me on full buffs on 11631 m att lvl 9 dark attribute on weapon (not full aka 450+) hitting necro (Boe) -with 2 parts of his set holy resist lvl 9 + divine buff + unholy resist- for 570.
voudas69 with same buffs 8921 m att , lvl 6 dark attribute on weapon hitting Boe for SAME dmg 570... we got like 3k dif in m att and we hit the same ... how the hell is that possible...
we test with non attribute weapon (am +1) and there was dmg dif . but with our s80 attribute weapons there was no difference at all even if i had 3k more m att...
our attribute system is facked up ffs
so who's nerfed now? :-*
Quote from: lucifsg on February 13, 2010, 10:35:39 PM
me on full buffs on 11631 m att lvl 9 dark attribute on weapon (not full aka 450+) hitting necro (Boe) -with 2 parts of his set holy resist lvl 9 + divine buff + unholy resist- for 570.
voudas69 with same buffs 8921 m att , lvl 6 dark attribute on weapon hitting Boe for SAME dmg 570... we got like 3k dif in m att and we hit the same ... how the hell is that possible...
we test with non attribute weapon (am +1) and there was dmg dif . but with our s80 attribute weapons there was no difference at all even if i had 3k more m att...
our attribute system is facked up ffs
give me back our blow attribute and our boost and i give u back ur HIGHT damage mr. cryers
Quote from: seboulba on February 13, 2010, 10:49:14 PM
give me back our blow attribute and our boost and i give u back ur HIGHT damage mr. cryers
did u even read the topic ? im talking about m att dif but no effect in pvp ...
Some screens would help , tho its wrong section .
Must suck to have wasted so much money on such a weapon then to see it makes no difference :P
ALL FINE WORKS FOR ME " "
Quote from: Kain on February 14, 2010, 12:36:56 AM
Some screens would help , tho its wrong section .
have to be screens from 3 dif ppl but ok i ll make it.
Quote from: G4rro on February 14, 2010, 11:35:06 AM
nerf all chars , who arent with nick lucifsg imo , then he will stop crying here i think .
btw i noticed yesterday that Elemental protection give all resist agains attribute BUT give -10 on Dark why ? :)
Quote from: seboulba on February 14, 2010, 11:38:48 AM
btw i noticed yesterday that Elemental protection give all resist agains attribute BUT give -10 on Dark why ? :)
Elemental Protection doesn't work at all how it supposed to anyway :P
As far as I know, It should give +20 vs Wind/Earth/Water and +30 vs fire.
At the moment it gives +30 vs Wind/Earth/Fire, +20 vs Water and -10 vs dark? xD
Quote from: Furesy on February 14, 2010, 12:03:51 PM
and -10 vs dark? xD
new nerf on NM?
tested right now on infi. dosn't give any "-" only +30 water/fire/wind and +20 earth
Quote from: flamingAwe on February 14, 2010, 12:17:24 PM
new nerf on NM?
tested right now on infi. dosn't give any "-" only +30 water/fire/wind and +20 earth
luci payed for this :D j/king
Quote from: flamingAwe on February 14, 2010, 12:17:24 PM
new nerf on NM?
tested right now on infi. dosn't give any "-" only +30 water/fire/wind and +20 earth
Just tested on Dragon, works the same there, though it shouldn't give that as far as I know ^_-
Would test on NM, but damn server is down again lol
WHo`s da chitor ?
Quote from: G4rro on February 14, 2010, 11:35:06 AM
nerf all chars , who arent with nick lucifsg imo , then he will stop crying here i think .
loled XD nice one but it doesnt have to do with crying buddy. a char with dyna +3 cant hit the same with icarus +8 just cause attri system is messed
Quote from: Furesy on February 14, 2010, 12:03:51 PM
Elemental Protection doesn't work at all how it supposed to anyway :P
As far as I know, It should give +20 vs Wind/Earth/Water and +30 vs fire.
At the moment it gives +30 vs Wind/Earth/Fire, +20 vs Water and -10 vs dark? xD
didnt notice that. but why +30 to fire and not same for all 4 elements...?
the offi works like this... and here is edited to help the poor sps/ee... nerf is soo sad :'(
Quote from: lucifsg on February 14, 2010, 09:51:09 PM
didnt notice that. but why +30 to fire and not same for all 4 elements...?
Thats actually the official stats.... Ask NCsoft why.
