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Title: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on October 26, 2008, 05:05:40 PM
I would like you to post your story here.

Let me be the first.

Server : Arena
I started as Tyrant and leveled up to Lv. 75. Made retail gladiator Lv. 76 then added DN-sub Tyrant. Made both class of this mutant to Lv. 80 3rd class. Playing on Duelist status. Later I added TH as 2nd retail subclass.

Changed to starting class Tyrant and made it Grand Khavatari Lv. 76 then "switch class" at Sir Eric Rodemai. I got Duelist/Grand Khavatari Lv. 76 in female dwarf skin without Glad's skills.

Human warrior guild master says that I can change subclass to
Duelist
Duelist
Adventurer


Now I'm Duelist/Grand Khavatari > Duelist > Adventurer. Guild master didn't allow me to change back to 1st retail subclass Duelist because I'm Duelist(/Grand Khavatari). I could learn all skill on my levels (76).

I switched my status to GK(Grand Khavatari) and I got Orc skin back. Then changed to 1st retail sub Duelist. There I became Duelist/GK with all skills I've learned up to 80. Again, I changed to my starting class, Duelist, and I got Dwarf skin.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Alex on October 26, 2008, 05:18:54 PM
You got dwarf skin without having dwarf retail? O.o
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on October 26, 2008, 05:59:43 PM
Haven't you ever seen female dwarf with ponny on her back, using nuke skill ?
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Alex on October 26, 2008, 06:08:48 PM
Quote from: Finisterre on October 26, 2008, 05:59:43 PM
Haven't you ever seen female dwarf with ponny on her back, using nuke skill ?

nope, just some OL subs in dwarf skin which is basically should be impossible since you can't do retail to OL

so this is how people make two different race subs in dwarf skin without having dwarf as basic class >.>
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: zychu on October 27, 2008, 12:49:40 PM
u can learn again glad skills or not?
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on October 27, 2008, 08:11:36 PM
In Arena server, yes I could. I donno how it goes on other servers.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: twojstary9996969 on November 11, 2008, 10:54:46 AM
Quote from: Finisterre on October 26, 2008, 05:05:40 PM
....  Made both class of this mutant to Lv. 80 3rd class.
[...]
Changed to starting class Tyrant and made it Grand Khavatari Lv. 76


Can i do 3rd job quest 2 times ?
I remember that 3rd quest isn't repeatable , so how did you make "Saga of Grand Khavatari" quest  2 times?
Mby its only possible on arena...
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on November 11, 2008, 03:14:08 PM
Quote from: Finisterre on October 27, 2008, 08:11:36 PM
In Arena server, yes I could. I donno how it goes on other servers.

You did read my post correctly. I could change to 3rd class 2 times because we don't have to do quest in Arena server.

I guess you don't have to do 3rd class change 2 times to have 2 same class on a char.
For example orc skin tyrant > orc skin glad / orc skin tyrant -- change class to first tyrant -- switch class to glad -- dwarf skin glad / orc skin tyrant > orc skin tyrant (/ orc skin glad).

Then you can choose 1 which you like to play mainly, on dwarf skin or orc skin, and make 3rd class quest.

It's just my guessing and also I haven't heard any announcement about the bug causing crit error at logging had been fixed completely. You can find a relating topic in this section (tho it's old one).

Please try by your own risk.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: PoToSi on November 15, 2008, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: Finisterre on October 26, 2008, 05:05:40 PM
I would like you to post your story here.

Let me be the first.

Server : Arena
I started as Tyrant and leveled up to Lv. 75. Made retail gladiator Lv. 76 then added DN-sub Tyrant. Made both class of this mutant to Lv. 80 3rd class. Playing on Duelist status. Later I added TH as 2nd retail subclass.

Changed to starting class Tyrant and made it Grand Khavatari Lv. 76 then "switch class" at Sir Eric Rodemai. I got Duelist/Grand Khavatari Lv. 76 in female dwarf skin without Glad's skills.

Human warrior guild master says that I can change subclass to
Duelist
Duelist
Adventurer


Now I'm Duelist/Grand Khavatari > Duelist > Adventurer. Guild master didn't allow me to change back to 1st retail subclass Duelist because I'm Duelist(/Grand Khavatari). I could learn all skill on my levels (76).

