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Title: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: sziii on December 10, 2009, 10:53:53 PM
I would like to see what u think about it. There are chars with long reuse to main skills,it makes them unplayable for olympiad. In my opinion it could be good change for our server.
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: M3tta on December 10, 2009, 11:09:12 PM
how about add ud,ue,cubics and transfer pain to ty/de?

thats bullshit. want ur char to have fast reuses - do another char.
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: PainMaster on December 10, 2009, 11:22:16 PM
Quote from: M3tta on December 10, 2009, 11:09:12 PM
how about add ud,ue,cubics and transfer pain to ty/de?

thats bullshit. want ur char to have fast reuses - do another char.

1st he didnt say nothink about himself
2nd  +1 szi
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: M3tta on December 10, 2009, 11:27:54 PM
if he didnt mind himself then why would he create such a moronish topic? if ppl which in name he talks cant speak for themselves they shouldnt get anything.
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Triuferkkk on December 11, 2009, 12:27:06 AM
Quote from: M3tta on December 10, 2009, 11:27:54 PM
if he didnt mind himself then why would he create such a moronish topic? if ppl which in name he talks cant speak for themselves they shouldnt get anything.
cuz he wants to ask what ppl think about it
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: our4n0s on December 11, 2009, 02:17:06 AM
tbh 'even' tho my biggest reuse is 1 min, i agree
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: qwertyzxc on December 11, 2009, 02:17:14 AM
Quote from: sziii on December 10, 2009, 10:53:53 PM
I would like to see what u think about it. There are chars with long reuse to main skills,it makes them unplayable for olympiad. In my opinion it could be good change for our server.


yea for example nabish sps/ee no need w8 for skils and hit with 2809218 damage all and ty/des need w8 like 10-15 min for skils  after he got pwnd by full hp at start

+1
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Neozinhu on December 11, 2009, 03:14:27 AM
ignoring the stupid posts ... +1 to szi...


(i'm thinking in back to server tbh...will begin my vacation time =X)


Coming  to take ES hero back :O   I'm kidding LawL!!!
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: our4n0s on December 11, 2009, 03:15:07 AM
Globally, the best effect is more people ready to sign, less time to wait, more entertaining olympiads
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Neozinhu on December 11, 2009, 03:18:39 AM
Quote from: our4n0s on December 11, 2009, 03:15:07 AM
Globally, the best effect is more people ready to sign, less time to wait, more entertaining olympiads
How many different ppl fight oly actually?


Last time that i saw... U / Draks and Kazimira....the rest were some bots...or alternative chars to make feeded heros


Ps.: Sry for all those "..." , its an habit
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: our4n0s on December 11, 2009, 03:23:41 AM
Quote from: Neozinhu on December 11, 2009, 03:18:39 AM
How many different ppl fight oly actually?


Last time that i saw... U / Draks and Kazimira....the rest were some bots...or alternative chars to make feeded heros


Ps.: Sry for all those "..." , its an habit
last time you watched was a while ago, now it's draks, me, sps/ee, random combos that survived
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Danilo on December 11, 2009, 03:52:25 AM
Quote from: sziii on December 10, 2009, 10:53:53 PM
I would like to see what u think about it. There are chars with long reuse to main skills,it makes them unplayable for olympiad. In my opinion it could be good change for our server.

+1
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: trooperXkoki on December 11, 2009, 08:52:01 AM
Quote from: Neozinhu on December 11, 2009, 03:18:39 AM
How many different ppl fight oly actually?


Last time that i saw... U / Draks and Kazimira....the rest were some bots...or alternative chars to make feeded heros


Ps.: Sry for all those "..." , its an habit
altheo and kazimira went on infinity, dnt play on nm anymore
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Un4givenII on December 11, 2009, 10:56:29 AM
As a ty/wc i agree with skills reuse should be 0 only after u exit the Oly, for faster skills reuse i have to make relogs, use some of my skills to have bigger atack speed/cast in order to activate skills.
As some1 else said yes it would be funnier to have more ppls at oly, doesnt matter who are they.

