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Title: Oly solution
Post by: Sifacil on October 12, 2009, 06:07:55 AM
Ok..im retired from forum activity, but anyway, i took some time thinking about what to do with olympiad to make it better for everyone. As i see now, theres been 2 years of this system and we can come to these conclusion: Olympiad turned into a maffia thing, and the big farmers control it and decide who gets hero and who doesent (even charging ppl in coins for getting hero). Imo thats not the point of olympiad, but to have fun and decide who is the best in each class...now is about who is friend of who or who has more bots or who pays more. Im not against anyone here, as everybody knows, i been around for long time and i pretty know every old player of the server, so my intention here is not to attack anyone, but just add my 2 cents and try to make a better server to everyone.

Ok now, the systems got so corrupted that the only way to get hero if ure not a farmer is to log a lot of bots and pray to not get a farmer when u enter. So imo theres no fun at all with that, and it only adds more fortune to the farmers who get the naked bots that ppl logs to tranfer and get points for free.
Everybody knows that 90% of the classes now are not meant for oly, and they have really low chances of getting hero by themselves, so they eventually have to make a deal with farmers to get hero stat.

Now the ideas...

1- Is pretty obvious that nerfing is not the way, because at the end it only unbalance things more, and u enter an endless nerfing weel that never ends.

2- Re installing Class based games: I know, it was used to tranfer in the past, but hey..whats the difference with now? I will tell u..the difference was that in class based at least more ppl got bogs,and not only farmers, it needed some clan work and it was pretty fun when u spoted ppl tranfering, u enter with ur pro "w/e" and try to stop tranfering by killing them. It was plain more fair than now since at least if u won, u could say that u was the best in that class. Myself used to make hero shouts when i was about to make class based inviting other Saggitarious to try to defeat me...and trust me it was a hard adrenalline rush to fight others like me..i mean...at least was some kind of fair fight.

3-Allow pot usage. This is not the best idea i came up with, but hey its smth, at least it will stop the mana burn cryes. and fighters will have more chances to win a fight vs mages, even mages know that pro mana burners are just impossible to defeat.

---------------------------

Guys, im not intended to start a fight or a debate, i gave my opinion as an old player that wants to have a little bit of fun in a server that gets less and less ppl. I can understand that gms, and coders have a life and cant be all day changing our dypers and we have to come up with smth to make server more attractive to new comers, or for old players that wanna come back.
I spoke with lots of ppl in the server about what to do to improve oly a bit, and i only get "freak oly" or "nerf mana burn"...and u know..thats not a solution, thats a drawback.

I hope my opinion worth smth.

<3
Sifa
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: cristianvernal on October 12, 2009, 06:55:19 AM
ofc ur opinion worth smth, since i know u that u have good ideas to this server...

now, ihave always been against transfer, but nowdays its all about 3/4 ppl gettin a lot of benefits out of bogs and hero's... back in days there were A LOT of ppl on olys, class based or not, and was fun like sifa says, u can get ur char rdy and stop the transfer or w/e...

thats an idea to keep server alive, cos nowdays the server is pretty dead and this kind of ideas should be considered instead of having ppl spamming or flaming....


imo, good idea and it might get a bit more ppl active...
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: jygh on October 12, 2009, 08:09:04 AM
Quote from: Sifacil on October 12, 2009, 06:07:55 AM
Ok..im retired from forum activity, but anyway, i took some time thinking about what to do with olympiad to make it better for everyone. As i see now, theres been 2 years of this system and we can come to these conclusion: Olympiad turned into a maffia thing, and the big farmers control it and decide who gets hero and who doesent (even charging ppl in coins for getting hero). Imo thats not the point of olympiad, but to have fun and decide who is the best in each class...now is about who is friend of who or who has more bots or who pays more. Im not against anyone here, as everybody knows, i been around for long time and i pretty know every old player of the server, so my intention here is not to attack anyone, but just add my 2 cents and try to make a better server to everyone.

Ok now, the systems got so corrupted that the only way to get hero if ure not a farmer is to log a lot of bots and pray to not get a farmer when u enter. So imo theres no fun at all with that, and it only adds more fortune to the farmers who get the naked bots that ppl logs to tranfer and get points for free.
Everybody knows that 90% of the classes now are not meant for oly, and they have really low chances of getting hero by themselves, so they eventually have to make a deal with farmers to get hero stat.

