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Title: ETA?
Post by: wadafak on April 12, 2015, 03:04:19 PM
Hi, im an old player and i kinda want to start again.
But i cant find anywhere when the HB update is going to go live.
last announcement was 20th of february.

since its changing chronicles does that mean its a fresh start or did u find a way to implement the old database?

Thanks for the info in advance!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: trippledouble on April 12, 2015, 07:49:45 PM
Soon
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: wadafak on April 13, 2015, 04:57:13 AM
Quote from: trippledouble on April 12, 2015, 07:49:45 PM
Soon

"Soon" is subjective to a persons point of view like for me soon means a different timespan than for you. Thus "soon" alone is not an answer, as it can mean all kinds of things even years. example:"Soon after WWII, Germany's economy started to recover". everyone knows we speak of years at least month eventhough it says soon or "soon after the sunrise" which means hours at most. Hope you understand the subjectivity now. So please define your answer or else I will regard it simply as SPAM.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Peorexo on April 13, 2015, 12:17:59 PM
Quote from: wadafak on April 13, 2015, 04:57:13 AM
"Soon" is subjective to a persons point of view like for me soon means a different timespan than for you. Thus "soon" alone is not an answer, as it can mean all kinds of things even years. example:"Soon after WWII, Germany's economy started to recover". everyone knows we speak of years at least month eventhough it says soon or "soon after the sunrise" which means hours at most. Hope you understand the subjectivity now. So please define your answer or else I will regard it simply as SPAM.
I like you already, but the 'soon' reply is just joke about the staff from the past when they had some big problem and had to delay update by a lot.
Nevertherless we as community do not know the date yet, thats why HB OBT is still running. All we can do is sit tight and wait for staff to finish all the fixes and announce the update.

And about the "fresh start", there will be database moved from actuall IL server, although GM's already said that if you start new you will not loose much as server will be fast progressing into late game and PvP oriented.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Kabally on April 13, 2015, 12:36:21 PM
lollolololo
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: wadafak on April 14, 2015, 01:31:51 PM
@Peorexo thank you for the answer!

@Kabally thank you for the spam:)

@Admins seems like you yourself dont know the answer as you would have replied by now if you knew. Thats no the problem, ETA is just an estimate, i would like to know when do you think at this point in time, when no complications happen, will the server go live?

P.S: and i really do think they are working on it as they have retail-like Hellraiser going live soon too so they technically need to do the work once for both servers
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: enemy on April 16, 2015, 02:34:11 PM
 So hellraiser is about to start in april tara also or "soon"?
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: LancelotPL on April 16, 2015, 05:41:59 PM
Well some time ago we got info abot tara upgrade before hellraiser start now mby something changed
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Francy on April 18, 2015, 08:37:06 PM
Quote from: LancelotPL on April 16, 2015, 05:41:59 PM
Well some time ago we got info abot tara upgrade before hellraiser start now mby something changed
Ye.... About 4 months ago GMs made the poll about Tarantula, but DN staff hasn't given us any news yet about it.. Nice
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Gardax on April 18, 2015, 09:19:29 PM
Quote from: Francy on April 18, 2015, 08:37:06 PM
Ye.... About 4 months ago GMs made the poll about Tarantula, but DN staff hasn't given us any news yet about it.. Nice

Soon some news...  8)
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: reddragonjr on April 19, 2015, 02:02:35 AM
Gta V PC (gm's busy playing to after so much waiting for release heheh) fk the rest for another months Trm Trm Bana Bus haha.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: wadafak on April 20, 2015, 01:00:13 PM
So this Thread is open for more than a week and no GM/Admin replied. So is it safe to assume that this server is dead? Can we all leave for good?
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: GhostSlayer on April 20, 2015, 06:18:45 PM
Quote from: wadafak on April 20, 2015, 01:00:13 PM
So this Thread is open for more than a week and no GM/Admin replied. So is it safe to assume that this server is dead? Can we all leave for good?
My post is not flaming anyone here, i have the right to say my opinion. Will u leave my posts alone?
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Gardax on April 20, 2015, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: wadafak on April 20, 2015, 01:00:13 PM
So this Thread is open for more than a week and no GM/Admin replied. So is it safe to assume that this server is dead? Can we all leave for good?

You need more patience.There will be some news "soon".  ;D
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Teh noob on April 21, 2015, 08:30:27 PM
can i have a little more patience also plz? FASTER!!!!!11
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: trippledouble on April 22, 2015, 11:52:16 AM
I LOVE waiting.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: farenkl2 on April 22, 2015, 12:51:09 PM
Quote from: wadafak on April 20, 2015, 01:00:13 PM
So this Thread is open for more than a week and no GM/Admin replied. So is it safe to assume that this server is dead? Can we all leave for good?

You may never leave. And your assumtion is false, I believe they are working on it. They just can't give you an ETA. ETA could be progressed if you join and do some beta testing for them. ;);)
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Francy on April 22, 2015, 07:15:20 PM
Quote from: farenkl2 on April 22, 2015, 12:51:09 PM
You may never leave. And your assumtion is false, I believe they are working on it. They just can't give you an ETA. ETA could be progressed if you join and do some beta testing for them. ;);)

But they can say us an answer or something.. I pmmed Track by a private message but he didn't answer me.. They said that they would give us some NEWS (not the opening) in April but they haven't done it yet.. All are waiting, more and more people are bored to wait for 5-6 months without news and most of them is leaving server.. I think that we  should know when the server will be ready .
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: wadafak on April 22, 2015, 08:38:42 PM
Quote from: farenkl2 on April 22, 2015, 12:51:09 PM
You may never leave. And your assumtion is false, I believe they are working on it. They just can't give you an ETA. ETA could be progressed if you join and do some beta testing for them. ;);)

Believing is not knowing, so dont say my assumption is wrong.
AT ANY GIVEN TIME YOU CAN GIVE AN ETA!! its an estimate! The ETA of my wedding is in 3 years (i dont have a girlfriend) and still this eta is correct because thats my estimate!

That example is for all the idiots here who dont know what an ETA is...
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: GhostSlayer on April 22, 2015, 10:16:17 PM
Quote from: wadafak on April 22, 2015, 08:38:42 PM
Believing is not knowing, so dont say my assumption is wrong.
AT ANY GIVEN TIME YOU CAN GIVE AN ETA!! its an estimate! The ETA of my wedding is in 3 years (i dont have a girlfriend) and still this eta is correct because thats my estimate!

That example is for all the idiots here who dont know what an ETA is...
+1000000
Finally someone who understands things lol
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Morel on April 23, 2015, 12:57:33 AM
You got 2 months to holidays - pointless to open anything now.
Holidays - ppl wont waste time for siting in home just to farm items in video games.

Ergo ETA is autumn.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Kabally on April 24, 2015, 10:49:26 PM
I dont wanna be stupid or sh1t i just dont know why u guys stand and ask times.LOL

Server shuted down at april last year,i struggle with a full clan till november,if didnt work till there,why believe ?Im not even blaming gms or sh1t,things here are like this

Still i believe the server got fuked up cuz of artur and lucid bans at begining over 500 bans in less then 1 week,i was botting all day couting with my lil dwarfs the ban and expecting to no be banned,i can tell u all now a guy from my CP had 9 bots running and got banned 55 times,damn n1gga,we were surprised but doing 1kkk in 2 days,at 7 day of the game we were like,damn yo we rich b1tch.