I switched my status to GK(Grand Khavatari) and I got Orc skin back. Then changed to 1st retail sub Duelist. There I became Duelist/GK with all skills I've learned up to 80. Again, I changed to my starting class, Duelist, and I got Dwarf skin.

After this, you transfered the mutant to yor main class right? Did you try signing to olympiads? xD
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: javix on January 29, 2009, 10:47:50 PM
must work on olys :P
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on April 29, 2009, 06:31:23 PM
I will ignore any pm relating to mutant in dwarf skin. From now on, you will recieve a reply with the link to this topic.
Would be great if you use this topic to share informations.

I wrote all what I've tried in this topic so nothing to add. As all of you got my reply to your pm, and I noticed, I wrote exactly same as I wrote here and you've always found the answer. I've got no new information nor confirmation to this method through those pms. This is why I decieded to stop replying.

Thanks for your interest.  :D
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Skeletor on May 03, 2009, 12:16:43 AM
Maybe im little dumb,but i dotn understand where is that dwarf in this mutant  :o , if there is only orc/human subs  ???
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on May 03, 2009, 06:49:04 PM
Basically, you cannot have 2 kinds of character texture. (there are 5 kinds of character texture, human/elf/delf/orc/dwarf, as you know)
If you start as d.elf for example, you always with d.elf texture even on your retail sub/dn sub but by this method, you can have dwarf skin no matter what your original race is. (well actually, I've tried only human/d.elf and human/orc with dwarf's texture.)

If you see a dwarf floating a bit from the ground, that's mutant in dwarf skin.  ;)
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: narko3 on August 21, 2009, 10:04:56 AM
Quote from: Finisterre on May 03, 2009, 06:49:04 PM
well actually, I've tried only human/d.elf and human/orc with dwarf's texture.
i tryed to make th/sws. start sws reteil th get dn sab for sws swich in guild for main sws and in sir erick swich for th and nothink.
can somebody help me? mb in hb dwarf skins fixed?
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on August 22, 2009, 08:29:55 AM
thanks for posting.  :D

In case you missing a point, you have to "transfer" your DN sub (TH) to your main class SWS. If you are on your retail sub TH with DN sub SWS, you won't have texture switching.

First, you are sws > th/sws playing on retail sub, th/sws. switch your class to th at rodemai then go to fighter guild and change your retail subclass to sws and you may have dwarven texture only on th status.

Sorry but I cannot check if it's got fixed since I cannot login due to VC++ runtime error r6024 (it might be coz of MicroSoft keyboard/mouse driver ware but lazy to reinstall new keyboard and mouse xD)
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: narko3 on August 23, 2009, 07:19:09 AM
Quote from: Finisterre on August 22, 2009, 08:29:55 AM
thanks for posting.  :D

In case you missing a point, you have to "transfer" your DN sub (TH) to your main class SWS. If you are on your retail sub TH with DN sub SWS, you won't have texture switching.

First, you are sws > th/sws playing on retail sub, th/sws. switch your class to th at rodemai then go to fighter guild and change your retail subclass to sws and you may have dwarven texture only on th status.

Sorry but I cannot check if it's got fixed since I cannot login due to VC++ runtime error r6024 (it might be coz of MicroSoft keyboard/mouse driver ware but lazy to reinstall new keyboard and mouse xD)
i did how u tell :swich for main sws and in sir eric swich for th,but not effect.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Stensleten on August 25, 2009, 11:07:09 PM
I have main class TH//DE/PA. Is it possible for me to keep the destroyer/paladin but make it into Dwarf skin? If so, can you please describe how I can do it?  :)
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: narko3 on August 26, 2009, 07:17:25 AM
Quote from: Stensleten on August 25, 2009, 11:07:09 PM
I have main class TH//DE/PA. Is it possible for me to keep the destroyer/paladin but make it into Dwarf skin? If so, can you please describe how I can do it?  :)
no u cant
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: lesik on August 26, 2009, 02:33:18 PM
If i have TYR on main and retail Pal subbed on Destro (TYR/PAL/DESTRO) can i have dwarf skin?
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Stensleten on August 26, 2009, 03:14:04 PM
Quote from: narko3 on August 26, 2009, 07:17:25 AM
no u cant
U suck irl and because of that, I don't trust you. I want an answer from the author of this topic.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: chiquinl on August 26, 2009, 03:48:14 PM
The author of the topic said that u MUST be XX>YY/XX . So for example: DE>Pa/DE .... understand ?
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on August 26, 2009, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: Stensleten on August 26, 2009, 03:14:04 PM
U suck irl and because of that, I don't trust you. I want an answer from the author of this topic.
No matter if he sucks in real life, he's telling the truth. No you can't. :P