Now the ideas...

1- Is pretty obvious that nerfing is not the way, because at the end it only unbalance things more, and u enter an endless nerfing weel that never ends.

2- Re installing Class based games: I know, it was used to tranfer in the past, but hey..whats the difference with now? I will tell u..the difference was that in class based at least more ppl got bogs,and not only farmers, it needed some clan work and it was pretty fun when u spoted ppl tranfering, u enter with ur pro "w/e" and try to stop tranfering by killing them. It was plain more fair than now since at least if u won, u could say that u was the best in that class. Myself used to make hero shouts when i was about to make class based inviting other Saggitarious to try to defeat me...and trust me it was a hard adrenalline rush to fight others like me..i mean...at least was some kind of fair fight.

3-Allow pot usage. This is not the best idea i came up with, but hey its smth, at least it will stop the mana burn cryes. and fighters will have more chances to win a fight vs mages, even mages know that pro mana burners are just impossible to defeat.

---------------------------

Guys, im not intended to start a fight or a debate, i gave my opinion as an old player that wants to have a little bit of fun in a server that gets less and less ppl. I can understand that gms, and coders have a life and cant be all day changing our dypers and we have to come up with smth to make server more attractive to new comers, or for old players that wanna come back.
I spoke with lots of ppl in the server about what to do to improve oly a bit, and i only get "freak oly" or "nerf mana burn"...and u know..thats not a solution, thats a drawback.

I hope my opinion worth smth.

<3
Sifa
well not bad ideas imo :P anyway in my opinion  as i said in some topics that oly should be only for retail class .... it would bring more fun also :P retail and without augument .....
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: VforVanilla on October 12, 2009, 09:54:28 AM
Quote from: jygh on October 12, 2009, 08:09:04 AM
well not bad ideas imo :P anyway in my opinion  as i said in some topics that oly should be only for retail class .... it would bring more fun also :P retail and without augument .....

Yea but almost all mutants have both class skills while they are on retail,so...
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: WindPhoenix on October 12, 2009, 10:21:13 AM
To be honest, making oly retail- type for the base class without DN sub, would spice things up.
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: Diver on October 12, 2009, 11:37:13 AM
best solution for all - delete stack sub
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: flamingAwe on October 12, 2009, 11:43:24 AM
if someone is afraid of oly farming chars, he should make such char himself, and TRY to farm himself
If he succeeds, he's winner, he can give points to friends.
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: lucifsg on October 12, 2009, 12:07:53 PM
Quote from: jygh on October 12, 2009, 08:09:04 AM
well not bad ideas imo :P anyway in my opinion  as i said in some topics that oly should be only for retail class .... it would bring more fun also :P retail and without augument .....

actually ur idea sucks , if we go retail based ncsoft made augs for that reason so go qq to em .
class based is rather a good idea but i wonder if oly ll die cause noone will match his class to play and there will be just bot rushes for pts ...
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: lucifsg on October 12, 2009, 12:12:35 PM
Quote from: WindPhoenix on October 12, 2009, 10:21:13 AM
To be honest, making oly retail- type for the base class without DN sub, would spice things up.

i just decide i should stop replying to forum cause its pointless.
smartass how would u play oly how many es would sign up ... or even sps...
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: lucifsg on October 12, 2009, 12:13:55 PM
i wanna ask u guys smth. why there is only 1 sws/ee in oly farming atm ? is it so hard to make one and go farm ?
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: jygh on October 12, 2009, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: lucifsg on October 12, 2009, 12:13:55 PM
i wanna ask u guys smth. why there is only 1 sws/ee in oly farming atm ? is it so hard to make one and go farm ?
cuz olympiad is not about 1 fcking class but all class and iff mine idea sux then give any better.... and ok auguments can stay so will be more balanced than it is for now for 100% ... is not our fault u donated a lot to buy life stones and now u want to save them
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: macris-0007 on October 12, 2009, 01:06:51 PM
jizzz ppl oly sucks balls... better go to hb for 27v27 or smth... oh i forgot that this is nm
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: Deavon on October 12, 2009, 01:33:54 PM
Quote from: Sifacil on October 12, 2009, 06:07:55 AM

