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Title: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: House on December 08, 2016, 11:49:37 PM
Hi, we play 2-4 hours a day and little more on weekends,we are from a clan called Enclave. Usually 7-11PM GMT +1 , we all speak english and use TS, known each other for a long time.

WC/ol - Active noblesse
AW/SK -Active
TH/WK - Active noblesse
EE/SWS - Active
Zerker/Trickster - Active
AW/BD - Active
BP/Wk - Casual
PW/SwS - Casual
TH/Pal - Casual
Please leave your IGN and I will pm you for communication, we prefer clans interested in pvp.

We are partially geared up.

update : sorry the subject initially said people, it was mean't to be clan.
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF PPL
Post by: Vexim on December 09, 2016, 12:04:26 AM
Re-think this party setup, it sucks.
Daggers are very mana-hungry chars and you have only 1 recharger for 6 dds, you will have 0 mp in 10 seconds during pvp.

1. Reduce number of dds to 3
2. Increase number of rechargers to 3
3. Thank me later.

Title: Re: Dagger CP LF PPL
Post by: Clonage on December 09, 2016, 06:08:10 AM
You need atleast 2 rechargers.

Fighter/summoner is trash. Sorry :(

Personally i would go for the most used competitive gracia final retail like melee cp comp.

WC
BP
EE
SWS
BD
Trick
Zerker
SLH (played as mage)
TH

With substack:
WC/OL
BP/WK
EE/ES
SWS/EE
BD/SK(Why sk? Melee control, low mana consumption, Agros are not affected by any bossjewel, pt ud, TOD, AOE TOD)
Zerker/trick(With zerker playstyle)
Trick/SLH (With trick playstyle since you can abuse antibuff shield and not get overbuffed while "stealing" buffs and still do high dps as archer)
TH/Glad
Dagger/tank or BP/Pal

Since you can get all 3 kamael classes with only 2 characters you can add another bishop/pal for 24/7 flame icon(yes, it's based on cast speed) or another dagger/tank(maybe aw/sk, high damge and has aoe cancel). Either way you would have 1min and 30s high m def(2pranahs 2 pt uds). Single target and aoe cancel. Forcing rebuff is alot better then 6dps and if they dont rebuff = ez fragz.

There are most likely better comps out there for melee and dagger CPs. This is one of my favorite "theory" comps :P

Anyway, if you dont care about organized pvp(and min maxing) just ignore my opinion and play whatever you guys think is fun!

If I gave any wrong info pls correct me.
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF PPL
Post by: GhostSlayer on December 09, 2016, 06:13:59 AM
Quote from: House on December 08, 2016, 11:49:37 PM
Hi, we play 2-4 hours a day and little more on weekends,we are from a clan called Enclave. Usually 7-11PM GMT +1 , we all speak english and use TS, known each other for a long time.

WC/ol - Active noblesse
AW/SK -Active
TH/WK - Active noblesse
EE/SWS - Active
Zerker/Trickster - Active
AW/BD - Active
BP/Wk - Casual
PW/SwS - Casual
TH/Pal - Casual
Please leave your IGN and I will pm you for communication, we prefer clans interested in pvp.

We are partially geared up.
yoyo :D
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF PPL
Post by: House on December 09, 2016, 06:30:33 AM
Quote from: Vexim on December 09, 2016, 12:04:26 AM
Re-think this party setup, it sucks.
Daggers are very mana-hungry chars and you have only 1 recharger for 6 dds, you will have 0 mp in 10 seconds during pvp.

1. Reduce number of dds to 3
2. Increase number of rechargers to 3
3. Thank me later.

We are not hardcore as before :),thank's for the suggestion, we initially started with 2x recharge, recharger rerolled to wc/ol he felt it was too boring to play. Just to have fun here, we aren't trying to make a perfect setup, we just want to play a few hours to have some casual pvp/pve.
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF PPL
Post by: House on December 09, 2016, 07:06:38 AM
Quote from: Clonage on December 09, 2016, 06:08:10 AM
You need atleast 2 rechargers.

Fighter/summoner is trash. Sorry :(

Personally i would go for the most used competitive gracia final retail like melee cp comp.