You should be Dest > Pal/Dest or Pal > Dest/Pal to have texture switching. I cannot assure about your case but I had made my Ty > Glad/Ty into dwarf skin.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: narko3 on August 27, 2009, 05:01:59 PM
Quote from: Stensleten on August 26, 2009, 03:14:04 PM
U suck irl and because of that, I don't trust you. I want an answer from the author of this topic.
kiddy, how can u tell thet if we never seen
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Stensleten on August 27, 2009, 10:55:18 PM
Quote from: narko3 on August 27, 2009, 05:01:59 PM
kiddy, how can u tell thet if we never seen
Because you can't spell....
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: narko3 on August 28, 2009, 07:14:37 AM
Quote from: Stensleten on August 27, 2009, 10:55:18 PM
Because you can't spell....
its not rl
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Stensleten on August 28, 2009, 02:20:34 PM
Quote from: narko3 on August 28, 2009, 07:14:37 AM
its not rl
So you're a bot?  ;D
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: atlant on August 30, 2009, 10:12:23 PM
and if i have an ol retail pr sub ol hopw i change to dwarf ?
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: narko3 on August 31, 2009, 07:11:28 AM
Quote from: atlant on August 30, 2009, 10:12:23 PM
and if i have an ol retail pr sub ol hopw i change to dwarf ?
go to  guild toswitch for main ol and in sir eric switch sab.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: a5h on September 01, 2009, 03:24:44 PM
Dunno if im right, but that dwarf skin bug is working only with humans - that old OL- Dwarf bug dont work anymore.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: atlant on September 01, 2009, 11:41:15 PM
crap
btw there can be only female dorf or male too ?
im not a pedo and i dont have dwarfven fetishes  :-\
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: shehan on September 05, 2009, 12:13:22 PM
Quote from: atlant on September 01, 2009, 11:41:15 PM
crap
btw there can be only female dorf or male too ?
im not a pedo and i dont have dwarfven fetishes  :-\

Just female...
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on September 16, 2009, 11:56:44 AM
Re-checked in arena server - 9/16/2009

After changing DN subclass
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8595/shot00039g.th.png) (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/shot00039g.png/)

After relog
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6232/shot00043q.th.png) (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/shot00043q.png/)

Texture switching still remains in HB.
Some says that human/elf combo do not cause this texture switching (I haven't checked by myself.)

Thanks to all who contributed information in detail.  :D
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Ulti on September 16, 2009, 12:31:48 PM
I have th/sws - dwarf on sws stats, human on th, same as before
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: felo41 on October 12, 2009, 12:45:33 PM
Quote from: Ulti on September 16, 2009, 12:31:48 PM
I have th/sws - dwarf on sws stats, human on th, same as before

lol grasz tu jeszcze ?  :D
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Ulti on October 12, 2009, 10:18:23 PM
Quote from: felo41 on October 12, 2009, 12:45:33 PM
lol grasz tu jeszcze ?  :D
Wejdę raz na rok, pobić noobków na bs :P Ale jak chcesz zasponsorować mi jakieś eq, to ja zawsze chętny xd
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: rincic83 on October 20, 2009, 04:08:05 PM
I have some question about mutant and dwarf skin. I am making TH/SWS and I start with TH. So I will take DNET sub in my main class, so players told me that I will become dwarf. And I DON'T wanna become a dwarf.   

So now what I am doing, I am TH now without 3rd, I will make retail to SWS and take DNET sub to TH.  SO I will be SWS/TH. I wonder if I Will become dwarf when I take DNET sub to TH from retail sws and Will I be able to switch on TH or SWS stats.