2- Re installing Class based games: I know, it was used to tranfer in the past, but hey..whats the difference with now? I will tell u..the difference was that in class based at least more ppl got bogs,and not only farmers, it needed some clan work and it was pretty fun when u spoted ppl tranfering, u enter with ur pro "w/e" and try to stop tranfering by killing them. It was plain more fair than now since at least if u won, u could say that u was the best in that class. Myself used to make hero shouts when i was about to make class based inviting other Saggitarious to try to defeat me...and trust me it was a hard adrenalline rush to fight others like me..i mean...at least was some kind of fair fight.


You got over 10 HE nooblessed dont you? xD

Tho by reading ur topic another idea came up =O

Make oly like this : Archer vs archers only ,mages vs mages ,support vs support , tanks vs tanks , etc vs etc .

Like this the best combination and skilled wins ,end of story all happy? O;
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: cthon on October 12, 2009, 01:44:47 PM
Quote from: Sifacil on October 12, 2009, 06:07:55 AM
Ok..im retired from forum activity, but anyway, i took some time thinking about what to do with olympiad to make it better for everyone. As i see now, theres been 2 years of this system and we can come to these conclusion: Olympiad turned into a maffia thing, and the big farmers control it and decide who gets hero and who doesent (even charging ppl in coins for getting hero). Imo thats not the point of olympiad, but to have fun and decide who is the best in each class...now is about who is friend of who or who has more bots or who pays more. Im not against anyone here, as everybody knows, i been around for long time and i pretty know every old player of the server, so my intention here is not to attack anyone, but just add my 2 cents and try to make a better server to everyone.

Ok now, the systems got so corrupted that the only way to get hero if ure not a farmer is to log a lot of bots and pray to not get a farmer when u enter. So imo theres no fun at all with that, and it only adds more fortune to the farmers who get the naked bots that ppl logs to tranfer and get points for free.
Everybody knows that 90% of the classes now are not meant for oly, and they have really low chances of getting hero by themselves, so they eventually have to make a deal with farmers to get hero stat.

Now the ideas...

1- Is pretty obvious that nerfing is not the way, because at the end it only unbalance things more, and u enter an endless nerfing weel that never ends.

2- Re installing Class based games: I know, it was used to tranfer in the past, but hey..whats the difference with now? I will tell u..the difference was that in class based at least more ppl got bogs,and not only farmers, it needed some clan work and it was pretty fun when u spoted ppl tranfering, u enter with ur pro "w/e" and try to stop tranfering by killing them. It was plain more fair than now since at least if u won, u could say that u was the best in that class. Myself used to make hero shouts when i was about to make class based inviting other Saggitarious to try to defeat me...and trust me it was a hard adrenalline rush to fight others like me..i mean...at least was some kind of fair fight.

3-Allow pot usage. This is not the best idea i came up with, but hey its smth, at least it will stop the mana burn cryes. and fighters will have more chances to win a fight vs mages, even mages know that pro mana burners are just impossible to defeat.

---------------------------

Guys, im not intended to start a fight or a debate, i gave my opinion as an old player that wants to have a little bit of fun in a server that gets less and less ppl. I can understand that gms, and coders have a life and cant be all day changing our dypers and we have to come up with smth to make server more attractive to new comers, or for old players that wanna come back.
I spoke with lots of ppl in the server about what to do to improve oly a bit, and i only get "freak oly" or "nerf mana burn"...and u know..thats not a solution, thats a drawback.

I hope my opinion worth smth.

<3
Sifa

so let me get it right here... u can't be hero anymore cause altheo left Epic tho u didn't like it cause u had to give the bogs back so now u want to be hero with trasnfer in bassed like u did before...
great idea imo... +1
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: Sifacil on October 12, 2009, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: cthon on October 12, 2009, 01:44:47 PM
so let me get it right here... u can't be hero anymore cause altheo left Epic tho u didn't like it cause u had to give the bogs back so now u want to be hero with trasnfer in bassed like u did before...
great idea imo... +1

No no u got me wrong, the idea is to catch u are ur faggy friends tranfering points so i can join the party and rape u all. (oh true, u had lag when u fight me,sorry)

