The almighty Mana shit is back again after we all thought we got rid of it , I joined oly with TH/PP 2 days ago and I got mana leached in few secs exactly as as same as befor but by mana whores , I was looking for some fresh data to prove my point till I got this screen from NiToPaMi that shows almost 3k mana leached by 2 Hits , even tho they are critical Hits mana burn in need for nerf and I won't say more nerf coz already the pervious nerf truned to be abug and it got fixed as updates section in loader shows .
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ManaBurn should work correctly now ....
i just wanna ask why 1st mana burn is lower than second one. pow was over or what ?
Quote from: lucifsg on September 04, 2009, 12:45:07 PM
i just wanna ask why 1st mana burn is lower than second one. pow was over or what ?
Maybe because last but one line: "Item skill: Magic barrier has worn off." :P
Quote from: lucifsg on September 04, 2009, 12:45:07 PM
i just wanna ask why 1st mana burn is lower than second one. pow was over or what ?
nah, its weird shit, i mburn him twice in very little time, 2 mcrits, same buffs, 1 being lower than the first one... i can't know why,
prolly ashlynn is right.... but me and agil noticed mburn seems not to rely on mdef anymore, or if it does it relies much less on mdef than before.
Oh and to topic, 1279 mana burned on mcrit.... on a mage.... and you seriously call that Overpowered mana burn? fine, nerf it, and mage's point in pvp which is mainly mana burning bishops then?
Quote from: our4n0s on September 04, 2009, 02:06:22 PM
nah, its weird shit, i mburn him twice in very little time, 2 mcrits, same buffs, 1 being lower than the first one... i can't know why,
prolly ashlynn is right.... but me and agil noticed mburn seems not to rely on mdef anymore, or if it does it relies much less on mdef than before.
Oh and to topic, 1279 mana burned on mcrit.... on a mage.... and you seriously call that Overpowered mana burn? fine, nerf it, and mage's point in pvp which is mainly mana burning bishops then?
normal nukes damge can be reduced by shield
maybe shield effects mana burn too now?
dont forget all sps / ee in oly has no m def buff , so these numbers u normal when it comes to a crit
just remove m.crits from mana burn and ll be good imo
Just Nerf Mana burn at all... lol!!
Quote from: Takashii on September 04, 2009, 05:46:23 PM
just remove m.crits from mana burn and ll be good imo
they tryed, they cannot, removing mcrit by mburn is removing mcrit at all
Quote from: Diabolical on September 04, 2009, 05:25:42 PM
dont forget all sps / ee in oly has no m def buff , so these numbers u normal when it comes to a crit
well partly you are right but even on self buffs nitopami's m.def ain't low at all coz of his gears and agumentation and pow ,and Lay m.atk ain't that high coz he is on self too so it's not an excuse for that 3k mana leached by 2 hits , m.criticals should be totaly removed from mana burn or exterimly decreased coz it's exactly the same matter of lethal in both cases you will die out of mana = out of hp and as I touched from playing in oly that arcana aguility effect on mana burn makes it greatly almighty and leaches the oponent mana in few secs no matter what class it is so I think mana burn should be nerfed in aproper way without killing this skill for example removing m.critical possibility from it / abit more reuse or mana consumption while it's used with arcana aguility / land rate .
ofc that would be due mathematic calculations not just our opinions
Quote from: our4n0s on September 04, 2009, 02:06:22 PM
nah, its weird shit, i mburn him twice in very little time, 2 mcrits, same buffs, 1 being lower than the first one... i can't know why,
prolly ashlynn is right.... but me and agil noticed mburn seems not to rely on mdef anymore, or if it does it relies much less on mdef than before.
Oh and to topic, 1279 mana burned on mcrit.... on a mage.... and you seriously call that Overpowered mana burn? fine, nerf it, and mage's point in pvp which is mainly mana burning bishops then?
again some weak excuse to defend ur almighy skill so you can keep farm oly and make money and calling us loosers ?! :D for god sake on what server you playing that only way to kill abishop is to burn his mana .. give us abreak of ur flooding ignorance and retardness and stop acting like afool open ur damn eyes and look to the screen and stfu
Quote from: our4n0s on September 04, 2009, 06:19:39 PM
they tryed, they cannot, removing mcrit by mburn is removing mcrit at all
again you made me lol hard this time funny to even mention inability of game coders to fix some thing about it ...just n/c
Quote from: SysTemHacK on September 04, 2009, 07:09:51 PM
again some weak excuse to defend ur almighy skill so you can keep farm oly and make money and calling us loosers ?! :D for god sake on what server you playing that only way to kill abishop is to burn his mana .. give us abreak of ur flooding ignorance and retardness and stop acting like afool open ur damn eyes and look to the screen and stfu
bullshit, in case you didn't notice i made over 1 k pts last month and that was w/o mana burn, i actually use it vs some sps/ee, but delete it its np i ll spam augment instead and it is NO freakING DIF the win stays mine so SHUT THE freak UP when it comes to comenting what would happen to my char w/o mana burn you re just a joke.
