Hi everyone !
Basically i'm wondering about few questions:
According to official website :*You must subclass twice before subclassing Kamael Inspector
So the question is:since we have stackable subclasses,how is that possible to make Bers/inspector,soul breaker/inspector,Arbalester/inspector.Do we have to unlock it by subclass twice before subclassing Kamael Inspector and then make DNsub?
If anybody have done it,please share your information/impression
Also any info about skills / what weapon requirements for skills / duration / reuse time will be greatly appriciated.
Lets DISCUSSION STATS
P.S. Sry for my bad english ::)
From what i've heard it's not even possible to subclass kamaels yet.
but if it will be possible some time in the distant future in theory it should work like you said. i guess you want to have an inspector/xx dn sub? that would mean you need to get 2 retails to become inspector and then get a horn for that class. but i guess the result will be somewhat mutant-like. it remains to be seen
i think you have to do 2 retail subs and then you are able to be an inspector!(be f.e. arbalester>retail to berseker>retail to soulbreaker>become inspector)
but,i heard 3rd class questsfor kamaels or for some classes of kamales are bugged+dunno if the retail quest for kamaels is bugged too
:-\ :-[ :(
If DN subclasses for kamaels are enabled I think it will be possible to sub your main class with Inspector right away, since DN subclass system allows you to choose any proffession of your race. I hope I'm not wrong in here, because there is kinda no point in making arbalester/berserker for instance, every kamael skill requires a specific weapon, so it's gonna be like 2 characters in one with only a few new useful skills. Switching between weapons all the time sucks.
And yes, you can make both 3rd classes and retail quest on kamael.
Quote from: Sarcasm on June 18, 2009, 04:10:30 PM
If anyone is still interested - you CAN finish 3rd job quest with any kamael class. The quest monster on the last vision tablet has kinda wrong stats, it has very low P.def and low HP, so usually people kill him too fast. But in fact, you must not finish him, just damage a bit and wait until it disappears. Then talk to the NPC who appeared and fought the quest mob and he will give you the last Resonance Amulet.
The main problem is in the Quest Monster.
Also, none of the 3rd job skills working correctly, expect for passives like Wisdom etc.
Anyway, I am finishing retail today on my kamael and I'm gonna check if it's possible not to lvl 2 subs before taking Inspector, and get him immediately as first retail subclass. Gonna post the result in a few hours.
Quote from: Sarcasm on June 23, 2009, 04:52:33 PM
If DN subclasses for kamaels are enabled I think it will be possible to sub your main class with Inspector right away, since DN subclass system allows you to choose any proffession of your race. I hope I'm not wrong in here, because there is kinda no point in making arbalester/berserker for instance, every kamael skill requires a specific weapon, so it's gonna be like 2 characters in one with only a few new useful skills. Switching between weapons all the time sucks.
And yes, you can make both 3rd classes and retail quest on kamael.
Anyway, I am finishing retail today on my kamael and I'm gonna check if it's possible not to lvl 2 subs before taking Inspector, and get him immediately as first retail subclass. Gonna post the result in a few hours.
We are waiting for You :-)
Quote from: Morbid_Angel on June 23, 2009, 04:00:23 PM
i think you have to do 2 retail subs and then you are able to be an inspector!(be f.e. arbalester>retail to berseker>retail to soulbreaker>become inspector)
This gonna be sucks if it will works like that,coz it will have same mechanics as a making mutants.and as u know mutants stock at lvl 80.Anyways.....is top lvl for inspector lvl 80?...since it is suppose to be your 3rd retail
Quote from: Morbid_Angel on June 23, 2009, 04:00:23 PM
but,i heard 3rd class questsfor kamaels or for some classes of kamales are bugged+dunno if the retail quest for kamaels is bugged too
:-\ :-[ :(
Hell yeah...all kind of bullsh1t happens to me,during just 4-5 days of life cycle of my bers :'(
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,193587.0.html
You cannot sub inspector right away. It's not a custom thing, it's a retail thing. You can only have it as you're third sub, unless it's your main. I also don't think i'd wana make my kamael a dn sub. Would limit me to lvl80 :\
Quote from: LinK187 on June 23, 2009, 07:06:45 PM
You cannot sub inspector right away. It's not a custom thing, it's a retail thing. You can only have it as you're third sub, unless it's your main. I also don't think i'd wana make my kamael a dn sub. Would limit me to lvl80 :\
well if we will be not able to DNsub to Inspector right away....then im screwed lol...coz i want to be Bers/Insp.....and i start with Bers.....
About limit lvl.....can't we power lvl main char lvl 85+learn all skills and then make DN sub?Hope u see my point
Quote from: HeroCraft on June 24, 2009, 12:16:11 AM
well if we will be not able to DNsub to Inspector right away....then im screwed lol...coz i want to be Bers/Insp.....and i start with Bers.....
