry on the other side wl has rev,br,tf + more passive hp + lvl 1 of war cry

And Duelist Spirit, increases general skill PvP damage. Although I don't play archer and no idea if they use skills in PvP or just auto attack.

I doubt that battle roar makes any difference in a party PvP with bishops. For revival, you need to be under 10% which is also quite hard considering how hard mages hit, it's not that you lose your HP in 1% pieces in PvP like on mobs.

So it's basically warcry2, duelist spirit vs. warcry1 and focusattack. Plus the possible skill enchants for those.

And maybe sonic barrier and sonic move, with weapon switch to dual and back to bow in macro. And riposte stance. But not sure if those are good additions for archer.

Worrya

Quote from: nmveteran on November 20, 2015, 03:13:04 PM
from what i understand the glad/archer is all about maxing the shit out of that p atack while also adding some defensive punch with those heavy passives .... well how about archer/wc then? that should be even more op coz u have the soul cry for patak and heavy/light passives also gives atk speed + cov

I had pr/wc on Shadow here on DN. And the first time i took it for a ride I killed a whole enemy party alone. Was awesome character at the time before mega nerfs. Some guy had a pr/destro, 7k arrows before nerf. When mutants arrive the game was mega awesome :D

Jameson

Quote from: nmveteran on November 20, 2015, 03:13:04 PM
how about archer/wc then?

Also obvious: no certs, level difference penalties, no 81+ spellbooks, MUCH worse skill enchant succes rates

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Quote from: Jameson on November 20, 2015, 03:27:07 PM
And Duelist Spirit, increases general skill PvP damage. Although I don't play archer and no idea if they use skills in PvP or just auto attack.

I doubt that battle roar makes any difference in a party PvP with bishops. For revival, you need to be under 10% which is also quite hard considering how hard mages hit, it's not that you lose your HP in 1% pieces in PvP like on mobs.

So it's basically warcry2, duelist spirit vs. warcry1 and focusattack. Plus the possible skill enchants for those.

And maybe sonic barrier and sonic move, with weapon switch to dual and back to bow in macro. And riposte stance. But not sure if those are good additions for archer.

Ye with the revival its kinda true, br is nice to have as a reserve and also thrill fight should be usefull in full on fights. Duelist spirit might be ok but not sure if it works with other weapons than duals. Focus attack is a polearm only skill aswell i think. And the same with the sonic skills i'm not sure how it works when u switch to duals use em and then switch to another weapon but i think you lose them as soon as you unequip duals

Quote from: Worrya on November 20, 2015, 03:28:26 PM
I had pr/wc on Shadow here on DN. And the first time i took it for a ride I killed a whole enemy party alone. Was awesome character at the time before mega nerfs. Some guy had a pr/destro, 7k arrows before nerf. When mutants arrive the game was mega awesome :D

Well a lot of classes were op as freak when mutants came in ... i think ima end up trying this combo

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