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Title: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: greg270 on April 23, 2009, 12:28:39 AM
only problem of this char is Mana:( this char lose fights when mana end:( exp slow coz mana end

so what options

enchant drain for cost :)

debufss power:)
HOp,CP cost:)

get bomt+ conv??
Antharas - 5%mp
i think best way get Augument with prominence,hydro,or huricane:)

any advices??
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: wildpussy on April 23, 2009, 12:42:56 AM
your best choice: delete char and make ee/ol

augment prominence? delete char and make a nuker, ee/sps is the best over-all

for some stupid reason you want keep es/ol ? malaria lvl 10 (helps alot), clarity (helps little), renewal (little), antharas (very little), dinasty robe (alot), and there are augments that help on mana problems, forget about leveling this char your self, that's just dumb, dont use arcana agility/power when it's not needed, mana pot = F1, dont use drain at all (only for self defense), you're a support char (with a shit sub, but still alot better than normal unsubbed OL)
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: PanzerKunst on April 23, 2009, 02:02:15 AM
if you are ES use the fcking ponnies for exp...
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: Finisterre on April 23, 2009, 02:57:17 AM
Quote from: PanzerKunst on April 23, 2009, 02:02:15 AM
if you are ES use the fcking ponnies for exp...
+1

OL has winter/hold/mirage/silence. You can solo with magnus in FoG.
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: Ulti on April 23, 2009, 02:40:47 PM
Use pony for mana recharge, don't use arcanas, buy dino mp pots, use magnus pony for pvp. And forget about exping alone, you can try use mass root + Merrow the Unicorn with its mass hydro. I'm trying to augment prominence in weap, I thing it'll help a little in pve, and it's quite good for mass pvp. Without it you can use drain only for pvp like 1vs1 or 2vs2 ofc use pow instead of vop, pow = more m.crit rate

Quote from: wildpussy on April 23, 2009, 12:42:56 AM
augment prominence? delete char and make a nuker, ee/sps is the best over-all

I had duel with sps/ee with wm9 and I win, so in pvp ol/es > sps/ee
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: PoToSi on April 23, 2009, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Ulti on April 23, 2009, 02:40:47 PM
Use pony for mana recharge, don't use arcanas, buy dino mp pots, use magnus pony for pvp. And forget about exping alone, you can try use mass root + Merrow the Unicorn with its mass hydro. I'm trying to augment prominence in weap, I thing it'll help a little in pve, and it's quite good for mass pvp. Without it you can use drain only for pvp like 1vs1 or 2vs2 ofc use pow instead of vop, pow = more m.crit rate

I had duel with sps/ee with wm9 and I win, so in pvp ol/es > sps/ee

20% m crit cape, doesnt mind if that sps/ee had WM or not. Just by drains you shouldn't loose, such an easy char to use..
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: Ulti on April 23, 2009, 03:58:37 PM
Easy? I don't think so, comparing to he/xx for example. In mass pvp you are debuffer, and you fight using pony. I think that summoner is quite difficult class.
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: PoToSi on April 23, 2009, 04:02:43 PM
Quote from: Ulti on April 23, 2009, 03:58:37 PM
Easy? I don't think so, comparing to he/xx for example. In mass pvp you are debuffer, and you fight using pony. I think that summoner is quite difficult class.

1/20 EE/ES/OL does something with debuffs. Rest just spam that stupid drain.

Mass PvP: Spam CP reg, so hard :p
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: stanko on April 23, 2009, 04:07:30 PM
Quote from: greg270 on April 23, 2009, 12:28:39 AM
only problem of this char is Mana:( this char lose fights when mana end:( exp slow coz mana end

so what options

enchant drain for cost :)

debufss power:)
HOp,CP cost:)

get bomt+ conv??
Antharas - 5%mp
i think best way get Augument with prominence,hydro,or huricane:)

any advices??

Maybe learn how to use summoners skills not only high WIT and arc. agility from summoner and you could do something...
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: wildpussy on April 23, 2009, 07:32:53 PM
Quote from: Ulti on April 23, 2009, 02:40:47 PM
I had duel with sps/ee with wm9 and I win, so in pvp ol/es > sps/ee
lol...  :-X
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: kidicarus on April 23, 2009, 07:47:42 PM
Quote from: Ulti on April 23, 2009, 02:40:47 PM
Use pony for mana recharge, don't use arcanas, buy dino mp pots, use magnus pony for pvp.

You seriously suggest he should use the pony that steals about 90% of your exp for PvE?

