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Title: Feedback
Post by: Clonage on January 26, 2023, 04:05:24 PM
Not really interested in starting myself, might log here and there to help a few friends.
Still giving my feedback since DN was a project where i have "wasted" lots of my time.

Some of the changes that would make me CONSIDER even thinking about making my own character:
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For epics you want to add to the timer so it rotates time zones, something like:
Queen Ant 26h + 2h
Core 38h + 2h
Orfen 38h + 2h
Zaken 50h + 2h
Baium 126h + 2h
Antharas 198h + 2h
Valakas 270h + 2h
Frintezza 50h + 2h

It's just an example but it's better than retail values. The +2hr are total random(no idea if the mechanic is +- hrs, doesn't change much, the idea is still the same). No one wants to camp baium for 8hrs and most ppl would agree that its not fair for epics to be stuck on 1 time zone.
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Other stuff and questions:
Something may be wrong with the dynamic rates, where did level 85 come from? Max level in Interlude is 80. So it becomes 30x -> 6x?
Improved jewels like orfen and core?
Are epic bosses retail like in terms of stats and levels?
HB fully accessible at server launch? What dynasty sets are available? Level 2 shoulders and class based?
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: Plahvix on January 26, 2023, 04:14:31 PM
This.
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: SpoilerAngel on January 26, 2023, 05:22:20 PM
Nobody asked

Quote from: Clonage on January 26, 2023, 04:05:24 PMNot really interested in starting myself, might log here and there to help a few friends.
Still giving my feedback since DN was a project where i have "wasted" lots of my time.

Some of the changes that would make me CONSIDER even thinking about making my own character:
  • Stop rushing servers out. There's barely anytime for engagement to be created between the community. There has been 0 skill changes from prev server. The best thing you can do is show interest that you want to deliver a good server and take your time doing it. Substack needs more attention than a retail like server. I haven't seen Frintezza NOT bugged in years on DN. Respect our time
  • I would prefer a more oldschool approach to the game. No combo disco, force cooperation. Even tho i think the bard(bd/sws) class design is horrible, it's too easy to be fully buffed with combo disco. Substack already makes support availability higher but might make it less optimal in situations like a mage party in need of a sws but there's only SR/sws available. Combo buffs are fine.
  • Make dwarfs substack w/e class they want. Like Spoiler/SWS
  • Keep spellbook requirement to learning skills. Past servers removed the SB requirement. Try to keep the market as untouched as possible
  • I would take a look at Lifestone 76 drop tables, it's worse than Mid LS 76. It's probably a chronicle thing but it makes 0 sense.
  • If there's enough interest for HB chronicle there's an open source extender for GF/GE, maybe it's worth to look into for a downgrade
  • Fix weapon mastery, there was a "bug" "last" server because gm's thought they pushed a certain change for the first beta,  but they didn't, so they had to "rebalance" the whole thing. Hint: it was between p atk and auto attack pvp dmg.
  • Highly enforce the +1 box rule. The best server i ever played is 1 client per player(and 1x  ;) ). It made everything have it's own value, clan halls(specially the buffer), friends list, support players, etc.
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For epics you want to add to the timer so it rotates time zones, something like:
Queen Ant 26h + 2h
Core 38h + 2h
Orfen 38h + 2h
Zaken 50h + 2h
Baium 126h + 2h
Antharas 198h + 2h
Valakas 270h + 2h
Frintezza 50h + 2h

It's just an example but it's better than retail values. The +2hr are total random(no idea if the mechanic is +- hrs, doesn't change much, the idea is still the same). No one wants to camp baium for 8hrs and most ppl would agree that its not fair for epics to be stuck on 1 time zone.
-----
Other stuff and questions:
Something may be wrong with the dynamic rates, where did level 85 come from? Max level in Interlude is 80. So it becomes 30x -> 6x?
Improved jewels like orfen and core?
Are epic bosses retail like in terms of stats and levels?
HB fully accessible at server launch? What dynasty sets are available? Level 2 shoulders and class based?
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: thusard on January 26, 2023, 05:24:29 PM
Quote from: Clonage on January 26, 2023, 04:05:24 PMNot really interested in starting myself, might log here and there to help a few friends.
Still giving my feedback since DN was a project where i have "wasted" lots of my time.