WC
BP
EE
SWS
BD
Trick
Zerker
SLH (played as mage)
TH

With substack:
WC/OL
BP/WK
EE/ES
SWS/EE
BD/SK(Why sk? Melee control, low mana consumption, Agros are not affected by any bossjewel, pt ud, TOD, AOE TOD)
Zerker/trick(With zerker playstyle)
Trick/SLH (With trick playstyle since you can abuse antibuff shield and not get overbuffed while "stealing" buffs and still do high dps as archer)
TH/Glad
Dagger/tank or BP/Pal

Since you can get all 3 kamael classes with only 2 characters you can add another bishop/pal for 24/7 flame icon(yes, it's based on cast speed) or another dagger/tank(maybe aw/sk, high damge and has aoe cancel). Either way you would have 1min and 30s high m def(2pranahs 2 pt uds). Single target and aoe cancel. Forcing rebuff is alot better then 6dps and if they dont rebuff = ez fragz.

There are most likely better comps out there for melee and dagger CPs. This is one of my favorite "theory" comps :P

Anyway, if you dont care about organized pvp(and min maxing) just ignore my opinion and play whatever you guys think is fun!

If I gave any wrong info pls correct me.

I personally think our present party with a second recharge would do better than this party,we initially had SE/BD as second recharge instead of AW/BD, SE/BD has Hex + Block shield which is a very good debuff for daggers, I agree with SK/BD for CC it's a very good combo it was a hard call between AW/BD and SK/BD decided to go for AW since its just more threat and fun(personal opinion of the player), TH/Glad would suffer lack of m.def, and buff optimization for your party comp would be a little tough, but as a dagger party we would not require so many critical rate and p.atk buffs enabling us to have more resist buffs,makes us stronger.

Thank you for the suggestion, we have just based this party on personal play style, we know it's not the best optimized comp, we are trying to tweak it a bit and fix obvious flaws.
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: Naiz on December 09, 2016, 09:13:08 AM
Hello Enclave :D
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF PPL
Post by: Peorexo on December 09, 2016, 09:16:33 AM
Quote from: House on December 09, 2016, 07:06:38 AM
I personally think our present party with a second recharge would do better than this party,we initially had SE/BD as second recharge instead of AW/BD, SE/BD has Hex + Block shield which is a very good debuff for daggers, I agree with SK/BD for CC it's a very good combo it was a hard call between AW/BD and SK/BD decided to go for AW since its just more threat and fun(personal opinion of the player), TH/Glad would suffer lack of m.def, and buff optimization for your party comp would be a little tough, but as a dagger party we would not require so many critical rate and p.atk buffs enabling us to have more resist buffs,makes us stronger.

Thank you for the suggestion, we have just based this party on personal play style, we know it's not the best optimized comp, we are trying to tweak it a bit and fix obvious flaws.
As dd's you only would need TH/Glad AW/SK and Trick/Zerk, that would be the strongest and most optimal party setup with enough AOE and single target damage, but the th/glad player would need to be more experienced than average to use its full potential.
Going double SK will instant win you fights if you can lay your hands on SK aoe cancel.
Melee pt's are all about burst and ending fights fast, but even considering that you SHOULD get atleast 2 recharges, that is a priority
as you mentioned SE/BD is good class for increasing the pt damage, but can be exchanged with zerk (violent temper, lack of block shield), EE/TK, EE/ES, SE/SK are all around good classes and can fit most party setups while not being boring and with strong presense in olympiad.

Well i dont mind the way you are playing as long as you have 'fun' (but the real one) and you will eventually come to some pvp's :)

HF guys and GL.
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: mruwqa on December 09, 2016, 10:39:51 AM
seem like Fear is the only clan on server doing tryhard cp setups to win  :)))  meanwhile rest is having fun :D


BTW HOUSE your dagger pt would be better if u trade  3daggers for rechargers and 3daggers for nuker/tank.  200% FUN  SAME SHIT 10TH SERVER IS A ROW :d
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: Naiz on December 09, 2016, 10:45:22 AM
As far as i know every1 from Fear are having plenty of fun. Regardless if with cp or without it.
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: Peorexo on December 09, 2016, 11:26:53 AM
Quote from: mruwqa on December 09, 2016, 10:39:51 AM
seem like Fear is the only clan on server doing tryhard cp setups to win  :)))  meanwhile rest is having fun :D


BTW HOUSE your dagger pt would be better if u trade  3daggers for rechargers and 3daggers for nuker/tank.  200% FUN  SAME SHIT 10TH SERVER IS A ROW :d
We tryhards sure while every other clan is full no-life on bots, 2-3pts at working hours trying to kill bosses, but ofc u will not see this because it is ur clan which u have to defend. Get head out of ur ass finally. Ur clan together with russians going 3pts at 8-9am to kill some bosses, FUN :D
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: Tinus on December 09, 2016, 01:20:04 PM
Quote from: House on December 08, 2016, 11:49:37 PM
Hi, we play 2-4 hours a day and little more on weekends,we are from a clan called Enclave. Usually 7-11PM GMT +1 , we all speak english and use TS, known each other for a long time.

