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[mruwqa]

gfinal  -30% mdef/pdef and it would be fine, about deathmark yes its has long cd and doesnt land as good as on later chronicles but it would be fine with gfinal real target

btw, Hobbit rampage https://www.twitch.tv/mruwqascary/v/86388122  1h 10min

[Peorexo]

gfinal  -30% mdef/pdef and it would be fine, about deathmark yes its has long cd and doesnt land as good as on later chronicles but it would be fine with gfinal real target

btw, Hobbit rampage https://www.twitch.tv/mruwqascary/v/86388122  1h 10min

yea and if any mage pt gonna make trick/slh they gonna be so useless for 99% of time and when they make finally skills +30 then wow, (already including the death mark lands like shit) you have -30% mdef for 1-3seconds (random real target duration sometimes is full crap) and have one pocket useless char without anything except prahnah for ur pt, its already better to take necro he is less useless.

And Real Target for pdef (if it takes -30%) is pretty powerfull tool for not braindamage archer parties once they hit late game, even though they ARE FINE AS THEY WERE (sorry 700 atk speed bajak archers, ur not gonna do anything that way), this change boost them a lot.

[mruwqa]

yea and if any mage pt gonna make trick/slh they gonna be so useless for 99% of time and when they make finally skills +30 then wow, (already including the death mark lands like shit) you have -30% mdef for 1-3seconds (random real target duration sometimes is full crap) and have one pocket useless char without anything except prahnah for ur pt, its already better to take necro he is less useless.

And Real Target for pdef (if it takes -30%) is pretty powerfull tool for not braindamage archer parties once they hit late game, even though they ARE FINE AS THEY WERE (sorry 700 atk speed bajak archers, ur not gonna do anything that way), this change boost them a lot.

not sure what u said, that -30% mdef for 1-3seconds is useless but for fighters it would be too strong?   trickster is archer why would u pick archer for mage party but it would be nice to have it if u wanted it, also     steal, lshock, 100% dtarget every 1s from 600range hello.

and yes archers are fine, but people are bad so u gotta boost it since its server for casual players not top L2 cps    didnt u learn it already

[Peorexo]

not sure what u said, that -30% mdef for 1-3seconds is useless but for fighters it would be too strong?   trickster is archer why would u pick archer for mage party but it would be nice to have it if u wanted it, also     steal, lshock, 100% dtarget every 1s from 600range hello.

and yes archers are fine, but people are bad so u gotta boost it since its server for casual players not top L2 cps    didnt u learn it already

Well i wanted to point in to the post earlier that someone thinking real target -mdef gonna boost mages in any kind, no idea why i pointed on your post tho. Difference why for fighters its good, cuz tricksters are naturally archers, and ppl trying to use them in mages gonna get rekt realising SLH is not like on H5

[mruwqa]

Well i wanted to point in to the post earlier that someone thinking real target -mdef gonna boost mages in any kind, no idea why i pointed on your post tho. Difference why for fighters its good, cuz tricksters are naturally archers, and ppl trying to use them in mages gonna get rekt realising SLH is not like on H5

slh>zerk  eot 

[Vexim]

So Real Target is GF or H5 like right now? cuz i got a little confused

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Anyway, if it is -30% pdef/mdef at +30, im sure we will see cry topics about mages dealing 20k+ dmg with slug-crit when death mark + real target is on^^, not saying its OP or slh/trick is viable choice in HB mages pt, but such topics will appear just bcs it is DN - lets be honest, some players are so stuck in the past (c4-interlude) that they have no idea how things are working on higher chronicles. It happend on Hellraiser before and will, most likely, happen again. (that cries when 150 nuker crits someone with 0 ressits with slug, epic)
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IMHO skill changes should be reduced to required minimum ( it is stacksub so some skills should be obviously changed) but please dont fall into paranoia and change every possible thing ( even if it is very small change), it will create only more chaos.
Btw, if some skill changes are somehow "forced" by players that know shit about the game, it is so freaking wrong :/

[Peorexo]

So Real Target is GF or H5 like right now? cuz i got a little confused

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Anyway, if it is -30% pdef/mdef at +30, im sure we will see cry topics about mages dealing 20k+ dmg with slug-crit when death mark + real target is on^^, not saying its OP or slh/trick is viable choice in HB mages pt, but such topics will appear just bcs it is DN - lets be honest, some players are so stuck in the past (c4-interlude) that they have no idea how things are working on higher chronicles. It happend on Hellraiser before and will, most likely, happen again. (that cries when 150 nuker crits someone with 0 ressits with slug, epic)
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IMHO skill changes should be reduced to required minimum ( it is stacksub so some skills should be obviously changed) but please dont fall into paranoia and change every possible thing ( even if it is very small change), it will create only more chaos.
Btw, if some skill changes are somehow "forced" by players that know shit about the game, it is so freaking wrong :/

IMHO real target seems like reasonable change, why give archers something for free? like pure nerfs into mages, give them something to work for to get more damage. The -mdef route sounds crazy but im getting the feeling that any party trying to use it will fail miserably, its still beta time to log, test, and cry later

[=^TrackZero^=]

This seem to be a good mature creative topic, thats really good ans we are thankful for that.
However, keep in mind that a lot of things are suggested but only what announced is changed. So everything what is changed and active is in announced on this forum.
In the following days we will post all the changes ever made.

[Carlosytsejam]

Cancel land rating should be decreased
This is the de-buff with more chance of success

[Peorexo]

Cancel land rating should be decreased
This is the de-buff with more chance of success

Cancel is not a debuff-type, its buff-disarming attack.

[Alannah]

cancel was totally reworked cause official formula was crap. many ppl reported its not working how it should

[Jardiro]

some guy was canceling me every 4 seconds or so wtf