Some of the changes that would make me CONSIDER even thinking about making my own character:
  • Stop rushing servers out. There's barely anytime for engagement to be created between the community. There has been 0 skill changes from prev server. The best thing you can do is show interest that you want to deliver a good server and take your time doing it. Substack needs more attention than a retail like server. I haven't seen Frintezza NOT bugged in years on DN. Respect our time
  • I would prefer a more oldschool approach to the game. No combo disco, force cooperation. Even tho i think the bard(bd/sws) class design is horrible, it's too easy to be fully buffed with combo disco. Substack already makes support availability higher but might make it less optimal in situations like a mage party in need of a sws but there's only SR/sws available. Combo buffs are fine.
  • Make dwarfs substack w/e class they want. Like Spoiler/SWS
  • Keep spellbook requirement to learning skills. Past servers removed the SB requirement. Try to keep the market as untouched as possible
  • I would take a look at Lifestone 76 drop tables, it's worse than Mid LS 76. It's probably a chronicle thing but it makes 0 sense.
  • If there's enough interest for HB chronicle there's an open source extender for GF/GE, maybe it's worth to look into for a downgrade
  • Fix weapon mastery, there was a "bug" "last" server because gm's thought they pushed a certain change for the first beta,  but they didn't, so they had to "rebalance" the whole thing. Hint: it was between p atk and auto attack pvp dmg.
  • Highly enforce the +1 box rule. The best server i ever played is 1 client per player(and 1x  ;) ). It made everything have it's own value, clan halls(specially the buffer), friends list, support players, etc.
-----
For epics you want to add to the timer so it rotates time zones, something like:
Queen Ant 26h + 2h
Core 38h + 2h
Orfen 38h + 2h
Zaken 50h + 2h
Baium 126h + 2h
Antharas 198h + 2h
Valakas 270h + 2h
Frintezza 50h + 2h

It's just an example but it's better than retail values. The +2hr are total random(no idea if the mechanic is +- hrs, doesn't change much, the idea is still the same). No one wants to camp baium for 8hrs and most ppl would agree that its not fair for epics to be stuck on 1 time zone.
-----
Other stuff and questions:
Something may be wrong with the dynamic rates, where did level 85 come from? Max level in Interlude is 80. So it becomes 30x -> 6x?
Improved jewels like orfen and core?
Are epic bosses retail like in terms of stats and levels?
HB fully accessible at server launch? What dynasty sets are available? Level 2 shoulders and class based?
lets make shots not auto,need to be like c1, F1 attack / F2 shots
and spam F1 and F2
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: Taro on January 26, 2023, 05:37:26 PM
Quote from: Clonage on January 26, 2023, 04:05:24 PM
  • I would take a look at Lifestone 76 drop tables, it's worse than Mid LS 76. It's probably a chronicle thing but it makes 0 sense.
Yes the lifestone drop are horrible as i remember from previous servers + NM & MAJ recipes/fulldrops were not correct as well. These are the things i remember. Probably a lot more going wrong in the droplist.
My suggestion would be to get a new and better droplist.
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: Clonage on January 26, 2023, 07:45:07 PM
Quote from: SpoilerAngel on January 26, 2023, 05:22:20 PMNobody asked
Haji if you dont stop trolling i swear to god i will buy all ikea pandas in the world and set them on fire.

Quote from: thusard on January 26, 2023, 05:24:29 PMlets make shots not auto,need to be like c1, F1 attack / F2 shots
and spam F1 and F2
Is this a bad attempt at sarcasm?
If you're mocking the oldschool part of my feedback then you're stuck in time. Most competitive servers modernize a bunch of classes(where these mechanics were copied for DN latest servers), we're talking about combo disco, multiple combo buffs that don't even exist in retail, changing buff mechanics all together like prophecies being self buffs etc.
I prefer HB and GF over trash interlude. But newgen modernization of classes is overkill for substack.
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: CJ2000 on January 26, 2023, 09:06:41 PM
ADDING THIS:

- restrict to 1+1 box maximum!!! in this way removing passive pole mastery from destro and giving resist to 2h swords for RB wouldn't be mandatory

- combo disco is not an issue if there is restricted boxes, also having 1 bard in party will be interesting in creating party combination
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: +GekKey+ on January 26, 2023, 10:51:24 PM
+1

I also a played on this 1x server and it the fun was as close as it could get to old dnet time in terms that there were parties, action and player cooperation etc... the server felt alive instead of farmers + box.
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: SpoilerAngel on January 26, 2023, 11:36:22 PM
Where is my promised draco bow +f +10?