WC/ol - Active noblesse
AW/SK -Active
TH/WK - Active noblesse
EE/SWS - Active
Zerker/Trickster - Active
AW/BD - Active
BP/Wk - Casual
PW/SwS - Casual
TH/Pal - Casual
Please leave your IGN and I will pm you for communication, we prefer clans interested in pvp.

We are partially geared up.

update : sorry the subject initially said people, it was mean't to be clan.

back to topic, feel free to pm me about the clan :)
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 11, 2016, 06:21:45 PM
Quote from: profa on December 11, 2016, 05:29:24 PM
good thing about enclave clan i remember is that they like to pvp

bad thing is that they suck at it

but atleast they are better than these clowns here tho lul

i think that clan exist more than some of these "top tier " nubcakes here play l2

i remember them from l2 dark side, frintezza or some older servers
Do you have even one positive topic on this forum?
Leave a guy to find a clan on his own and mind your own bussiness.

Bump
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: GhostSlayer on December 11, 2016, 08:24:14 PM
Quote from: profa on December 11, 2016, 07:04:37 PM


i didnt touch him in first place, he should find some clan to play with, i just wrote something about their clan in non flame way but with hard truth, duno why everyone gets trigered when you speak truth?

did i say encalve was good clan long time before majority of these clowns here even started playing lineage2? i did? is it truth? it is, i know this clan exists from like c2 days 2005 or smth, they maybe changed a lot of leaders and became worse but first, original clan was respectable

did i say they like pvp? i did ? is it truth? it is

did i say they are bad at pvp? i did ? is it truth? it is, but then again thats from my perspective, they are probabbly godlike compared to these clowns here tho

how can i be positive when everything is negative and im realistic man?


if you and when you ban me, my in game name is same just so you know
You are either drunk or retarded :D
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: Peorexo on December 11, 2016, 09:37:56 PM
Quote from: profa on December 11, 2016, 09:05:49 PM
whos the non factor quoting me ? on times he didnt know l2 existed as game?

can u even buff urself properly son, i dont think so

ur nick name says 30 iq and im agreeing with it
u are trying to start the flame war, but its not happening, you are just the next joke right here.
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: GhostSlayer on December 11, 2016, 09:55:08 PM
Quote from: profa on December 11, 2016, 09:05:49 PM
whos the non factor quoting me ? on times he didnt know l2 existed as game?

can u even buff urself properly son, i dont think so

ur nick name says 30 iq and im agreeing with it
u are telling some1 "non factor" ? :D dude pls :D
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: Naiz on December 11, 2016, 10:18:23 PM
Quote from: profa on December 11, 2016, 09:05:49 PM
whos the non factor quoting me ? on times he didnt know l2 existed as game?

can u even buff urself properly son, i dont think so

ur nick name says 30 iq and im agreeing with it

kurwa debil
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 11, 2016, 10:19:27 PM
Quote from: House on December 08, 2016, 11:49:37 PM
Hi, we play 2-4 hours a day and little more on weekends,we are from a clan called Enclave. Usually 7-11PM GMT +1 , we all speak english and use TS, known each other for a long time.

WC/ol - Active noblesse
AW/SK -Active
TH/WK - Active noblesse
EE/SWS - Active
Zerker/Trickster - Active
AW/BD - Active
BP/Wk - Casual
PW/SwS - Casual
TH/Pal - Casual
Please leave your IGN and I will pm you for communication, we prefer clans interested in pvp.

We are partially geared up.

update : sorry the subject initially said people, it was mean't to be clan.

BUMP
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: stanko on December 11, 2016, 10:44:37 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Msoqj4q.png)

So one day he wants to join us and the next day we are clown LUL rufl 30 iq clan who can't even buff (did I use all of his punch lines?)  ???

