How you can play archers vs any mage/tank if you hit shield and did 900 dmg?
Please explain, i donk know how.
Is not a flame topic, i'm new and i don'k know how play archers here with this substack system. I need a good substack for saggi, silver ranger and phantom ranger that help me to make dmg. If you know something just answer, thx a lot. ;)
Quote from: Zefy on October 08, 2016, 08:31:20 AM
How you can play archers vs any mage/tank if you hit shield and did 900 dmg?
Please explain, i donk know how.
Is not a flame topic, i'm new and i don'k know how play archers here with this substack system. I need a good substack for saggi, silver ranger and phantom ranger that help me to make dmg. If you know something just answer, thx a lot. ;)
By having a trickster in your party and using the skill "Real target" (Decreases Bow Resistance by 24% and Crossbow Resistance by 40% and also -30% p.def when max enchanted)
Ye i know it, i need some tips about the substack, i good combination for any archers for solo pvp and party pvp. Thx a lot
Quote from: Zefy on October 08, 2016, 08:45:47 AM
Ye i know it, i need some tips about the substack, i good combination for any archers for solo pvp and party pvp. Thx a lot
Well hard to say what you need when we don't know how your party gonna be like :P My personal favourite is Saggi/Dreadnought tbh just coz of the extra attack speed, self heals, good pvp and pve skills and the ability to farm with pole :) It's a very "selfish" char though, since you need full supports for it! Try them all on the Beta that is open right now and find your favourite one :)
Nice that instead of saying "You know nothing, everything is working wrong" you are asking questions :>
I hope that you know : Archers in HB =/= Archers in IL
No more F1 > F1 > next target > F1 > F1 > next target. RIP SS2 gameplay ;*
As Admiral said, you need to work with debuffs Real target/Violent Temper/Hex/Block shield.
HE/WL - not for solo (lack of debuffs) but great DD
HE/WK - not for solo (lack of debuffs) but cat for party + TP, not sure about cubic anchor landing rate
PR/PS - cubics OP + TP
TRICK/BERK - very good DD + great debuffs
TRICK/SLH - good dd + great debuffs
Quote from: Morel on October 08, 2016, 11:38:37 AM
Nice that instead of saying "You know nothing, everything is working wrong" you are asking questions :>
I hope that you know : Archers in HB =/= Archers in IL
No more F1 > F1 > next target > F1 > F1 > next target. RIP SS2 gameplay ;*
As Admiral said, you need to work with debuffs Real target/Violent Temper/Hex/Block shield.
HE/WL - not for solo (lack of debuffs) but great DD
HE/WK - not for solo (lack of debuffs) but cat for party + TP, not sure about cubic anchor landing rate
PR/PS - cubics OP + TP
TRICK/BERK - very good DD + great debuffs
TRICK/SLH - good dd + great debuffs
Thank you for helping new players, thanks to easly as well. Topics like this should motivate others to do same, because they teach less skilled players how to become better enemy which eventually leads to better and longer pvps.
Once again +1
Quote from: Morel on October 08, 2016, 11:38:37 AM
HE/WL - not for solo (lack of debuffs) but great DD
stuns bro :)
Good party setup + debuffs, thats what you need.
Quote from: Zefy on October 08, 2016, 08:31:20 AM
How you can play archers vs any mage/tank if you hit shield and did 900 dmg?
Please explain, i donk know how.
Is not a flame topic, i'm new and i don'k know how play archers here with this substack system. I need a good substack for saggi, silver ranger and phantom ranger that help me to make dmg. If you know something just answer, thx a lot. ;)
How to become a real nigga in 4 simple steps:
1. Assist :D (target non tank classes , so u will make them feel ur big arrow )
2. Debuffs (Real Targeto 24/40 -30 pdef , ur dmg will be multiplied by 2 (NO JOKE) , hex/v temper -23 pdef / block shield (OP SKILLS PLS REMOVE) , u wont have crit wound in archer pt but u can still take advantage from schock blast -30 pdef (WL skill :) , enchant it and have fun O.o )
3. Keep ur distance as long as u can (nuke rage 900 , after 78 u have 950 with bow (Archery) , get rogue ability long shot for additional 100 , maybe there is smth more but i think in hb it ends on archers will +50) So u have 200 range advantage.