Ah and not my fault if you don't freaking know how to play, bp/tanks as me or funkeh will never get killed we actually don't even get freaking targeted so one more time just stfu, mages' mana burn are the worst that can happen to us.
Quote from: SysTemHacK on September 04, 2009, 07:09:51 PM
again you made me lol hard this time funny to even mention inability of game coders to fix some thing about it ...just n/c
these are demonsfall's words kktybb.
i once got a 2781 mana burn crit, :< all my mp gone in 1 skill xD
Quote from: SysTemHacK on September 04, 2009, 06:58:04 PM
well partly you are right but even on self buffs nitopami's m.def ain't low at all coz of his gears and agumentation and pow ,and Lay m.atk ain't that high coz he is on self too so it's not an excuse for that 3k mana leached by 2 hits , m.criticals should be totaly removed from mana burn or exterimly decreased coz it's exactly the same matter of lethal in both cases you will die out of mana = out of hp and as I touched from playing in oly that arcana aguility effect on mana burn makes it greatly almighty and leaches the oponent mana in few secs no matter what class it is so I think mana burn should be nerfed in aproper way without killing this skill for example removing m.critical possibility from it / abit more reuse or mana consumption while it's used with arcana aguility / land rate .
ofc that would be due mathematic calculations not just our opinions
sps/ee has low mdef in oly
es/ee have good matk in oly, emp+zerk+pow, you really can't go much higher outside
why u cry all ? this server was shit and will be shit always sps/ee in oly (who dont have self skils to mage damage/hit )win by augument 20/21 lol2 make fuk off augument on oly and all will work okay
Quote from: qwertyzxc on September 04, 2009, 09:40:55 PM
why u cry all ? this server was shit and will be shit always sps/ee in oly (who dont have self skils to mage damage/hit )win by augument 20/21 lol2 make fuk off augument on oly and all will work okay
so why re u playing here if NM is sux?? change server if u dont like it rotfl
Muhahaha tardopami crying cuz he cant kill everyone in two hits at oly ;D
Quote from: wildpussy on September 04, 2009, 09:03:20 PM
sps/ee has low mdef in oly
es/ee have good matk in oly, emp+zerk+pow, you really can't go much higher outside
wanted to say the same , and no sps / ee doesnt have great mdef inside oly , plus if ppl r concerned about 1.2 mana burn crit , how about some sps / ee critting me for 4k ? and thats almost all my hp inside oly :D , they got m atack and crits and heal inside oly and thay lack mdef , so they deal with it plus nitopami got mana h burn imself
Quote from: Diabolical on September 05, 2009, 03:00:20 AM
wanted to say the same , and no sps / ee doesnt have great mdef inside oly , plus if ppl r concerned about 1.2 mana burn crit , how about some sps / ee critting me for 4k ? and thats almost all my hp inside oly :D , they got m atack and crits and heal inside oly and thay lack mdef , so they deal with it plus nitopami got mana h burn imself
this topic ain't about sps/ee in oly I just want aconsideration from track for that 3k mana burn with 2 hits even if it was on no buffs not self and when I say mana burns should be treated as lethals why u didn't comment on that all of you cryed about lethals ages and mana burn is even more dangerous coz lethal rate never been like m.critical rate and in both cases you will die no hp= no mana
Quote from: our4n0s on September 04, 2009, 07:18:10 PM
bullshit, in case you didn't notice i made over 1 k pts last month and that was w/o mana burn, i actually use it vs some sps/ee, but delete it its np i ll spam augment instead and it is NO freakING DIF the win stays mine so SHUT THE freak UP when it comes to comenting what would happen to my char w/o mana burn you re just a joke.
Ah and not my fault if you don't freaking know how to play, bp/tanks as me or funkeh will never get killed we actually don't even get freaking targeted so one more time just stfu, mages' mana burn are the worst that can happen to us.
these are demonsfall's words kktybb.
I didn't talk about your mana burn agumentation I talked about the skill that buffers/heals got it and you coz u r buffer/summoer get extra advantage of in reuse time which makes from it purely over powered shit + it's high damage and m.critical propability and almopst every one agree with me in that point and lol you act like afool again and telling that you don't use mana burn and u made 1k points without it .... lol I don't know why I keep giving attention to ur bullshits and replay it !
and again we came to me mi pro u all suck part ,hell ye I don't know how to play with th/pp and what would agood player do to save his mana ?!
wear mana regeneration tattoos I already did that+ talisman !! and I didn't use any toggels and I didn't make any wasted blows like back stap in the face and guess what same results out of mana for 3 matches in arow in few secs so please stop tell that shitty excuse that we don't know how to play thats why u win and it's funny to hea that from Mr.3 skills heal / mana burn / stone agumentation . keep acting like afool but it won't prove ur point and about demonsfall words I dont give afreak if he couldn't do afix to agame then he is shitty coder/gm not that it's not possible .. for god sake it's not natural feature I asked to be changed so you tell me thats not possible lol
Quote from: cofo on September 05, 2009, 12:49:10 AM
Muhahaha tardopami crying cuz he cant kill everyone in two hits at oly ;D
tardo forums ain't the right place to drop ur shits , look for aproper place to do so which the creatures of ur kind belongs
tell facts provided with data or stfu
Quote from: FeelmyBow on September 04, 2009, 08:57:29 PM
i once got a 2781 mana burn crit, :< all my mp gone in 1 skill xD
next time thats happeneds to you make sure to take ascreen and post it here so we get rid of OP lamers
Quote from: cofo on September 05, 2009, 12:49:10 AM
Muhahaha tardopami crying cuz he cant kill everyone in two hits at oly ;D
mrsulokazimira . let me ask u few question.
