I'm interested what do you think about this question. I'm not suggest anything.
Imo, yes and I think it would refresh the server.
(p.s.: btw, i have pretty good chars&gears on the server ;) .)
The only reason that DN is still here and good populated network is just bcoz it never got WIPED.
It don't need WIPE but a little change to refresh the economy and stuff.
But yet again l2 is an old game which can't serve you nothing new to entertain :)
Im for yes.
ofc not. too much shits happened since 1 year (dnet set, icarus, nerf spoil, donate more) the most of ppl won't start to play on this donator only server.
Quote from: Anemonia on July 03, 2009, 08:55:49 AM
The only reason that DN is still here and good populated network is just bcoz it never got WIPED.
It don't need WIPE but a little change to refresh the economy and stuff.
But yet again l2 is an old game which can't serve you nothing new to entertain :)
lol who are u and what have u done to ane????
i never thought i'd say this but i think that's the only good thing that might happen on DN, a full wipe and a fresh start, no small change will erase all the exploits, months and years of botting and non-deserved items/chars, etc. So WIPEEEEEEEEEE!!!
Quote from: Anemonia on July 03, 2009, 08:55:49 AM
The only reason that DN is still here and good populated network is just bcoz it never got WIPED.
It don't need WIPE but a little change to refresh the economy and stuff.
But yet again l2 is an old game which can't serve you nothing new to entertain :)
+1
I'm not a donator but i have a lil' good equips with hard work, a lot business & with a lucky things like enchant. I don't wanna wipe, cuz i lost everything which i make for myself in 3-4 years.
But i think we need economy refresh a lil. BTW keep up the bug fixing work and servers will survive. Wait some month and prices stay in a state. HB mixing a lot things so be patient for future.
Quote from: Anemonia on July 03, 2009, 08:55:49 AM
The only reason that DN is still here and good populated network is just bcoz it never got WIPED.
It don't need WIPE but a little change to refresh the economy and stuff.
agree
A new c3/c4 server with 1 dn sub without mutants and S grade would be fine for me :)
I don't really think that DN can survive wipe. As we all know, Drake loves his money more then anything and this is also reflected on what happen on DN lately (DN sets, etc.).
In my humble opinion, Drake cannot simply wipe all the coins and items that were directly made for donators or bought by donators. He would stole their money in a certain way. Yes, there is a solution, but it is rough solution: Wipe server and let those, who wants to keep their characters/accounts pay some money for it. In this scenario, I guess some non-donating players would for sure leave, and some would try to achieve everything again, but there is another problem.
If the server settings including spoil rates etc. would remain as it is now, even more players would give up and leave. So basicly, there are 2 options:
- keep server settings and wipe it. That would make DN literally Donator Network.
- refresh, reset server settings as it was and wipe it. Things would be easier to achieve, but that step would bring less money for Drake.
i think that at this moment if u not donate...u'll be no1 on DN...(like me :P)...and if drake will do a wipe i think that all donators will leave..players leave or maybe new guys come..but drake will have little amount of money and maybe close server..who know..:(
Or just reduce the dragons lolypops, remove his GMs and merge all 3 servers and upgrade the servers hardware. 3k-4k server would pwn :P
But this will never happen ::)
Wipe wouldnt be neccecary if he could make a new server for us to play on :)
maybe a 7x~ rate or something, im sure it would have a lot of interest from both nigthmare and infinity.
Im not bored of the game, but bored of the over aged server :}
Quote from: Grenix on July 03, 2009, 03:53:11 PM
Wipe wouldnt be neccecary if he could make a new server for us to play on :)
maybe a 7x~ rate or something, im sure it would have a lot of interest from both nigthmare and infinity.
Im not bored of the game, but bored of the over aged server :}
+1
Quote from: Grenix on July 03, 2009, 03:53:11 PM
Wipe wouldnt be neccecary if he could make a new server for us to play on :)
maybe a 7x~ rate or something, im sure it would have a lot of interest from both nigthmare and infinity.