+1 for topic
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Neozinhu on December 11, 2009, 03:15:35 PM
Quote from: our4n0s on December 11, 2009, 03:23:41 AM
last time you watched was a while ago, now it's draks, me, sps/ee, random combos that survived
Some months tbh :P

Quote from: Un4givenII on December 11, 2009, 10:56:29 AM
As some1 else said yes it would be funnier to have more ppls at oly, doesnt matter who are they.



Would be cool one "equip limit" like on the pvp events...Max S grade (no DN/Dynasty armors) for example...

(Someone will flame me...but w/e =X)
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Sephiroth on December 11, 2009, 03:25:51 PM
So what?
Will we see UD/Vengeance/SOF/FSs skills in every single fight? Is that what u want? It's ur problem if ur class got high reuse in Oly,make another one like EE/SPS or TH/PP...
Just think a lil'bout that...
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Neozinhu on December 11, 2009, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: Sephiroth on December 11, 2009, 03:25:51 PM
So what?
Will we see UD/Vengeance/SOF/FSs skills in every single fight? Is that what u want? It's ur problem if ur class got high reuse in Oly,make another one like EE/SPS or TH/PP...
Just think a lil'bout that...


tbh...this high reuse is one of the causes of have always the same classes at oly...why one glad/da (for example) would join...if he'll need to w8 5 min to fight again...while one SPS/EE can join w/o w8 for anything?... if u know how to win them...u can do it with them using UD/vengence, etc.


Ps.: I know that my english is sux
Ps².: I have one SPS/EE...but i personally dont like to win a fight bcuz the other player haven't a Skill Rdy..
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: MyMind on December 11, 2009, 05:06:33 PM
Quote from: Sephiroth on December 11, 2009, 03:25:51 PM
So what?
Will we see UD/Vengeance/SOF/FSs skills in every single fight? Is that what u want? It's ur problem if ur class got high reuse in Oly,make another one like EE/SPS or TH/PP...
Just think a lil'bout that...
I disagree bout this, it`s cooler to have a lot of different classes at oly not just those standart subs
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: jygh on December 11, 2009, 05:13:16 PM
Quote from: Sephiroth on December 11, 2009, 03:25:51 PM
So what?
Will we see UD/Vengeance/SOF/FSs skills in every single fight? Is that what u want? It's ur problem if ur class got high reuse in Oly,make another one like EE/SPS or TH/PP...
Just think a lil'bout that...
they ll join anyway so what is the difference iff they ll join in 1 m inut than 20 minut ?? for me skills should be rdy after oly fights :P iff i remember well there was a topic alrdy in c4 about it :P they made oly without augument so im sure they can make oly with skill reuse :P
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Alex on December 11, 2009, 05:17:29 PM
There is an easy soultion for that case: just make a buff containing song of champion/renewal and blessing of sagittarius when u are teleported to stadium. Make buff's time 45 sec so it will be over before match starts.

It wont completely remove re-use but will make it much faster for some classes.
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Sephiroth on December 11, 2009, 05:27:32 PM
Sooner or later u'll cry'bout tanks,about the FSs,and so...

Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Weezer on December 11, 2009, 05:29:55 PM
Quote from: Alex on December 11, 2009, 05:17:29 PM
There is an easy soultion for that case: just make a buff containing song of champion/renewal and blessing of sagittarius when u are teleported to stadium. Make buff's time 45 sec so it will be over before match starts.

It wont completely remove re-use but will make it much faster for some classes.

This can solve problems for using buffs that take long reuse, but not problem about most skills reuse, cause u will use UD (for example) in the middle of battle, not during time u use to buff.
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Furesy on December 11, 2009, 06:35:00 PM
Add option to oly manager to re-use skills for adena, like pay 10kk for all skills re-used.