how many people u can kill outside from olympiad with u bots chars ?
u know only to spam f1-mana burn ,u know only to transfer points in olympiad.
that make u happy kinda imo .look some time game outside from olympiad
its a hard spam all time mana burn and kill some1 w/o mana?
tardokazimira
Quote from: NiToPaMi on September 05, 2009, 06:13:52 AM
mrsulokazimira . let me ask u few question.
how many people u can kill outside from olympiad with u bots chars ?
u know only to spam f1-mana burn ,u know only to transfer points in olympiad.
that make u happy kinda imo .look some time game outside from olympiad
its a hard spam all time mana burn and kill some1 w/o mana?
tardokazimira
those aint "few questions" u tard.
Quote from: NiToPaMi on September 05, 2009, 06:13:52 AM
mrsulokazimira . let me ask u few question.
how many people u can kill outside from olympiad with u bots chars ?
u know only to spam f1-mana burn ,u know only to transfer points in olympiad.
that make u happy kinda imo .look some time game outside from olympiad
its a hard spam all time mana burn and kill some1 w/o mana?
tardokazimira
spash is playing outside oly... saw him yesterday and he was in my pt few times in varka and guess what he is doing well...
but u nito... u are lucky u have that augment and u stay 14 sec max alive w/o it u are 1-2 shoots
Quote from: Ungolianth on September 05, 2009, 12:30:26 PM
fact is that he got it so QQs "u lucky u got that augument" are funny...i wanna see u against tony 1vs1 to see who powns who cuz i bet tony can pown u
ofc he can :< he doesn't even flag lol.. and ask him last time in loa what happened when we were 1 vs 1 and i didn't even had buffs :< i restored cp faster that he hited lol...
go creat another topic and call it " who is the Pwner " and spam/flame/asslick as you want there but please leave that topic clean of spam
this topic is made for discussing mana burn issue .. talk about it or stfu
Quote from: Ungolianth on September 05, 2009, 01:03:18 PM
i can definetly tell who is not powner and guess who is winner? u :P and to talk about issue y mana burn nice skill xD since u cant kill nobody with mana or w/o it i dont see reason why u reply here :-*
my sig wins
Quote from: SysTemHacK on September 05, 2009, 04:49:16 AM
this topic ain't about sps/ee in oly I just want aconsideration from track for that 3k mana burn with 2 hits even if it was on no buffs not self and when I say mana burns should be treated as lethals why u didn't comment on that all of you cryed about lethals ages and mana burn is even more dangerous coz lethal rate never been like m.critical rate and in both cases you will die no hp= no mana
if this topic not about sps / ee and not about oly , then u better consider checking mana burn outside oly , well buffed mage i barely do 90-100 mana drain and btw skill cost is 103 mana and if i got lucky with a crit thats like 400-500 , so its its not that huge and its normal , and about lethal it was rly high and i never asked for it to be removed or be useless , i just asked to fix the effect from 1 hp to something else higher and now lethal chance is not that low as u think , now its fair rate , same for mana burn its fair
Quote from: Diabolical on September 05, 2009, 04:06:35 PM
if this topic not about sps / ee and not about oly , then u better consider checking mana burn outside oly , well buffed mage i barely do 90-100 mana drain and btw skill cost is 103 mana and if i got lucky with a crit thats like 400-500 , so its its not that huge and its normal , and about lethal it was rly high and i never asked for it to be removed or be useless , i just asked to fix the effect from 1 hp to something else higher and now lethal chance is not that low as u think , now its fair rate , same for mana burn its fair
agree on this one, didn't check systemhack's replies that i already know senseless, i ll just add a 500 mburn on crit, yes it is a non negligeable amount, just like a nuke solar flare mcrit or w/e is very important, that's what mcrits do, they matter in the fight, it is meant.
Quote from: SysTemHacK on September 05, 2009, 05:00:56 AM
I didn't talk about your mana burn agumentation I talked about the skill that buffers/heals got it and you coz u r buffer/summoer get extra
hey freaktard i didn't talk about my mana burn augment etiher i stoped using it 3 months ago, you don't know jackshit about oly yet you dare to open your mouth with all the garbage that pops out of that, and you think you actually talk wisely.