About limit lvl.....can't we power lvl main char lvl 85+learn all skills and then make DN sub?Hope u see my point
Possibly. However you should be able to make a dn sub with any of your subs regardless if it's your first second or third... and if you can't, just make inspector as you main.
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,189330.0.html
What can i add....we are screwed :'(
Good news, everyone!
The good thing that kamaels can finish retail subclass quest without problems, it's pretty easy but time consuming.
And about topic subject. Unfortunately, you can't sub Inspector right away, after I tried clicking 'Inspector' in 'Add Subclass' menu and nothing happened. I am not sure if it's supposed to be in the list right away, but it doesn't work. I guess we have to level 2 retails first.
By the way, I took Soul Breaker as first sub. My char is male, and guess what? I got female soul breaker haha. Even the stats, less STR, more DEX. Kamaels are bugged badly, too bad. About all the bugs - there is a thread in Nightmare General Section on the forums about skills, heres the link http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,192287.0.html (http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,192287.0.html) . Already reported most of the Berserker bugs, let us hope they all get fixed one day.
Inspector is not supposed to be selectible till your third sub. See lineage2.com lol
Obviously I know that it's not supposed to be selectable, but it is in the list of subclasses. It should appear in the list when your 2nd sub reaches 75 level. Since our servers have many custom features, I thought it's possible to choose it right away. Well, it's not different from retail then.
Quote from: Sarcasm on June 24, 2009, 12:17:00 PM
Good news, everyone!
The good thing that kamaels can finish retail subclass quest without problems, it's pretty easy but time consuming.
And about topic subject. Unfortunately, you can't sub Inspector right away, after I tried clicking 'Inspector' in 'Add Subclass' menu and nothing happened. I am not sure if it's supposed to be in the list right away, but it doesn't work. I guess we have to level 2 retails first.
By the way, I took Soul Breaker as first sub. My char is male, and guess what? I got female soul breaker haha. Even the stats, less STR, more DEX. Kamaels are bugged badly, too bad. About all the bugs - there is a thread in Nightmare General Section on the forums about skills, heres the link http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,192287.0.html (http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,192287.0.html) . Already reported most of the Berserker bugs, let us hope they all get fixed one day.
Thx for information , but i think Kamaels nowdays do not worth trying to work your ass hard to LvL up 2 retails...call me whatever you want,but i almost gave up on that+i just might stick to Berserker w/o any DN subclass :P
Quote from: HeroCraft on June 24, 2009, 06:24:36 PM
Thx for information , but i think Kamaels nowdays do not worth trying to work your ass hard to LvL up 2 retails...call me whatever you want,but i almost gave up on that+i just might stick to Berserker w/o any DN subclass :P
I play on Nightmare, so leveling isn't really a problem here. Inspectors buffs are unique, they stacks with any other buffs and add pretty nice ammount, so I might just use it as a bot for my old character anyway.
Oh and Berserker is ridiculously weak in PvP at the moment so there is really kinda no point of playing a kamael. By the way, do you have Rush Impact yet? Supposed to be the most useful Zerker's skill, but I couldn't get the battle manual yet.
Quote from: Sarcasm on June 24, 2009, 06:33:42 PM
I play on Nightmare, so leveling isn't really a problem here. Inspectors buffs are unique, they stacks with any other buffs and add pretty nice ammount, so I might just use it as a bot for my old character anyway.
Oh and Berserker is ridiculously weak in PvP at the moment so there is really kinda no point of playing a kamael. By the way, do you have Rush Impact yet? Supposed to be the most useful Zerker's skill, but I couldn't get the battle manual yet.
I power lvl my Bers till lvl 77 for 3-4 days and after that i decide to take it easy,coz as u said they are pretty weak in all aspects.Plus i really hate animation of all "rush and Charge" skills.Coz its animated like im faking drunk and i hit the bump and im falling down......legs towrds the enemy....wtf ???.Plus i heard that its impossible to make DN sub for Kamaels nowdays....and it seems like im screwed....coz i was going to make Berserker/inspector...and i start with Bers...So can i still make Bers/insp,if i will make 1st retail soul breaker,2nd arbalester and 3rd Inspector.And after i unlock Inspector Dn sub my bers to insp.Or i HAVE to start with any other class exept Bers as the main char.
Sry for my english,but its the best how can i express my question.Hope u see my point.
P.S. most of Berserker skill don't do any dmg....like Wing Spread,and Countagion
u cant make retail inspector on arena tested .... dunno other servers ....
Quote from: Kristian on June 25, 2009, 05:54:25 AM
u cant make retail inspector on arena tested .... dunno other servers ....
"GOOD NEWS" keep comming to Kamael section,huh? ??? >:(
Beserkers might be weak, but I've been kicking ass with my arbalester and I'm still just 75.