I play on DRAGON(15x) . If anybody can help plz post here, thx :)
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: fini@wiki on October 20, 2009, 08:10:42 PM
@rincic83
you will have human skin on TH and dwarf skin on SWS. When you are on retail subclass, you have human skin both on th and sws normally.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Ulti on October 20, 2009, 08:29:52 PM
But dwarfs are cute :D And u can reach 85lvl cause u are on main not retail
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: rincic83 on October 20, 2009, 09:12:17 PM
Quote from: Ulti on October 20, 2009, 08:29:52 PM
But dwarfs are cute :D And u can reach 85lvl cause u are on main not retail


Yes, dwarfs are cure, But I want to be male dwarf xDD

Wait, so I can be mutant and reach lvl 85 ??????????????????????

So what I need to do ?? TH--> retail SWS-- Take TH SUB.  Then go Back to main TH and switch to SWS ??  I don't get it :D :D  Or do I ? :D
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: DRAG0N on October 27, 2009, 08:01:29 PM
does it have to be orc female or any other race  and maybe male to ?
also do i have leave main class and the retail sub without 3rd class in order to get this result
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on October 28, 2009, 05:43:36 AM
@DRAG0N
Quote from: DRAG0N on October 27, 2009, 08:01:29 PM
does it have to be orc female or any other race  and maybe male to ?
I don't understand what you mean. You always get female dwarf skin no matter what your original race is.

Quote
also do i have leave main class and the retail sub without 3rd class in order to get this result
I don't know. In my cases, I made 3rd class Q later. If you will happen to make 3rd class Q on a class and fail to transfer subclass to your main class, please report details here.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: DRAG0N on October 28, 2009, 08:14:34 AM
Quote from: Finisterre on October 28, 2009, 05:43:36 AM
@DRAG0NI don't understand what you mean. You always get female dwarf skin no matter what your original race is.
I don't know. In my cases, I made 3rd class Q later. If you will happen to make 3rd class Q on a class and fail to transfer subclass to your main class, please report details here.

u said ur main class was without 3rd and after u subbed u finished the 3rd for ur main class... in my case iam necro/ee (both 3rd) and my main was necromancer without 3rd.. and i cant make 3rd for it cuz i made it already on the sub one.. got me?
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on October 30, 2009, 09:21:40 PM
Tested in arena with Bishop > Shillien Templer/Cardinal

I could not switch to Shillien Templer on main class Bishop but I could after changing bishop to cardinal (Cardinal > ST/Cardinal)

@DRAG0N
I think you have no way to switch DN subclass on main. Hope you answered well now.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: 4ek1st on December 20, 2009, 10:03:44 AM
Quote
So what I need to do ?? TH--> retail SWS-- Take TH SUB.  Then go Back to main TH and switch to SWS ??  I don't get it :D :D  Or do I ? :D

hi. i have this question too. is it one who can explain how to do mutans on dwars skin on 15x?? im 75 destroyer, can i do mutant ol/pal on this skin? and what i must do?
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Gex811 on January 06, 2010, 12:38:59 PM
 Witam  mam ee/ NEC w skinie th startowa to th i moje pytanie czy da sie zrobic z Niego krasie i ewentualnie jak na startowej th nie ma zrobionej 3rd
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on January 06, 2010, 07:57:41 PM
@4ek1st
No you cannot. Dwarf skin appears only on main class so if you want to make xx/yy mutant with dwarf skin, your main class must be xx or yy. To make ol/pal with dwarf skin, you must start ol > add pal as retail subclass > add ol to pal as dn-subclass > change class to main ol > change class at rodemai > you get ol(orc skin)/pal(dwarf skin)

Be aware that you must do 3rd class quest on main class after you finish making mutant.

@Gex811
Sorry I cannot read your language.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: dracko on January 08, 2010, 09:30:03 PM
Mutant w skinie krasia :)


Dobra, let's start. Zacznijmy od szkicu. Zmutowana postać wygląda w wersji tekstowej o tak (na tym przykładzie, BP/WC):
Człowiek - BP/WC///WC/BP///cośtaminnego (skin krasia na statach WC na main classie, na obu statach gdy na pierwszym retailu)
LUB
Ork - WC/BP///BP/WC///cośtaminnego (skin krasia na statach BP na main classie, na obu statach gdy na pierwszym retailu.)