Those who need it will pay, will cost em a lil adena, less adena on server, everybody happy.
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: GALDAFgr on December 11, 2009, 08:09:24 PM
agree with szi.. i think is stupid for someone  to w8 20 mins to rejoin oly...
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: PainMaster on December 11, 2009, 08:10:24 PM
Quote from: M3tta on December 10, 2009, 11:27:54 PM
if he didnt mind himself then why would he create such a moronish topic? if ppl which in name he talks cant speak for themselves they shouldnt get anything.

stop smoke  that shit...

Quote from: Ungolianth on December 11, 2009, 06:32:59 PM
3rd asslicking spoted :d

why should i if i dont play here any longer ?

Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Endorama on December 11, 2009, 11:05:39 PM
would be cool imo
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: FckMeImFamous on December 12, 2009, 12:54:48 AM
Quote from: GALDAFgr on December 11, 2009, 08:09:24 PM
agree with szi.. i think is stupid for someone  to w8 20 mins to rejoin oly...

same here...!
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Scream on December 12, 2009, 02:40:50 PM
Quote from: Sephiroth on December 11, 2009, 03:25:51 PM
So what?
Will we see UD/Vengeance/SOF/FSs skills in every single fight? Is that what u want? It's ur problem if ur class got high reuse in Oly,make another one like EE/SPS or TH/PP...
Just think a lil'bout that...
i remember when i was playing ... when i ever used Revival that would mean "wait for EVER" for this skill reuse.. plus what if u finished ur olympiad game and went out of the town to a pvp area and wanted to help out ur clan/friends or whatever? and yes why cant we see UD/Vengence/SOF ... in oly every game..that would be fair cuz everyone has the right to use his ultimate skill every 1 single fight.. iam not crying cuz iam not even playing or u just cant pwn someone w/o him missing a skill?
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Sephiroth on December 12, 2009, 03:12:07 PM
Quote from: Scream on December 12, 2009, 02:40:50 PM
i remember when i was playing ... when i ever used Revival that would mean "wait for EVER" for this skill reuse.. plus what if u finished ur olympiad game and went out of the town to a pvp area and wanted to help out ur clan/friends or whatever? and yes why cant we see UD/Vengence/SOF ... in oly every game..that would be fair cuz everyone has the right to use his ultimate skill every 1 single fight.. iam not crying cuz iam not even playing or u just cant pwn someone w/o him missing a skill?

