hello, was wondering wich dynasty set to buy light or heavy for a pr/bd been aways for a while and need some refresh please
Depends on your playstyle and your enemies.
Quote from: Furesy on May 01, 2009, 07:39:08 PM
Depends on your playstyle and your enemies.
1 question,isn't better BD/PR with Dyna Light,cos of Evasion,Acc.,etc...?
Isn't it better to avoid some hits than a little more P.Def?.
yeah good question p.def or evasion...since i see many archers now wich is better?
Quote from: Sephiroth on May 01, 2009, 07:47:09 PM
1 question,isn't better BD/PR with Dyna Light,cos of Evasion,Acc.,etc...?
Isn't it better to avoid some hits than a little more P.Def?.
Still depends on the way you play, buff yourself and on your enemy lol :)
i guess evasion is better.....so light too :)
I'm wondering about hellbound and dynasty sets :> cos they will have new bonuses or I'm wrong ?:> http://l2info.arktic.net/armor_sets_s80.html (http://l2info.arktic.net/armor_sets_s80.html) . I dont want to make new topic thats why I put this info here :) Maybe it will be helpful for this topic.(if we think about future )
Quote from: xMaRkO on May 01, 2009, 08:11:50 PM
I'm wondering about hellbound and dynasty sets :> cos they will have new bonuses or I'm wrong ?:> http://l2info.arktic.net/armor_sets_s80.html (http://l2info.arktic.net/armor_sets_s80.html) . I dont want to make new topic thats why I put this info here :) Maybe it will be helpful for this topic.(if we think about future )
Your wrong, the Dynasty sets we have on DN were never the same as the official ones, the bonusses we have are DN custom, they never were like this on official.
Quote from: Furesy on May 01, 2009, 08:13:19 PM
Your wrong, the Dynasty sets we have on DN were never the same as the official ones, the bonusses we have are DN custom, they never were like this on official.
But If hellbound will be applied we will have propably also this soulder pads, so maybe some bonuses will change ?
Quote from: xMaRkO on May 01, 2009, 08:15:41 PM
But If hellbound will be applied we will have propably also this soulder pads, so maybe some bonuses will change ?
Who knows!
Quote from: xMaRkO on May 01, 2009, 08:11:50 PM
I'm wondering about hellbound and dynasty sets :> cos they will have new bonuses or I'm wrong ?:> http://l2info.arktic.net/armor_sets_s80.html (http://l2info.arktic.net/armor_sets_s80.html) . I dont want to make new topic thats why I put this info here :) Maybe it will be helpful for this topic.(if we think about future )
these dynasty sets arent even really the dynasty sets. drake just use some files from kamael client and gave them custom bonuses, cuz dynasty comes with kamael and drake could not use a full parts in IL client :D just look how funny looks ork fighter in dynasty heavy :D
i tryied on pr/bd both heavy and light
i vote for light
I was using both too but my vote goes for heavy :)
vote for heavy :P
with good clan to buff u, go for heavy and -9 to cons (+4 dex + 5 str)
ogre emp lvl 4
pr is for pure crit damage, so u have to maximize it
otherwise, reroll to he or sr
Quote from: Dag on May 02, 2009, 10:11:04 AM
with good clan to buff u, go for heavy and -9 to cons (+4 dex + 5 str)
ogre emp lvl 4
pr is for pure crit damage, so u have to maximize it
otherwise, reroll to he or sr
So I'd need to have a look at Dyna sets bonuses,anybody could post'em? Or a link?
dinasty heavy - more patk (+2 STR), pdef (it's heavy...), mdef (6%), HP (+3 CON), UD lvl1 works better
dinasty light - more atk spd (8%), evasion (it's light..), +300 mana, UE lvl 1 works better
mostly good players wear heavy, and donators wearing light
go choose
Quote from: wildpussy on May 02, 2009, 11:14:14 AM
dinasty heavy - more patk (+2 STR), pdef (it's heavy...), mdef (6%), HP (+3 CON), UD lvl1 works better
dinasty light - more atk spd (8%), evasion (it's light..), +300 mana, UE lvl 1 works better
mostly good players wear heavy, and donators wearing light
go choose
No doubt.