Goin back to the topic..i dont even know what to say <3 SS2

Sometimes so high,other times so fly,i come here mostly to say Hi
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: wadafak on April 25, 2015, 12:32:41 AM
aight mate, dont care about the past^^ i wanna know about the future

PS: Hi
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Teh noob on April 29, 2015, 12:26:20 AM
Quote from: Kabally on April 24, 2015, 10:49:26 PM
omg why u ban me

i dont think u assume that since u re very 1338 u can bot and get away with it. on other side atm there re ppl on 9 box at raids and epics and no 1 moves so u re right from your point of view. the thing is u  need to keep these potheads attention with smth, and as i see hide adn seek and events in mu online style arent the juice... imho. ppl need ITANX . all of them. now. faster. asap. as little kids in school, players dont keep their attention for more than 15 min, unless they re "third party software" making u rich , or u make them do it.

btw dont read, i just spam
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: wadafak on April 30, 2015, 10:17:38 AM
yo, by now i would be even happy with a ''soon'' reply from admins xD
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Gardax on April 30, 2015, 03:04:53 PM
Quote from: wadafak on April 30, 2015, 10:17:38 AM
yo, by now i would be even happy with a ''soon'' reply from admins xD

Soon.  ;D
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: wadafak on April 30, 2015, 06:01:10 PM
Quote from: Gardax on April 30, 2015, 03:04:53 PM
Soon.  ;D

i said from admin bitch!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: reddragonjr on May 01, 2015, 03:44:30 AM
Quote from: wadafak on April 30, 2015, 06:01:10 PM
i said from admin bitch!
Soon b1atch!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: LancelotPL on May 01, 2015, 04:17:37 AM
opening at april !!!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Francy on May 01, 2015, 03:35:05 PM
Quote from: LancelotPL on May 01, 2015, 04:17:37 AM
opening at april !!!

Ye, April on the next year ahahah ;D ;D
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Kybel on May 03, 2015, 10:26:12 AM
+1
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: farenkl2 on May 05, 2015, 01:16:33 PM
Quote from: LancelotPL on May 01, 2015, 04:17:37 AM
opening at april !!!

There's rumours about new information this month.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: enemy on May 05, 2015, 01:34:06 PM
Srsly track u need half year to upgrade it to HB u had beta tester etc can u do smthing ur losing ppl every day and for like 3 weeks no reply from admins on any post
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: trippledouble on May 05, 2015, 02:47:19 PM
Soon
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Gardax on May 05, 2015, 02:50:45 PM
Quote from: trippledouble on May 05, 2015, 02:47:19 PM
Soon

Fake. Sooner then soon!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Alannah on May 05, 2015, 07:54:09 PM
Quote from: enemy on May 05, 2015, 01:34:06 PM
Srsly track u need half year to upgrade it to HB u had beta tester etc can u do smthing ur losing ppl every day and for like 3 weeks no reply from admins on any post

If he is not telling or replying, im not somebody to tell what's going on with his life. He should be back 10~ May. He has a life event on this week, so do I nowdays, files are close to ready for launch. As he will announce the concept we add the required potions, npcs and we are good to go.
Believe me he replied me 1 time in about 2-3 weeks, just left a message, that Project goes ON.
It will be upgraded otherwise we would not have announced. Unexpected life event, sometimes something goes bad, that's it. We are here and not abandoning projects.

Don't take it as I'm trying to offend here anybody, but the logs 95% show ppl test enchant rates, so that's all about "obt". Mostly all fixes, adjustments were made back-tracking NC changelogs.
As a compesation for waiting us to provide this, we will surely find and discuss something with the admins :)

I wish I could do alone all these things, but sadly I need Track too in order to move further ;)
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Kabally on May 05, 2015, 09:08:05 PM
lol gg afk
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: wadafak on May 07, 2015, 05:11:58 PM
Quote from: ^Alannah^ on May 05, 2015, 07:54:09 PM
If he is not telling or replying, im not somebody to tell what's going on with his life. He should be back 10~ May. He has a life event on this week, so do I nowdays, files are close to ready for launch. As he will announce the concept we add the required potions, npcs and we are good to go.
Believe me he replied me 1 time in about 2-3 weeks, just left a message, that Project goes ON.
It will be upgraded otherwise we would not have announced. Unexpected life event, sometimes something goes bad, that's it. We are here and not abandoning projects.

Don't take it as I'm trying to offend here anybody, but the logs 95% show ppl test enchant rates, so that's all about "obt". Mostly all fixes, adjustments were made back-tracking NC changelogs.
As a compesation for waiting us to provide this, we will surely find and discuss something with the admins :)

I wish I could do alone all these things, but sadly I need Track too in order to move further ;)

Thank you Allanah for your reply!

THIS is all we wanted: an answer. And we dont care about tracks life events, everyone can understand that real life goes first BUT no1 believes he cant find 5 minutes to write an answer because he did actually reply to other posts not related to this topic which proves he did not want to answer

PS close this thread because it will be full of spam, we wait for an anouncement soon
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: _NecroKINGS_ on May 07, 2015, 10:37:19 PM
I wondering why the players shouldnt let know somethings about server By STAFF. is it hard to tell something or answer questions?, almost half years passed to we heard about upgrade news. If you guys aren't ready for do new things. you shouldnt promise somethings to do then. I respect about his life its ok.. But most of  ppl no have more patience. You guys already lost/losing something from start. Now think about that how you guys will be successful with server :)
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: enemy on May 10, 2015, 03:57:06 PM
So may 10 is here any info?
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Alannah on May 11, 2015, 02:54:50 AM
Quote from: enemy on May 10, 2015, 03:57:06 PM
So may 10 is here any info?

yes, he told me we talk after monday
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: enemy on May 13, 2015, 01:28:22 PM
So its wednesday anything new?
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Gardax on May 13, 2015, 04:36:52 PM
Quote from: enemy on May 13, 2015, 01:28:22 PM
So its wednesday anything new?

He didn't tell you which monday.  8)
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: lightwing on May 13, 2015, 05:47:32 PM
No one is working on tarantula ?
Some plani ill be good to avoid ppl stop leaving the server.

Just to know , 1 week , 1 month, 2 month...
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: zarobekas20 on May 13, 2015, 09:50:58 PM
Quote from: lightwing on May 13, 2015, 05:47:32 PM
No one is working on tarantula ?
Some plani ill be good to avoid ppl stop leaving the server.

Just to know , 1 week , 1 month, 2 month...

2 weeks more and be 2 months, when my post was deleted for saying: 2-3 months sounds optimistic for any changes  ;)

To be realisitc: I dont think something happen in this month.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Alannah on May 14, 2015, 12:53:11 AM
Quote from: lightwing on May 13, 2015, 05:47:32 PM
No one is working on tarantula ?
Some plani ill be good to avoid ppl stop leaving the server.

Just to know , 1 week , 1 month, 2 month...

There is work going on of course. I'm full time back here. Drake has been told about obt down. I need that machine up first so I can access and adjust remaining script issues, which is quite few. Until then some client adjustments will be done(HB) + updater.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: enemy on May 14, 2015, 12:58:05 AM
And how long does it gonna take?days weeks months or again soon?
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Alannah on May 14, 2015, 01:18:20 AM
Quote from: enemy on May 14, 2015, 12:58:05 AM
And how long does it gonna take?days weeks months or again soon?

If I could answer your question, don't you think I already did? I told you the key is Track, need him back here fully.
Until then I can't do more than what I have access and knowledge to.
Project goes on and we will deliver both upgraded Tara and the retail hb too.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: enemy on May 16, 2015, 04:11:35 PM
GL dnet
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 17, 2015, 04:26:05 AM
Hello ^Alannah^ any info about update??  did drake told u wich day will be? or at least u have contact with him already??
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: wadafak on May 17, 2015, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: eliasjose2009 on May 17, 2015, 04:26:05 AM
Hello ^Alannah^ any info about update??  did drake told u wich day will be? or at least u have contact with him already??

we got an answer:  track needs to get to work and when they are nearly done they will give us a date

so wait for track
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: enemy on May 17, 2015, 06:25:30 PM
ppls are waitin half year for track and nothing is changing idk why they dont give rights to other admins so they can finish the project
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: GhostSlayer on May 17, 2015, 06:48:30 PM
Quote from: enemy on May 17, 2015, 06:25:30 PM
ppls are waitin half year for track and nothing is changing idk why they dont give rights to other admins so they can finish the project
i don't know why they can't simply tell us that there won't be any updates so we don't have to wait like retards
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: enemy on May 17, 2015, 07:06:56 PM
+1
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Alannah on May 17, 2015, 10:26:31 PM
Quote from: GhostSlayer on May 17, 2015, 06:48:30 PM
i don't know why they can't simply tell us that there won't be any updates so we don't have to wait like retards

that statement is not true and makes no sense, you think we would fund devs for something new and then no updates?
all I know has been written down already
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 17, 2015, 11:02:57 PM
Alannah but you really have interest in making the upgrade ?? if so, it seeks to Trak all the time to order you to do the upgrade, the truth that I would do if I were you, every day he was trying to communicate with   him, to give you the order...

