well , cuz i dont want to consider the time i going to spend on this server as a waste of time .
and cuz i want to have fun playing the game ......
there is some issues that i would love to discuss .
1)- Punishment system (jailing and banning) .
well , in NM 30x my friend got banned on all chars was opened on his ip cuz he was accused to hacking !
while the actual thing that happened was some noob dropped his rb jewels somewhere and he picked em up , he was asked to give back these jewels , and as he denied he was accused of hacking and eventually banned on all his accounts
i really wish that this doesn't happen again !
2)- GMs playing the game , well its not so bad as long as they get normal playable chars (unlike Dragon Gms) , so if a normal player kills a gms char in game and then calls him noob , that wont result in ban !!
xD
any way the whole point is no GM Corruption plz :D
3)- Server stability , i dont mean server online time cuz i know that this server will have a very good connection , what i really mean is if some problem occurs will there be any sort of big wipes ? or any sort of huge rollbacks ?!
4)- nerfing and balancing issues ,
well i hate nerfing cuz eventually all classes will be noobs and mobs will be harder (ty/de example)!!
as u keep on nerfing every good new class combination other classes will be stronger and u will nerf em 2 so it will end up with all nerfed .
5)- Buff limiting .
well ...
I HATE BUFF LIMITING
why ?!
cuz i hate to suffer leveling up a buffer and then not being able to take full advantage of it .
cuz i hate when i buff for a pvp 1vs1 vs mage so i take full magic resistance and a full attribute resistance (fire / water .... etc) depending on his attribute , and he can take full defence buff resisting my attribute or type of attack , so we have a good pvp and then outside in a normal pvp i only buff minimal limit which allows him to kill me much faster than it was in the 1vs1 pvp , or neven allows me to kill him much faster .
cuz i hate when when i get 2 much trigger buffs at the same time which remove some of my important buffs .
cuz i would like to buff cst spd and matk and concetration buffs for Delf to be able to land my hex in additional to my fighter set buffs , and to buff same prev buffs for my paladin to be able to heal my self during the battle , and to buff for my ....................................
Please leave ur comment and dont spam this topic please :)
Ty
why did i make this topic ?! cuz i care and cuz i want to play with my friends ;D
I hate buff limit also, but you cant have all buffs on a 9x server, at least thats my opinion, its not a pvp server.
Anyway, L2 was designed to play in groups, so if you have a good party, with active supports, it will be hard for some one to kill you that easily.
I think making some kind of buff limit will make us play more together, as a clan, alliance etc
Quote from: peroxide on April 16, 2010, 03:08:02 PM
I hate buff limit also, but you cant have all buffs on a 9x server, at least thats my opinion, its not a pvp server.
Anyway, L2 was designed to play in groups, so if you have a good party, with active supports, it will be hard for some one to kill you that easily.
I think making some kind of buff limit will make us play more together, as a clan, alliance etc
well its not a pvp server cuz its not high rate
and low rate servers can have pvp as well !
pvp is a critical part of l2 !
and when u are in a good supported party u will lose alot of buffs cuz of the triggers of the party members and there new party buffs for non-buffer classes .
so there is alot of buffs in the game to limit em .
+ who said that its bad to have almost no-limit buff system on a low rate server !!
actually cuz its a low rate server it shall have this more than other servers , cuz in low rate server u really suffer creating buffer and leveling it up .
so its more worthy to have full advantage of it than in pvp servers .
ban ip and all chars that used that ip of those who used l2walker and other cheats
The whole point of buff limit is to choose your buffs wisely. If you can walk in full buff, I mean every single buff in the game, then only the equipments would decide the outcome of pvps. On the other hand with limited buffs you have to addept to your opponents, resulting a more tactical gameplay.
Quote from: Sowell on April 16, 2010, 03:46:59 PM
ban ip and all chars that used that ip of those who used l2walker and other cheats
who then will play there?;p
Quote from: XForCE on April 16, 2010, 03:16:47 PM
in low rate server u really suffer creating buffer and leveling it up .
But that kind of support in a low server is more appreciated by players in party... if there is some kind of party... I mean ppl, no bot party....
It's also reducing probability of players with support on dualbox/L2W , cuz it starting to be hard for them to make that kind of extra char... and yes some restrictions for buff slots would be nice .... low rate excuse? ohh c'mon.... GAMEPLAY MUST BE RANDOMLY MODIFIED OR EVERYONE WILL HAVE EVERYTHING AT ITS BEST, AND WHATS THE FUN IN BEEING AT THE SAME CONDITIONS LIKE ANY OTHER PLAYER? !
u r talking to urself? or maybe to others?
