Poll
Question:
Nerf it ?
Option 1: Yes
Option 2: No
nerf that sh1t. ?
or give prove... is the same like sps or sorc... cuz any sorc or sps dont hit and crit me so hard... even with fvcking full resist.
and don't flame me here cuz i don't care about it... just post here ur opinion about necros... they are balanced now ? ... they don't need nerf... ? ::) :-X ???
post screen with 460 dark defence atribute, at least 2 dark resist buffs(w/o song and dance, but better with them) and high damage... or maybe you don't have dark atribute defence and that is your problem, not necros problem?
This is another nerf every class and give the ol/ee back the server?
Heard of defense armor atributes? ok get some of these +divine and unholy and done no necro will hit u for over 600
Quote from: flamingAwe on April 28, 2010, 10:36:00 PM
post screen with 460 dark defence atribute, at least 2 dark resist buffs(w/o song and dance, but better with them) and high damage... or maybe you don't have dark atribute defence and that is your problem, not necros problem?
dunno if i can find those prints but i had all set dark res (2 parts lvl 9 / 3 parts lvl /5) and i still get same dmg -.- (tested 1 week ago or 2 don't remember ;D)
The most I've got hit for was 320 dmg from different necros (with top gear) I think they are OK, I had all dark resist buff/dance/song and +60 from my set.
Quote from: legendaryvicious on April 29, 2010, 12:00:05 AM
The most I've got hit for was 320 dmg from different necros (with top gear) I think they are OK, I had all dark resist buff/dance/song and +60 from my set.
and ur nick is xilef and u r always on ud xD anyway necro r fine as they r ........... just start use resists . learn how to buff 1 dark resist and is making big difference..
and kapibar since u r ee with 2 resists vs dark i ve no idea how they hit u hard for milions... on siege i receive hits from lucif voudas for 450-600
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh253/Lenka_falconer/2ba100.jpg)
Quote from: jygh on April 29, 2010, 12:01:34 AM
and ur nick is xilef and u r always on ud xD anyway necro r fine as they r ........... just start use resists . learn how to buff 1 dark resist and is making big difference..
and kapibar since u r ee with 2 resists vs dark i ve no idea how they hit u hard for milions... on siege i receive hits from lucif voudas for 450-600
I'm not xilef, i use a pw/sws ::)
Quote from: WindPhoenix on April 29, 2010, 12:44:26 AM
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh253/Lenka_falconer/2ba100.jpg)
Pwned!
Quote from: jygh on April 29, 2010, 12:01:34 AM
and ur nick is xilef and u r always on ud xD anyway necro r fine as they r ........... just start use resists . learn how to buff 1 dark resist and is making big difference..
and kapibar since u r ee with 2 resists vs dark i ve no idea how they hit u hard for milions... on siege i receive hits from lucif voudas for 450-600
guess what?, y-day on pvp when he got crit from necro and became mad, he hadnt even simple resist from ee
but anyway, this is sucks when necro with 5-7k matak can hit u harder then SH with 10-11kmatak, especially when in ur buff is always minimut 2x resist against dark (unholy+divine) and only 1 resist against wind (elemental buff or song), and no resists wind in set
what for is that shit m.atak needed then?
necro has curse gloom , problem solved
Quote from: Marinella on April 29, 2010, 05:55:57 AM
guess what?, y-day on pvp when he got crit from necro and became mad, he hadnt even simple resist from ee
but anyway, this is sucks when necro with 5-7k matak can hit u harder then SH with 10-11kmatak, especially when in ur buff is always minimut 2x resist against dark (unholy+divine) and only 1 resist against wind (elemental buff or song), and no resists wind in set
what for is that shit m.atak needed then?
i am sps/ee and have +250 dark recistance without buff, with divine and unholy necros hit me less than 600 in pvp.