Btw, dont allow dual box otherwise its gay but its ok.
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: Clonage on January 28, 2023, 06:10:17 PM
GMs... I know this SpoilerAngel guy has been trolling but what he reported about the items and his characters are true lol. No idea why you deleted those posts. I was with him when it happened.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793917442618556428/1068331676603789403/Screenshot_17.png)
This is not 5M daggers, it's not even a single dagger. It was 1 dagger that got dropped and picked. But for some reason it still shows the item on the ground with a random number of stacks.


Still no answer regarding my questions ...
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: SpoilerAngel on January 28, 2023, 06:30:41 PM
(https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/4KfHZ7GYrdvU1BQPttvi5mAgPiQkJKRr6ESV1vibZOU/https/media.tenor.com/K_pqwjmutJ0AAAPo/empty-roll.mp4)

Quote from: Clonage on January 28, 2023, 06:10:17 PMGMs... I know this SpoilerAngel guy has been trolling but what he reported about the items and his characters are true lol. No idea why you deleted those posts. I was with him when it happened.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793917442618556428/1068331676603789403/Screenshot_17.png)
This is not 5M daggers, it's not even a single dagger. It was 1 dagger that got dropped and picked. But for some reason it still shows the item on the ground with a random number of stacks.

  • Level 4 tattoos missing
  • Forgotten scrolls missing to test improved buffs.
  • 2x Magnus on npc buffer, missing G shield
  • Im looking into mana burn, value is way to higher compared to last server i played. Mana storm value was identical but single target wasn't. I'll be looking into some videos to compare.
    Values on a clean EE fully buffed TM robe set, no zerk with 2k+ mdef, -5men, +6%mdef tattoo: Storm 160s, single burn 299 lol. I will try to look into videos of other servers. I'm thinking it might be a formula nerf from HB+ that was being applied on the server i played. Still, these values on current obt are ridiculous. A caster can easily get 450+ mana burned if it doesn't fully stack towards mdef.
  • Hide was not implemented previous server because it was doing crit error for whole party. It still is doing.

Still no answer regarding my questions ...
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: Clonage on January 28, 2023, 10:49:29 PM
Don't name this server Tarantula, it's misleading and disrespectful to our nostalgia... Last Tarantula was 8+ years ago.
I keep testing and keep getting disappointed. You can level up past 81 and enchant 3rd class skills... Which isn't a bad idea but there's 0 info about it. This wasn't even a feature on last server and it's not mentioned at all on any forum post regarding features/changes.

This had NOTHING to do with Tarantula. It's just another poorly managed DN Substack server.

Sigh...
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: SpoilerAngel on January 28, 2023, 11:05:47 PM
I'm surprised they did not delete your post yet mate, I tested for few hours and my chars got deleted/bugged.

Sadly, I posted pictures and feedback too.

There no Improved buffs either its big horseshit and big lies again.

They copy paste things and do nothing to fix bugs and things.

Only bla bla bla and no do do do caraloh.

I doubt they even read this shit forum that gives me diabetes.

Quote from: Clonage on January 28, 2023, 10:49:29 PMDon't name this server Tarantula, it's misleading and disrespectful to our nostalgia... Last Tarantula was 8+ years ago.
I keep testing and keep getting disappointed. You can level up past 81 and enchant 3rd class skills... Which isn't a bad idea but there's 0 info about it. This wasn't even a feature on last server and it's not mentioned at all on any forum post regarding features/changes.

This had NOTHING to do with Tarantula. It's just another poorly managed DN Substack server.

Sigh...
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: SpoilerAngel on January 29, 2023, 01:11:58 AM
Go back to your cave dog, you dont know nothing.