I red two lines on your post, it's already obvious you didn't understand jackshit, so before reading further i will explain you how your assumption is wrong :
delete mana burn at oly i will spam augment stone, same shit, the win is mine.
please don't bother answering
Quote from: SysTemHacK on September 05, 2009, 05:00:56 AM
wear mana regeneration tattoos I already did that+ talisman !! and I didn't use any toggels and I didn't make any wasted blows like back stap in the face and guess what same results out of mana for 3 matches in arow in few secs so please stop tell that shitty excuse that we don't know how to play thats why u win and it's funny to hea that from Mr.3 skills heal / mana burn / stone agumentation . keep acting like afool but it won't prove ur point and about demonsfall words I dont give afreak if he couldn't do afix to agame then he is shitty coder/gm not that it's not possible .. for god sake it's not natural feature I asked to be changed so you tell me thats not possible lol
and to taht part, anyone could answer you i didn't use mana burn till its last fix, indeed it was not worth it, how did i make 1 k pts? well mana burn is far from being essential, ee/es is a great char overall, yet.... you don't know jackshit about oly... yet you assumed i lied about not using mana burn just like you assumed it about track not being able to delete the mcrit possiblity on mana burn... yet you're wrong...
Quote from: Diabolical on September 05, 2009, 04:06:35 PM
if this topic not about sps / ee and not about oly , then u better consider checking mana burn outside oly , well buffed mage i barely do 90-100 mana drain and btw skill cost is 103 mana and if i got lucky with a crit thats like 400-500 , so its its not that huge and its normal , and about lethal it was rly high and i never asked for it to be removed or be useless , i just asked to fix the effect from 1 hp to something else higher and now lethal chance is not that low as u think , now its fair rate , same for mana burn its fair
what is the sense of fair in ur opinion ?! almost 3k mana leached by 2 hits from not even anuker , and what would kill the damage of mana burn out side oly that much lol resists buffs of mana burn maybe ?! ofc augmentation rate of m.def on full buffs would be higher than m.atk out side oly but that difference won't kill the damage from 3k by 2 hits to 200 by 2 hits ?! ::)
and about the definition of fair expression to you I got aquestion : since when m.critical rate is compared to lethal rate meanwhile both of them are fatal ?
if you think that to is " FAIR " to get 3k mana burn leached by 2 hits and if the mana burn whore was unlucky and he didn't get criticals any way you will get out of mana in few secs by normal damage then n/c
Quote from: our4n0s on September 05, 2009, 08:01:04 PM
hey freaktard i didn't talk about my mana burn augment etiher i stoped using it 3 months ago, you don't know jackshit about oly yet you dare to open your mouth with all the garbage that pops out of that, and you think you actually talk wisely.
I red two lines on your post, it's already obvious you didn't understand jackshit, so before reading further i will explain you how your assumption is wrong :
delete mana burn at oly i will spam augment stone, same shit, the win is mine.
please don't bother answering
you read what you want from my post and replay it avoiding what you can't get answer , I won't say learn to read coz you know how but I would say stop acting like afool and ok you spam the augment stone and i will spam my damn skills coz I would have mana to do so and please reveal to us what else of hidden skills you use we don't see but mana burn / heal / augment lol for god sake I never even saw you useing uniqorn stun ;D
Quote from: our4n0s on September 05, 2009, 08:04:07 PM
and to taht part, anyone could answer you i didn't use mana burn till its last fix, indeed it was not worth it, how did i make 1 k pts? well mana burn is far from being essential, ee/es is a great char overall, yet.... you don't know jackshit about oly... yet you assumed i lied about not using mana burn just like you assumed it about track not being able to delete the mcrit possiblity on mana burn... yet you're wrong...
like i was playing on another server when mana burn was bugged , tell me remind you what happened so maybe you would stop that foolish mode On
when mana burn was bugged or nerfed under test you stop playing oly and even game I have watched oly after that for days and you was rarely playing after you got bored of 6 min matches with sps/ee and no longer 3 secs pwning matches and you started to make cry topics like RIP mana burn you served me well bla bla bla and you made me lol hard for the xxxx time when i read that you don't know jackshit about oly from Mr. 3 skills that loled me hard too when he acted like apro and tried to give us alecture about archers game play xDD
won't you ever get tired of ur retardness ? ::)
Quote from: Ungolianth on September 05, 2009, 10:59:48 AM
since he got spash he can kill some1 outside oly
Quote from: Ungolianth on September 05, 2009, 12:30:26 PM
fact is that he got it so QQs "u lucky u got that augument" are funny...i wanna see u against tony 1vs1 to see who powns who cuz i bet tony can pown u
Quote from: Ungolianth on September 05, 2009, 01:00:46 PM
i wonder he not bsoed ;<
Quote from: Ungolianth on September 05, 2009, 01:03:18 PM
i can definetly tell who is not powner and guess who is winner? u :P and to talk about issue y mana burn nice skill xD since u cant kill nobody with mana or w/o it i dont see reason why u reply here :-*
Quote from: Ungolianth on September 05, 2009, 03:45:51 PM
i need make higher res background in my sig and u will got no chance :P
absolutely useless spam and bullshits you didn't even talk about mana burn for once and after I checked all ur posts through topics they are just lame weak flames with ahope that would make from you some thing , haters like you who got 0 knowlege about l2 and they just use forums for bitching around and flaming every one will remain the garbage of forums .. well I don't mind to lead you to spam section if you lost the way , and really funny to hear that i can't kill ashit from temp PVE guy that I really don't remember that I saw him on mass pvp or siege or 1 vs 1 :-*
Quote from: SysTemHacK on September 06, 2009, 05:16:04 AM
what is the sense of fair in ur opinion ?! almost 3k mana leached by 2 hits from not even anuker , and what would kill the damage of mana burn out side oly that much lol resists buffs of mana burn maybe ?! ofc augmentation rate of m.def on full buffs would be higher than m.atk out side oly but that difference won't kill the damage from 3k by 2 hits to 200 by 2 hits ?! ::)
and about the definition of fair expression to you I got aquestion : since when m.critical rate is compared to lethal rate meanwhile both of them are fatal ?