Sorry if i sound bad!!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Alannah on May 18, 2015, 03:05:29 AM
Quote from: eliasjose2009 on May 17, 2015, 11:02:57 PM
Alannah but you really have interest in making the upgrade ?? if so, it seeks to Trak all the time to order you to do the upgrade, the truth that I would do if I were you, every day he was trying to communicate with   him, to give you the order...

Sorry if i sound bad!!

I do spam him daily and I feel bad in a way about it, but I'm trying to do my best believe me. I have interest of course, since I "ordered" already official autoupdater and acc system registration from Drake (through Track). You see what I have knowledge to, I do it, like I added temporary autoupdater. I'm fixing scripts to match HB as much as it can be, no other orders I have at the moment and to be honest nothing more I can do. I need Trackzero for these things, you need to understand this.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Grensid on May 18, 2015, 10:58:04 AM
Hope the project is moving forward. Would be glad to see any news about the progress and, most likely, when we could expect the update. Meanwhile I'd exp my PP/TH a little ;x
BTW, do you remember folks how many troubles there were with making server go at first place 'cause of the hosting problems? Do you remember how we've waited for Tarantula and it's great start? It took some time, bah, feels like good ol' days  8)
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Alannah on May 18, 2015, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: Grensid on May 18, 2015, 10:58:04 AM
Hope the project is moving forward. Would be glad to see any news about the progress and, most likely, when we could expect the update. Meanwhile I'd exp my PP/TH a little ;x
BTW, do you remember folks how many troubles there were with making server go at first place 'cause of the hosting problems? Do you remember how we've waited for Tarantula and it's great start? It took some time, bah, feels like good ol' days  8)

as far as I know it was some kind of german provider, you know the troubles with no access no reply etc
currently we are using ovh, not saying the best, but they are 1 of the most well-known providers

It is moving forward, I can't write enough times that I help the project with all my knowledge I have to.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: knoxville0531 on May 19, 2015, 03:12:35 PM
i dont belive that this track is an unreachable person or he is hanging with the obama merkel putin group?everybody have real life but in 6 month dn cannot make this upgrade cause of rl this is bullshit 6month 24 week.. if track work 1 hour on this project in the last 6 months its 24 hour more than enough........(and also guys u had a database from previous hb server valkyre nm etc, its not a new thing what needs ages to make it work)
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Alannah on May 19, 2015, 05:37:57 PM
Quote from: knoxville0531 on May 19, 2015, 03:12:35 PM
i dont belive that this track is an unreachable person or he is hanging with the obama merkel putin group?everybody have real life but in 6 month dn cannot make this upgrade cause of rl this is bullshit 6month 24 week.. if track work 1 hour on this project in the last 6 months its 24 hour more than enough........(and also guys u had a database from previous hb server valkyre nm etc, its not a new thing what needs ages to make it work)

since most of the private conversations are not to public, I would really like to show how my phone looks toward him
old database we don't really have, old files we do which can be used as a good source .. "sometimes"
Valky = c4 based, this = Gracia Final based downgrade, 2 different things, different formulas and more possibilites in this

I can't write enough times, if I could make this work and launch I would do. Sadly, my knowledge and access are not go that far to make this happen. I need Track and Drake in order to provide this happen. Eventually it will be opened, no matter what. We have a lot work and money in it already, believe or not. I have my requests from both devs and this admin team regarding missing features and proper setup. What I can do on my own I continue to work on. Isn't it a bit strange that mostly I'm the one answering here? If he would have free time I guess he answer you too, see the same thing is happening in real when I'm trying on phone, the only difference I got 1-2 reply sometimes.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: wadafak on May 23, 2015, 09:04:01 PM
Quote from: Kybel on May 23, 2015, 08:38:41 PM
DN havent so power like many time ago ... they lost it in Infinity or Nm time ..many ppl left .. and now they just lie ... its not good and your promo going down ...

Its still has the largest stacksub community, so we have no choice but to play here xD
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: enemy on May 25, 2015, 07:55:06 PM
I just dont understand why track cannot reply cause it seems like he dont give a shiet anymore about this project 1 more week and its alrdy june and this project started at 2014 nov-dec ...
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Kabally on May 25, 2015, 09:59:52 PM
It wont ever be back,i love tara,but players that believe and sh1t,put 2 fingers in ur head and think twice,as i said before,it went down april 2014,since there it just became worst day by day,ofc when it came up 1 month later it had some positive changes counting that online before downtime was 1400/day primetime. and after downtime it was 300/day,but after 1 month it was 800/900 day,noone here controled more the numbers then me,even i was advising gm's in via forum private message for numbers,they always answered,but if we all use our brain we will realize that to make players want to play here again,we gotta give something to them that others servers aint doing.

I know my post prolly disapoint tons of people,but right now i could be here with my guys doing all raids,this sh1t is empty.

Tarantula gm's did their best but in april 2014 something really bad happen and server went down for 1 month,too hard to change it 1 year later,still.

Holla at me when 700 online,i will log and bring a full clan.

Kabally
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: trippledouble on May 26, 2015, 12:09:53 PM
Yea. I'm actually just checking arround out of couriousity. I just wanna see what Track will have to say when he'll be back, since his silence and everythig is just hilarious.

If he doesn't give a freak, why won't he say it? Everyone would go they're own way and everything would be just fine.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on May 26, 2015, 08:12:35 PM
Quote from: trippledouble on May 26, 2015, 12:09:53 PM
Yea. I'm actually just checking arround out of couriousity. I just wanna see what Track will have to say when he'll be back, since his silence and everythig is just hilarious.

If he doesn't give a freak, why won't he say it? Everyone would go they're own way and everything would be just fine.
Hello and sorry for the long delay, you can use this post as reference:

http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,288096.msg2475496.html#new

I/we are back, and development of projects continues. However looking at Tarantulas current situation for past few months , speaking in population and finance terms, is quite shockingly DEAD.
Tara reached a point where it can not be saved , nor any upgrade can bring it back to life. Yes we can satisfy 20 people (*if im wrong please prove me differently ) but we wont give it a long life for the future.

We are building a new system where u wont need to grind nor farm, but actually just pvp 24/7, thats why this new system will be applied to completely new server sometime in the future.
We will continue with HB, as its nearly ready. I/we have to catch-up firstly with all the issues players have/had - to solve them, then we will go out with statement which kind of server and its features will start first.

Until then you can discuss things on forum, of course in borders of common sense and good behavior.

Thank you

Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: WhiteBux on May 26, 2015, 08:38:47 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on May 26, 2015, 08:12:35 PM
Hello and sorry for the long delay, you can use this post as reference:

http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,288096.msg2475496.html#new

I/we are back, and development of projects continues. However looking at Tarantulas current situation for past few months , speaking in population and finance terms, is quite shockingly DEAD.
Tara reached a point where it can not be saved , nor any upgrade can bring it back to life. Yes we can satisfy 20 people (*if im wrong please prove me differently ) but we wont give it a long life for the future.