4. Steal few bikes from any mage on server.
Make trick/slh -> steal buffs from ur box characters -> enjoy raping skills. ( Fock every retard who is doing it on beta :* )
3* Bubble also increases ur range but u have to be in it , very very very very situational
Thx you all for your tips, i tried WL-HW, there is a difference if i start WL and not HW? I like dynasty heavy weapon master.
Quote from: Zefy on October 08, 2016, 12:57:49 PM
Thx you all for your tips, i tried WL-HW, there is a difference if i start WL and not HW? I like dynasty heavy weapon master.
You should also read this article:
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,292360.0.html
Quote from: Morel on October 08, 2016, 11:38:37 AM
Nice that instead of saying "You know nothing, everything is working wrong" you are asking questions :>
I hope that you know : Archers in HB =/= Archers in IL
No more F1 > F1 > next target > F1 > F1 > next target. RIP SS2 gameplay ;*
As Admiral said, you need to work with debuffs Real target/Violent Temper/Hex/Block shield.
HE/WL - not for solo (lack of debuffs) but great DD
HE/WK - not for solo (lack of debuffs) but cat for party + TP, not sure about cubic anchor landing rate
PR/PS - cubics OP + TP
TRICK/BERK - very good DD + great debuffs
TRICK/SLH - good dd + great debuffs
Dont even think about doing any archer/summoner. They have no real benifit from the sub besides TP. Phantom cubic is cool but it acts random, applies 1 of its 3 debuffs randomly. SE/PS is much better or PR/SK that actually gains crit dmg from pain of shilen.
If you're going to play with 2 more friend and each one is going to box a buffer i would say your best options are:
-HE/WL <- Probably the most "balanced" between PvE and PvP.
or
-HE/Glad <- PvP Oriented.
-SWS/SR <- This is more like a support class(Counter rapid shot).
-Trick/Zerker <- Enabler
Buffers:
BP/WK
WC/OL
BD/SE
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on October 08, 2016, 01:00:36 PM
You should also read this article:
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,292360.0.html
You can switch between them, the option to switch is very precious in case you want to choose your another class for being Hero on it means you can choose between your two classes on which you want to be a Hero just meet Astral to switch.I have 2 question.
I can be hero with 2 class or only 1?
Better enchant skills with element or power?
Thx you.
I can be hero with 2 class or only 1?
1class
Better enchant skills with element or power?
You can test it yourself, nukers need elements, fighters in late late game wont benefit much from elements but still
Quote from: Jardiro on October 08, 2016, 04:54:22 PM
I can be hero with 2 class or only 1?
1class
Better enchant skills with element or power?
You can test it yourself, nukers need elements, fighters in late late game wont benefit much from elements but still
That's not correct lol, fighters need elemental attack on skills.
If you're using Damage skills you will need to enchant the skill with elemental power, otherwise the skills will not receive the bonus dmg from the element on weapon.
Quote from: Clonage on October 08, 2016, 10:43:49 PM
That's not correct lol, fighters need elemental attack on skills.
If you're using Damage skills you will need to enchant the skill with elemental power, otherwise the skills will not receive the bonus dmg from the element on weapon.
If we want to be precise, BOTH enchant routes are effective, it all depends on YOU and on YOUR enemies, power skill will obviously scale better againts FULLY resisted enemies, but if they are not fully protected againts element of yours, then using elemental route will increase your damage a lot.
Quote from: Clonage on October 08, 2016, 10:43:49 PM
That's not correct lol, fighters need elemental attack on skills.
If you're using Damage skills you will need to enchant the skill with elemental power, otherwise the skills will not receive the bonus dmg from the element on weapon.
lul
Quote from: Zefy on October 08, 2016, 08:31:20 AM
How you can play archers vs any mage/tank if you hit shield and did 900 dmg?