Dyna Light,cos of better A.Speed,so using Dead Eye+Ogres u woudn't hit that slow.Plus Evasion bonus+UE,u should avoid many arrows.
Ogre? He's Pr/BD. And according to the stats I'd take dynasty heavy due to the m.def. I doubt that bd gets the full Anti-Magic skills as the Shillien Knight does? You might lose a little bit on movement (evasion I mean) but you are way stronger and against the other archers you have deflect arrow which DOES help
actualy if you talk about using ogres, then take heavy, swap 1 tattoo for a monk, and u have both better patk and atk spd than in light
oh and forgot to say, light has much better accuracy
Quote from: AmayZang on May 02, 2009, 11:34:43 AM
Ogre? He's Pr/BD. And according to the stats I'd take dynasty heavy due to the m.def. I doubt that bd gets the full Anti-Magic skills as the Shillien Knight does? You might lose a little bit on movement (evasion I mean) but you are way stronger and against the other archers you have deflect arrow which DOES help
Ye,Ogre,that tatoo for P.Atack....
Oh! ye! a 3% M.Def and more P.Def is so good compared with Evasion,Acc,Speed,A.Speed,etc....
What for P.Def if u can avoid those hits? What for P.Def if u have Deflect Arrow?
Quote from: wildpussy on May 02, 2009, 11:34:51 AM
actualy if you talk about using ogres, then take heavy, swap 1 tattoo for a monk, and u have both better patk and atk spd than in light
oh and forgot to say, light has much better accuracy
Better? I doubt it.
Quote from: wildpussy on May 02, 2009, 11:14:14 AM
dinasty heavy - more patk (+2 STR), pdef (it's heavy...), mdef (6%), HP (+3 CON), UD lvl1 works better
dinasty light - more atk spd (8%), evasion (it's light..), +300 mana, UE lvl 1 works better
mostly good players wear heavy, and donators wearing light
go choose
oh now thats a pure bullshit.
If it goes about pr/bd, well, we do realise its a char that kinda lacks HP overall. This also means its better to "survive longer" than "avoid few hits and finally to get owned" with it, this is why heavy is much better set for this char. PR doesnt need atk speed, all a pr/bd needs is maximised patk and the other stats allowing him to stay alive as long as its possible means - heavy again (due to pdef and mdef). Yes accuracy is a pain in the ass, but if ur well buffed and put ogres ( emped or non emped, the difference is just a tiny bit ) your generally done with 1/3 shots, sometimes more on tank subbed chars.
Quote from: iNs on May 02, 2009, 11:56:35 AM
oh now thats a pure bullshit.
If it goes about pr/bd, well, we do realise its a char that kinda lacks HP overall. This also means its better to "survive longer" than "avoid few hits and finally to get owned" with it, this is why heavy is much better set for this char. PR doesnt need atk speed, all a pr/bd needs is maximised patk and the other stats allowing him to stay alive as long as its possible means - heavy again (due to pdef and mdef). Yes accuracy is a pain in the ass, but if ur well buffed and put ogres ( emped or non emped, the difference is just a tiny bit ) your generally done with 1/3 shots, sometimes more on tank subbed chars.
yeah. what he said.
f u can talk to cobrastyle he has that char and loves it, unless he has changed he uses heavy and is very happy with the results. i do believe he tried light for a while too so, yeah.
gl prophecy!
Quote from: Sephiroth on May 02, 2009, 11:22:52 AM
No doubt.
Dyna Light,cos of better A.Speed,so using Dead Eye+Ogres u woudn't hit that slow.Plus Evasion bonus+UE,u should avoid many arrows.
Oh, I see you never used dyna on your pr/bd.