We are building a new system where u wont need to grind nor farm, but actually just pvp 24/7, thats why this new system will be applied to completely new server sometime in the future.
We will continue with HB, as its nearly ready. I/we have to catch-up firstly with all the issues players have/had - to solve them, then we will go out with statement which kind of server and its features will start first.

Until then you can discuss things on forum, of course in borders of common sense and good behavior.

Thank you
make it from zero!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: enemy on May 26, 2015, 09:50:23 PM
Its dead bcause u admins fcked it up idk what ur wondering on that theres no future for this server even ur epic pvp idea wont change anything on it so ggwp.And about starting from zero means the population will be the same zero no1 gonna waste his time now when summer is here gl
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on May 26, 2015, 09:57:40 PM
Quote from: enemy on May 26, 2015, 09:50:23 PM
Its dead bcause u admins fcked it up idk what ur wondering on that theres no future for this server even ur epic pvp idea wont change anything on it so ggwp.And about starting from zero means the population will be the same zero no1 gonna waste his time now when summer is here gl
Thats one opinion, but also there are others who say differently. You comment a future server while you dont know its features.

But thanks your concerns.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: knoxville0531 on May 26, 2015, 10:08:20 PM
why dont u just shut down the server there is no point to keep it alive until the upgarde...
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Francy on May 26, 2015, 10:25:53 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on May 26, 2015, 09:57:40 PM
Thats one opinion, but also there are others who say differently. You comment a future server while you dont know its features.

But thanks your concerns.

Wtf Track serious? You're ridiculous. I say only this wrong.. You made us waiting for 7-8 months for updates and now you said that Tarantula has no chance. Why don't you make changes before when server had a chance to become good as before? Now all we know that Tarantula has no chance because there are online only 20 and less people so also with update server will never become as before. GG as I said in other topic with your and staff indifference in last 8 months the server is ruined by you. And about the idea for new project it's nosense because there are also too many servers and this situation stole people to other server in community so if you continue in this way, DN will never have a server with a stable population. But the think that make me to feel mad is that I'm sure that you're focusing on other servers and projects about other servers and that you don't matter really about Tarantula's situation and I remembered your words when you said "Tarantula will never die, we'll make changes and updates to bring it as before" .  But nowadays we say only a dead server with your promises since 7-8 months.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on May 26, 2015, 10:34:59 PM
Quote from: Francy on May 26, 2015, 10:25:53 PM
Wtf Track serious? You're ridiculous. I say only this wrong.. You made us waiting for 7-8 months for updates and now you said that Tarantula has no chance. Why don't you make changes before when server had a chance to become good as before? Now all we know that Tarantula has no chance because there are online only 20 and less people so also with update server will never become as before. GG as I said in other topic with your and staff indifference in last 8 months the server is ruined by you. And about the idea for new project it's nosense because there are also too many servers and this situation stole people to other server in community so if you continue in this way, DN will never have a server with a stable population. But the think that make me to feel mad is that I'm sure that you're focusing on other servers and projects about other servers and that you don't matter really about Tarantula's situation and I remembered your words when you said "Tarantula will never die, we'll make changes and updates to bring it as before" .  But nowadays we say only a dead server with your promises since 7-8 months.
Time changed, Tara cant be raised from ashes. Only new server with proper setup will atract major clans and population. If you expect me to please 15 players comparing to new hundreds of players,...i guess you would also like to play on well populated server.

DB of Tara will be saved of course, and i will try to find a solution to benefit both sides.

We move on, good projects are ahead of us.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: qash on May 26, 2015, 10:46:45 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on May 26, 2015, 10:34:59 PM
Time changed, Tara cant be raised from ashes. Only new server with proper setup will atract major clans and population. If you expect me to please 15 players comparing to new hundreds of players,...i guess you would also like to play on well populated server.

DB of Tara will be saved of course, and i will try to find a solution to benefit both sides.

We move on, good projects are ahead of us.

Tell me that u want make tottaly new project of stuck sub on new server*, please... :D
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Francy on May 26, 2015, 10:58:13 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on May 26, 2015, 10:34:59 PM
Time changed, Tara cant be raised from ashes. Only new server with proper setup will atract major clans and population. If you expect me to please 15 players comparing to new hundreds of players,...i guess you would also like to play on well populated server.

DB of Tara will be saved of course, and i will try to find a solution to benefit both sides.

We move on, good projects are ahead of us.

Obviously I want a server with a good population but I don't stand that you dropped out of Tarantula in this way after your promises.. And now you want to open an other new server but after 7-8 months we don't know anything about the project, what do you want to do and what kind of server it will be etc.. . I don't understand you, really.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: TFF on May 26, 2015, 10:59:20 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on May 26, 2015, 10:34:59 PM
Time changed, Tara cant be raised from ashes. Only new server with proper setup will atract major clans and population. If you expect me to please 15 players comparing to new hundreds of players,...i guess you would also like to play on well populated server.

DB of Tara will be saved of course, and i will try to find a solution to benefit both sides.

We move on, good projects are ahead of us.
No upgrade ,new serwer? So after 8 years playing on dn u want me to donate more and bring some ***s whos selling stuff for reall money again? I can say freak off to u m8 bb. Ban me if u want
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Gardax on May 26, 2015, 11:42:00 PM
For me it's very bad idea with wipe everything.

I can't believe that for admins: Honest player who has got items on account = player who sold items on ebay or allegro.

DN's marketing and PR slogan: Our servers will never be wiped means nothing.

From me: Good luck with new server and have fun for future players.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: reddragonjr on May 27, 2015, 12:52:09 AM
Can't believe this seriously after so many months wtf... Update the server make it 24/7 pvp with bound items all grades ( even by donation ) for new players so they can compete with old ones but not wipe there's 1000 solutions to make it populated again wtf.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: knoxville0531 on May 27, 2015, 05:06:59 AM
u should focus on this upgrade not on that fail titan server and also the other hb retail but now u can be happy with the 1 last corrupt dragon server with gm clan....u made a lot of player leave now im finished with dn gl in the future
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 27, 2015, 05:49:54 AM
them what's the point to give us hope...  u dont imagine the lot of people that is waiting for that update... most of people are already geared... i dont understand... we as clan wasnt thinking on keep farming bosses cuz just we dont need it.... we was thinkiing to full farm to get the new items... u should think on people that spended sleep's to only get their jewells... btw there's not that much people killing bosses it is just 1 clan that has 7-8 members.... there wont be a bigger diference.... think about it...!!


Thx.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 27, 2015, 05:52:09 AM
there was kind 3-4 full clan's  waiting for the update HB on tarantula... and 1 clan that has items that are the same than other 3-4 clans... think on it!!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 27, 2015, 05:56:34 AM
also think that DN is a company of SUBSTACK server it isnt a Fail retails server... if i wanted to play retail server i we're find another one... cuz trust me.. there's alooot of Retail servers... and my and my friends (we are 5 in total) was playing as honest way getting jewels... and we all have normal items Tall set's ext... that wont make a big diference... with those 4 clans geared... think about that!!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 27, 2015, 06:15:09 AM
u could think even on nerfed to sometime if u think that our items will make any diference... but how u going to think on let us without items??
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 27, 2015, 06:27:17 AM
there should be other way's that u can do.... isnt our fault that the players stop to play while "UPDATE" was comming...!! also im not blame u.. but thinking dont u imagine the effort that some players do to get those items wich we have...!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 27, 2015, 06:40:52 AM
DN NEVER EVER had make a WIPE on any of your servers..... and u wanna do it now why?!! there's should be a better way!!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: NBD on May 27, 2015, 10:54:35 AM
No comment
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on May 27, 2015, 11:53:39 AM
Quote from: eliasjose2009 on May 27, 2015, 06:40:52 AM
DN NEVER EVER had make a WIPE on any of your servers..... and u wanna do it now why?!! there's should be a better way!!
We are not doing any wipes. However reasons are pretty much simple. Server itself cant pay the bills for almost 6 months now, current situation on server is that we have 10 players online?
We had our things in rl to solve add on that other things that affected on cutting online amount and you get this kind of result.