Quote from: Marinella on April 29, 2010, 05:55:57 AM
guess what?, y-day on pvp when he got crit from necro and became mad, he hadnt even simple resist from ee
but anyway, this is sucks when necro with 5-7k matak can hit u harder then SH with 10-11kmatak, especially when in ur buff is always minimut 2x resist against dark (unholy+divine) and only 1 resist against wind (elemental buff or song), and no resists wind in set
what for is that shit m.atak needed then?
guess what ... we fight there with fighters... then there join 1 necro... and i dont whine about this ... cuz i know i dont use there dark resistance's cuz i dont have place for them... ::) usualy if i fight with mages... i always use dark resists so for kill any necro i need spend 20dc for stones into my armor... nice nice... WTB NE/BP + Nobless! ::)
Quote from: Marinella on April 29, 2010, 05:55:57 AM
guess what?, y-day on pvp when he got crit from necro and became mad, he hadnt even simple resist from ee
but anyway, this is sucks when necro with 5-7k matak can hit u harder then SH with 10-11kmatak, especially when in ur buff is always minimut 2x resist against dark (unholy+divine) and only 1 resist against wind (elemental buff or song), and no resists wind in set
what for is that shit m.atak needed then?
bull shit for 10-11k can hit you only good necro with good eq , when he have 10k m atak +
so lear nhow to buff, how to play and QQ moar ;D
Quote from: chlipus on April 29, 2010, 08:53:25 AM
bull shit for 10-11k can hit you only good necro with good eq , when he have 10k m atak +
so lear nhow to buff, how to play and QQ moar ;D
lol did u understand what i wrote? i guess not....
i never cried about necros dmg on me, coz i have always 2-3 resist against them, necro can win vs me only if that shitty curse decease land on me. im talking about dmg other mages compares with necro
i explain u again what i mean in my previous post
can u accept the fact that spellhowler with 10-11k m.atak with S80++ weapon+ full atribute hit less then necro with 6-7k matak with shitty Am+-5+6, in fact that person who they hiting has 2x resist dark and only 1 resist wind
Quote from: Evolution on April 29, 2010, 08:50:12 AM
guess what ... we fight there with fighters... then there join 1 necro... and i dont whine about this ... cuz i know i dont use there dark resistance's cuz i dont have place for them... ::) usualy if i fight with mages... i always use dark resists so for kill any necro i need spend 20dc for stones into my armor... nice nice... WTB NE/BP + Nobless! ::)
do u know what attribute using archers in their bow?
WTS Noventa!
Quote from: Marinella on April 29, 2010, 10:15:44 AM
lol did u understand what i wrote? i guess not....
i never cried about necros dmg on me, coz i have always 2-3 resist against them, necro can win vs me only if that shitty curse decease land on me. im talking about dmg other mages compares with necro
i explain u again what i mean in my previous post
can u accept the fact that spellhowler with 10-11k m.atak with S80++ weapon+ full atribute hit less then necro with 6-7k matak with shitty Am+-5+6, in fact that person who they hiting has 2x resist dark and only 1 resist wind
do u know what attribute using archers in their bow?
6-7k m.atk i got on chlipus same like SH 9.5k-11k then how they can hit stronger?
Quote from: Evolution on April 28, 2010, 10:28:36 PM
nerf that sh1t. ?
or give prove... is the same like sps or sorc... cuz any sorc or sps dont hit and crit me so hard... even with fvcking full resist.
nerf nerf nerf it
the dmg dealers like all we know suld be sh not necros that is normal but not on nm
Quote from: MisiekIII on April 29, 2010, 10:50:25 AM
6-7k m.atk i got on chlipus same like SH 9.5k-11k then how they can hit stronger?
that is the question id like to know how necro hit more than SH? lets test it today and post screens
smite me moar plx
i dont think necros hit more than sh .... maybe me lucifsg and some more necros hit more than spellhowlers coz we got good equip and better setup....
more nerd necros ! is the sentence u r looking for xD
Quote from: Diabolical on April 29, 2010, 05:03:17 PM
more nerd necros ! is the sentence u r looking for xD
if some one hit u for 10k means he is a nerd? 8 years old logic ......
i am a necro since i start l2..... nerf me i dont mind.... i will still play my necro.....