Quote from: Ungolianth on February 14, 2010, 11:58:56 PM
u know that here is many thingd custom so we could have also custom atribute resists...tbh tell me reason why should be sorcerers discriminated
Coz even NCSoft know that you and your pathetic sorceror sux hard :P
Quote from: Ungolianth on February 14, 2010, 11:58:56 PM
u know that here is many thingd custom so we could have also custom atribute resists...tbh tell me reason why should be sorcerers discriminated
the answer lies here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ZYKSDbwQE
can pls talk about the topic and not about the elemental protection ? go make post about elemental protection go cry somewhere alse...
right here we try to explain u that some one can make same dmg with his m atk like one with less m atk....
does this sound fair to u ??? its not about donate its not about crying nerfs boost its about the ballance....
some ppl make set up for m atk and its a waste with this bug....
if u think its not a bug explain it or make a freaking question about that for more info or ffs stop being a RR posting offtopic shit....
admins dont have to ready ur stupid awnsers every time in a seirious post...
ye, imo sux that a nuker with cancel (bane), slow (mass slow), vampiric nukes, pack of great debuffs (tho noobs usually dont use them) has also a summon with transfer pain and he deals same damage or even more than other nukers who dont even have transfer pain/bane/vampirics also curse gloom has obvious advantage over surrender debuffs
should do smth with that indeed.
Quote from: Alex on February 16, 2010, 12:13:41 AM
ye, imo sux that a nuker with cancel (bane), slow (mass slow), vampiric nukes, pack of great debuffs (tho noobs usually dont use them) has also a summon with transfer pain and he deals same damage or even more than other nukers who dont even have transfer pain/bane/vampirics also curse gloom has obvious advantage over surrender debuffs
should do smth with that indeed.
for this make a cry topic in ncsoft....
Quote from: voudas69 on February 16, 2010, 12:38:31 AM
for this make a cry topic in ncsoft....
NCSoft already fixed that, just need happen on DN also !
Quote from: Alex on February 16, 2010, 12:13:41 AM
ye, imo sux that a nuker with cancel (bane), slow (mass slow), vampiric nukes, pack of great debuffs (tho noobs usually dont use them) has also a summon with transfer pain and he deals same damage or even more than other nukers who dont even have transfer pain/bane/vampirics also curse gloom has obvious advantage over surrender debuffs
should do smth with that indeed.
we dont use em cause they dont matter . whats the point of using fear when it never lands lol, same as mass slow. the vampirc attack gives back sh1t hp
and the pet dies in 2 hits. the bane is useless here due to potions.
what should be done is protections fs opening on imunity
as topic now says , tnx for fixing , we test it again today works as it should
Quote from: Furesy on February 16, 2010, 12:42:42 AM
NCSoft already fixed that, just need happen on DN also !
what exacly did they fix coz i dont play on official.... is necro`s do less dmg than sorcerors ? is the power of death spike less than a spellhowler ?
Quote from: voudas69 on February 16, 2010, 01:16:13 AM
what exacly did they fix coz i dont play on official.... is necro`s do less dmg than sorcerors ? is the power of death spike less than a spellhowler ?
dude, cut the smartass attitude, it doesn't work with people that actually use their grey matter.
If you want damage per simple nuke (aka f1 char) go for an elemental mage (SH, SPS, Sorc). A necro is not and will never be, or it SHOULD never be a NUKER. It is a char that curses, that summons various undead servants and so on. kk got it?
you already have enough power as it is on Nightmare due to stacking skills, years of farming and daddy's cash. enjoy it and stop dreaming about the day you will oneshot everyone.
Quote from: WindPhoenix on February 16, 2010, 02:16:04 AM
dude, cut the smartass attitude, it doesn't work with people that actually use their grey matter.
If you want damage per simple nuke (aka f1 char) go for an elemental mage (SH, SPS, Sorc). A necro is not and will never be, or it SHOULD never be a NUKER. It is a char that curses, that summons various undead servants and so on. kk got it?
you already have enough power as it is on Nightmare due to stacking skills, years of farming and daddy's cash. enjoy it and stop dreaming about the day you will oneshot everyone.
what's the deal with your flying chair signatures? :D
Quote from: Ashlynn on February 16, 2010, 02:21:37 AM
what's the deal with your flying chair signatures? :D
it shows my l33tness, unlike Voudas' damage :D
Quote from: WindPhoenix on February 16, 2010, 02:22:25 AM
it shows my l33tness, unlike Voudas' damage :D
well it sure is unique and epic, but I wouldn't call it 1337 :D
Quote from: Ashlynn on February 16, 2010, 02:23:11 AM
well it sure is unique and epic, but I wouldn't call it 1337 :D
well, it was sarcasm >.>
i just find the pic funny ;D
Quote from: WindPhoenix on February 16, 2010, 02:24:16 AM
well, it was sarcasm >.>
i just find the pic funny ;D
ye, it is such a nonsense it is funny :D
Quote from: WindPhoenix on February 16, 2010, 02:16:04 AM
dude, cut the smartass attitude, it doesn't work with people that actually use their grey matter.