if you think that to is " FAIR " to get 3k mana burn leached by 2 hits and if the mana burn whore was unlucky and he didn't get criticals any way you will get out of mana in few secs by normal damage then n/c
u first said its not about sps / ee and its not about oly , and yet again u use teh same argument that 3k mana drain in 2 hits THAT WERE MADE INSIDE OLY and u still use it , leave oly for a sec and come to normal game , buff urself the proper buffs and get a mage with mana burn and ask him to mana burn u till he crits and see the difference , u made one search on one lame sps / ee on oly with no mdef buffs at all but POW and u claim mana burn is op , i advise u to test it outside oly before u make a topic here and believe me teh results will make u wish u never opened the topic , do ur homework before u post again please , just go check it
Quote from: Diabolical on September 06, 2009, 06:14:26 AM
u first said its not about sps / ee and its not about oly , and yet again u use teh same argument that 3k mana drain in 2 hits THAT WERE MADE INSIDE OLY and u still use it , leave oly for a sec and come to normal game , buff urself the proper buffs and get a mage with mana burn and ask him to mana burn u till he crits and see the difference , u made one search on one lame sps / ee on oly with no mdef buffs at all but POW and u claim mana burn is op , i advise u to test it outside oly before u make a topic here and believe me teh results will make u wish u never opened the topic , do ur homework before u post again please , just go check it
well it wasn't only for NiToPaMi's screen , remember I made same like this topic some time ago and it was about my own char that almost got the hightest m.def in oly after sws/ee and I see no difference from there and now and even for my experience with th/pp it's worth coz to ofc no comparison between the ammount of mana needed to launch an arrow and staping skill and lets be objective about it NiToPaMi's m.def in oly with his over enchanted jewels and magic barrier lvl 10 augment and pow ain't low at all and as altheo and i even staretd to believe it's not about m.def as altheo said on apervious post and yes I said it's not about sps/ee IN OLY not not about oly , and lets not forget it's not only about damage of mana burn it's about the extra advantage when it got used with arcana aguility , and out side oly there is no use of this skill coz simply there is no time for burning the opponent mana in 3 secs pvps
actually u r wrong , no u didnt test it , when i log in game i will search for u and prove u wrong
my answer for this problem....
-delete all agu in oly :D
-delete mana burn cryt in oly :D
Quote from: SysTemHacK on September 06, 2009, 05:24:56 AM
I never even saw you useing uniqorn stun ;D
yes, its reuse is 30 s, its hp is 4k, its mdef is 700, yeah i don't use it because i would die in 2 hits, damn man you're such a noob and you really don't know shit
Quote from: SysTemHacK on September 06, 2009, 06:45:37 AM
well it wasn't only for NiToPaMi's screen , remember I made same like this topic some time ago and it was about my own char that almost got the hightest m.def in oly after sws/ee and I see no difference from there and now and even for my experience with th/pp it's worth coz to ofc no comparison between the ammount of mana needed to launch an arrow and staping skill and lets be objective about it NiToPaMi's m.def in oly with his over enchanted jewels and magic barrier lvl 10 augment and pow ain't low at all and as altheo and i even staretd to believe it's not about m.def as altheo said on apervious post and yes I said it's not about sps/ee IN OLY not not about oly , and lets not forget it's not only about damage of mana burn it's about the extra advantage when it got used with arcana aguility , and out side oly there is no use of this skill coz simply there is no time for burning the opponent mana in 3 secs pvps
actually i was wrong, it relies on mdef we checked it with agil, and i mburn him for 142 normal hit (i guess its ~450 normal hit on sps ee average), with empower lvl 3, pow and +7 am+A.
in PvP, where you got guys to recharge you mana po etc, 142 mburn is nothing, only the crit matters, not mentioning i made 142 on his self buff, he oculd have had magnus or mdef trigger andi would do 100 normal hit? not mentioning being fighter stats greatly lowers the mana burn effect upon yourself.... tank full buf? i would mana burn 60 on pvp? wanna nerf that ? asshole
Quote from: our4n0s on September 06, 2009, 01:27:30 PM
yes, its reuse is 30 s, its hp is 4k, its mdef is 700, yeah i don't use it because i would die in 2 hits, damn man you're such a noob and you really don't know shit
used to pwn in Interlude, now is a shit alright
Why don't we just disable oly?