Na sucho, skin krasia to bug graficzny objawiający się na jednych ze statów postaci - coś jak HE/PP ma skina woja na statach HE i skina maga na statach PP, w naszym wypadku taka rozbieżność skinów się, za przeproszeniem, dodatkowo jebie, i jeden ze statów dostaje skina krasia. Który, to już zależy od nas, ale wymaga to określenia JAK będziemy grać ZANIM wpadniemy na pomysł "O, zrobię sobie z tego krasia!", ba, zanim w ogóle stworzymy postać. Możliwość przebicia mutanta na 85 lvl i bycie na mainie to dodatkowy, jakże mile widziany efekt uboczny.

O co chodzi z określeniem się? Otóż bowiem, bug nie jest taki idealny jak wygląda. Więc po kolei:
-) Krasiem nam się robi ze statów PRZECIWNYCH od tych od których zaczynaliśmy. Ktoś, kto chce zrobić BP/WC, a więc grać jako BP, i być krasiem z 85 lvl, to MUSI zacząć jako ork WC. Inaczej będzie odwrotnie, i skrasiejesz na WC... Powrót na poprzednie staty przywraca nam stary wygląd. A to nam nie służy. Chyba, żes uparta bestia, ale to wtedy będziesz po prostu BP/WC w skinie człowieka z 85 lvl ALBO wrócisz na retaila, odżałujesz max 80 lvl i będziesz się cieszył byciem krasiem na OBU statach. No, ale ten 80 lvl...
-) Elfy i dark elfy się buntują. Jak stworzysz nową postać, i będzie ona elfem albo dark elfem - zapomnij o skinie krasia. Bug owszem, wskoczy i będziesz mieć ukochanego PR/PALa na statach Pala na mainie z 85 lvl, ale on ci nie skrasieje, choćby nie wiem co. Ale jeśli zaczniesz od człowieka Pala, i będziesz grał potem na mainie na statach PR ALBO na retailu na obojętnie jakich, to inna bajka...
-) 3cie profki. Najbezpieczniej jest je zrobić dopiero po bugu. Chociaż sama profka nie wpływa na to, czy się bug uda czy nie, ale głupio było by wylądować z powodu nieuwagi w czymś w rodzaju Hawkeye/Arcana lord///Saggitarius/Warlock, prawda? Quest na 3rd jest jednorazowy, a że bug wymaga dwóch tych samych klas w dwóch miejscach, czasami przez przypadek i pośpiech możemy sobie zniszczyć postać...
-) Można być tylko krasiczką. Dziadzia Maroz odpada, niestety.

Dobra, brzmi skomplikowanie, ale to ogólny zarys idei. Każdy/a z nas ma między uszami takie coś, co biolodzy zwykle zwą mózgiem. I ów mózg powinien pomóc w domyśleniu się, jak to działa i czego unikać.

To teraz jak to zrobić, na przykładzie BP/WC, gdy chcemy, by krasnal miał staty BP i na mainie 85 lvl:
-) Tworzymy naszego kochanego orka, nieważne czy facet czy baba, byle by był orkiem, tym od magii :P. Nazywamy go sobie jakoś.
-) Levelujemy drania do 40, zamieniamy go na warcryera, levelujemy dalej do 76 (75 styknie, ale 76 to S grade)
-) Quest na retaila
-) Dodajemy retail na bishopa
-) Levelujemy naszego kochanego bishopa na, hmm, 78? Tak na prawdę to i 76 styknie, ale...
-) dodajemy retail nowy. Byle jaki. Byle by był. Niech zostanie na 40 lvl.
-) Wracamy na bishopa. Subujemy go na WC i robimy switch statów na WC.
-) To teraz musimy iść do Grand Mastera i wrócić na naszego PIERWSZEGO, MAIN WC. Pyrkamy do orków... Oh... Nie możemy switchnąć klasy! Mamy do wyboru bowiem Warcryer i... Warcryer. A jesteśmy na Warcryerze. Ork nam powie, że nie może nas switchnąć, bo już warcryerem jesteśmy. Słuszna uwaga.
-) Tu się przyda nasza wtyka na 40 lvl. Idziemy na niego, i człapiąc na nim, idziemy do orka.
-) Ten dalej nam oferuje Warcryer i Warcryer. Ale już Warcryerem nie jesteśmy, więc i fochów nie strzeli. Klikamy na tego pierwszego na liście.
-) Wróciliśmy na niezsubowanego, czystego warcryera maina. Co jak co, ale w domu najlepiej. Idziemy do Rodemaia.
-) Switch class u Rodemaia robimy. O dziwo... WCHODZI! Zyskujemy teraz staty bishopa, nie tracimy levelu, i jesteśmy słodkimi krasnalkami.
-) Koniec. Teraz jeno wykupić skille, 3rd zrobić na obu statach i gotowe!