Quote from: Marinella on April 29, 2010, 10:15:44 AM
lol did u understand what i wrote? i guess not....
i never cried about necros dmg on me, coz i have always 2-3 resist against them, necro can win vs me only if that shitty curse decease land on me. im talking about dmg other mages compares with necro
i explain u again what i mean in my previous post
can u accept the fact that spellhowler with 10-11k m.atak with S80++ weapon+ full atribute hit less then necro with 6-7k matak with shitty Am+-5+6, in fact that person who they hiting has 2x resist dark and only 1 resist wind
do u know what attribute using archers in their bow?
holy - divine ::) ?
Quote from: Crazzyyhuhuh on April 29, 2010, 12:33:11 PM
the dmg dealers like all we know suld be sh not necros that is normal but not on nm
+1
Quote from: Crazzyyhuhuh on April 29, 2010, 12:33:11 PM
the dmg dealers like all we know suld be sh not necros that is normal but not on nm
it depent of how u think a dmg dealer is.... dmg dealer can be one who make huge hits and one who make small but faster hits.... sh aint the best for fast hits... and since we got m criticals all have been chance since sh was a dmg dealer....
but i think "NE" must have lower dmg skill than "SH" :-X on NM they have same power skill's like all other's dmg dealer's. + this insane debuff's :-\ ::) cuz of this, on NM will dissapear dmg dealer's like Sorcerer, SpellHowler... .. . :-X :-\
ps.! and btw... Necromancer is the dmg dealer class... ::) ? cuz i don't think so... ::) but maybe im wrong ... :-X
Quote from: Evolution on April 29, 2010, 06:36:15 PM
ps.! and btw... Necromancer is the dmg dealer class... ::) ? cuz i don't think so... ::) but maybe im wrong ... :-X
and u know ur "OL" is the debuffer in l2 ?? not dmg dealer... so shush finally plz and learn how to buff... iff u fight vs fighters u should not use zerk = 1 slot alrdy for divine buff.... when i fight vs mages and ve 3 lvl of this manuscript or w/e i can fight vs fighters and i use 2 potions + 2 resist vs dark and still ve like 1-2 slot left... just learn how to buff properly
Quote from: Evolution on April 29, 2010, 05:49:40 PM
holy - divine ::) ?
sure and u prefer zerk instead of divine protection ;)
Quote from: Marinella on April 29, 2010, 07:08:24 PM
sure and u prefer zerk instead of divine protection ;)
He is very unique player.
Quote from: Evolution on April 29, 2010, 06:33:51 PM
but i think "NE" must have lower dmg skill than "SH" :-X on NM they have same power skill's like all other's dmg dealer's. + this insane debuff's :-\ ::) cuz of this, on NM will dissapear dmg dealer's like Sorcerer, SpellHowler... .. . :-X :-\
is the skill power of necro lower on official ? and if yes was it lower on hellbound ? and yes necro is a kind of dmg dealer....+ pet +curses
did a sh land votrex and surenter to u ? if he did then tell me whos the dmg dealer and if its better a necro for dmg dealer.... and no i cant make more dmg if gloom and dark vortrex land than a sh or sorceror or an sps.....
Quote from: Ashlynn on April 29, 2010, 07:09:55 PM
He is very unique player.
special kids with special needs.
flames mode ON mOar's ...? ::) like always ;)
btw: its topic about necro not about my char... so talk about necromancer's plx if u can... cuz its getting little boring... reading this sh1ts...
02.05.2010 End the Poll. And we will see results.
like someone care about ur poll :D
They didnt even care about their oficcial mutants poll ;)
Quote from: Evolution on April 29, 2010, 08:59:07 PM
02.05.2010 End the Poll. And we will see results.
And nobody will give a damn about them.
