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Ok, if you wanna cry, there is another POLL topic, which became "cry" topic. Go there and cry.
As many players have pointed out with reasonable arguments, zone limitations should be reconcidered. They might get exploited, they may ruin the game play a bit and etc. And I would agree that necros/catas/HB should not be limited to mains only. People should make their choces whether they want to go there with a normal party, but 80+ skills, or with mixed party (well I know answer is quite obvious, but still). Someone made a really good point that you will have to switch subs like 20 times a day, which is quite stupid.
On the other hand, I do understand anthy/vallas. That is not an every day event. So clan will have to decide, how many players they want to go and kill the beast and how many players should be helping to pvp with dn subs (or mains?). This will make people think more about tactics etc and will make the gameplay more interesting.
For those who say that tyr/de will be farming on the hellbound- I think it is true. But on the other had, the trade-off is not that good either. You will go to hellbound prolly everyday. Would you better kill enemies tyr/des parties, or change subbs 20 times a day more ? So mainly because HB island is an every day event, I hope that this limitation will be taken off.
I hope I made myself clear and GMs will look at this seriously.
Thank you.

this is pointless to go for bosses in main w/o sub...100+ to kill it COME ON!!!

Give option: yes w/o Bosses

100% YES FOR THOSE RESTRICTION... NO MORE SUBED BOT PARTIES IN CATAS FOR FAST EXP/ FARM CRY'S ETC... IT OUGHT TO BE HARD FOR PLAYERS LEADING THEM TO TEAM PLAY.... TORN CLOSE THIS PLOX  :-\ ...

Are you retard?

OH YES OFC.  LET PEOPLE GO TY/DE with BP on dual box solo killing Anakiel leveling CRY'S... don't tell me ppl don't know about this...  :-*

It's not pointless to go for bosses with 100+. It is fun. You should try it.

Poll edited for yes w/o bosses, although I cannot think any argument in favor of that.

Critical, it's your opinion. No need for caps lock. Please be more construct while expresing it.

No, I am not retard (if that was for me ^^)

People, if you feel like you have some good arguments why things should be one way or another, please tell them. But do that in a constructive manier, so everyone can understand you and there is no need for flaming.

Quote from: CriticalNoob on April 29, 2010, 08:20:18 PM
OH YES OFC.  LET PEOPLE GO TY/DE with BP on dual box solo killing Anakiel leveling CRY'S... don't tell me ppl don't know about this...  :-*

Anakim/lillity is one thing. Catas is other. I think it can be solved in other way than closing all catas.

Force ppl to play together = more fun = more ppl = more fun = more friends = more fun = more pvp = more more more more

NO ONE FLAMES HERE... I THINK  ::) .... ITS JUST GM'S WILL DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO IN ORDER TO PREVENT RUINING FRESH SERVER. IF THEY THINK OUR OPINION IS RIGHT THEY WILL CONSIDER IT.. OTHERWISE IT'S POINTLESS IN GIVING YOUR OPINION IF THEY DECIDED ALREADY ON THIS AND THEY STICK WITH IT LOL  :D

...ohh btw.. its only about zone limitations  ::)

After discussing with my friends about new Valkyria system we've come to conclusion that IF u remove zone limitations prolly most of us will come.

Quote from: Hostnik on April 29, 2010, 08:31:01 PM
After discussing with my friends about new Valkyria system we've come to conclusion that IF u remove zone limitations prolly most of us will come.

Bye then.

OMG HB zones are like 10% of all map zone ? what's the problem ppl ? whatever.... ppl will see it's greatness after it will be UP for some weeks... I think it's good preventing farms on HB and many other issues that ppl just don't see now so why don't you w8 till Friday 8PM  ::) ?

Quote from: Hostnik on April 29, 2010, 08:31:01 PM
After discussing with my friends about new Valkyria system we've come to conclusion that IF u remove zone limitations prolly most of us will come.

hahahah...nema sanse XD retardirani su u potpunosti XD

Im sure that will be possible to summon subbed char to HB/Cata like we summon chars without quests to HB now. So its uselless restriction.
People will exploit it anyway

simple answer for topic: it's good idea, becouse now you will try true team playing.

Quote from: Kotlet on April 29, 2010, 09:16:05 PM
Im sure that will be possible to summon subbed char to HB/Cata like we summon chars without quests to HB now. So its uselless restriction.
People will exploit it anyway

prool will work like when u dont have quest... u get port when mobs come close

For example...i make a TH char,i lvl it up to 80+ and i get retail to PP...Were the hell am i going to lvl up my PP retail if i only can join Catas/necros/etc with my main class?  ???

hahaha there will be MANY issues with this system xD

Quote from: Mokas on April 29, 2010, 09:33:55 PM
For example...i make a TH char,i lvl it up to 80+ and i get retail to PP...Were the hell am i going to lvl up my PP retail if i only can join Catas/necros/etc with my main class?  ???

Subbed chars will be forbidden. Not with retail. Correct me if im wrong ...

Quote from: Vax on April 29, 2010, 09:28:18 PM
prool will work like when u dont have quest... u get port when mobs come close

It can be like you said.
But its not easy to code (I think, im not programmer), to port player (with HB quest) out. Porting to town was made by ncsoft  [I know, teleport to town is also near golky, but its same like HB (connected to quest, not char stats)].

Is it possible to summon retail char to oly? Anyone tried this?

Quote from: QQ_QQ on April 29, 2010, 09:39:26 PM
Subbed chars will be forbidden. Not with retail. Correct me if im wrong ...

But retail is subclass... Or areas will be forbidden for retail+DN sub?

Quote from: TifaPL on April 29, 2010, 09:41:21 PM
But retail is subclass... Or areas will be forbidden for retail+DN sub?

Yup that's what I meant.

So probably it will be able to exp your simple sublclass in all places :) (It's hard to understand all those rules  :-X)

Heh, let's focus on actually making retail quest first ;]

As far as i understood, we cant exp any of our retails in necros/catas and so on....

You have answer: We have restricted some areas where you can only go in with your main class (single class). There you will have to rethink who to take to your party, no more one man army or super damage dealers.

Or not  ???  main class is single class and retil sub is also single class o.O when you have retail+DNsub its two classes

Omg its sooo hard

this will encourage botting more and more..becuz ppl are greedy
u need only 60-70 lvl bd-sws only..same for empower....
most pvp is done in epic areas..why use subbed retail for??try to think what will happen months later..ppl with sub will even camp in those areas just for pvp points, nonsubbed main class cant do anything vs subbed retail..there will be chaos in fog entrance, in antaras heart...
this system is ONLY good for oly nothing more....
this is my opinion I was thinking of a clean start but not now...