Jeez guys...lol...ok ...New ideas so far: Play oly in 1 class only: Answer: No can do. coz it needs coding and drake is missing in action and track is busy thinking in new ideas to make ppl donate. So no
Other ideas (this is a great one) MAKE URSELF A FARMER AND TRANFER TO URSELF. ...i think this idea sums up the very same reason i started this post for.
The point here is to have fun with ur main char, whatever class it is, and if u feel like u own in ur class, u can set one day to gather all of ur same class and fight eachother to find out who is the best (making a hero shout or a post in forum)...i think thats the point of oly isnt it? Thats why i suggested class based.
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: cthon on October 12, 2009, 03:52:05 PM
Quote from: Sifacil on October 12, 2009, 03:44:33 PM
No no u got me wrong, the idea is to catch u are ur faggy friends tranfering points so i can join the party and rape u all. (oh true, u had lag when u fight me,sorry)

Jeez guys...lol...ok ...New ideas so far: Play oly in 1 class only: Answer: No can do. coz it needs coding and drake is missing in action and track is busy thinking in new ideas to make ppl donate. So no
Other ideas (this is a great one) MAKE URSELF A FARMER AND TRANFER TO URSELF. ...i think this idea sums up the very same reason i started this post for.
The point here is to have fun with ur main char, whatever class it is, and if u feel like u own in ur class, u can set one day to gather all of ur same class and fight eachother to find out who is the best (making a hero shout or a post in forum)...i think thats the point of oly isnt it? Thats why i suggested class based.

dude i didn't say i had lag.. u won and imo is normal atm with this atk speed and the other sh1ts that a he/pp won a he/wk and imagine u were just 1 crit away to lose so shu shu...if u wanna talk about oly i will join with the other char i play that has some buffs...
maybe u were a good archer before when most of archers didn't have your equip but now u are just another sucky dude with icarus and dyna that can't do sh1t.. u know that players are not like chimeras...
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: Sifacil on October 12, 2009, 04:01:47 PM
so much hate...

See..well..if u feel like u can own me that easy now, u can aid my cause and reinstall class based, so when u see me tranfering with my 50 HE nobless u can join with ur buffed archer and pwn me like a little b1tch.
I know u will have wet dreams with that thought..
If u see it like this, u will find out my idea is good.

And btw, about altheo, i know him before epic, i didnt asked him for hero, neither payed him to get it. He offerd to me. And another thing...im not in Epic anymore.
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: cofo on October 12, 2009, 04:32:54 PM
yeah allow pots and make warrior/mage bane totally useless :D

there always will be some farmer classes and removing stack subs won't solve the problem.
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: TomekAlmighty on October 12, 2009, 04:37:27 PM
Haha, it sure was fun to see the face of Morwen when he saw me in class based infront of him instead of his bots xD

The idea of bringing class based back is not bad, but it would be good if there would be a global system messege when someone would join class based  (ex: Sifacil, tomekalmighty, gfngdgf, rierutiutre, iezeruzhr have joined PP class based oly games, you have 2 minutes remaining time to particiapte) so people could go and also participate, so transfering with bots would be harder... :)
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: cthon on October 12, 2009, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: Sifacil on October 12, 2009, 04:01:47 PM
so much hate...

See..well..if u feel like u can own me that easy now, u can aid my cause and reinstall class based, so when u see me tranfering with my 50 HE nobless u can join with ur buffed archer and pwn me like a little b1tch.
I know u will have wet dreams with that thought..
If u see it like this, u will find out my idea is good.

And btw, about altheo, i know him before epic, i didnt asked him for hero, neither payed him to get it. He offerd to me. And another thing...im not in Epic anymore.

no hate here... u got me totally wrong and playing bad ass doesn't fit u at all... go back to chimeras imo..
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: cristianvernal on October 12, 2009, 06:41:00 PM
Quote from: Deavon on October 12, 2009, 01:33:54 PM
You got over 10 HE nooblessed dont you? xD

Tho by reading ur topic another idea came up =O

Make oly like this : Archer vs archers only ,mages vs mages ,support vs support , tanks vs tanks , etc vs etc .