Quote from: voudas69 on April 29, 2010, 05:16:34 PM
if some one hit u for 10k means he is a nerd? 8 years old logic ......
i am a necro since i start l2..... nerf me i dont mind.... i will still play my necro.....
wow u completely drive what i said in weird direction
i will make it simple to u
strong necro = lots of items = lots of playing hours = lots of farming = NERD
and yeah i was one once
i dont think necros need nerf.. just buff urselff with all the dark resits and u'll be ok (the dance, the song, and both buffs) ye sounds alot but again learn to buff u xD. and if u are figthing vs many class at same times well just prove u are smart enough to know wich buffs u cant dispense with. ;D
Quote from: Evolution on April 29, 2010, 05:49:40 PM
holy - divine ::) ?
if you can't kill necro on pvp with 2 resist for dark i can say you only QQ and i repeat you Learn how to play, use your steal essence
make the old bar and we will see how necro pownz :D
Quote from: voudas69 on April 29, 2010, 05:16:34 PM
if some one hit u for 10k means he is a nerd? 8 years old logic ......
i am a necro since i start l2..... nerf me i dont mind.... i will still play my necro.....
aye and u never relroled to pr/bd till mages become wtf pwnage, just shash and drop it.
Quote from: Sali on April 30, 2010, 11:11:48 PM
aye and u never relroled to pr/bd till mages become wtf pwnage, just shash and drop it.
it wasent even not my char lol.... and sorry if that time archers was the super duper wuper charakters.... no one was playing a mage or they get oneshot down.....
Quote from: Evolution on April 28, 2010, 10:28:36 PM
nerf that sh1t. ?
or give prove... is the same like sps or sorc... cuz any sorc or sps dont hit and crit me so hard... even with fvcking full resist.
and don't flame me here cuz i don't care about it... just post here ur opinion about necros... they are balanced now ? ... they don't need nerf... ? ::) :-X ???
Problem not in this that necro or some other class is op but in this that track is totally freaked up other classes.
in full resist agains sps (krdo was hitting me for 275 look his stuff ;) ) in full resist agains dark ( necro with am+a+10 hitting me for 125) but its impossible to play with every resist make the bar like in official and we can speak then and those necro who donated for QQ weapon will QQ .
This game has turned from a game of skill into a game where the number of bots determine the outcome.
All you ever do is buff, and if you make 1 misstake or they have god forbid, a mixed party you're screwed.
"Learn to buff yourself" well, even with lvl 4 manuscript you still have selfbuffs and shit so you can only really defend yourself vs 1 element at the time.
And in siegetimes it's impossible to be well protected.
Imo elemental should just give all elements and holy+unholy and remove the rest. 1 buff for mages, and 1 dance and 1 song for archers.
And to you necro's out there.... You know you're stronger now. In-game this is not a secret. People reroll to necros cause they do insane damage, why noone knows. But they do.
Necro is the only char now that can 1 shoot anyone. And this is even with Dnet sets that gives a good base resistance vs dark attacks.
But as soon as we get on the forum every necro ingame gets superdefensive, but I guess that's just the way the story goes....
Quote from: kidicarus on May 26, 2010, 09:23:35 AM
This game has turned from a game of skill into a game where the number of bots determine the outcome.
All you ever do is buff, and if you make 1 misstake or they have god forbid, a mixed party you're screwed.
"Learn to buff yourself" well, even with lvl 4 manuscript you still have selfbuffs and shit so you can only really defend yourself vs 1 element at the time.
And in siegetimes it's impossible to be well protected.
Imo elemental should just give all elements and holy+unholy and remove the rest. 1 buff for mages, and 1 dance and 1 song for archers.
And to you necro's out there.... You know you're stronger now. In-game this is not a secret. People reroll to necros cause they do insane damage, why noone knows. But they do.
Necro is the only char now that can 1 shoot anyone. And this is even with Dnet sets that gives a good base resistance vs dark attacks.
But as soon as we get on the forum every necro ingame gets superdefensive, but I guess that's just the way the story goes....
+1 <3
Fyx arguments > all the rest . . .