My vote goes to dyna heavy, cause I used both, and now I should quote ins. The best set, which I used was mj light, but dynasty shiet killed idea of light on pr/bd :S
Quote from: Kikolina on May 04, 2009, 09:52:24 AM
so donators playing with light on archers and good ones with heavy is just a coincidence here on infinity?^^
my vote s for heavy ofc :))
This is some fkin lame bullshit myth, lmao. What does it have to do with being a noob or skilled player lol. Fine u can use light on bd/pr but ur hp and con are generally so low that ull get raped much faster than being equipped in heavy + deflect or sumthin. Beside, PR doesnt really need atk speed ( I lol hard at sephi now ), the major atttribute that matters is his patk since u reach 500 crit rate and insane dmg with deadeye, mages are generally 1 or 2 shots (excluding tank subbed ones which we do not have that many anyway), and believe me u can laugh or not, NOT ONLY MAGES (/Loves doing 5k on fighters with he/sws), lol.
Quote from: Kikolina on May 04, 2009, 07:07:33 PM
skilled players ( the one s that usually gets dyn on their own ) are smarter and taking heavy when the donators ( the one s that doesnt know much about game, use money for stuff ) are taking light, for example here on infinity there was a really good archer squad, he wk pr bd he pp sr sws, they killed a lot , all in heavy and then on the other side in some poor clans pr bd s are dropping dyn light helm +6 after being red xD there are several cases like that, i wouldnt count more ^^
anyway any good archer i know, no matter class, says dyn heavy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dyn light :)
I wanna see that archer party vs me and Deathand, just us 2.
Dyna heavy has way better offensive stats than Dyna light when it comes to archers, but there's more than just P atk to a char.
Only stupid people think that way, and I laugh at those archers in Heavy usually, at sieges it's fine, but at smaller PvP's, they look so pathetic :)
PS: Saying "mostly good players wear heavy, and donators wearing light" is rather making you look kinda dumb lol
Quote from: Furesy on May 04, 2009, 07:29:33 PM
I wanna see that archer party vs me and Deathand, just us 2.
I wanna see you and Deathand vs me on selfbuffs.
Quote from: WindPhoenix on May 04, 2009, 07:33:33 PM
I wanna see you and Deathand vs me on selfbuffs.
On what char? x)
Quote from: Kikolina on May 04, 2009, 08:02:46 PM
its funny to see how big ego ppl got when it comes to compete with other server :D
anyway u get known by ur strenght in larger pvps imo, but what is ur point, there is mb 1-2 smaller pvp per week (at least for me :) ).. are u wearing 2 dyns in ur invenotry or what? :D
I'm wearring 3 diff sets in my inv tbh, but ye, set depends on the opponent and on the moment.
There's a PR/WL on NM, best augments possible for archer, always full P atk setup, everything max, crits most people for 6k+, but fails to kill me in 1on1, and I use light, I'm PR/WL also.
Saying 1 set is better than the other just limits your gameplay, and makes you an even easier target, be smart and use different tactics.
Quote from: Furesy on May 04, 2009, 08:16:58 PM
I'm wearring 3 diff sets in my inv tbh, but ye, set depends on the opponent and on the moment.
There's a PR/WL on NM, best augments possible for archer, always full P atk setup, everything max, crits most people for 6k+, but fails to kill me in 1on1, and I use light, I'm PR/WL also.
Saying 1 set is better than the other just limits your gameplay, and makes you an even easier target, be smart and use different tactics.
Do u mean ZeritaPL? Cos he's the only PR/WL I know apart from u.
Quote from: Sephiroth on May 04, 2009, 08:20:55 PM
Do u mean ZeritaPL? Cos he's the only PR/WL I know apart from u.
Ye
Quote from: Furesy on May 04, 2009, 07:29:33 PM
I wanna see that archer party vs me and Deathand, just us 2.