Like this the best combination and skilled wins ,end of story all happy? O;

if i recall correctly, when sifa logged (and we help him) the archers, we had a lot of fun watching sifa killing all the wannabe good archers... imo that can happend on all classes...




im gettin sick of high on sky wannabe pro archer acknowledged on server ego.... like 1 2 secs ur ego rised so much... not cool.(meaning cthon ofc)
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: Sifacil on October 12, 2009, 08:32:09 PM
Lol, dont worry, let them go on playing this shitty system asking/begging/suckingballs for oly points. They seem to love it.
Ill go back to chimeras, others can go log naked bots and have fun.
GG
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: our4n0s on October 12, 2009, 08:59:21 PM
Quote from: Sifacil on October 12, 2009, 06:07:55 AM


1- Is pretty obvious that nerfing is not the way, because at the end it only unbalance things more, and u enter an endless nerfing weel  that never ends.

wheel

Joining oly and getting hero, the idea is about joining olympiad on your main char and see how you're doing in there ..  hence, no to classbase, even there a farmer would come up anyway, rest ~~ i don't care tbh, wanna save oly ? delete augments is the biggest step .

rofl, i just thought about it and i ll say it only cuz i know it wont be done, wanna save olympiad ? remove the bogs reward XD
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: our4n0s on October 12, 2009, 09:07:28 PM
Quote from: cthon on October 12, 2009, 01:44:47 PM
so let me get it right here... u can't be hero anymore cause altheo left Epic tho u didn't like it cause u had to give the bogs back so now u want to be hero with trasnfer in bassed like u did before...
great idea imo... +1
neah he was keeping bogs
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: Sifacil on October 12, 2009, 09:23:46 PM
Quote from: our4n0s on October 12, 2009, 09:07:28 PM
neah he was keeping bogs

TOLD U!!!
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: our4n0s on October 12, 2009, 10:14:09 PM
tbh, you give way too much importance to oly, want to make the server alive? make godar pvp zone like olddd days <333333333333333333333333333333333333333 i would love it so much, make events, make skills working, lower the respawn time of RBs (and decrease their drop rate if needed, w/e)
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: zthrx on October 12, 2009, 10:21:45 PM
whats the point of playing on server for new players where every old (farmer) player is feeded as hell with bogs and top items.
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: Furesy on October 12, 2009, 10:27:32 PM
Quote from: zthrx on October 12, 2009, 10:21:45 PM
whats the point of playing on server for new players where every old (farmer) player is feeded as hell with bogs and top items.
You really think NCSoft gives a rats ass about that on their official server?

You can't do nothing against that lol, old players will always have advantage over new players.
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: ohaem on October 12, 2009, 10:44:07 PM
hmm imo fair way to play at oly... class based? sure but only 1 char 1 IP but yea to much coding ^^ imo next solution is when u participate u can use only skills from class u signed example if u bd/se and u join oly on se u have only se skills and imo it can be fair all can take some buffs from  olympiad npc... in other things it cant be fair
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: our4n0s on October 12, 2009, 11:02:17 PM
make class based 1 day 1 class enable this way ppl wont have to wait everyday to make sure noone transfer, it ll be like 15th of july HE ... 12th es... etc
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: WindPhoenix on October 12, 2009, 11:10:15 PM
Quote from: our4n0s on October 12, 2009, 11:02:17 PM
make class based 1 day 1 class enable this way ppl wont have to wait everyday to make sure noone transfer, it ll be like 15th of july HE ... 12th es... etc
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6743/nito.png)
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: our4n0s on October 13, 2009, 09:54:29 AM
Quote from: WindPhoenix on October 12, 2009, 11:10:15 PM
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6743/nito.png)
where's the bond?
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: scary on October 13, 2009, 01:35:10 PM
Quote from: cristianvernal on October 12, 2009, 06:41:00 PM

im gettin sick of high on sky wannabe pro archer acknowledged on server ego.... like 1 2 secs ur ego rised so much... not cool.(meaning cthon ofc)

going  to say the same ! :D
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: NiToPaMi on October 13, 2009, 01:51:48 PM
Quote from: Sifacil on October 12, 2009, 06:07:55 AM
Ok..im retired from forum activity, but anyway, i took some time thinking about what to do with olympiad to make it better for everyone. As i see now, theres been 2 years of this system and we can come to these conclusion: Olympiad turned into a maffia thing, and the big farmers control it and decide who gets hero and who doesent (even charging ppl in coins for getting hero). Imo thats not the point of olympiad, but to have fun and decide who is the best in each class...now is about who is friend of who or who has more bots or who pays more. Im not against anyone here, as everybody knows, i been around for long time and i pretty know every old player of the server, so my intention here is not to attack anyone, but just add my 2 cents and try to make a better server to everyone.