We could upgrade Tara to HB , but it would only bring 10-20 people from this topic (i can even name each one of them who will join), and will that raise a server and help it gain population? Definitely NOT. Not a single serious clan would join on "old" server, even i still claim that Tara is a young server. All this above is simple logic and common sense on both sides (players and admins).

Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eagleye on May 27, 2015, 12:21:17 PM
guys I kinda understand what u're saying about this closing Tara - u got items and kept them even  if it wasn't profitable, all of u we're w8ing for this update to play and pvp again, and now T0 comes and says kk time to close, we can't keep it up. It's like 90% of time on DN - they promise smth, then they do it after half year at least, or are not doing at all coz of xx reasons.
But I'd look on it from the other side - how long didn't u see any response from Track on forum? he's the main GM etc on Tara, and I doubt he would not respond, even with few words at least once during this time if he hadn't some serious reasons behind it (like his personal life). So right now, i guess instead of just blaming him, u could also say to him "welcome back" or smth like this ;) and I hope right now that his master plan will be success and they  will make some OP pvp server where I won't need to spend months to get geat by farm pve, but pvp.

PS: naah, im not defending him - i'm still pissed off on him that he left Dragon on Glasy's mercy >:( but he is also human guys...

hope to see ya on this server one day :D
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: trippledouble on May 27, 2015, 12:30:12 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on May 26, 2015, 08:12:35 PM
Hello and sorry for the long delay, you can use this post as reference:

http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,288096.msg2475496.html#new

I/we are back, and development of projects continues. However looking at Tarantulas current situation for past few months , speaking in population and finance terms, is quite shockingly DEAD.
Tara reached a point where it can not be saved , nor any upgrade can bring it back to life. Yes we can satisfy 20 people (*if im wrong please prove me differently ) but we wont give it a long life for the future.

We are building a new system where u wont need to grind nor farm, but actually just pvp 24/7, thats why this new system will be applied to completely new server sometime in the future.
We will continue with HB, as its nearly ready. I/we have to catch-up firstly with all the issues players have/had - to solve them, then we will go out with statement which kind of server and its features will start first.

Until then you can discuss things on forum, of course in borders of common sense and good behavior.

Thank you

Thank you for the answer. It's actually pretty much all i wanted to see. Looking forward for this new server, cuz i think it's gonna be something really awesome. Good luck with other projects aswell and see you on the new pvp server when the time comes.

Gotta stick to league of legends for some more time:D

Cheers everyone!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 27, 2015, 04:08:13 PM
u cant even move our actually items to this "NEW" server?? cuz well as i say i we're played other server if u we're say that some time ago, and dont waste my and time of my friend hiving them hope, staff giving us hope... or at least make a deal with us?? the actually people playing...  or u will just cloose that server??.. cuz ure giving us a "HOPE" saving DB of tara... but it is not a really hope... actually player's was waiting hopefull the update and farming cuz of that... we at least deserve to get a DEAL moving or keeping or items blooking them while the server is increasing (im talking about LatINosProxl's CLAN) cuz it is unfair start again from 0... ofcourse the sever coulnt pay the bills... cuz it take so much time to make a update and you loose so many people... just tell us if u going to do something with DB of tara... if u wont, them we just have to leave...

Thx!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Gardax on May 27, 2015, 04:14:35 PM
Quote from: eliasjose2009 on May 27, 2015, 04:08:13 PM
u cant even move our actually items to this "NEW" server?? cuz well as i say i we're played other server if u we're say that some time ago, and dont waste my and time of my friend hiving them hope, staff giving us hope... or at least make a deal with us?? the actually people playing...  or u will just cloose that server??.. cuz ure giving us a "HOPE" saving DB of tara... but it is not a really hope... actually player's was waiting hopefull the update and farming cuz of that... we at least deserve to get a DEAL moving or keeping or items blooking them while the server is increasing (im talking about LatINosProxl's CLAN) cuz it is unfair start again from 0... ofcourse the sever coulnt pay the bills... cuz it take so much time to make a update and you loose so many people... just tell us if u going to do something with DB of tara... if u wont, them we just have to leave...

Thx!

Boss jewelery should be copy paste, I don't care about rest. Just give us back our time wasted to do Epics. I don't have time like before to camp Baium 4h in night LOL. If some1 has got 10 AQs on account let him to take even 1...
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: SrryForPvp on May 27, 2015, 04:20:22 PM
Drake  please listen . (Sorry for my english i am French ) when i played on Nightmare i send 1200 â,¬ on your server because its was Donation or Lose . But you created Arena x100 Substack ? Remember This server ?? its was a  ideal server ... Why , you dont restart a new Arena x 100 Substack server ? with gm shop  up to B grade , mana potion 2000 k mp  re euse 2 s , Noblesse Kill barakiel only . Sub free  bcs Rbs will be farm for nothing by TOP clan , in INTERLUDE ofc and with no donation but with reward vote . to stay in the 1st of list of TOP ZONE  / HOP ZONE etc etc  .. like all New top server .. AND you will earn a lot of  player ... make a good pub on topzone hopzone and other  website .  ( Juste  look on L2Blaze) restart every time 4 month . and every time  a lot of player ... make even for clan etc .... and  if you want  make me GM Event of this server and  all player will join this ... ( Donation if you  need  : for mask , everything to change skin .. all player like that .. Answer me
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Francy on May 27, 2015, 05:12:40 PM
A server like Arena will be good. It was funny, I played there with my brother Alfy. People there had only to farm a bit and the remaning time was for pvp. Maybe with mutant but they should be balanced. But the best thing is to copy Tarantula's database there for people, also me, who spent time there or at least the equip like RB jews, weapon and armor+++ etc. . If you do this, I think that this new server wil be awesome because it will attract old players but also new players who will see a serious PVP server with mutant or only stacksub. But Retail system server is bad because there are so many servers with this system, DN had success because Drake invented this stacksub system and DN is typical for this. So why do you want to create project/server with a thing that also 200 servers and more can offer us? In my opinion it's nosense.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: trippledouble on May 27, 2015, 07:17:14 PM
I think every1 reading this thread will just end up drowning in the river of tears lol. If Track/Drake would want to transfer existing items from tarantula to the new server, they would just upgread it w/o making a new one. What's a point of making a "new" server and then transfering there all the items from the old one. I think they will find a solution for all of you(i still have like shitload of coins, but i don't give a freak about them, since i preffere to pvp on new server w/o "these hard earned items", than pve with full items on the empty one, like most of you), so you can keep the items and keep killing raids and epics for "fun" like you did for over a year already here lol.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: knoxville0531 on May 27, 2015, 07:35:21 PM
Quote from: trippledouble on May 27, 2015, 07:17:14 PM
I think every1 reading this thread will just end up drowning in the river of tears lol. If Track/Drake would want to transfer existing items from tarantula to the new server, they would just upgread it w/o making a new one. What's a point of making a "new" server and then transfering there all the items from the old one. I think they will find a solution for all of you(i still have like shitload of coins, but i don't give a freak about them, since i preffere to pvp on new server w/o "these hard earned items", than pve with full items on the empty one, like most of you), so you can keep the items and keep killing raids and epics for "fun" like you did for over a year already here lol.

not about the items its about when this new server will be released and btw there are a lot of pvp server u just have to google it and all of us will do the same 1 month there and then its became boring (we just wanted to play here cause most of us started to play on dn) but after this 6 month giving a shit about the server made a lot of players leave..... I DONT WANT TO WASTE MY TIME HERE ANYMORE
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: trippledouble on May 27, 2015, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: knoxville0531 on May 27, 2015, 07:35:21 PM
not about the items its about when this new server will be released and btw there are a lot of pvp server u just have to google it and all of us will do the same 1 month there and then its became boring (we just wanted to play here cause most of us started to play on dn) but after this 6 month giving a shit about the server made a lot of players leave..... I DONT WANT TO WASTE MY TIME HERE ANYMORE