+2
if necro's should be nerfed, sh,sps,sorc too, evry mages are strong and sps/sorc/sh have no elemental atacks
anyway why this topic still exist now we have 150 atribute power in each part of set so evrything is balanced now only this nonelementa lattacks are strong but doesynt metter, but ppl like you(noobs)QQ evry day evry were, if track nerf necro(but now i don't know why, evry thing is ballanced) ppl like you agin start QQ to other class,only noobs like you always cry because you dont know how tu buff, how tu play, why good pvp players don't cry on forum ? so my question for you is: maby you should learn how to play,how tu buff ur self or just leave nightmare, because ppl like you destroyed this serv when somethink is too hard for them they leave !
Quote from: chlipus on May 27, 2010, 11:39:08 AM
if necro's should be nerfed, sh,sps,sorc too, evry mages are strong and sps/sorc/sh have no elemental atacks
anyway why this topic still exist now we have 150 atribute power in each part of set so evrything is balanced now only this nonelementa lattacks are strong but doesynt metter, but ppl like you(noobs)QQ evry day evry were, if track nerf necro(but now i don't know why, evry thing is ballanced) ppl like you agin start QQ to other class,only noobs like you always cry because you dont know how tu buff, how tu play, why good pvp players don't cry on forum ? so my question for you is: maby you should learn how to play,how tu buff ur self or just leave nightmare, because ppl like you destroyed this serv when somethink is too hard for them they leave !
Hard to see if you're dumb or just don't know english. Either way, youre wrong.
Non-elemental attacks are pretty much the weakest now since attributes doesn't boost them.
Sps/Sorc/SH does have elemental attacks. Infact thoose are the only ones with elemental attacks.
Im not crying, but there's no denying that necro is the strongest mage right now.
Quote from: kidicarus on May 27, 2010, 12:24:49 PM
Hard to see if you're dumb or just don't know english. Either way, youre wrong.
Non-elemental attacks are pretty much the weakest now since attributes doesn't boost them.
Sps/Sorc/SH does have elemental attacks. Infact thoose are the only ones with elemental attacks.
Im not crying, but there's no denying that necro is the strongest mage right now.
Don't know how to argue with these words .... Everything is true :o
Quote from: chlipus on May 27, 2010, 11:39:08 AM
if necro's should be nerfed, sh,sps,sorc too, evry mages are strong and sps/sorc/sh have no elemental atacks
anyway why this topic still exist now we have 150 atribute power in each part of set so evrything is balanced now only this nonelementa lattacks are strong but doesynt metter, but ppl like you(noobs)QQ evry day evry were, if track nerf necro(but now i don't know why, evry thing is ballanced) ppl like you agin start QQ to other class,only noobs like you always cry because you dont know how tu buff, how tu play, why good pvp players don't cry on forum ? so my question for you is: maby you should learn how to play,how tu buff ur self or just leave nightmare, because ppl like you destroyed this serv when somethink is too hard for them they leave !
just look who cry... ^^ :'( :D im sure if necro got any nerf... u will change char... so... plx --> :-X cuz only u "QQ" here now. ;)
Quote from: kidicarus on May 27, 2010, 12:24:49 PM
Hard to see if you're dumb or just don't know english. Either way, youre wrong.
Non-elemental attacks are pretty much the weakest now since attributes doesn't boost them.
Sps/Sorc/SH does have elemental attacks. Infact thoose are the only ones with elemental attacks.
Im not crying, but there's no denying that necro is the strongest mage right now.
pwnd :D
Quote from: Diabolical on April 29, 2010, 06:46:02 AM
necro has curse gloom , problem solved
necro hasn't surrender to death spike, problem opened
Quote from: chlipus on May 27, 2010, 11:39:08 AM
if necro's should be nerfed, sh,sps,sorc too, evry mages are strong and sps/sorc/sh have no elemental atacks
anyway why this topic still exist now we have 150 atribute power in each part of set so evrything is balanced now only this nonelementa lattacks are strong but doesynt metter, but ppl like you(noobs)QQ evry day evry were, if track nerf necro(but now i don't know why, evry thing is ballanced) ppl like you agin start QQ to other class,only noobs like you always cry because you dont know how tu buff, how tu play, why good pvp players don't cry on forum ? so my question for you is: maby you should learn how to play,how tu buff ur self or just leave nightmare, because ppl like you destroyed this serv when somethink is too hard for them they leave !