I mean apparently ppl can't handle it cause you keep bitching about it in every other topic.
There's how many ppl playing oly? 10?
And everything revolves around the handfull of oly farmers, and trying to balance them. I for one am sick and tired of it.
Outside oly manaburn isn't that much of a problem... It's just another skill.
@SystemHack you shouldn't complain about other ppl spamming your topic when you spam it yourself with double posts. You do know you can have several quotes in one reply right?
Quote from: kidicarus on September 06, 2009, 02:40:22 PM
Why don't we just disable oly?
I mean apparently ppl can't handle it cause you keep bitching about it in every other topic.
There's how many ppl playing oly? 10?
And everything revolves around the handfull of oly farmers, and trying to balance them. I for one am sick and tired of it.
Outside oly manaburn isn't that much of a problem... It's just another skill.
@SystemHack you shouldn't complain about other ppl spamming your topic when you spam it yourself with double posts. You do know you can have several quotes in one reply right?
well dude because 10 ppl only plays oly I want it to be balanced coz as we all know mana burn whores rules inside there and they even sell hero stats for money / transfer for thier friends and that what made almost all who used to play in oly gave up about it coz no sense in giving fair play in anot fair competition , and the great lol of all times that almost all classes now turned to be dwarfs in oly .. all now transfer by his own noble bots or pay to get transfered , 90% of hero stats are like that ... heroes we never even saw them playing unknown names and when you check site you will see that hero classes that used to need 300 and 400 and 500 points are now just 50 and 60 .. ppl made exactly the 15 fights and they made it and check it by ur self
http://dragon-network.net/xml/nightmare/hero.xml
and about spam thing I really don't see any difference to read my words on one pack or several organized packs to who pointed aspeach to me at least so things don't mix up any way you gonna read my words , there is adifference between replying and useless talk that makes no use or sense .
dude its not coz of mana burn lol szi dont have mana burn , spash and others too so wtf re u talking about its coz of chars not only mana burn im dying with agil in few seconds not only coz of mana burn im dying by augments like stone nice dmg and fast re use and low mp consuption also so u should make topic with augments not mana burn anyway i never made a mana burn crit on my bp/wk i think only white elf classes re doing it maybe coz of casting speed or w/e
Quote from: our4n0s on September 06, 2009, 01:55:00 PM
actually i was wrong, it relies on mdef we checked it with agil, and i mburn him for 142 normal hit (i guess its ~450 normal hit on sps ee average), with empower lvl 3, pow and +7 am+A.
in PvP, where you got guys to recharge you mana po etc, 142 mburn is nothing, only the crit matters, not mentioning i made 142 on his self buff, he oculd have had magnus or mdef trigger andi would do 100 normal hit? not mentioning being fighter stats greatly lowers the mana burn effect upon yourself.... tank full buf? i would mana burn 60 on pvp? wanna nerf that ? asshole
about the mana burn damages that you said I can't reply coz since damage on full buffs in less than damage on selff butts ::) ... and you got no screens just ur insain words + and I won't repeat my self talking about damage difference just read what I said to rebel
and about asshole thing I won't lower my self to ur mental level and reply you or maybe I just did ::)
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 06, 2009, 02:08:19 PM
used to pwn in Interlude, now is a shit alright
heh like he used it in IL on the epic era of mana burn .... just lame excuses for defending his 3 skills pwning style
Quote from: Takashii on September 06, 2009, 05:19:17 PM
dude its not coz of mana burn lol szi dont have mana burn , spash and others too so wtf re u talking about its coz of chars not only mana burn im dying with agil in few seconds not only coz of mana burn im dying by augments like stone nice dmg and fast re use and low mp consuption also so u should make topic with augments not mana burn anyway i never made a mana burn crit on my bp/wk i think only white elf classes re doing it maybe coz of casting speed or w/e
dude don't calculate spash he is feed up and szi failed amillion time befor he made it with 144 points ( 24 win 4 lose ) obviously that score tells us 1 thing ...
you partly got right coz the mana whores are summoners classes and cause of arcana aguility and it's fatal effect on mana burn and ofc augmentations that used to add the will of atk to buffers and summoers on retail servers now it's acurse for us that should be removed from oly and as I saw some agree with me on that point shall we make avoting poll about it ?
each guy who cant win on oly ll vote for nerf mana burn
Quote from: Takashii on September 06, 2009, 05:48:38 PM
each guy who cant win on oly ll vote for nerf mana burn
and ppl who win won't ? and who want to have fun too won't ?
if they re winning why should they cry about mana burn? if they need some fun it doesnt matter if they ll win or lose
what's seek of consideration?