If you want damage per simple nuke (aka f1 char) go for an elemental mage (SH, SPS, Sorc). A necro is not and will never be, or it SHOULD never be a NUKER. It is a char that curses, that summons various undead servants and so on. kk got it?
you already have enough power as it is on Nightmare due to stacking skills, years of farming and daddy's cash. enjoy it and stop dreaming about the day you will oneshot everyone.
why do u blabla so much on forums saying ur opinion about game since u dont play ? we know we r not nukers morron we never asked for nukes. all we say is that if hydroblast has 117 power and deathspike 117 they should hit the same nomatter if i have pet and tranfer pain or not. thats how ncsoft made it or u wanna power of skills to be changed as well ... ? basically u never was any good so pls stfu and keep ur opinion for ur self
Quote from: Ungolianth on February 16, 2010, 04:43:16 AM
tbh necro spike should hit lowest from all other dmg spells,,,atm its fuked up...i got 11 k m attack and i hit sali with normal resist (elemental prot+elemental song) for 400 hits, crits for 2 k after succesfull vortex and messalina with same m attack after vortex hitted him for 5 k so tell me some logic in this...
u cant know messalinas m att , and a lot does matter in ur case like attributes etc...
but if u want a pure test do this, find a necro with death spike @ 117 power and a sps with hydroblast @117 power. hit player or npc with no resists u ll see dmg is the same. i test that my self. and by default necros skills are lower than sps and sorceror. but he can enchant em like u can .
so what was fixed?
Quote from: lucifsg on February 16, 2010, 01:00:11 AM
we dont use em cause they dont matter . whats the point of using fear when it never lands lol, same as mass slow. the vampirc attack gives back sh1t hp
and the pet dies in 2 hits. the bane is useless here due to potions.
what should be done is protections fs opening on imunity
lol no way! mistic immunity means u doesnt resive any buff or debuff under it even if its yours....
Quote from: Ungolianth on February 16, 2010, 04:43:16 AM
tbh necro spike should hit lowest from all other dmg spells,,,atm its fuked up...i got 11 k m attack and i hit sali with normal resist (elemental prot+elemental song) for 400 hits, crits for 2 k after succesfull vortex and messalina with same m attack after vortex hitted him for 5 k so tell me some logic in this...
coz sali have valakas(res fire) and need frinteza(res dark)
ungo-mungo ganja-manja :P
Quote from: lucifsg on February 16, 2010, 01:00:11 AM
the vampirc attack gives back sh1t hp
Ahahaha xD ok lol (not)
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and the pet dies in 2 hits.
That true.
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the bane is useless here due to potions.
Oh cmon, we all know you only care about oly xD
Quote from: lucifsg on February 16, 2010, 05:32:25 AM
u cant know messalinas m att , and a lot does matter in ur case like attributes etc...
but if u want a pure test do this, find a necro with death spike @ 117 power and a sps with hydroblast @117 power. hit player or npc with no resists u ll see dmg is the same. i test that my self. and by default necros skills are lower than sps and sorceror. but he can enchant em like u can .
It's true that attribute system is bugged (totally freaked up more like it) and has way more positive effect on Dark attacks than any other elemental attacks.
Quote from: lucifsg on February 16, 2010, 03:25:58 AM
why do u blabla so much on forums saying ur opinion about game since u dont play ? we know we r not nukers morron we never asked for nukes. all we say is that if hydroblast has 117 power and deathspike 117 they should hit the same nomatter if i have pet and tranfer pain or not. thats how ncsoft made it or u wanna power of skills to be changed as well ... ? basically u never was any good so pls stfu and keep ur opinion for ur self
It is "moron", moron.
And i DO play, i am just not a no-lifer like you.
Quote from: WindPhoenix on February 16, 2010, 12:31:41 PM
It is "moron", moron.
And i DO play, i am just not a no-lifer like you.
(http://www.dannemann.org.uk/images/morans.jpg)
Quote from: lucifsg on February 16, 2010, 01:00:11 AM
we dont use em cause they dont matter . whats the point of using fear when it never lands lol, same as mass slow. the vampirc attack gives back sh1t hp
and the pet dies in 2 hits. the bane is useless here due to potions.
what should be done is protections fs opening on imunity
oh yes right! so now i ask for boost for my he/pp, i have only buffs, stun shot never lands, hamstring never lands, im doing silly dmg with skills, i was tb/battle roar/war cry and mby smthing else, plx boost my char bcos it suck!
Quote from: trooperXkoki on February 16, 2010, 10:52:25 AM
coz sali have valakas(res fire) and need frinteza(res dark)
ungo-mungo ganja-manja :P
nop, frintezza
Quote from: Sali on February 16, 2010, 03:00:39 PM
nop, frintezza
shhh! He knows better what you have and what you need.
Quote from: Ashlynn on February 16, 2010, 03:03:36 PM
shhh! He knows better what you have and what you need.
sorry. :-[
Chimeras will be top war zone :o
Quote from: Sali on February 16, 2010, 03:00:39 PM
nop, frintezza
citer
Quote from: Ashlynn on February 16, 2010, 03:03:36 PM
shhh! He knows better what you have and what you need.
eat my cokc kido. ok u re 'TOP' pk...bots or l2w ...u noob b-grade
Quote from: trooperXkoki on February 16, 2010, 05:04:38 PM
citereat my cokc kido. ok u re 'TOP' pk...bots or l2w ...u noob b-grade
hi attention whore!
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