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Poll
Question: Which Dagger class is the best here ?
Option 1: TH/PP votes: 5
Option 2: TH/PA votes: 19
Option 3: TH/WL votes: 6
Option 4: TH/WK votes: 8
Option 5: AW/SK votes: 29
Title: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: llllllllll on March 10, 2010, 09:40:44 PM
hi everybody , just want to know which dagger is stronger and if AW/SK is still good since c4 :P
well btw , does attr stones give dmg boost to blow ? even if u got 9k p atk it will be same dmg as 1k , but with attr ?
thx for replys ;)
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: ^FDX^ on March 11, 2010, 04:47:49 AM
go for crit dmg and +str build! your dps will be same or even beter then with blows but no mp waste....

and blows can be enchanted elemental effect to work with atr
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: llllllllll on March 11, 2010, 01:13:03 PM
Quote from: FDX on March 11, 2010, 04:47:49 AM
go for crit dmg and +str build! your dps will be same or even beter then with blows but no mp waste....

and blows can be enchanted elemental effect to work with atr
str build ?oO aren't daggers using +STR dyes ?
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: kidicarus on March 11, 2010, 02:28:34 PM
Quote from: llllllllll on March 11, 2010, 01:13:03 PM
str build ?oO aren't daggers using +STR dyes ?

ERROR missinterpretation fault 101
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: Dhart on March 11, 2010, 03:22:25 PM
Quote from: kidicarus on March 11, 2010, 02:28:34 PM
ERROR missinterpretation fault 101
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: gosu2kl on March 11, 2010, 04:18:35 PM
damage from atribute blows dipend from p atack :) so each p atack boost is nice
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: llllllllll on March 11, 2010, 06:09:26 PM
Quote from: kidicarus on March 11, 2010, 02:28:34 PM
ERROR missinterpretation fault 101
thats what we were doing in c4 :>
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: +GekKey+ on March 11, 2010, 09:16:48 PM
pretty much all of them are nice... take a look at their skill, and figure out what will be most of the enemy u will face and u will find the anwser
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: llllllllll on March 13, 2010, 03:45:58 PM
Quote from: FDX on March 11, 2010, 04:47:49 AM

and blows can be enchanted elemental effect to work with atr
u mean if i add attr it will increase my blow dmgs ?
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: WscieklyWaz on March 14, 2010, 12:16:40 PM
Quote from: llllllllll on March 13, 2010, 03:45:58 PM
u mean if i add attr it will increase my blow dmgs ?
yes.

Aw/sk is good, but it always depends what ull be doing, if u usualy go pt vs pt, aw/sk is the best choice. All the TH/XX stuff is better if ur like going alone vs many.
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: llllllllll on March 14, 2010, 03:19:02 PM
Quote from: WscieklyWaz on March 14, 2010, 12:16:40 PM
yes.

Aw/sk is good, but it always depends what ull be doing, if u usualy go pt vs pt, aw/sk is the best choice. All the TH/XX stuff is better if ur like going alone vs many.
btw , Dex/Con - Str dyes are still good ? or if u dicrease p atk blows dmg will be low ?
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: WscieklyWaz on March 14, 2010, 03:35:39 PM
Quote from: llllllllll on March 14, 2010, 03:19:02 PM
btw , Dex/Con - Str dyes are still good ? or if u dicrease p atk blows dmg will be low ?
u know its dragon almost nothing works correctly here, but in theory str is responsible for succesful blows and lethal chance. P atk gives nothing to blow dmg.
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: llllllllll on March 14, 2010, 05:02:15 PM
Quote from: WscieklyWaz on March 14, 2010, 03:35:39 PM
u know its dragon almost nothing works correctly here, but in theory str is responsible for succesful blows and lethal chance. P atk gives nothing to blow dmg.
thx for infos :) now i know what i have to do :d
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: thehunted on March 15, 2010, 03:39:34 PM
STR barely adds any damage to blows. I tested -10 --> +5 STR, with same DEX amount. Only went from 4300 to 4700, while it too a alot of hp, cp, etc.
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: llllllllll on March 17, 2010, 12:18:07 PM
Quote from: thehunted on March 15, 2010, 03:39:34 PM
STR barely adds any damage to blows. I tested -10 --> +5 STR, with same DEX amount. Only went from 4300 to 4700, while it too a alot of hp, cp, etc.
how about lethal chance?
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: llllllllll on March 18, 2010, 12:55:50 PM
Quote from: k0rina on March 17, 2010, 07:32:34 PM
i personally like aw/sk   and     work with attritubes      it gives big difference
are u using STR- Dyes ?
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: WscieklyWaz on March 19, 2010, 10:40:02 PM
Quote from: llllllllll on March 18, 2010, 12:55:50 PM
are u using STR- Dyes ?
Its pretty hard to find good setup for aw, u need str, u need dex and u need con.
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: Elvin on March 23, 2010, 11:54:55 PM
I don't see PW in the poll  ::)
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: Alex on March 24, 2010, 10:12:09 AM
only noobs play PW lolz.
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: IdarkI on March 24, 2010, 10:21:46 AM
Quote from: Alex on March 24, 2010, 10:12:09 AM
only noobs play PW lolz.
sure  :P
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: llllllllll on March 24, 2010, 10:30:56 AM
aw/sk dmg are lol :O so nice ;)
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: Elvin on March 24, 2010, 03:01:02 PM
Quote from: Alex on March 24, 2010, 10:12:09 AM
only noobs play PW lolz.

Quote from: Alex on March 24, 2010, 10:12:09 AM
AlexShadowsong - PW/SWS - Sword Muse hero
y, sure.
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: Caliburn on March 25, 2010, 02:20:53 AM
here on DN it could very possibly be affected by MEN
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: llllllllll on March 25, 2010, 02:30:59 PM
Quote from: neitan on March 24, 2010, 03:20:12 PM
just a question, if you mean blows landrate, isn't dex responsible for it? at least i heard so...
blows dmg = blows dmg
land rate is not in dmg at all lol we are talking about dmg
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: WscieklyWaz on March 25, 2010, 05:42:20 PM
Quote from: neitan on March 24, 2010, 03:20:12 PM
just a question, if you mean blows landrate, isn't dex responsible for it? at least i heard so...

Dex should be responsible for nothing connected with blow type skills now, maybe just reuse speed.
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: llllllllll on March 25, 2010, 09:10:19 PM
Quote from: WscieklyWaz on March 25, 2010, 05:42:20 PM
Dex should be responsible for nothing connected with blow type skills now, maybe just reuse speed.
well landrate too maybe dunno maybe am wrong w/e Dex/Con +4-4Str are just fine for meh =)
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: WscieklyWaz on March 25, 2010, 09:29:07 PM
Quote from: llllllllll on March 25, 2010, 09:10:19 PM
well landrate too maybe dunno maybe am wrong w/e Dex/Con +4-4Str are just fine for meh =)

Well, i wouldnt go -4str on dagger, but its my personal opinion.
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: llllllllll on March 25, 2010, 09:39:15 PM
Quote from: WscieklyWaz on March 25, 2010, 09:29:07 PM
Well, i wouldnt go -4str on dagger, but its my personal opinion.
-8 tbh :d
Title: Re: Some questions about daggers :>
Post by: WscieklyWaz on March 25, 2010, 11:39:45 PM
Quote from: llllllllll on March 25, 2010, 09:39:15 PM
-8 tbh :d

That was good in IL, gl...:P