Please explain, i donk know how.
Is not a flame topic, i'm new and i don'k know how play archers here with this substack system. I need a good substack for saggi, silver ranger and phantom ranger that help me to make dmg. If you know something just answer, thx a lot. ;)
Made a archer/tank buy a FS anti mágic.. Farm alot and take good set / bow and sftu ;D ;D
Quote from: felix23 on October 09, 2016, 01:12:44 AM
Made a archer/tank buy a FS anti mágic.. Farm alot and take good set / bow and sftu ;D ;D
easier to get 1 or 2 friends and play with them :)
Any tips for silver and phantom ranger? (substack etc...)
silver/tk pretty cool
sr/tk, sr/sws, pr/sk, pr/bd, pr/ps (just bcs i like it).
Sub depends mostly on party setup.
sr/pw pr/aw sick stuff when attacking from back :)
u can sub with anything and have fun with it, stop making chars to be op, u are forgeting why are u playin a game
Could someone write pro's and con"s about trickster/slhd and trickster/brzk? Some general strategies, tips and important things about this stacksub.
Cheers
Quote from: BrainDamage on October 30, 2016, 09:52:12 PM
Could someone write pro's and con"s about trickster/slhd and trickster/brzk? Some general strategies, tips and important things about this stacksub.
Cheers
depends what u want to do, read skills of those classes and use brain if u cant feel it u wont play it good
Theory is not the same as real thing, as we all know.
And i wanted to hear from dnet players who played it on previous Hellraiser: do traps work, whats better combo, is their dark defence real thing etc...
Sry no tips after changelog announcement, especially when it is clear that it will be archeros servidor ;*
there is no such thing as better combo, those are totaly different chars go read skill class, there is open beta for such things to TEST stuff
Ehh, and i thought i would get decent answers. I should've know better. Dn community best community.
Cheers
Quote from: BrainDamage on October 31, 2016, 08:26:34 PM
Ehh, and i thought i would get decent answers. I should've know better. Dn community best community.
Cheers
tl;dr ? trick/zerk is way more complex char to use correctly, it has higher dps but its more party oriented i'd say to use it full potential.
trick/slh is easier to be succesfull with (imo), and is way better 1v1 duelist.
Quote from: Peorexo on October 31, 2016, 08:36:23 PM
tl;dr ? trick/zerk is way more complex char to use correctly, it has higher dps but its more party oriented i'd say to use it full potential.
trick/slh is easier to be succesfull with (imo), and is way better 1v1 duelist.
would argue.
Quote from: mruwqa on November 02, 2016, 10:21:20 AM
would argue.
Yeah, technically speaking u can do relatively well on both of them with little to zero knowledge, using little of their full potential, and i was talking on fighter-style, obv if u compare to mage slh then it takes way more to be usefull with that :P
Quote from: Peorexo on November 02, 2016, 11:03:17 AM
Yeah, technically speaking u can do relatively well on both of them with little to zero knowledge, using little of their full potential, and i was talking on fighter-style, obv if u compare to mage slh then it takes way more to be usefull with that :P
haha I wanna see little to zero knowledge kamaels on live :)))
ontop: -9con +9str u gonna win everything :D
Quote from: mruwqa on November 02, 2016, 12:49:11 PM
haha I wanna see little to zero knowledge kamaels on live :)))
ontop: -9con +9str u gonna win everything :D
F1 next target F2 rush impact GG WP
Quote from: Vexim on November 02, 2016, 01:37:08 PM
F1 next target F2 rush impact GG WP
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Quote from: Morel on November 02, 2016, 05:04:55 PM
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atleast he got skill on f4
Quote from: Morel on November 02, 2016, 05:04:55 PM
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sanex approves
Quote from: Jardiro on November 02, 2016, 05:12:20 PM
atleast he got skill on f4
pfff f4 is overrated
prominence on f6 = easy win