Wcale nie takie skomplikowane, nie?

Ale co, gdy chcemy powiedzmy zrobić jakiegoś mutanta z elfem albo dark elfem? Robimy to samo, z tym, że jeśli zależy nam na skinie krasia ORAZ 85 lvl, musimy unikać zaczynania jako jeden z nich. Przy niektórych subach to nie problem (np. PR/WK), ale niektóre tracą kompletnie sens (np. Necro/SK). Oczywiście, jeśli nie zależy nam na skinie krasia, to możemy zacząć od czego chcemy. Zaś jeśli nie zależy nam na 85 lvl, to możemy tego necro/sk zrobić, z tym, że będąc na skrasnalkowanym już po subie SK, musimy wrócić po prostu na retaila, gdyż retail subę swą zachował, i na niej grać. Plusem jest to, że na obu statach zostajemy krasnalem :P

I... tyle?


Jak ktoś będzie na siłach to niech przetłumaczy na angielski.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: fini@wiki on January 09, 2010, 04:49:55 PM
Myślę dracko to wyjaśnienie nie jest doskonały.

poziom po DN-subclassing
[SHARE] New lvl after sub calculator UPDATE FOR HB (http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,168124.0.html)

Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: dnetplayer on February 13, 2010, 11:13:37 AM
Im planning to make a necro/sws dwarf skin..

so ill make human necro 75 -> retail to sws 76 -> get horn and dnet sub to necro -> then change back to necro at NPC master --> then switch class @ rodemai..and i get dwarf skin.
correct me if im wrong..

so i get dwarf skin with SWS correct..? then i get fighter stats not mage stats..?
if this is yes..

Can I start with ELF skin and do SWS, so that after making my mutant, when i switch to Necro I will have dwarf skin and mage stats..?

I will appreciate ur reply thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on February 13, 2010, 01:45:21 PM
Yes you get dwarf skin on sws status if you start as necro.

As you wrote, you have to start as sws to play on necro status with dwarf skin. Just for a note, there is no difference in status/skill between necro(human skin)/sws(dwarf skin) and necro(dwarf skin)/sws(elf skin).
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: cthon on February 14, 2010, 06:31:27 PM
Quote from: dnetplayer on February 13, 2010, 11:13:37 AM
Im planning to make a necro/sws dwarf skin..

so ill make human necro 75 -> retail to sws 76 -> get horn and dnet sub to necro -> then change back to necro at NPC master --> then switch class @ rodemai..and i get dwarf skin.
correct me if im wrong..

so i get dwarf skin with SWS correct..? then i get fighter stats not mage stats..?
if this is yes..

Can I start with ELF skin and do SWS, so that after making my mutant, when i switch to Necro I will have dwarf skin and mage stats..?

I will appreciate ur reply thanks in advance.

and since elfs dont get the bug.. u will be light elf on both stats ne or sws
and if u start as human u will be human on ne stats and dwarf on sws stats but i doubt u will play it on sws stats
the only thing is that u will be able to get lvl 85

so now u have to choose : light elf or human mage

PS: im only 70% sure about light elf shit :D
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Aroneiro on February 14, 2010, 06:59:39 PM
i have 1 question i strat play tyr i i want make tyr/pal i must have only 1 retail to pal or i can have more retails???
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Marinella on February 14, 2010, 09:58:17 PM
Quote from: dnetplayer on February 13, 2010, 11:13:37 AM
Im planning to make a necro/sws dwarf skin..

so ill make human necro 75 -> retail to sws 76 -> get horn and dnet sub to necro -> then change back to necro at NPC master --> then switch class @ rodemai..and i get dwarf skin.
correct me if im wrong..

so i get dwarf skin with SWS correct..? then i get fighter stats not mage stats..?
if this is yes..