Quote from: xD on September 06, 2009, 06:24:46 PM
what's seek of consideration?
secs of determination
Quote from: SysTemHacK on September 06, 2009, 05:36:04 AM
like i was playing on another server when mana burn was bugged , tell me remind you what happened so maybe you would stop that foolish mode On
when mana burn was bugged or nerfed under test you stop playing oly and even game I have watched oly after that for days and you was rarely playing after you got bored of 6 min matches with sps/ee and no longer 3 secs pwning matches and you started to make cry topics like RIP mana burn you served me well bla bla bla and you made me lol hard for the xxxx time when i read that you don't know jackshit about oly from Mr. 3 skills that loled me hard too when he acted like apro and tried to give us alecture about archers game play xDD
won't you ever get tired of ur retardness ? ::)
that's such a huge bs, every oly farmer, spash, agil or rebel, or whoever really watched oly, even federikos, kobrapwns or w/e can tell you i kill them since i ve stone augment which is quite a while, i don't need mana burn.
Now every close friend like spash reb or w/e will tell you i was in holidays about 3 months, i was back from time to time 2/3 days but never more that's why you very rarely saw me on. i am so tired of your bs
Quote from: our4n0s on September 06, 2009, 07:26:46 PM
that's such a huge bs, every oly farmer, spash, agil or rebel, or whoever really watched oly, even federikos, kobrapwns or w/e can tell you i kill them since i ve stone augment which is quite a while, i don't need mana burn.
Now every close friend like spash reb or w/e will tell you i was in holidays about 3 months, i was back from time to time 2/3 days but never more that's why you very rarely saw me on. i am so tired of your bs
only for 5 days
<name>LayMeDown</name>
<level>85</level>
<class>EVAS_SAINT</class>
<clan>epic</clan>
<points>264</points>
<match_count>111</match_count>
<match_won_count>96</match_won_count>
<match_lost_count>15</match_lost_count>
take i life
altheo let me explain u :
last mount when mana burn whas riped you finish on 30 of mount whit 200+ and now for 5 days you got 260+ dont tell the ppl thet you have been 3 mount awey, you have been on oly menager and you write them, you can win on oly whit mana burn and nothing else, you give point to ppl who you whant to be hero and then you take them books from them. IF MANA BURN BE NERF LIKE 10 DAYS AGO I'AM SURE 100% THET YOU WILL NOT PLAY ANY MORE IN OLY AND TOO MUCH PPL WILL BACK IN OLY LIKE BEFORE WE WILL HAVE 8 TO 10 ROOMS. YOU KNOW ONLY TO YOUSE BUGET SKIL MANA BURN TO MAKE STUFF FOR YOU ONLY FROM OLY BEACOSE YOU ARE NOTHING FORM OUT OF OLY.
Quote from: NiToPaMi on September 06, 2009, 09:39:24 PM
altheo let me explain u :
last mount when mana burn whas riped you finish on 30 of mount whit 200+ and now for 5 days you got 260+ dont tell the ppl thet you have been 3 mount awey, you have been on oly menager and you write them, you can win on oly whit mana burn and nothing else, you give point to ppl who you whant to be hero and then you take them books from them. IF MANA BURN BE NERF LIKE 10 DAYS AGO I'AM SURE 100% THET YOU WILL NOT PLAY ANY MORE IN OLY AND TOO MUCH PPL WILL BACK IN OLY LIKE BEFORE WE WILL HAVE 8 TO 10 ROOMS. YOU KNOW ONLY TO YOUSE BUGET SKIL MANA BURN TO MAKE STUFF FOR YOU ONLY FROM OLY BEACOSE YOU ARE NOTHING FORM OUT OF OLY.
first of all, 'take a life' from you is nothing but a joke, second of all, your memory is like 5 days? you cryed for transfer remember? spash had 700 pts right? you know i transfered him, andi transfered funkeh, and pokerstar, and xtirker, that makes over 1 k pts that i gave, so the total pts i had was 1300 pts, and i was back on the 24th of august, i made 1300 pts in 1 week.
and yeah i was on holidays rest of the time, as i said my friends know it since they re the ones that noticed i wasn't on, just like system noticed it, sorry dude i was surfing near biarritz while you were farming dynasty parts, then i was sailing in the north of france.... while u were farming dynasty recipes <3, btw check my sig
Quote from: our4n0s on September 06, 2009, 10:14:58 PM
first of all, 'take a life' from you is nothing but a joke, second of all, your memory is like 5 days? you cryed for transfer remember? spash had 700 pts right? you know i transfered him, andi transfered funkeh, and pokerstar, and xtirker, that makes over 1 k pts that i gave, so the total pts i had was 1300 pts, and i was back on the 24th of august, i made 1300 pts in 1 week.
and yeah i was on holidays rest of the time, as i said my friends know it since they re the ones that noticed i wasn't on, just like system noticed it, sorry dude i was surfing near biarritz while you were farming dynasty parts, then i was sailing in the north of france.... while u were farming dynasty recipes <3, btw check my sig
server gona die bcz u are theare
if Track dont care about for what we talk, me dont care to.
NERF freakING MANA BURN
so nerf sps/ee on oly too lol im getting more crits from sps/ee then mana burn from laymedown or some1
nuuuuuuuuuuuuurffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
neeeeeerf windpenis!!!! :D
Quote from: NiToPaMi on September 06, 2009, 11:11:04 PM
server gona die bcz u are theare
if Track dont care about for what we talk, me dont care to.
NERF freakING MANA BURN
really? :'( :'( :'( oh noes!