This is definately a party char.... if you must do something alone it isn't hard to use the unicorn to kill stuff... especially if you bring a bd/pp or something to buff the summon. But as for all supportclasses you will need a party for exp.
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: -JM- on April 23, 2009, 11:12:04 PM
Quote from: wildpussy on April 23, 2009, 12:42:56 AM
your best choice: delete char and make ee/ol


same problem that ol/es
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: Dadghamor on April 23, 2009, 11:35:46 PM
look for a Aug that restore 138 mp every 2-3 hit you  take.  seems stupid but  if you aggro 4-5 mob at  once they will restore your mana while you kill them.Or exp  by train
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: Ulti on April 24, 2009, 12:44:01 PM
Quote from: kidicarus on April 23, 2009, 07:47:42 PM
You seriously suggest he should use the pony that steals about 90% of your exp for PvE?

lol? I said him to use magnus that takes 10% of exp. I've never use mirage. In pt for exp I use seraphim because of buff and I just make trains, than use mass root.
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: WindPhoenix on April 24, 2009, 01:07:23 PM
Quote from: kidicarus on April 23, 2009, 07:47:42 PM
You seriously suggest he should use the pony that steals about 90% of your exp for PvE?

This is definately a party char.... if you must do something alone it isn't hard to use the unicorn to kill stuff... especially if you bring a bd/pp or something to buff the summon. But as for all supportclasses you will need a party for exp.
.... get better info regarding pony exp consumption mate.
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: kidicarus on April 24, 2009, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: Ulti on April 23, 2009, 02:40:47 PM
Use pony for mana recharge, don't use arcanas, buy dino mp pots, use magnus pony for pvp.

Recharging pony aka Boxer unicorn steals 90% exp doesn't it? (can't check lineage2.com at work...)
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: Alex on April 24, 2009, 01:17:26 PM
Quote from: kidicarus on April 24, 2009, 01:10:18 PM
Recharging pony aka Boxer unicorn steals 90% exp doesn't it? (can't check lineage2.com at work...)

30%
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: kidicarus on April 24, 2009, 01:46:29 PM
Quote from: Alex on April 24, 2009, 01:17:26 PM
30%

Ahhh kk my bad. Mixed it up with mirage i guess.
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: greg270 on May 02, 2009, 01:18:17 AM
delete is solution for ppl wich give up fast

its best char on siges, on full buff, has TP + Soul guard , with tattos mdef , have highest pdef, and mdef, great nukes on siren+pow+wm:) no resist on his drains^^ ol/ee have less matk (no dyes+int) but have arcane wisdom wich makes real kiling mahine from ol/ee

good option in hellbound will be wc/es (emp clarity from horse ,and wc has arcane wisdom -30%mp like EE)
in hellbound ol/es will be much beter( clarity, wm from horse)

i go on exp
exp on follow usualy, trains on varka with friends sometime
when will get augument like huricane in my AM i will nuke myself

using boxter and malaria all the time:) matk tatoos
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: stanko on May 02, 2009, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: greg270 on May 02, 2009, 01:18:17 AM
delete is solution for ppl wich give up fast

its best char on siges, on full buff, has TP + Soul guard , with tattos mdef , have highest pdef, and mdef, great nukes on siren+pow+wm:) no resist on his drains^^ ol/ee have less matk (no dyes+int) but have arcane wisdom wich makes real kiling mahine from ol/ee

good option in hellbound will be wc/es (emp clarity from horse ,and wc has arcane wisdom -30%mp like EE)
in hellbound ol/es will be much beter( clarity, wm from horse)

i go on exp
exp on follow usualy, trains on varka with friends sometime
when will get augument like huricane in my AM i will nuke myself

using boxter and malaria all the time:) matk tatoos
If I'm not wrong, summon's buffs are Gracia feature?
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: Ulti on May 02, 2009, 08:54:34 PM
Quote from: stanko on May 02, 2009, 11:19:40 AM
If I'm not wrong, summon's buffs are Gracia feature?
You're right, in IL there are only buffs for mp regen and skill reuse


@greg270 I wonder if you have dyes +INT and tattoos for m.atk or +WIT and c.spd like me. I think that adding INT instead of WIT is misunderstanding, it'll difficult to kill more that one person without m.crits. I have to try tattoos for m.atk...
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: XForCE on May 04, 2009, 12:16:44 AM
Quote from: greg270 on April 23, 2009, 12:28:39 AM
only problem of this char is Mana:( this char lose fights when mana end:( exp slow coz mana end

so what options

enchant drain for cost :)

debufss power:)
HOp,CP cost:)

get bomt+ conv??
Antharas - 5%mp
i think best way get Augument with prominence,hydro,or huricane:)

any advices??


just make sure that u have a sws/ee as a buffer bot
it keeps on rechargeing u well ,(u and the buff pot should be in same ally so that the buffer takes ur buffs)
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: Gunit on May 05, 2009, 04:28:24 AM
Quote from: greg270 on May 02, 2009, 01:18:17 AM
no resist on his drains

Fire
Title: Re: pvp exp problem with OL/ES
Post by: Ulti on May 05, 2009, 06:24:46 AM
On HB drains will have fire attribute.