Where you saw 150 resist in each part in nm now :o
Quote from: VforVanilla on May 29, 2010, 10:45:23 AM
Where you saw 150 resist in each part in nm now :o
Check messenger ....
Quote from: ZEFEROT on May 29, 2010, 12:16:17 PM
Check messenger ....
I have done that and I still got 90.What about you?
150 has been aplied now only at valkyria for check, some GM wrote this, i dont remember where.
close this topic couse when hb comes every1 was qq- ing about dark attack resist about weak necros bla bla bla, now when this class is stronger u qq about damage ;/ , when u will be satisfied oO So u have two options go play official or play here as necro . end
SPS/EE age : "Leave or play with sps/ee"
Archer age: "Leave or play with archer"
Daggers @ oly: "Make ur dagger or stop to QQ"
Necros now: "Play necro or gtfo" . . .
Always the same ol' facking thing...
Quote from: Neozinhu on May 30, 2010, 08:11:26 AM
SPS/EE age : "Leave or play with sps/ee"
Archer age: "Leave or play with archer"
Daggers @ oly: "Make ur dagger or stop to QQ"
Necros now: "Play necro or gtfo" . . .
Always the same ol' facking thing...
buehehhe :D
Quote from: Neozinhu on May 30, 2010, 08:11:26 AM
SPS/EE age : "Leave or play with sps/ee"
Archer age: "Leave or play with archer"
Daggers @ oly: "Make ur dagger or stop to QQ"
Necros now: "Play necro or gtfo" . . .
Always the same ol' facking thing...
tank age :(
Quote from: mortal on May 30, 2010, 12:07:33 PM
tank age :(
Yeah... thoose were the days. 2 weeks in c5 was it?
Quote from: k0rina on May 30, 2010, 03:32:22 PM
i didnt even read the previous pages but u must be moron
do u know how many resists exist for necro and he use only dark attack so if u had a bit brain and buff ur ass better u whouldnt QQ here
necro is the most easy mage to buff against
And if You would had even a bit brain, You would be able to create message without any flaming and getting agro :)
(Go on, flame me!) :D
Quote from: Neozinhu on May 30, 2010, 05:42:15 PM
I'm w8ing for es/sps age . . . ;D
rdy for the funeral ???
Quote from: Neozinhu on May 30, 2010, 06:25:55 PM
hm?
no nothin :P u saw oly bots movie ?? kazimira played there as sps/es or i am wrong ???
Quote from: k0rina on May 31, 2010, 01:04:10 AM
lol u got offended but these words?
Dunno man mb i must speak to u like to my gf or my mama to not cry
Ye go on. Don't let me cry :P
Quote from: mortal on May 30, 2010, 11:16:10 PM
no nothin :P u saw oly bots movie ?? kazimira played there as sps/es or i am wrong ???
ahh ye ye
i saw the movie...
Rly pwnage...but i need stuff to do smth like that...and i'm poor :-X
Quote from: Neozinhu on May 30, 2010, 08:11:26 AM
SPS/EE age : "Leave or play with sps/ee"
Archer age: "Leave or play with archer"
Daggers @ oly: "Make ur dagger or stop to QQ"
Necros now: "Play necro or gtfo" . . .
Always the same ol' facking thing...
W8ing for DWARF age :) Wanna see how little dwarfie will kill just somebody in Oly ( don't count CrazyyHuhuh ) :P
i ll make dark avenger /shillen elder bcs those classes are extinct spiecies
Quote from: Ungolianth on May 31, 2010, 12:17:52 PM
neo but if u wanna pown all all chars u need stuff...no char is op without good stuff
i still kill some dnet lowskill guys with my lovely 3yo dc robe set (the 1st set A that i made in this server...and didnt sold yet ;D)