I know, since me and my clan left this server more than a year ago, cuz it was dead for months already(And it wasn't MOSTLY due to admins lack of interest, but carebear clans, which didn't want to fight us). There's tons of pvp servers, but there's pretty much none on Hellbound chronicle and not even 1 with stacksub.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on May 27, 2015, 10:29:52 PM
Quote from: Gardax on May 27, 2015, 04:14:35 PM
Boss jewelery should be copy paste, I don't care about rest. Just give us back our time wasted to do Epics. I don't have time like before to camp Baium 4h in night LOL. If some1 has got 10 AQs on account let him to take even 1...
Copy-pasting anything to newly opened server is actually the most weird thing i have ever heard. There is several critical reasons why not to do so. If you want , i can explain it more further, but i suppose you can recall them as well.
Camping bosses is normal in MORPG games, these jewels are not mandatory, so if you aim high then you have to do some effort as well. Shell we make re-spawn time shorter on new server? Definitely yes. It will bring more action and more pvp we all aim for, and on top of that majority of players will be able to get/afford those jewels. Ultimately it will bring strong enemy and more interesting pvp.

Quote from: SrryForPvp on May 27, 2015, 04:20:22 PM
Drake  please listen . (Sorry for my english i am French ) when i played on Nightmare i send 1200 â,¬ on your server because its was Donation or Lose . But you created Arena x100 Substack ? Remember This server ?? its was a  ideal server ... Why , you dont restart a new Arena x 100 Substack server ? with gm shop  up to B grade , mana potion 2000 k mp  re euse 2 s , Noblesse Kill barakiel only . Sub free  bcs Rbs will be farm for nothing by TOP clan , in INTERLUDE ofc and with no donation but with reward vote . to stay in the 1st of list of TOP ZONE  / HOP ZONE etc etc  .. like all New top server .. AND you will earn a lot of  player ... make a good pub on topzone hopzone and other  website .  ( Juste  look on L2Blaze) restart every time 4 month . and every time  a lot of player ... make even for clan etc .... and  if you want  make me GM Event of this server and  all player will join this ... ( Donation if you  need  : for mask , everything to change skin .. all player like that .. Answer me

Arena server was successful at that time, times changed. Literal copy of Arena at this point wont bring any success. But, we will make an interesting server, players friendly (*by saying that, i aim for low grinding/farming, constant actions, friendly donation system, cash-out system for the players, and other pvp things ).
About servers restarting each 4 months and where players joining every time, well..... i guess it speaks more about those players. Im sure such server admins are happy somewhere counting dollars, but i cant blame them, its you players who keep joining on such networks. Luckily , DNetwork was never like this and it will never be.
I do agree on marketing and voting, its something we will definitely do for new server.

Quote from: Francy on May 27, 2015, 05:12:40 PM
A server like Arena will be good. It was funny, I played there with my brother Alfy. People there had only to farm a bit and the remaning time was for pvp. Maybe with mutant but they should be balanced. But the best thing is to copy Tarantula's database there for people, also me, who spent time there or at least the equip like RB jews, weapon and armor+++ etc. . If you do this, I think that this new server wil be awesome because it will attract old players but also new players who will see a serious PVP server with mutant or only stacksub. But Retail system server is bad because there are so many servers with this system, DN had success because Drake invented this stacksub system and DN is typical for this. So why do you want to create project/server with a thing that also 200 servers and more can offer us? In my opinion it's nosense.
No matter what do you think or say, i still claim that DNetwork is one of rare servers that cares for its community and gives a lot of effort for it.
.."200 other servers" ?, i dont think so..Especially i cant think of any server that hosts HB (*except if you mean of that server which lasted 1 month and got hacked 4 times?).
About stacksub i agree totally.

Quote from: knoxville0531 on May 27, 2015, 07:35:21 PM
not about the items its about when this new server will be released and btw there are a lot of pvp server u just have to google it and all of us will do the same 1 month there and then its became boring (we just wanted to play here cause most of us started to play on dn) but after this 6 month giving a shit about the server made a lot of players leave..... I DONT WANT TO WASTE MY TIME HERE ANYMORE
If its not about items, then why some people in this topic botted and collected all the jewels for months accumulating them over several accounts? We all know why, and yet they keep pushing their egoistic interests to upgrade tara, while we all know it wouldn't change anything in players count.
New server will develop in following directions:
- We will step out with features
- We will discuss with normal/mature players about it
- We decide date
- *weeks before opening we start strong advertising campaign

Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: SrryForPvp on May 27, 2015, 10:40:36 PM
Ok, you said that you will make a new server, can we know when? about the feature ? I stay on my thought, a new server arena should be very interesting for old and new players. believe me. We are many players looking for a sub-stack of the old server as arena. It was well balanced between the farm / pvp pleasure !!! that have you lose by trying? But if you made something, it's really important to make a very good ad for your server and in INTERLUDE
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Francy on May 28, 2015, 12:39:24 AM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on May 27, 2015, 10:29:52 PM
No matter what do you think or say, i still claim that DNetwork is one of rare servers that cares for its community and gives a lot of effort for it.
.."200 other servers" ?, i dont think so..Especially i cant think of any server that hosts HB (*except if you mean of that server which lasted 1 month and got hacked 4 times?).
About stacksub i agree totally.
I think that you should consider community's people opinion because they allow the server going forward and in my post I didn't criticize DN community but I gave an opinion about the new server.. When will you give us some informations about this project? Because I want to see if I'll come back because I don't want to farm again like in Tarantula ;)...

Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on May 28, 2015, 12:52:02 AM
Quote from: Francy on May 28, 2015, 12:39:24 AM
I think that you should consider community's people opinion because they allow the server going forward and in my post I didn't criticize DN community but I gave an opinion about the new server.. When will you give us some informations about this project? Because I want to see if I'll come back because I don't want to farm again like in Tarantula ;)...
I guarantee, you wont!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 28, 2015, 03:00:56 AM
so all my items will be lost at the end??? answer it plz..!! i really wanna play.. that's why i keep playing for all that time... not like others that post and post and they havent any activity on the game... im kind 100% active on the server farming for be ready for the update...!! also if at the end u would not make the update why u didnt post it 5 month's ago :s... i really dont understand it... im pretty sure that the donator will have always their items... and regular players (like me) will loose it...!! is unfair for people who farm a lot to have items.. playing in a dead server for month's waiting for the "UPDATE".. i just dont want to loose my items...!! trust me when i say i died LOTS time trying farm 1 Zaken... now imagine a Baium.... that's what my and my people are claiming...!! answer us plz!!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 28, 2015, 03:04:55 AM
there could be other way for us... at least nerfed our items till the server get many many people.... and our items wont make so much diference... also im in accordance with the guy that say about those who has even 4 AQ's let them just 1... and nerfed it till a time where our items doesnt make so much diference.. and i say that cuz i just have my own set... im not collecting them...
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 28, 2015, 03:24:39 AM
look... as i remenber... there was a post saying breaking record when interlude opened with 2.8k + players online when Tara get OPEN.... trust me at least the half people will log if u make update if there is not more people... tara could reborn... but FOCUS on this server.. is preferable make that update getting focus on the server... not making the things just like that...!!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 28, 2015, 05:54:31 AM
just give the chance... to see how it work's !!  :-\
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: knoxville0531 on May 28, 2015, 06:28:41 AM
If its not about items, then why some people in this topic botted and collected all the jewels for months accumulating them over several accounts? We all know why, and yet they keep pushing their egoistic interests to upgrade tara, while we all know it wouldn't change anything in players count.
New server will develop in following directions:
- We will step out with features
- We will discuss with normal/mature players about it
- We decide date
- *weeks before opening we start strong advertising campaign

    If you dont want to "WASTE YOUR TIME HERE" , feel free to go, but please dont inform us about it because players who do care and will play has nothing from such "important" info.