Can I start with ELF skin and do SWS, so that after making my mutant, when i switch to Necro I will have dwarf skin and mage stats..?

I will appreciate ur reply thanks in advance.
if u will start any elf, dark or white - u will never got dwarf skin, you will just have char mutant that can reach 85lv
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Marinella on February 14, 2010, 10:00:56 PM
Quote from: Aroneiro on February 14, 2010, 06:59:39 PM
i have 1 question i strat play tyr i i want make tyr/pal i must have only 1 retail to pal or i can have more retails???

y can have more retails, but ill not recommend you to do it, coz if you will delete your retail class with sub  with some kind of mistake - you will loose  subed char
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: cthon on February 15, 2010, 09:23:41 AM
Quote from: Aroneiro on February 14, 2010, 06:59:39 PM
i have 1 question i strat play tyr i i want make tyr/pal i must have only 1 retail to pal or i can have more retails???

fuking greedy ass... make just that retail and stop
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on February 17, 2010, 02:42:26 AM
@Marinella
Could you just post ss to confirm your information ? only 2 ss are enough. a screen shot of 81+ xx/yy with status window opened and one, after "switch class" at rodemai and relogging, with status window.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Ulti on February 17, 2010, 11:05:45 AM
Quote from: Marinella on February 14, 2010, 09:58:17 PM
if u will start any elf, dark or white - u will never got dwarf skin, you will just have char mutant that can reach 85lv
Agree, i have bp/sk which i make like dwarf - sk -> retail bp -> dnet sub sk but i have still delf skin on both stats. Unfortunately i can't confirm that i can reach 81 lvl because i have no time to exp it :D However i'm now o main class (not retail) so i think that this is possible
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Weezer on February 17, 2010, 12:10:36 PM
Quote from: Finisterre on February 17, 2010, 02:42:26 AM
@Marinella
Could you just post ss to confirm your information ? only 2 ss are enough. a screen shot of 81+ xx/yy with status window opened and one, after "switch class" at rodemai and relogging, with status window.

A friend of mine made SWS/HE, started as Elf and after all he didn't got Dwarf Skin, he made till lvl 81 or 82.

Sry but i can't get screens cause he left L2, but it seens only work on Human and Orc skins.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on February 17, 2010, 04:02:35 PM
I don't state before concrete source but I'll mention that if necessary.

Thanks Weezer ;)
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Deathsoul on February 17, 2010, 08:23:47 PM
Ok, im from arena server and i know excatly how to do this.

As example i make TH\SWS (mutant) dwarf skin.


First of all, make a TH lvl 76 (do not make 3rd), then retail to SWS (here you can make 3rd, and you can be any lvl if its above lvl 76 best). Get horn, sub to TH and here you can take 3rd class to. When you are th\sws with 3rd classes, go back to your main class (th - you need to be on SWS class when you want change back to TH). When you are on your main class (TH w/o 3rd) go to sir eric, switch class and you are th\sws in dwarf skin.

As i remember, you can only make max 2x 3rd on nightmare server.


correct me if im wrong :D
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Weezer on February 18, 2010, 01:13:20 PM
I made OL/NE and only made 3rd classes after was on main class as OL/NE.

So u can choose when u wanna make it.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: dnetplayer on February 19, 2010, 03:50:24 AM
Quote from: Marinella on February 14, 2010, 09:58:17 PM
if u will start any elf, dark or white - u will never got dwarf skin, you will just have char mutant that can reach 85lv

Oh no is this true I wont get dwarf skin coz I started ELF (sws)..? Is it confirmed that only works with Human or Orc Skin..?

I already started making one and I just finished Fates Whisper.. QQ
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: marty007 on February 19, 2010, 02:30:24 PM
Just one question. I have WL - TYR(3rd)/WL(3rd) on infi server. I can't make dwarf skin coz i have already made 3rd class on retail DNsub and i can't do transfer quest twice. Am I right? If not pls correct me.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Weezer on February 19, 2010, 03:57:02 PM
Quote from: dnetplayer on February 19, 2010, 03:50:24 AM
Oh no is this true I wont get dwarf skin coz I started ELF (sws)..? Is it confirmed that only works with Human or Orc Skin..?