Im not bored of the game, but bored of the over aged server :}
A new server would just leach some people from all 3 servers and would end up having less than 500 players. Sucks imo
Noob insight - i play on DN just with one friend, we are not in clan, we worked hard for every piece of equipment and we are finaly in A grade - Wipe is totally freaked up idea for us, because when you are not organized in huge clan, you can just wait and wait till somebody other make you a way to earn equip (after wipe) so from unorganized players viewpoint its really baaad idea :) also - DN s plus is also that it was never wiped, yes, wipe can bring few fresh people, but how many of DN players will leave? And also timing - wipe before HB will be understandable, wiping just for fun is not
About the donation thing, by definition u shouldn't get anything in exchange. Whoever donated had fun with the items/chars they donated for. (me included btw) Most of my gear is the result of spoiling/crafting and my chars are leveled by myself. I loved playing them but i'd start over on a wiped server with a set of harsh rules like they were in dragon3d times. I'd be happy to start playing again w/o walker bots, so many exploits, so many coins, etc etc. So wipe and reset and ppl will stay. :)
Quote from: Kaylaar on July 03, 2009, 04:13:00 PM
About the donation thing, by definition u shouldn't get anything in exchange. Whoever donated had fun with the items/chars they donated for. (me included btw) Most of my gear is the result of spoiling/crafting and my chars are leveled by myself. I loved playing them but i'd start over on a wiped server with a set of harsh rules like they were in dragon3d times. I'd be happy to start playing again w/o walker bots, so many exploits, so many coins, etc etc. So wipe and reset and ppl will stay. :)
you mean you will stay. imho a wipe would kill DN =)
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on July 03, 2009, 03:51:09 PM
Or just reduce the dragons lolypops, remove his GMs and merge all 3 servers and upgrade the servers hardware. 3k-4k server would pwn :P
But this will never happen ::)
merge NM and Dragon, that would be interesting ::) finally we would have 2 sides on serv ;)
refresh server? it's possible to make new server with rate between 10-20, and many people will be playing there
Lineage 2 is a dead game, wiping the server(s) would only make DN's fate come sooner.
Quote from: zthrx on July 03, 2009, 04:55:46 PM
merge NM and Dragon, that would be interesting ::) finally we would have 2 sides on serv ;)
2 sides ?
You wont resist the Dragon's Lolipops and the GMs who play normal chars and have own clans even 1 day.
Said by other words Dragon's Corrupted play style will finish you within few days max.
Dragon players are used to sh1tz since we got them since at least 2-3 years with the only change that they're getting worst and WE play with it...i doubt that anything can impress a Dragon player but you NM "pros" will have really hard times on our playground.
I would like to see you crying as well but sadly this idea wont happen.
Additional to that you wont get the taste of hardcore dragon pvps since the most of good clans which had best pvp machines of dragon left already.
P.S. Let me make a prophecy - Soon NM will Merge with Infinity since - Dragon > NM+Infinity (actually 3x NM+infinity when its up to donations)... so i suggest you to get known with Infinity Players which will be your new neighbors.
EDIT : New idea - Open New server with merged databases of Dragon and Nightmare ^^
merge all server please xD would be fun, finally i'd get to kill furesy, my last wish before DN ends
Quote from: Mooondust on July 03, 2009, 06:31:12 PM
frintezza.com fu dnet ;D ;D
maybe, but if you look around you find better L2 networks than frintezza.
Quote from: wildpussy on July 03, 2009, 06:17:33 PM
merge all server please xD would be fun, finally i'd get to kill furesy, my last wish before DN ends
I can give you a char on Nightmare if you want, to fullfill your wish :p
Quote from: Mooondust on July 03, 2009, 09:20:47 PM
yes maybe but it is stuck able? or like retail
like retail I mean
Quote from: Kaylaar on July 03, 2009, 04:13:00 PM
About the donation thing, by definition u shouldn't get anything in exchange. Whoever donated had fun with the items/chars they donated for. (me included btw) Most of my gear is the result of spoiling/crafting and my chars are leveled by myself. I loved playing them but i'd start over on a wiped server with a set of harsh rules like they were in dragon3d times. I'd be happy to start playing again w/o walker bots, so many exploits, so many coins, etc etc. So wipe and reset and ppl will stay. :)
wrong.
donators will leave because they will feel like they were robbed of money they spent.
non-donators will leave because they will feel like they were robbed of the time they spent.
