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[Clonage]

Waiting for official changelog to see if it was implemented on purpose , but focus death and power are not working correctly. As soon as i get an answer that it was done on purpose and it will stay as it is right now i  will make my mind if there is a chance for me to give HR a second try.

I doubt changes were made about those skills.
I was killing some mages(all types) with 1/2 Stabs. I was playing TH/WL tho.

[Neliel]

I doubt changes were made about those skills.
I was killing some mages(all types) with 1/2 Stabs. I was playing TH/WL tho.

And i am 100% sure changes were made , even few days ago few skills were changed, and i still cant find an official changelog, it is all what i want. 2 different days 2 different numbers on same conditions.

[Jardiro]

Real target +30 = ~~27% -pdef + resist crossbows -40%, resist bows -24% (few days ago it was 23%)
Stun shot +30 = ~~27% -pdef
Temper = 23% -pdef
Block shield = -shield ~~about -150pdef if lands 10% -pdef
Lets say archers are fine already and can easily be competetive with mages, furthermore there will be period of total domination when hellbound will open, archers get 150 atr against dc robes and just wipe everything on their way. Counter dash - Melee wont catch them since bishops wont keep up with to heal DDs coz first target  getting close to proper party is dead in no time (party ud for party ud, even if zerk stun someone after party ud goes off, they can kill him and keep kiting.)

At mass pvps mages and archers were even i guess but nuker can oneshot some random guy who played first time on hellbound chronicle for 20k when archers need more teamplay.

I think we wont see first scenario to happen often coz ppl are not companionate + are not using half of skills or dont know about them.

-mid-late game archers are "pretty" strong right now
-nukers are strong right now,
-melee seems strong against notskilled players
(archers vs melee should be ez archers win, archers vs nukers in favor of archers i would say)

Daggers ;3 - nerfed focus power/focus death, situation where u cant catch anyone without wr/ea/gw + dash/bb,
You need to get on some1s back to get bonus dmg (focus death) while u wanna try fight against semitanks with fortitude(almost 0%stun landrate) you should get benefit of it when finally it lands for 1-3 seconds, also u need to me in middle of fight u are in range of every elder,nuker u can get easily killed, debuffed,mana burned.

ps nukers were always op in end game
ps2 make debuffs h5 like
ps3 fix focus death coz testing this drives me crazy
ps4

I doubt changes were made about those skills.
I was killing some mages(all types) with 1/2 Stabs. I was playing TH/WL tho.

is this freaking joke?

or maybe some god may enlighten me with formula of focus death coz on every other server ive played (nonstack) focus death's 90% is freaking 90%.

[Clonage]

I meant they werent changed on Beta... Not overall.

[Jardiro]

I meant they werent changed on Beta... Not overall.

Sry i got mad coz after 3 tests few minutes ago we had 3 diffrent results

[Peorexo]

Sry i got mad coz after 3 tests few minutes ago we had 3 diffrent results

its half for blows, if u hit 1k normals its 1.45k with f.death and should be 2.9k on crit.

[Jardiro]

its half for blows, if u hit 1k normals its 1.45k with f.death and should be 2.9k on crit.

yeah, it should be...

[Easley]

yeah, it should be...

using it on a target with shield? If it's a tank with 360 degree shield def it can change the results too, best way to test it is without shield at all

[Neliel]

Real target +30 = ~~27% -pdef + resist crossbows -40%, resist bows -24% (few days ago it was 23%)
Stun shot +30 = ~~27% -pdef
Temper = 23% -pdef
Block shield = -shield ~~about -150pdef if lands 10% -pdef
Lets say archers are fine already and can easily be competetive with mages, furthermore there will be period of total domination when hellbound will open, archers get 150 atr against dc robes and just wipe everything on their way. Counter dash - Melee wont catch them since bishops wont keep up with to heal DDs coz first target  getting close to proper party is dead in no time (party ud for party ud, even if zerk stun someone after party ud goes off, they can kill him and keep kiting.)

At mass pvps mages and archers were even i guess but nuker can oneshot some random guy who played first time on hellbound chronicle for 20k when archers need more teamplay.

I think we wont see first scenario to happen often coz ppl are not companionate + are not using half of skills or dont know about them.

-mid-late game archers are "pretty" strong right now
-nukers are strong right now,
-melee seems strong against notskilled players
(archers vs melee should be ez archers win, archers vs nukers in favor of archers i would say)

Daggers ;3 - nerfed focus power/focus death, situation where u cant catch anyone without wr/ea/gw + dash/bb,
You need to get on some1s back to get bonus dmg (focus death) while u wanna try fight against semitanks with fortitude(almost 0%stun landrate) you should get benefit of it when finally it lands for 1-3 seconds, also u need to me in middle of fight u are in range of every elder,nuker u can get easily killed, debuffed,mana burned.

ps nukers were always op in end game
ps2 make debuffs h5 like
ps3 fix focus death coz testing this drives me crazy
ps4  is this freaking joke?

or maybe some god may enlighten me with formula of focus death coz on every other server ive played (nonstack) focus death's 90% is freaking 90%.

1st Nukers are strong from the beginning to the end of L2 , Archers need a bit more time but finally in current conditions will outscale any opponent. Right now htting DAs PALs for 2,5k and still growing (2 more debuffs need to be implemented 2lazy :,( )

My friend Jardiro our sneaky plan to make 2 man army was crushed in his early stages :,( RIP in Peace dear Jester <3 What now !?

[Naiz]

Honestly I think it'll be implemented way later, similar to how it was last time on hellraiser same with the farming for the quest items for icarus on hellbound

Exactly.

[mruwqa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9LDI697Sm8
that was with 30% focus death

https://postimg.org/image/n3a6nfymz/
thats with 15% focus power

u dont want to boost daggers dmg anymore    + there are a lot of at least cp lethals

btw all meles are good not just daggers    stacked glad on some mass pvp could hit really hard with elemental aoes        also stuff like zerk/slh  or those destros/wc-ols(I hope) are good in most scenarios     but mele pt need LATEEE GAME  

ontop:  https://youtu.be/zbsQ8TPEP0o?t=13m1s   13min Neliel  1v9ing Exicidium pt   on his dagger with broken focus death

[Gardax]

Hi there,

As far as I know previous server was Gracia Final files downgraded to Hellbound. Now that downgraded files are updating with some GF features like skill enchant. My question is: Why don't we test clean GF files, in my opinion it is the best balanced chronicle.  Just delete for some time Vesper stuff.

What do you think?