Quote from: HerrMayer on January 29, 2023, 01:10:04 AM...

you b1tches complain too much for this and that no wonder why track has abandon

instead of asking many questions
why dont you create a clan and try to siege a castle to see if server does not crash? do useful test for community not QQ post about unfinished feature or else not finished in client such as info like noitemname
Focus on what is needed to be tested and not creating a post with few complains like enchant skill or max level

minor things like that may be the less priority if they didnt cleaned them yet

Thats what they need you ppl to stop QQ and test server for what is needed to be tested

What a **** shame that i cant be online everyday with my notebook and im stuck in that farm with 1 or 2 weeks came to town for 1 night and i have desire to do nothing as i fell so dam frustrated

but you ppl have good pc at home and good internet and instead of doing what is needed the most you all do is complain at forum

>_>  ...
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: Clonage on January 29, 2023, 01:16:03 AM
You're trolling for sure. Changes to skills and levels is not major? How is it QQ? rofl. You're the one QQing for not having good pc and internet. It's copy paste of previous server and has changes to files that are not logged anywhere...
fyck off with your petty shit
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: HerrMayer on January 29, 2023, 01:18:33 AM
I know far more than you 2  rats

lol
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: SpoilerAngel on January 29, 2023, 01:20:44 AM
Guy came from the cave and talking nonsense.

Go ask Messi for autograpgh

Quote from: HerrMayer on January 29, 2023, 01:18:33 AMI know far more than you 2  rats

lol
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: SpoilerAngel on January 29, 2023, 01:35:09 AM
Nobody asked what you did or what's your opinion in bro.

Good for you what you did and had servers.

Go log and test this shit yourself before you even type anything here.

Quote from: HerrMayer on January 29, 2023, 01:27:47 AMsure dude  ive compiled from SVN in 2012 hellbound server and used C4 scripts and config for protocol 656 and tested it

I currently have in backup C4 with latest nextdev dll from russian forum wich im not gonna mention for you idiot

ive tested many types of servers from C1 smeli 32 bit zerg code till gracia final x64 that was shared with bugs long ago

i had servers in past but i always used as non-profit for the love of this game

I ve pushed in past the idea to move from GF to H5 and you may have forgot that

Youre just a forum QQ as ive saw over years the only post and cry for few unfinished features

For sure you have enchanted +6 stupidity all the way xD
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: HerrMayer on January 29, 2023, 02:48:28 AM
Quote from: SpoilerAngel on January 29, 2023, 01:35:09 AMNobody asked what you did or what's your opinion in bro.

Good for you what you did and had servers.

Go log and test this shit yourself before you even type anything here.



(https://i.ibb.co/HXtGGMg/Screenshot-20230128-224154-Chrome.jpg)

Says who wrote insults via private message without any reason

Good Luck crying out loud on forum
dont QQ if they came back deleting everything as you show misappreciation for the work they do
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: thusard on January 29, 2023, 07:34:49 AM
dragon network drama 2023version
this community alwasy had 2 or 3 toxic pll,we all must ignore them
by the years passes,they become more toxic.
you know why?becouse mental problems get wors when u age :)))
for all the ppl there that read this shits,just ignore the handicaps of some players that complain here and after server start they farm like nolifers and forgot that they blamed server

see you on the battlefield when server is up
@DN staff, just ignore then and keep working on this project
server setup is best of what dragon had before
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: SpoilerAngel on January 29, 2023, 10:26:34 AM
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEESHHHHHHHHHH, I bet you did not log and test a sh1t bro

Quote from: thusard on January 29, 2023, 07:34:49 AMdragon network drama 2023version
this community alwasy had 2 or 3 toxic pll,we all must ignore them
by the years passes,they become more toxic.
you know why?becouse mental problems get wors when u age :)))
for all the ppl there that read this shits,just ignore the handicaps of some players that complain here and after server start they farm like nolifers and forgot that they blamed server

see you on the battlefield when server is up
@DN staff, just ignore then and keep working on this project
server setup is best of what dragon had before
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: Clonage on January 29, 2023, 03:31:57 PM
Yes ignore the testing that we have done. Don't fix anything. Just ignore us.
If you think i don't value my time and don't have other stuff to do beside play on DN copy pasta servers well good luck then.

