some guys are now whit more adena and crys that u can imagine... and sure, this guys go to wait for items B, A and S grade to buy... go to wait some time, when the ppl start to sell items in stores to buy it and equip urs chars..
some guys have Soulshots and blessed for all the life on this server.. punchased ofc.. whit money of this bug..
some guys have items.. that buy from ppl who sell it in town.. like armors, weapons, crys, Soulcristals.. mats.. pots, enchants.. and more. what u gonna do whit it? u cant wipe the adena of "legals" players.. is not just for this.. u cant wipe just the item punchased, becoz the adena that him use and now have it other guy, is not "legal".
Some guys have more of crys that u can imagine.. and just use this bug ( is not a bug! is aerror of GMs.. asept it! ) some mins.. what u go to do whit it? u cant wipe all crys! is not just for others who make it be the fine way..
some guys that use this "GM ERROR" when see that cant sell the crys in stores just to dont put ur self char in danger.. Change the crys for ewapons of luxury shop! so inteligents.. what u go to do whit it? some friend tell me that now have adena (not to much) from the "GM ERROR"
What u go to do, whit ppl who pay second class items and first too, for to much chars lvl 1.. (some guys see that in anymomment GMs will wipe adena.. so fast think in something interesting.. buy first and second class for new clan mattes, and bots...)
what u go to do when new ppl ask about the posibility that we was 1 week ago to pay second class change whir weapons from coins.. what u go to say? "was a mistake that should never happen"?? ppff...
i just want know what u do, or what u go to do, whit all this, be coz my clan like others are thinking leave this server.. oh my lider stay in the hail just to show the money that him make in some mins.. and co-lider are empy becoz drop all ur items and say "come here are 1 of my most big errors.." and others guys after drop alot of C grade weapons (that anybody talk about) in giran, leave the server..
from my clan u lost 20 from 35 when u say the shit of "restricted areas" and now u lost 12 of 15 guys for dont want make correct the think. What is correct? restart server from 0, W/O weapons QCoins unables to trades and to sell in stores or droping.. and for make crys too... 3 guys wait.. but not to much if this follow like now.
good idea!!
Drake post saying something that u are a fvking noob, and we go to fell a restart, to make this server a serius and balanced server, and apologizing, saying "we go to put a new Admin" and just change ur name.. and all happy :)
sorry my english..
+100 for Darkcore
WHY DA *BEEP* YOU CANT MAKE WAPE/ROLLBACK and now you will down server or BAN PPL FOR 20021012021 days cose i think you have all this server in ASS.
How many ppl you lost Idiots?600?USE A BRAIN LOL,do you think the problem will fix alone....NO! :o
3 dys ago 1200 players now you got 600(+/-)... ??? ??? ???
"Wape/rollback is not neccesery" YES IT IS!You JUST dont know how to do it.
GZ for ^GM's^ brains.And wish you fix server in FEW YERS. >:(
GM's push ppl to use L2w, but w/o botting chars on Bronze Coins its freaking hard have more adena than 10kk ++ from farm , i said about chars that using SoulShoots (nukers, DD) not leachers. Drop adena its too low to have money for other things that MP pots and Soulshoots. If u will incrase ADENA drop ppl won't botting a lot.
Quote from: Navaro on May 09, 2010, 10:16:21 AM
GM's push ppl to use L2w, but w/o botting chars on Bronze Coins its freaking hard have more adena than 10kk ++ from farm , i said about chars that using SoulShoots (nukers, DD) not leachers. Drop adena its too low to have money for other things that MP pots and Soulshoots. If u will incrase ADENA drop ppl won't botting a lot.
I agree. GMs should increase adena drop, specially on low moobs, and make for new players cheapest teleports (for quest for 1 proof u must use a lot of teleports, ppl dont have adena for that). about walkers, mby after that there will be little less, but walkers were, are ,will be
And you think guys then will be no l2w for me will be much more.
For what change adena drop XD . NVM :-X
Quote from: Voltage on May 09, 2010, 11:48:19 AM
And you think guys then will be no l2w for me will be much more.
For what change adena drop XD . NVM :-X
no and we are not talking about walker use..