GM won't make new rules bcuz 3 ppl told that.... ::)
AND SPAMMMMMM!!!!!!
well even with buffs unlimited u have to choose ur buffs
and the walker users shall get banned .
any way
and about bot party , i guess max allowed for 1 mac ip is 2 chars
so there will be no bots , only 1
and if we can have an active buffer instead of a bot buffer it will be much better , but the point is to play with buffs .
+ all this doesnt change nay of what i have sayed earlier .
if u are a tanker playing with concetration and acu and empower and mage dances for cast and matk
u will be able to use skills like paralysis and hex more often may be even power break and freezing shackle (dont remember its name exactly)
that means much better game play instead of just tanking and using normal sk skills
if u ppl aint pro enough or dont want to play L2 with full buffs cuz u think others will pwn ur asses , then its not others problem to suffer !
No offense !
btw xForce just 1 more thing...if u r not enough good player to choose which buff u need and which buff u don't need then go play wow ::)
valkyria will have combat pot? p attack/def pots? m attac/def pots? tatoo? frintezza jwls edited for fighters?
Lol. Then delete all buffs, and it will be the same, like all have full buff, with all resists...
Quote from: Toszi on April 16, 2010, 05:59:46 PM
Lol. Then delete all buffs, and it will be the same, like all have full buff, with all resists...
then again.... it would be lame if all ppl have the same conditions 8)
Just use Ancient Tomes for expanding buff slots... no need for extra slots then... and If someone really wanna have all buffs added it will ruin the game pleasure imo :-\
if u ppl aint pro enough or dont want to play L2 with full buffs cuz u think others will pwn ur asses , then its not others problem to suffer !
No offense !
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You said no flamming, so dont start it yourself :P We were just telling you our point, as you told us yours, ofc we shall just have to wait and see what the game masters decide. You keep forgetting that a mage kick so much ass, just because he has full buffs/pots/costumized sets. W/o those things, you as a tank should have no problem killing a mage, but that again, tankers were designed for PVE mostly, not for PVP. Anyway you can add a dagger or bow subclass, so really, I dont see what the fuss is all about:P
freaking separate buff and song/dance bar as it should be in hellbound is a MUST HAVE
Quote from: Jubilat on April 16, 2010, 07:50:49 PM
as it should be in hellbound
you know there are bunch of things on DN you can call like this :D not to mention about many litle stuff from IL that got bugged or left for itself after update to HB >:(
i wish to see what gms will say .
+ i love to pvp with full buffs
and i believe a skilled player can have a good pvp with full buff much more than without full buff .
Quote from: Curs3dangel on April 16, 2010, 05:05:00 PM
btw xForce just 1 more thing...if u r not enough good player to choose which buff u need and which buff u don't need then go play wow ::)
i know that i need way alot more than the normal limit
and i know why i need it
and if u can believe it , i used to know the exact values of buff effects and on which weapons its activated , and what weapons it works on and whats not .
but cuz i stopped l2 for a while , i kinda forgot alot , but i still have alot in memory !!
xD
Quote from: XForCE on April 17, 2010, 12:47:07 AM
and i believe a skilled player can have a good pvp with full buff much more than without full buff .
i skilled player can have a good pvp with fullbuff and halfbuff too a noob player can have good pvp only if he have good equips and if he is in fullbuff.....
Quote from: Curs3dangel on April 17, 2010, 06:48:21 AM
i skilled player can have a good pvp with fullbuff and halfbuff too a noob player can have good pvp only if he have good equips and if he is in fullbuff.....
+1
Full buffs are ok for major pvp's like sieges, instead, I wanna catch you with your guard off, for killing my bishop lvl 50 :D, you wanna catch me with my guard off for killing your 23 dwarf, it's the beauty of this game, getting revenge, thats why I say full buffs ruin this aspect of the game.
Quote from: Curs3dangel on April 17, 2010, 06:48:21 AM
i skilled player can have a good pvp with fullbuff and halfbuff too a noob player can have good pvp only if he have good equips and if he is in fullbuff.....
Fullbuff = more options
and more pwnage !!
8)
Full buffs my dear is smth that u will not see on this server and its 101% correct.Yeah ok deal i know that with fullbuf u have more options and u can use better some skills that prolly will be more effective etc. but it will be a disaster for the game this option and in conclusion for the server itself.U can do many things if u buff correctly even with the normal buffs no need all the buffs to pwn just choose correct ur set up and yes if sometimes u lose coz of the wrong set up on buffs well is the part of the game,is the beauty of this game isnt it?U will get surprised on it also by someone.