Is the last phrase a try of flame? lol
As I said,sooner or later if u've got the skills ready for every fight we'll see ppl QQing cos of FSs and Tanks.And no,it's not'bout if it's fair or not,every char has it own use in L2,and Tanks were made to tank,daggers to be unbeatable in a close range,archers to kite and crit hard,and so on.
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Mohit0 on December 12, 2009, 07:16:34 PM
just  bullshit
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: trooperXkoki on December 12, 2009, 07:47:10 PM
Quote from: Mohit0 on December 12, 2009, 07:16:34 PM
just  bullshit
mmmmmmm sound good...myb i ll eat em  :-*
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: sziii on December 12, 2009, 09:24:47 PM
ppl who telling me here "make new char" should think again, maybe its the reason why they will never learn to play. Every char have weak point. Problem is that skills are not rdy to use, and u have to w8 long time is SERVER weakpoint and We as community of this ... nightmare have to make it better. I dont care about me, its about all players with zealot,ud,vengence and all skill with long reuse. Dont be afraid that those chars will own u harder coz it will not change them. We want to make Nightmares olympiad more playable.
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: M3tta on December 12, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
the whole idea could be quite good but when i said its bullshit i meant... if u change reuses it wont just affect oly fights. it would be a huuuuuge boost for classes like tanks etc... sounds pretty unfair imo. furesy's idea is nice.
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Neozinhu on December 13, 2009, 03:29:17 AM
Quote from: M3tta on December 12, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
the whole idea could be quite good but when i said its bullshit i meant... if u change reuses it wont just affect oly fights. it would be a huuuuuge boost for classes like tanks etc... sounds pretty unfair imo. furesy's idea is nice.
i think that szi is trying to say smth like this... "when fight ends...remove buff and all skills be rdy to use again"...not to decrease permanently (dunno if this word is right) the cooldown..
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: our4n0s on December 13, 2009, 03:52:05 AM
Quote from: M3tta on December 12, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
the whole idea could be quite good but when i said its bullshit i meant... if u change reuses it wont just affect oly fights. it would be a huuuuuge boost for classes like tanks etc... sounds pretty unfair imo. furesy's idea is nice.
then you are freaking retarded, because everyone else had understood.
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: sziii on December 13, 2009, 12:26:19 PM
skills rdy to use after oly fight is easy to understand. It could be fair becouse it dont bring any boost on any char, just make olympiad playable since daggers and mages got boosted and in my opinion, with all forgeoten scrolls, overpowered vs orc&tank char type.
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: flamingAwe on December 13, 2009, 12:44:26 PM
this kind of topic exists since long times.
but funny thing is, noone made such topics, when HP was not restored on oly match start
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: sziii on December 13, 2009, 01:53:15 PM
Truth is that de/tyrant never was so weak like now in olympiad. I dont ask for boost on char, but since daggers and mages got boosted it could be nice to join oly like they can.
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: WscieklyWaz on December 13, 2009, 02:09:42 PM
Quote from: sziii on December 13, 2009, 01:53:15 PM
Truth is that de/tyrant never was so weak like now in olympiad. I dont ask for boost on char, but since daggers and mages got boosted it could be nice to join oly like they can.

You should consider changing it play style. Now blunt + bizon+rage+frenzy+zealot and clicking next target + attack inst enough. Little help, use tyrant potencial... its glad in orc skin ;)
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: WscieklyWaz on December 13, 2009, 02:14:00 PM
Quote from: sziii on December 13, 2009, 12:26:19 PM
skills rdy to use after oly fight is easy to understand. It could be fair becouse it dont bring any boost on any char, just make olympiad playable since daggers and mages got boosted and in my opinion, with all forgeoten scrolls, overpowered vs orc&tank char type.

actually it would, ppl could use all skills, even that with very long reuse, in every fight, like blessing of eva, shield of faith etc. Now ppl have 2 options wait or if they wanna fight go in without that superb skills ready. And many of that skills make big difference.
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: sziii on December 13, 2009, 03:13:18 PM
U should try to play in oly with de/tyr before u give advice how to play, or just look at fight we make now. I use every thing is possible to win but when i have to w8 15min to enter again there is 1 option: logout and do something else. Is it good? maybe for ppl who done like me, but its about whole server and players who leave Nightmare becouse there is no progress. If u dont like this idea, just say it, give concrete here.
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: Furesy on December 13, 2009, 03:14:03 PM
Olympiad on DN is only for SPS/EE now anyway lol
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: our4n0s on December 13, 2009, 06:33:12 PM
Quote from: WscieklyWaz on December 13, 2009, 02:09:42 PM
You should consider changing it play style. Now blunt + bizon+rage+frenzy+zealot and clicking next target + attack inst enough. Little help, use tyrant potencial... its glad in orc skin ;)
funny to see you acting smart ass, you're shit
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: horass on December 16, 2009, 02:35:08 AM
bump
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: FckMeImFamous on December 16, 2009, 08:11:43 AM
Bump from meh!   :-*
Title: Re: Skills rdy to use after olympiad fight
Post by: our4n0s on December 17, 2009, 09:14:42 PM
Quote from: Ungolianth on December 17, 2009, 07:14:08 PM
nice sig but once again look on my sig and u will feel silly  ::)
he actually made his sig alone, he created Lette on some other server  8)