[**] Thx

we were waiting for update and server was alive so we did what we did but u could shut down the server until it become HB or not so u could stop us to farm any boss yewerly etc on the server but u let the server keep running...
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: SrryForPvp on May 28, 2015, 09:50:55 AM
Man I am Sorry But stop said you want to save your item omg ... its a new server  for all ... donator or active player or new player have to restart from 0 ! stop want AQ zaken etc omg man ... and i hope the new server have no donation  for that !
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 28, 2015, 03:07:14 PM
SrryForPvp... u say tht bcause u didnt waste 5-8 month of ur time... trying get few items to be ready for the update...
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 28, 2015, 03:08:38 PM
maybe ure saying that because maybe u dont have even a Karmian set on the server...
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Gardax on May 28, 2015, 03:35:11 PM
Quote from: eliasjose2009 on May 28, 2015, 03:07:14 PM
SrryForPvp... u say tht bcause u didnt waste 5-8 month of ur time... trying get few items to be ready for the update...

You are right, but there is decision.
I can imagine the new server, two war sides: Excidium vs Mobs.  8)
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: WuWu on May 28, 2015, 03:48:51 PM
what a drama :D:D:D hi track  8)
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: ZeniT on May 28, 2015, 04:41:06 PM
fvck yeah.
wipe this crap tara and start a new one.
We have been waiting for this already too much.

We are coming.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: TFF on May 28, 2015, 06:40:52 PM
I think it is time that you finally understand that 10 years old l2 community has no time for unlimited farming and low rate servers. As you can see low rate hb retail server is opened recently, started high and after few weeks already dead and below 1k. People dont have time anymore for this kind of no lifeing, they want instant action on free time. We are in 2015, there are plenty of new games which gives instant action for few hours then log off and prepare for tomorrows real life things.
Thats what Tarantula will become, pvp without a compromis and a server where your stairs camping will mean nothing.

And let me tell you. We wont open new Dragon.We will make Tarantula to become awesome off Hb substack(dragons substack system) pvp orientated server. Jump on this train now, or be silent forever. Hmm who said that?
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on May 28, 2015, 07:15:11 PM
Quote from: TFF on May 28, 2015, 06:40:52 PM
I think it is time that you finally understand that 10 years old l2 community has no time for unlimited farming and low rate servers. As you can see low rate hb retail server is opened recently, started high and after few weeks already dead and below 1k. People dont have time anymore for this kind of no lifeing, they want instant action on free time. We are in 2015, there are plenty of new games which gives instant action for few hours then log off and prepare for tomorrows real life things.
Thats what Tarantula will become, pvp without a compromis and a server where your stairs camping will mean nothing.

And let me tell you. We wont open new Dragon.We will make Tarantula to become awesome off Hb substack(dragons substack system) pvp orientated server. Jump on this train now, or be silent forever. Hmm who said that?
Amen.

The only difference is that it will be new server.

Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: SrryForPvp on May 28, 2015, 07:45:09 PM
eliasjose2009 : I think i had wast more time than you man . you can believe me ... i play infinity x 5 dragon x15 raven too , nightmare x45 and arena  x100 . i play since C3 or C4  . so dont cry you wast time for 6 or 8 month . This server will be new  ! then ALL restart from 0 .. its easy to understand . But TRACKZERO could give us more information for the news server ? bcz we are a lot a player in waiting list lol . when you will do it  and the feature plz .
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: WuWu on May 28, 2015, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: SrryForPvp on May 28, 2015, 07:45:09 PM
nightmare x45


NM was x30!!!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: GhostSlayer on May 28, 2015, 10:48:59 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on May 28, 2015, 07:15:11 PM
Amen.

The only difference is that it will be new server.
So you lied? :D

Quote from: WuWu on May 28, 2015, 08:08:12 PM

NM was x30!!!
Hahahahaha i played on Dragon x30 as well :O
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: trippledouble on May 28, 2015, 10:52:06 PM
Quote from: Gardax on May 28, 2015, 03:35:11 PM
You are right, but there is decision.
I can imagine the new server, two war sides: Excidium vs Mobs.  8)

There's your answerL

Quote from: ZeniT on May 28, 2015, 04:41:06 PM
fvck yeah.
wipe this crap tara and start a new one.
We have been waiting for this already too much.

We are coming.

I'd rather have a quality pvp with Zenit's clan, than wipe the floor with "syndicate" members like before.

Quote from: TFF on May 28, 2015, 06:40:52 PM
I think it is time that you finally understand that 10 years old l2 community has no time for unlimited farming and low rate servers. As you can see low rate hb retail server is opened recently, started high and after few weeks already dead and below 1k. People dont have time anymore for this kind of no lifeing, they want instant action on free time. We are in 2015, there are plenty of new games which gives instant action for few hours then log off and prepare for tomorrows real life things.
Thats what Tarantula will become, pvp without a compromis and a server where your stairs camping will mean nothing.

And let me tell you. We wont open new Dragon.We will make Tarantula to become awesome off Hb substack(dragons substack system) pvp orientated server. Jump on this train now, or be silent forever. Hmm who said that?

Well said, sir. Count me in!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 29, 2015, 03:45:52 AM
u promise us a UPDATE not a new server and as u seeing mostly people here posting on forum... was waiting for ... idk why u can see that!!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Kid kotex on May 29, 2015, 04:16:22 AM
new server and starting from 0, only a few ppl want play and the rest just leave because they wanted for update not for a wipe, in my opinion the new server will have the same fate as titan
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on May 29, 2015, 10:51:10 PM
Quote from: Kid kotex on May 29, 2015, 04:16:22 AM
new server and starting from 0, only a few ppl want play and the rest just leave because they wanted for update not for a wipe, in my opinion the new server will have the same fate as titan
Lets do nothing then?
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on May 29, 2015, 11:26:55 PM
but Track why u cant trust on players and make the update...!! :/... u think players havent power to raise up a server?? or what?? Focus on the server... and making a  strong propaganda... the server could be alive with 1k+ people!! im sure and i think im not the only one thinking like this!!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Kid kotex on May 29, 2015, 11:55:14 PM
i'm agree with elias, promote the server, make more easy quests for example the quest for 3° class in my oponion this quest is so freaking bored, i dont like make this quest, making alliance with varka or ketra, killing first 100 and for lvl 2 300 and 700 more on wall of agos i hate this quest maybe if u make more easy and fast this quests, i know u can kill Archon of Halisha on Four Sepulchers for this u need a party or 5 ppl, all games have 3 different players

1. players love quest
2. players love farm and hate long quest
3. players just want pvp

if u make a balance for all maybe u got a good server, i'm agree to upgrade server but if u dont make a good balance the server never work, for promote the server u can use all social pages and stream, i dont know if in twitch tv only can stream official server but is not bad idea, others game like league of legend, tera, guildwars use stream for promote and they got good results.

well is just my opinion sorry for the englis xD, i'm trying to help.