As fot the pots option though well it will be good if have lower lvl than buffs and can be bought in shops in rly cheap price -it will be a boost for all newbies- (and in the start of this server all will be newbies,if i am wrong for this porfavore correct me).
Just let the enchanted mana potion like it is,yes i agree that rechargers se,ee lose somethings from this but the benefits are more and as it is stack sub server u can take advantage of se,ee etc from other ways.
As for the tattoos hmm well,is DN option,i find it good but even w/o the tattoos(although that every1 can have them) the server on my eyes will be the same.
L2w,cheat programs etc well ban ip,ban alternative ip,delete account.put detection program for this than ban automatically will help a lot and everyone.If someone dont have time for play a lot well he/she can donate,if he/she dont want/cant donate can go a bit slower from the others that can/have the possibillity to play 24/7.Anyway as someone wanna play an MMORPG it means that he/she can afford a lot hours from his/her day and that can do this if nop well there is the option to not play also ;D,no need to use a 3rd way program for make it.We cant have everything on this life,can we?
Anyway , hf tc mf.
Ciao.
Quote from: Valedino on April 17, 2010, 08:31:27 PM
Full buffs my dear is smth that u will not see on this server and its 101% correct.
bla bla bla bla bla
Ciao.
ur absolutely right ! ! ;D
and how many chars outside town? subbed, unsubbed
make pt in dragon = 2 guys = 6-7 chars. :P
(1 pvp char+2 supports subbed) ...
if u wanna play alone, better play super mario bross
Quote from: ell34 on April 18, 2010, 06:44:07 PM
and how many chars outside town? subbed, unsubbed
make pt in dragon = 2 guys = 6-7 chars. :P
(1 pvp char+2 supports subbed) ...
if u wanna play alone, better play super mario bross
in nm30x
only 2 chars allowed per 1 pc
no matter even if these chars are only lvl 1
if u get 1 more
u get additional ban with it !
and i guess thats how it shall work in Valkyrie !
Quote from: XForCE on April 17, 2010, 05:06:43 PM
Fullbuff = more options
retarded improvement... everyone are the same - being in this condition.. whats fun about playing like this ???
Whatever, probably they decided already and server will be up in no time ;D
Quote from: CriticalNoob on April 19, 2010, 03:09:09 PM
retarded improvement... everyone are the same - being in this condition.. whats fun about playing like this ???
+1. Lets get retarded :D
Quote from: CriticalNoob on April 19, 2010, 03:09:09 PM
Whatever, probably they decided already and server will be up in no time ;D
Yeeaa suure :D
Quote from: CriticalNoob on April 19, 2010, 03:09:09 PM
retarded improvement... everyone are the same - being in this condition.. whats fun about playing like this ???
Whatever, probably they decided already and server will be up in no time ;D
good thing about improvement buffs that it cant be cancelled !
xD
Quote from: Agent on April 19, 2010, 03:00:13 PM
lolwut?
Deaf ?!
8)
Quote from: XForCE on April 20, 2010, 01:29:00 AM
Deaf ?!
8)
in what universe fullbuff gives more options? none, why? because its rules out all the tactical options.
PS: is there separated buff slots for dance/songs in DN servers?
Quote from: Agent on April 20, 2010, 09:49:09 PM
in what universe fullbuff gives more options? none, why? because its rules out all the tactical options.
PS: is there separated buff slots for dance/songs in DN servers?
in our universe .
Quote from: XForCE on April 20, 2010, 10:31:34 PM
in our universe .
you know its not gonna be some 5000xloll2jcustombrpvpserverwithgmshopandnpcbufferabdcrapslikethat where you running around with 4 lines of buffs all the time. i know it might be hard for you, but try to play without kiss of eva.
Quote from: Agent on April 20, 2010, 11:42:52 PM
you know its not gonna be some 5000xloll2jcustombrpvpserverwithgmshopandnpcbufferabdcrapslikethat where you running around with 4 lines of buffs all the time. i know it might be hard for you, but try to play without kiss of eva.
no one buffs kiss of eva !!
Quote from: Agent on April 21, 2010, 05:07:20 AM
seems like u do
nah actually , never !
only when i try to swim to Dino Island xD
If you want to have all buffs in game at one time you join newbie pvp server. Buff limits balancing game and gives you options for tactic.
Sucking topic <--------
Quote from: TifaPL on April 21, 2010, 06:54:25 AM
If you want to have all buffs in game at one time you join newbie pvp server. Buff limits balancing game and gives you options for tactic.
i didnt say i want to have em all at one time , i said i want it to be possible ....
and there is a big difference actually !
Quote from: TifaPL on April 21, 2010, 06:54:25 AM
Sucking topic <--------
u suck more !