I for sure would leave. not jus DN, I'd quit L2 altogether. Just wipe out all these years of hard work? Just as I'm finally starting to get somewhere? Finally starting to think I might have half a chance of subbing a char? I would never have the heart to try to start over. I probably wouldn't try ANY online game again. Why try?, if in one moment they can decide to take away all that effort.
I agree that a solution like wiping only the illegit weapons, armors or chars done by exploits and botting, applying rules and making them harsh enough would be a better choice. But since that never happens.... :-\
wipe out, all dn armors, all icarus, dynasty weapons, and all boss jewels :D
But ofc it won't happen.
NO!!! I have worked over 8 years to get all my stuff and if i lost my girls or they had to go nakie again it would be like loosing members of my family ,, or falling into a depression ::)
Quote from: Shadowholder on July 04, 2009, 04:27:46 PM
NO!!! I have worked over 8 years to get all my stuff and if i lost my girls or they had to go nakie again it would be like loosing members of my family ,, or falling into a depression ::)
L2 isn't 8 years old xd
Quote from: Furesy on July 04, 2009, 06:35:38 PM
L2 isn't 8 years old xd
http://www.gamershell.com/news_13559.html
^^
Quote from: Anemonia on July 04, 2009, 11:09:00 PM
http://www.gamershell.com/news_13559.html
^^
5years and....some days ;D
Quote from: Furesy on July 04, 2009, 06:35:38 PM
L2 isn't 8 years old xd
its got to be getting close to it,, iv been in the USA 4 years I lived at Angus for a year and I was playing it in my house before that for ages, Iv been playing since under wear was common blue wolf was the best,, and thing including people use to fall throught the map ,,
DRake how long is that??
ok, so Ane's link says the official NORTH AMERICAN LAUNCH was 5 years ago, when was European launch?
and when did Drake start DN?
Quote from: ChillyWilly on July 05, 2009, 09:13:26 PM
ok, so Ane's link says the official NORTH AMERICAN LAUNCH was 5 years ago, when was European launch?
and when did Drake start DN?
beginning of 2003, or something like that...
Quote from: ChillyWilly on July 05, 2009, 09:13:26 PM
ok, so Ane's link says the official NORTH AMERICAN LAUNCH was 5 years ago, when was European launch?
and when did Drake start DN?
I remeber the change to USA server.. we was worried we would loose dragon totally,, we played Cusu (spelt wrong) and when they changed to USA server they disaperared into cyber space....
I think that more ppls would come back if dragon would move back to c3/c4 ^^
Quote from: wojtekpol on July 07, 2009, 10:54:25 AM
I think that more ppls would come back if dragon would move back to c3/c4 ^^
If DN will be FULL HB without manor,minor bugs, with all features from Kamael, HB i think a lot new ppl would come. No need old times, need only continuous fixing and balancing. That's my opinion. ;)
Quote from: SyD on July 07, 2009, 11:01:35 AM
If DN will be FULL HB without manor,minor bugs, with all features from Kamael, HB i think a lot new ppl would come. No need old times, need only continuous fixing and balancing. That's my opinion. ;)
HAHAHAA balance with icarus "ak47" bows, and dnet shits? LOOOL
Quote from: disc on July 07, 2009, 11:48:08 AM
HAHAHAA balance with icarus "ak47" bows, and dnet shits? LOOOL
If makin' Icarus with SLOW speed like in official will be more balanced. But need to set up resists too, magic and bow resists too.
Dnet armors not problem i think, if all whole big clans have Dnet armors fights balanced.
We makin' nice pvps with these "sh1ts" too, so these not a big problems. ;)