Dyna heavy has way better offensive stats than Dyna light when it comes to archers, but there's more than just P atk to a char.
Only stupid people think that way, and I laugh at those archers in Heavy usually, at sieges it's fine, but at smaller PvP's, they look so pathetic :)
PS: Saying "mostly good players wear heavy, and donators wearing light" is rather making you look kinda dumb lol
Quote from: Kikolina on May 04, 2009, 08:02:46 PM
its funny to see how big ego ppl got when it comes to compete with other server :D
anyway u get known by ur strenght in larger pvps imo, but what is ur point, there is mb 1-2 smaller pvp per week (at least for me :) ).. are u wearing 2 dyns in ur invenotry or what? :D
I dont like this but .... this is the moment i have to say that Furesy is right. Big lol at kiko.
Quote from: Kikolina on May 04, 2009, 08:02:46 PM
its funny to see how big ego ppl got when it comes to compete with other server :D
anyway u get known by ur strenght in larger pvps imo, but what is ur point, there is mb 1-2 smaller pvp per week (at least for me :) ).. are u wearing 2 dyns in ur invenotry or what? :D
i do, any problems? xD
Quote from: Kikolina on May 04, 2009, 08:02:46 PM
its funny to see how big ego ppl got when it comes to compete with other server :D
anyway u get known by ur strenght in larger pvps imo, but what is ur point, there is mb 1-2 smaller pvp per week (at least for me :) ).. are u wearing 2 dyns in ur invenotry or what? :D
but if some1 cant afford 2 sets he must chose one of them wich fits to his playstyle more :)
Quote from: Sali on May 04, 2009, 10:35:55 PM
i do, any problems? xDbut if some1 cant afford 2 sets he must chose one of them wich fits to his playstyle more :)
You rich nigga XD
Quote from: Kikolina on May 05, 2009, 09:03:19 AM
but thats how it is on infi xDDD anyway imo it was more ment as a joke ^^
and.. not every1 can afford to carry 2 dyn sets in their inventory.. so.. go for heavy ^^ or u re gonna as a donator xDD :D
so in ur opinion th/wl should use heavy bcos he have some passive for it? :P
Quote from: Sali on May 05, 2009, 12:25:48 PM
so in ur opinion th/wl should use heavy bcos he have some passive for it? :P
in your case it doesn't matter since you suck anyway :>
I remind topic is about bd/pr not wl/pr :p
Quote from: cofo on May 05, 2009, 12:35:22 PM
I remind topic is about bd/pr not wl/pr :p
Quote from: Sali on May 05, 2009, 12:25:48 PM
so in ur opinion th/wl should use heavy bcos he have some passive for it? :P
Damn Saali alway's have to change the subject!
Quote from: Kikolina on May 05, 2009, 09:03:19 AM
but thats how it is on infi xDDD anyway imo it was more ment as a joke ^^
and.. not every1 can afford to carry 2 dyn sets in their inventory.. so.. go for heavy ^^ or u re gonna as a donator xDD :D
seems like infinity is more freaked up then I have ever imagined.
heavy.
heavy.
heavy.
Hevy Heavy Heavy Heavy
(and for th/wl heavy when fighting fighters on 1v1. If just running around to pvp, light)
Quote from: FeelmyBow on May 05, 2009, 12:37:12 PM
Damn Saali alway's have to change the subject!
its still about sets so its not so big offtopic :P
Quote from: FeelmyBow on May 05, 2009, 12:34:37 PM
in your case it doesn't matter since you suck anyway :>
gime some time to practice, after that u will not take my cp down :)
Quote from: AmayZang on May 05, 2009, 06:05:13 PM
(and for th/wl heavy when fighting fighters on 1v1. If just running around to pvp, light)
lol never.
On dragon +3 evasion from light don't work, this make Heavy little better on stat side.
But on game side : light is better because most archers are in heavy :)
i use light :)
You have +10 evasion from wearing light (any kind) anyway.