Make up your mind man, you seem to have some schizophrenic disorder.
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: GhostSlayer on December 11, 2016, 10:53:38 PM
Quote from: stanko on December 11, 2016, 10:44:37 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Msoqj4q.png)

So one day he wants to join us and the next day we are clown LUL rufl 30 iq clan who can't even buff (did I use all of his punch lines?)  ???

Make up your mind man, you seem to have some schizophrenic disorder.
Hahahahaah need to join us 30 iqs :D
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: Clonage on December 11, 2016, 11:15:41 PM
XD Kabally 2.0 trying to start a forum war.
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: stanko on December 11, 2016, 11:23:11 PM
C'mon don't flame him, he just came for nostalgic feelings, not to teach our clown server how to play  :'(
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: GhostSlayer on December 11, 2016, 11:33:27 PM
Quote from: profa on December 11, 2016, 11:06:30 PM
4 people used this acc so far, and probably will use it

whoever pmed you about clan, had 1 thing in purpose and that is to freak with you

if you think that id join ur clan or anyone whos playing with me for any other reason than to fck with you than youre in delusion son, anyway have a nice warm welcome to europe classic from top party there maybe you can come and show us how good you clowns are cause if we come here in more than 1 cp i think ud all quit in 1 week lul

like if i would ever go out and pm some guy name "GHOSTSLAYER" lmao 

xxxxpussyslayerxxxx or ghostslayers goes in same bag of dumbfreaks by account criterium
Please come, i am w8ing :D
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: GhostSlayer on December 12, 2016, 06:15:50 AM
Quote from: profa on December 11, 2016, 11:35:05 PM
you really think id waste 10 days of my life to play against clowns like you?

id rather go play in some mental hospital id get more challenge there than here rufl
u are already playing here and wasting time on forum clown ;)
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: Peorexo on December 12, 2016, 05:27:20 PM
Quote from: profa on December 11, 2016, 11:29:43 PM
il teach you how to buff urself cause you dont know probabbly yet, ur just a 2016 clown

im here expecting to find some old people that might show up after years but they didnt,

eq

cudakpl

you know who that is? ofcourse you dont, cause ur dumbass 2016 shitstain

and ofcurse getting banned from drake would be nice in long time or his minions
this guys were bad, if you think people in 2k6 played better than people are playing now, then you should probably just stop right here.

PS: there is no need to buff properly when u dont need single buff to trash people like you bro.
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: artMaster on December 12, 2016, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: profa on December 12, 2016, 07:44:31 PM
2016 clown lul

you must have sad life lul :(
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 12, 2016, 08:40:36 PM
Quote from: House on December 08, 2016, 11:49:37 PM
Hi, we play 2-4 hours a day and little more on weekends,we are from a clan called Enclave. Usually 7-11PM GMT +1 , we all speak english and use TS, known each other for a long time.

WC/ol - Active noblesse
AW/SK -Active
TH/WK - Active noblesse
EE/SWS - Active
Zerker/Trickster - Active
AW/BD - Active
BP/Wk - Casual
PW/SwS - Casual
TH/Pal - Casual
Please leave your IGN and I will pm you for communication, we prefer clans interested in pvp.

We are partially geared up.

update : sorry the subject initially said people, it was mean't to be clan.
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 12, 2016, 08:49:07 PM
Quote from: profa on December 12, 2016, 07:44:31 PM
2016 clown lul
Since you have logged this forum Dr Kabba havent logged ever since.
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: stanko on December 12, 2016, 09:40:31 PM
Quote from: profa on December 12, 2016, 07:44:31 PM
2016 clown lul
Start yelling ss2 and you are good to go
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: GhostSlayer on December 13, 2016, 02:52:10 PM
Quote from: profa on December 13, 2016, 02:22:24 PM
im not familiars with ur clowns here, since they are non factors and didnt played any serious servers or if they were nobody know they existed

but if you think im someone else you can always ban me and see for yourself

anyway im done with this server, i was checking if someone people gona show up, my job here is done

anyway im sorry im trigering you all the time, but i guess truth can hurth specially when you not used to it and live in delusion
so leave already non factor clown :D
Title: Re: Dagger CP LF Clan
Post by: GhostSlayer on December 13, 2016, 10:31:43 PM
Quote from: profa on December 13, 2016, 08:22:20 PM
>implying i didnt?

rufl 2016 clown
u still posting here -> implying u didnt :D
clown ;)