Ok now, the systems got so corrupted that the only way to get hero if ure not a farmer is to log a lot of bots and pray to not get a farmer when u enter. So imo theres no fun at all with that, and it only adds more fortune to the farmers who get the naked bots that ppl logs to tranfer and get points for free.
Everybody knows that 90% of the classes now are not meant for oly, and they have really low chances of getting hero by themselves, so they eventually have to make a deal with farmers to get hero stat.

Now the ideas...

1- Is pretty obvious that nerfing is not the way, because at the end it only unbalance things more, and u enter an endless nerfing weel that never ends.

2- Re installing Class based games: I know, it was used to tranfer in the past, but hey..whats the difference with now? I will tell u..the difference was that in class based at least more ppl got bogs,and not only farmers, it needed some clan work and it was pretty fun when u spoted ppl tranfering, u enter with ur pro "w/e" and try to stop tranfering by killing them. It was plain more fair than now since at least if u won, u could say that u was the best in that class. Myself used to make hero shouts when i was about to make class based inviting other Saggitarious to try to defeat me...and trust me it was a hard adrenalline rush to fight others like me..i mean...at least was some kind of fair fight.

3-Allow pot usage. This is not the best idea i came up with, but hey its smth, at least it will stop the mana burn cryes. and fighters will have more chances to win a fight vs mages, even mages know that pro mana burners are just impossible to defeat.

---------------------------

Guys, im not intended to start a fight or a debate, i gave my opinion as an old player that wants to have a little bit of fun in a server that gets less and less ppl. I can understand that gms, and coders have a life and cant be all day changing our dypers and we have to come up with smth to make server more attractive to new comers, or for old players that wanna come back.
I spoke with lots of ppl in the server about what to do to improve oly a bit, and i only get "freak oly" or "nerf mana burn"...and u know..thats not a solution, thats a drawback.

I hope my opinion worth smth.

<3
Sifa
talk about old things is enought ...olympiad fights is so much coruptet people start donate euros to be like this .. so dont have to lost nothing if i change game for smth new and w8 some time for solve problems in nm server .fun is lost before 2 monts.talk and write to this forum is only wasted times.sorry for my bad eng but im 100% sure people will understand :D
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: Deavon on October 13, 2009, 03:04:23 PM
Quote from: NiToPaMi on October 13, 2009, 01:51:48 PM
sorry for my bad eng but im 100% sure people will understand :D

Dont be so sure lol
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: flamingAwe on October 13, 2009, 03:49:49 PM
Quote from: Kikolina on October 13, 2009, 03:40:32 PM

i d focus more on inventing an algorithm that would calculate points somehow out of wins / loses / matches played, if lost match will count something, feeders wont be "sharing" them so easily... + "noob" chars will have bigger chances to become a hero


- <char>
  <name>Torgen</name>
  <level>81</level>
  <class>DUELIST</class>
  <clan>PrzyjacieleZubra</clan>
  <points>51</points>
  <match_count>15</match_count>
  <match_won_count>12</match_won_count>
  <match_lost_count>3</match_lost_count>
  </char>
- <char>

<char>
  <name>alarota</name>
  <level>79</level>
  <class>TRICKSTER</class>
  <clan>Intocables</clan>
  <points>48</points>
  <match_count>15</match_count>
  <match_won_count>14</match_won_count>
  <match_lost_count>1</match_lost_count>
  </char>


and alike with 12/3, 14/1, 15/0 ratios will be heroes? xD
PS:above characters are chosen only as example
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: zthrx on October 13, 2009, 04:46:25 PM
Quote from: Furesy on October 12, 2009, 10:27:32 PM
You really think NCSoft gives a rats ass about that on their official server?

You can't do nothing against that lol, old players will always have advantage over new players.