PD: i'm agree to implement pots, mana combat haste etc.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: SrryForPvp on May 30, 2015, 07:16:04 PM
Track please .. give us some information ... its a boring to wait  for nothing .
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: knoxville0531 on May 30, 2015, 09:36:26 PM
no info about the update or the new server...the server still running but cant pay the bills by itself i dont see the point of that

ps: dont delete my post ty Track

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on May 29, 2015, 10:51:10 PM
Lets do nothing then?
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: forcecloned on May 31, 2015, 02:12:55 AM
hey drak, as the system works, how you set up a mssql database, is time consuming to correct redundancy, also is to pass information from a DB to another DB can fail, but the requirements are asking each Datapack OFF , win 2003 64bit server's CPU. Memory, and bandwidth, but all that you can be reached on a VPS service implies 2eur per month or more, depending on what kind of VPS lease, I think that what should you generate a population of 30 players put certain things in Donatorshop to give more popularity to the server, but taking care of pay to win, for the rest of the players can not make donations economic situation is not affected, now but bad memory, the first time I played dragon was in dragon C3. and until recently connect me and kept my data, I ask why not do it in that Hellbound ?. your you manage all the information of the DB, you know how many players were registered at the beginning of TARA server? about 3k players, because they keep the information, knowing that many of those players are the ones who will return, now want to have a monopoly? nerfea the boss item, and removes the drop enchant that are only affordable at donator shop. reasonably priced, so you can see some gain if you want to afford spending vps, and turn down the rate to exp to take more people up, pq is not possible for a pj of level 1 is made to lvl 77 in five days, playing only 4-5 hours per day, when I played in the alliance dragon I took 1 week or so playing five hours a day, and other mobs were hardest hp and def.
the idea is to set up the server and play, that you would take 1 week 2 maximum, eh fact I work alone and dedicating two hours a day
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: LancelotPL on June 02, 2015, 08:36:17 PM
i just want to know 1 think It will be craft server or everything will be able to buy at shop ?
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on June 02, 2015, 09:13:43 PM
Quote from: LancelotPL on June 02, 2015, 08:36:17 PM
i just want to know 1 think It will be craft server or everything will be able to buy at shop ?
Define "craft server" ?
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Alannah on June 02, 2015, 09:31:08 PM
I guess it's something like a retail-like way to get your items but boosted rates.
Example x25 craft-server, everything you need to spoil, farm (recipes,mats) but on incrased rates
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on June 02, 2015, 09:58:35 PM
Server wont be "farm" orientated , but you will be able to gain items in other ways. Of course , there will be some crafting as well, but dont expect grinding and camp fest.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on June 02, 2015, 10:31:25 PM
good choice btw my clan wont play  that new server... we we'rent spended 3 months farming as a fk in a dead server if u we're say it before...!!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: LancelotPL on June 02, 2015, 11:48:33 PM
Thx for info :)
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on June 02, 2015, 11:58:10 PM
Quote from: LancelotPL on June 02, 2015, 11:48:33 PM
Thx for info :)
You are welcome.

There will be much more information , until then we have to keep them safe , since there are few servers which are pure copycats.

Thanks for understanding.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: LancelotPL on June 03, 2015, 02:39:28 AM
Ok Ok im waiting for opening :)
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: zarobekas20 on June 03, 2015, 04:02:01 AM
Quote from: eliasjose2009 on June 02, 2015, 10:31:25 PM
good choice btw my clan wont play  that new server... we we'rent spended 3 months farming as a fk in a dead server if u we're say it before...!!

Server is almost empty, market in game says all how many ppl play there. Soner or later your 3 months farm could mean really nothing. On who You wanna use your farmed items, on mobs or players?
The truth is, you cant make from actual online on the server some huge online after chronicle change or any other changes. Was time to make it long time ago, now is too late.

I undearstand reaction of some players, make ppl wait for a long time and later come with totally different information.


A btw, its just my opinion, it doesnt mean I not wish good luck, but if new server be only pvp oriented (go fast farm and pev pev), then it will die faster than you think, admins.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: SrryForPvp on June 05, 2015, 11:42:10 AM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on June 02, 2015, 11:58:10 PM
You are welcome.

There will be much more information , until then we have to keep them safe , since there are few servers which are pure copycats.

Thanks for understanding.

OK track , but can you give us more information when  the server will be start ? 1 week 1 month 6 month ? plz . its boring to wait somthing with out  real information
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: _okazaki_ on June 05, 2015, 02:04:33 PM
@=^TrackZero^=

I don't see a point in a high rated rated easy mode server.

You might say low-mid rate servers aren't good anymore because people don't "have time", but most high rated servers last 1-2 months.

And was Tarantula really that unsuccessful (being a low-mid rate server) ? Did it not sustain for itself financially?

It started pretty well, then it lost alot of people because of poor settings at the start, but the changes you made prove that the server was doing well considering after the 1 month downtime the server actually managed to regrow from 100 to 900 players  by September (which is an accomplishment in itself).

People that don't "have time" shouldn't be looking at Lineage 2 for entertainment, they should be looking at casual short games like League of Lesbians.
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Francy on June 05, 2015, 03:14:51 PM
Quote from: _okazaki_ on June 05, 2015, 02:04:33 PM
@=^TrackZero^=

I don't see a point in a high rated rated easy mode server.

You might say low-mid rate servers aren't good anymore because people don't "have time", but most high rated servers last 1-2 months.

And was Tarantula really that unsuccessful (being a low-mid rate server) ? Did it not sustain for itself financially?

It started pretty well, then it lost alot of people because of poor settings at the start, but the changes you made prove that the server was doing well considering after the 1 month downtime the server actually managed to regrow from 100 to 900 players  by September (which is an accomplishment in itself).

People that don't "have time" shouldn't be looking at Lineage 2 for entertainment, they should be looking at casual short games like League of Lesbians.
Shut up noobèè  ;D ;D
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: eliasjose2009 on June 06, 2015, 06:09:11 AM
See that post?? "Information New Server Starting"... he is the only waiting for new server...!! what a...
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: SrryForPvp on June 06, 2015, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: eliasjose2009 on June 06, 2015, 06:09:11 AM
See that post?? "Information New Server Starting"... he is the only waiting for new server...!! what a...

Yes I am waiting for the new server  or the update  its the same for me ... But track say no update so its will be a new server ... stop cry omg ... And i am not alone to wait the new server ! .... so yes i would like some information .... its begining long .......
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: d4rknessqq1 on June 08, 2015, 12:16:06 AM
true you not alone w8ing for the server  !!! cuz ppl not posting that dosn't mean they are not w8ing
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Kabally on June 12, 2015, 10:29:19 AM
 http://i.imgur.com/ijnOBg4.jpg?1


Enemies never knew i had spy dual box all time on their alliance <3

HAHAHAHAH

Even olympiad we controled u guys when u decided to enter EPIC SH1T
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Francy on June 12, 2015, 01:40:56 PM
Quote from: Kabally on June 12, 2015, 10:29:19 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ijnOBg4.jpg?1


Enemies never knew i had spy dual box all time on their alliance <3

HAHAHAHAH

Even olympiad we controled u guys when u decided to enter EPIC SH1T

Ahahahaha  http://i.imgur.com/ijnOBg4.jpg?1 Cry mode level: Excidium  ;D ;D ;D

SS2!
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: Alannah on June 12, 2015, 02:57:18 PM
Quote from: d4rknessqq1 on June 08, 2015, 12:16:06 AM
true you not alone w8ing for the server  !!! cuz ppl not posting that dosn't mean they are not w8ing

our hands are tied too, new features for new server are already discussed - ordered to extender, once we get the updated files Track will surely let you know all features and infos
once again -> we need the eta from developers side
I can also say that cause we don't post anything or reply that does not mean the project is paused or abandoned. There is a lot effort in this project (HB files) not only work but financial side too.
Cool features coming, this server will be the only unique Hellbound around, not just because of substack but it's not going to be the usual retail thingy just like any other networks opening a project with boosted rates ;)
Title: Re: ETA?
Post by: reddragonjr on June 13, 2015, 12:44:23 AM
Quote from: Kabally on June 12, 2015, 10:29:19 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ijnOBg4.jpg?1


Enemies never knew i had spy dual box all time on their alliance <3

HAHAHAHAH

Even olympiad we controled u guys when u decided to enter EPIC SH1T

Thug Style!
SS2!