To be honest, I don't think that server is dying because altheo is using mana burn on oly. Really, that's wild theory.
Quote from: our4n0s on September 06, 2009, 07:26:46 PM
that's such a huge bs, every oly farmer, spash, agil or rebel, or whoever really watched oly, even federikos, kobrapwns or w/e can tell you i kill them since i ve stone augment which is quite a while, i don't need mana burn.
Now every close friend like spash reb or w/e will tell you i was in holidays about 3 months, i was back from time to time 2/3 days but never more that's why you very rarely saw me on. i am so tired of your bs
ofc ofc and best prov of what you just said when we all saw good sps/ee players started to rape ur ass in oly coz they had mana and time for canceling you and no longer 3 secs gf shit.. I won't argue with you about some thing I saw with my eyes and we all saw , 1 class to make that ammount of points every month 1.3 and 1.4 meamwhile ALL other classes earn hero by transfer for 50/60/70 points thats tells us 1 of 2 things
1- you are damn pro hardcore player and we all suck in this game and know nothing about it .
2-your class is damn over powered for some reason should be fixed and that thing is mana burn and stone augmentation .
I won't talk about it again I proved my points in many ways by explaining and facts and data and you didn't show any thing but retardness and lies + Blindness when I asked for screens that shows the 140 that burned agil with and telling stuff then denying it like when you said that you sell heroes stats for money and then you said it was kinda of sarcasm and that don't happened and it does and when you told that ur success rate in killing every one in oly is 100% on the days of ur mana burn augment and meanwhile you was defeneding that augment thats not OP and it won't matter to burn ur mana in 30 secs or 10 and exactly as now you deny that mana burn thing doesn't matter with you and you even stop playing for that and it was comical when you said to aguy sps/ee charged him self Vs you thats he is alamer by playing like that meanwhile you spamed on him the mana burn like zillion time and here you again go on with ur clowning show by telling that I tell BS and you didn't even give 1single reasonable word .
Quote from: SysTemHacK on September 07, 2009, 12:45:10 PM
ofc ofc and best prov of what you just said when we all saw good sps/ee players started to rape ur ass in oly coz they had mana and time for canceling you and no longer 3 secs gf shit.. I won't argue with you about some thing I saw with my eyes and we all saw , 1 class to make that ammount of points every month 1.3 and 1.4 meamwhile ALL other classes earn hero by transfer for 50/60/70 points thats tells us 1 of 2 things
1- you are damn pro hardcore player and we all suck in this game and know nothing about it .
2-your class is damn over powered for some reason should be fixed and that thing is mana burn and stone augmentation .
I won't talk about it again I proved my points in many ways by explaining and facts and data and you didn't show any thing but retardness and lies + Blindness when I asked for screens that shows the 140 that burned agil with and telling stuff then denying it like when you said that you sell heroes stats for money and then you said it was kinda of sarcasm and that don't happened and it does and when you told that ur success rate in killing every one in oly is 100% on the days of ur mana burn augment and meanwhile you was defeneding that augment thats not OP and it won't matter to burn ur mana in 30 secs or 10 and exactly as now you deny that mana burn thing doesn't matter with you and you even stop playing for that and it was comical when you said to aguy sps/ee charged him self Vs you thats he is alamer by playing like that meanwhile you spamed on him the mana burn like zillion time and here you again go on with ur clowning show by telling that I tell BS and you didn't even give 1single reasonable word .
hey dude you know what? i feel pretty dumb for not thinking of that earlier but better later than never ! so here s the deal, you chose an average sps/ee, you send it to me in oly and i will not use a single mana burn, let's see who will win?
Altheo,if u don't need Mana Burn why the freak u bother posting here?....
Quote from: SysTemHacK on September 06, 2009, 05:29:42 PM
heh like he used it in IL on the epic era of mana burn .... just lame excuses for defending his 3 skills pwning style
you will never stop talking bs...
i used the pony in IL times mostly vs daggers, back in the days they had insane augment mana burn on dagger and each physical crit would burn me 200-300 mana, back then i therefore went for stun, and that worked out pretty well, mostly on camitzescu.... the other hand of that pet is he s 2 blows... and with the actual reuse of stun it's not worth it..
Quote from: Sephiroth on September 07, 2009, 02:05:51 PM
Altheo,if u don't need Mana Burn why the freak u bother posting here?....
i m posting here because nerfing mana burn is bs, because outside oly this skill is far from being OP, and even inside oly, or maybe it is with me ( don't wanna 4 more drama pages), but what then ? nerfing a skill because of 1 player? that's pretty dumb isn't it? that's why i am posting there lol
Quote from: our4n0s on September 07, 2009, 02:13:18 PM
i m posting here because nerfing mana burn is bs, because outside oly this skill is far from being OP, and even inside oly, or maybe it is with me ( don't wanna 4 more drama pages), but what then ? nerfing a skill because of 1 player? that's pretty dumb isn't it? that's why i am posting there lol
It was nerfed,the same for Lethal rate,and it should stay like that.
I will work on nerf today, bear wiv me.
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