I hadn't on my mind you or me, I have enough. I was talking about faken farmers using every possibility to farm to the max, exploit, and get as much as they can without thinking about others- golka camping, oly farmers etc. Server is empty? rly? just because you killed it no1 else, no1 else, (everywhere ubiquitous arrogance),  selfish pathetic losers ala:
"if you wanna farm make a farm char".
"if you wanna own, make own char"
"archers crit ass, so make archer too"
when I read this pathetic shiit I wanna puke. I preffer launch another game or xbox and do what I want. Not to do a lame shiit to "get smth" in this game...

finally I'm bored to back for good when I see all those losers "seling hero", selling tons of books. freak me wipe this shiit- you couldn't make this server worst. Hope all farmers will enjoy to sell items/books each other when will you left just a few on serv.
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: Dag on October 13, 2009, 05:33:59 PM
mh...i lost the link to see oly point

reshare pls?
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: our4n0s on October 13, 2009, 06:04:58 PM
Quote from: Dag on October 13, 2009, 05:33:59 PM
mh...i lost the link to see oly point

reshare pls?
http://dragon-network.net/xml/nightmare/olympiad.xml
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: Dag on October 13, 2009, 06:46:21 PM
really tnx
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: Sifacil on October 13, 2009, 06:53:18 PM
There wont be a system 100% fair for everyone, my point in doing class based was to allow weaker classes to fight against eachother to get some good action fights, much better than deloging bots, but i dont understand why ppl cant see that, is not about tranfer is about getting better fights and letting all the classes have some fun in oly.
The idea of class based, beside the fact that is cool imo, its a simple solution for lazy coders that cant even fix a sin eater, just rename oldoly.bak to fukedoly.db and pronto, not much thinking involved, much more simple than coding a whole new single class oly (that involves lots of thinking and coding) or a complicated algorith to re calculate points.
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: flamingAwe on October 13, 2009, 07:21:48 PM
Quote from: Sifacil on October 13, 2009, 06:53:18 PM
There wont be a system 100% fair for everyone, my point in doing class based was to allow weaker classes to fight against eachother to get some good action fights, much better than deloging bots, but i dont understand why ppl cant see that, is not about tranfer is about getting better fights and letting all the classes have some fun in oly.
The idea of class based, beside the fact that is cool imo, its a simple solution for lazy coders that cant even fix a sin eater, just rename oldoly.bak to fukedoly.db and pronto, not much thinking involved, much more simple than coding a whole new single class oly (that involves lots of thinking and coding) or a complicated algorith to re calculate points.


when ppl ask for class based, i just wonder do they want, for example sps/ee, sps/sws, ee/tk classes, or single classes so for example sps/ee will meet sps/tk on sps stats and then meet ee/tk on EE stats? (CLASSES ARE JUST FOR EXAMPLE, NOT MEANING ANYONE PLAYS THEM AT ALL)
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: Dag on October 14, 2009, 08:57:20 PM
i think about class based simply as....  the class u are playn vs the class enemy play
so SPS/ee vs  SPS/tk

or TH/wk vs TH/pp


other solution should be as
type based

one just for fighter and one just for mage stat
so...
pal/pp vs ty/ol

and

sh/bd vs bp/wk
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: cristianvernal on October 14, 2009, 09:03:43 PM
Quote from: Dag on October 14, 2009, 08:57:20 PM
i think about class based simply as....  the class u are playn vs the class enemy play
so SPS/ee vs  SPS/tk

or TH/wk vs TH/pp


other solution should be as
type based

one just for fighter and one just for mage stat
so...
pal/pp vs ty/ol

and

sh/bd vs bp/wk


not good examples... xd

just class bassed ppl, we dont need that much coding to have fun...
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: WindPhoenix on October 14, 2009, 10:07:56 PM
Quote from: our4n0s on October 13, 2009, 06:04:58 PM
http://dragon-network.net/xml/nightmare/olympiad.xml
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/flash/466_horse3.swf
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: ballberith on October 15, 2009, 01:15:18 AM
Quote from: WindPhoenix on October 14, 2009, 10:07:56 PM
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/flash/466_horse3.swf
This is mind blowing :D
Title: Re: Oly solution
Post by: cristianvernal on October 19, 2009, 04:53:17 AM
lets go back to topic mengs, we need this!