I already started making one and I just finished Fates Whisper.. QQ

U cant make dwarf skin if started as ELF, but still can get lvl 85.

Quote from: marty007 on February 19, 2010, 02:30:24 PM
Just one question. I have WL - TYR(3rd)/WL(3rd) on infi server. I can't make dwarf skin coz i have already made 3rd class on retail DNsub and i can't do transfer quest twice. Am I right? If not pls correct me.

U can't make dwarf skin and also cant lvl up till 85.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: marty007 on February 19, 2010, 04:11:05 PM
Quote from: Weezer on February 19, 2010, 03:57:02 PM
U can't make dwarf skin and also cant lvl up till 85.

So only right way how to do it on non-arena server is : start class xx - make retail yy - make DN XX - do 3rd class on yy - switch by Eric to XX - switch by normal NPC master to xx - do 3rd class on xx and switch by Eric to yy and you are dwarf xx/yy both 3rd and can go up to 85lvl?  Is that correct?
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: KarnoV on March 01, 2010, 09:40:27 PM
I have PAL - retail TYR (3rd class) DN sub PAL

Im on TYR stats (3rd class), if i go to master guild, change class to main PAL, and then go to SIr Eric Rodemai and change class to TYR, i got dwarf skin and i am TYR/PAL in dwarf skin..... right???


BUT!! if I do that, can i make 3rd class of TYR again? or i will be TYR/PAL w/o 3rd class??

Please help!

PD : Server Dragon 15x
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Aroneiro on March 13, 2010, 12:13:07 PM
dwarf skins will be removed?
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: rincic83 on March 18, 2010, 11:42:18 AM
I heard dwarf skin will be removed coz that is BUG ofc... But I am not sure.

Anyways, I need some help here. I wanted to make dwarf but I don't want it anymore :)  
I want to make TH/SWS.

I started with TH, and make a retail to SWS. Didn't made 3rd. So can I just now on retail SWS Dnet sub him in TH witch is original my main class?   Then I will get SWS/TH I guess but I don't know If I will have some problems with making 3rd class on both TH and SWS.

Some help here :D


(Server Dragon x15)
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Finisterre on March 30, 2010, 08:04:23 PM
First of all, I'm not checking this BUG for long so please do everything by your own risk.

As long as we shared informations on this thread, you can do 3rd class q both on DN subclass TH and retail SWS w/o problem.
Let me explain a bit before going to further steps.

Set if you are TH > SWS/TH and made 3rd class quest for Adventurer on SWS/TH, you will be TH > SWS/Adventurer. And you cannot move your SWS to main TH anymore. If you are Adventurer > SWS/Adventurer, you can transfer your SWS to main Adventurer (Adventurer/SWS > (SWS/)Adventurer. This was confirmed before on Arena since we can have 2 same 3rd class on a char without doing quest coz of Arena Helper)

You can't do same 3rd class quest twice on a char besides on Arena. If you are TH > SWS/TH and made 3rd class on main TH, Adventure > SWS/TH, you cannot start 3rd class quest to Adventurer on DN subclass TH.
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: bigapple on March 30, 2010, 09:33:34 PM
Well friend just made TH - SWS/TH on infinity. First TH 75lvl -> retail sws lvl 79 -> transfer to sword muse -> DN sub to th -> as sws went to normal master and switched to th -> used sir Eric to switch to sws and heureka ... dwarf th/sws(3rd) lvl 75 without sws skills, had to learn all again...  made adventurer on that th and for switching using only sir Eric now... so he is adventurer/sword muse in dwarf skin as sword muse and normal skin as adventurer...
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: Shinyu on May 20, 2010, 08:55:31 PM
yo can anybody confirm that elfs (dark/normal ones)  cannot made into dwarfy mutants?
i heard such rumors but no idea if its true
Title: Re: Dwarf Skin on mutant
Post by: WujekDobraRada on May 21, 2010, 02:25:11 AM
Quote from: Shinyu on May 20, 2010, 08:55:31 PM
yo can anybody confirm that elfs (dark/normal ones)  cannot made into dwarfy mutants?
i heard such rumors but no idea if its true

You will get ur mainclass mutant but it won't look like dwarf :P