Fingers crossed I'm the only one that values their time over a substack lol copy pasta server!

Server will be full of non toxic cunts unlike me! Positive vibes will make DN great again UwU!!!1!!1!! Ignore the bugs reported, maybe they will go away OwO!11!! Peace and love nyaaahh;;
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: thusard on January 29, 2023, 03:45:21 PM
Quote from: Clonage on January 29, 2023, 03:31:57 PMYes ignore the testing that we have done. Don't fix anything. Just ignore us.
If you think i don't value my time and don't have other stuff to do beside play on DN copy pasta servers well good luck then.

Fingers crossed I'm the only one that values their time over a substack lol copy pasta server!

Server will be full of non toxic cunts unlike me! Positive vibes will make DN great again UwU!!!1!!1!! Ignore the bugs reported, maybe they will go away OwO!11!! Peace and love nyaaahh;;
bye bye
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: SpoilerAngel on January 29, 2023, 04:10:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l60MnDJklnM

Quote from: thusard on January 29, 2023, 03:45:21 PMbye bye
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: Picksy on January 29, 2023, 06:34:10 PM
Quote from: thusard on January 29, 2023, 07:34:49 AM@DN staff, just ignore then and keep working on this project
server setup is best of what dragon had before

Best setup dragon had aka exactly same files as last 2 servers, just no stages, higher xp rate and different epic spawns
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: thusard on January 29, 2023, 07:29:14 PM
Quote from: Picksy on January 29, 2023, 06:34:10 PMBest setup dragon had aka exactly same files as last 2 servers, just no stages, higher xp rate and different epic spawns
ye i mean this setup was best of all dn servers
and sure now is same server with diferit name :))) and less interes

Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: thusard on January 29, 2023, 07:41:34 PM
but again,what is the problem if is same server diferit name?
remember : games invented to make ppl have fun,even with 200 even with 700 players u still have fun,diference is time,the life time of a server from 30days to years.
just chill and show your age guys,if u wanna join ok and give a few advices,if u dont wanna join,dont check forum or discord
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: thusard on January 29, 2023, 08:14:25 PM
ps you must get this : there is no other private server with more than 1year life time(except reborn 1x big community)
all other servers open 1 time/year,fresh start all time time,season style
what is the problem if here is the same?look at retarded server like l2damage 2 times/year open and still 2k+ players,and now even l2dex/l2reborn/l2etina best servers still have season servers.
this is the modern playstyle of lineage/mmo games, new fresh at last one time/year.
so stop complaining after server close....
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: Clonage on January 29, 2023, 10:14:31 PM
No one here is complaining about servers closing, we're complaining about misinformation and lack of progress. Last server lasted 1 week if that much because of bugs and several delays.

If i say i'm going to open a reborn like server and ppl log on beta and they are able to dual box and skills have H5 values, how are players not supposed to get frustrated?

This is not Tarantula. It's Gaia 2 copy pasted into 3rd server without changes.
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: SpoilerAngel on January 29, 2023, 10:50:30 PM
There is no Dynasty armors/sets to test.

You announce things and nothing is implemented.

There no Epics just AQ and Orfen to test.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/793917442618556428/1069373641864794264/image.png)
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: Clonage on January 30, 2023, 12:02:09 AM
Shadai missing S80 recipes
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: Taro on January 30, 2023, 01:18:41 AM
Quote from: Clonage on January 29, 2023, 10:14:31 PMLast server lasted 1 week if that much because of bugs and several delays.
10 to 12 hours to be precise
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: Taro on January 30, 2023, 01:23:57 AM
Quote from: Clonage on January 29, 2023, 03:31:57 PMPositive vibes will make DN great again UwU!!!1!!1!! Ignore the bugs reported, maybe they will go away OwO!11!! Peace and love nyaaahh;;
Weeb
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: SpoilerAngel on January 30, 2023, 01:59:03 AM
Lets hope this time will be longer


Quote from: Tessellate on January 30, 2023, 01:18:41 AM10 to 12 hours to be precise
Title: Re: Feedback
Post by: Angerfist/Scion on March 05, 2023, 02:12:56 PM
make drop spoil patch  to client in mob window like was before