HAHAAHAH i knew smth would happen. Well if u geniuses wouldn try to make another starwars server with stacksubs on retails and horseshits like that maybe u wouldnt have got here. But no .,... "ve are ze zupermengz and ve make JIHAD". "Ve implement ze coinz zystem coz ve are zupermengz" ..... HAHAHAHA FUKIN FAILS !
lol ppl, cry a river here on forum, it will make you feel better XD
go on some different priv if you dont like it here, noone will miss you cryiers
Quote from: nolimits on May 09, 2010, 07:18:10 PM
lol ppl, cry a river here on forum, it will make you feel better XD
go on some different priv if you dont like it here, noone will miss you cryiers
u dont see the point.. the server is a fvcking fail at the same start having enables the weapons from Coins... u are in a server 3x of adena rate, and whit guys who have 300kk or more just farming coins some days.. i farm 2,5k of coin (is like 9kk or more..) in 1 hour 30 mins.. u think that this is normal? this is a balance server? the ppl who start now dont have the same posibilitys that ppl who start 3 weeks ago. later GM fake again whit this error from him, and now are banning (some hours) ppl who have too much weapons on inventary.. some days ago i make whit my clan more of 80 weapons D whit coins.. just to try to get a CH in some hours.. and GM say that this is "normal" and keep server "balanced"?? wtf.. im not crying.. i try to save a good server of a good network. some days ago him post more of 1,1k of ppl.. hou much now? wait some weeks and u will see..
so... nothing? GMs dont go to do anything? ok.. i see...
Quote from: MumM on May 09, 2010, 09:31:43 PM
u dont see the point.. the server is a fvcking fail at the same start having enables the weapons from Coins... u are in a server 3x of adena rate, and whit guys who have 300kk or more just farming coins some days.. i farm 2,5k of coin (is like 9kk or more..) in 1 hour 30 mins.. u think that this is normal? this is a balance server? the ppl who start now dont have the same posibilitys that ppl who start 3 weeks ago. later GM fake again whit this error from him, and now are banning (some hours) ppl who have too much weapons on inventary.. some days ago i make whit my clan more of 80 weapons D whit coins.. just to try to get a CH in some hours.. and GM say that this is "normal" and keep server "balanced"?? wtf.. im not crying.. i try to save a good server of a good network. some days ago him post more of 1,1k of ppl.. hou much now? wait some weeks and u will see..
well, i see the point, im not too satisfied with coin system too... but... its here.... i belive that GMs will do their work and balance it.
you all just think that server will get up and everythink will be perfect, thats so wrong... from my rl job in data centre i know one thing: 10% is getting server online, 90% is debugging during time.
so yes, not everythink is done well on this server. but from my 5 years experience among many L2 servers i can tell you that its never working perfect from begining...
so what to say at end:
dont panic, give it time to show how it will work out.
dont be such criticists, 99% of you are just players which have no idea about providing server.
dont be such narcists, stop expecting that you know what is best and that GMs will reply on every your complain and remake server settings just because you said so.
enjoy game, and remeber: Fun is not made by server, but by community which play there ;)
gl hf
Trpajzilk
Quote from: nolimits on May 10, 2010, 08:03:31 AM
well, i see the point, im not too satisfied with coin system too... but... its here.... i belive that GMs will do their work and balance it.
you all just think that server will get up and everythink will be perfect, thats so wrong... from my rl job in data centre i know one thing: 10% is getting server online, 90% is debugging during time.
so yes, not everythink is done well on this server. but from my 5 years experience among many L2 servers i can tell you that its never working perfect from begining...
so what to say at end:
dont panic, give it time to show how it will work out.
dont be such criticists, 99% of you are just players which have no idea about providing server.
dont be such narcists, stop expecting that you know what is best and that GMs will reply on every your complain and remake server settings just because you said so.
enjoy game, and remeber: Fun is not made by server, but by community which play there ;)
gl hf
Trpajzilk
+111111111 on this,thank god for people who are still using brain before posting....all the drama on this forum makes me sick
Quote from: maslina on May 10, 2010, 08:39:41 AM
+111111111 on this,thank god for people who are still using brain before posting....all the drama on this forum makes me sick
let me bet, that come from someone who don't care about the economy being freaked up because he's full of adenas thank to his exploit ? ;)
But yeah, that's so freaking normal that first player could make 10kk within few hours with coins system at the start and that new players will get those 10kk after maybe days.
You only think about yourself because you have the adenas, think also of new players because without new players, the server will die... is it hard to get ?
Quote from: Kazuki on May 10, 2010, 08:53:20 AM
let me bet, that come from someone who don't care about the economy being freaked up because he's full of adenas thank to his exploit ? ;)
But yeah, that's so freaking normal that first player could make 10kk within few hours with coins system at the start and that new players will get those 10kk after maybe days.
You only think about yourself because you have the adenas, think also of new players because without new players, the server will die... is it hard to get ?
No this comes from someone who come after work and want to enjoy few hours of non cryers in giran spamming shout chat,and no i don`t have my wh full of items from the bug that appeared,i was sleeping at that hour.But keep up the drama,and when someone uses his brain before posting.....ofcourse he is full of adena from the bug.....pffff
Quote from: maslina on May 10, 2010, 09:30:11 AM
No this comes from someone who come after work and want to enjoy few hours of non cryers in giran spamming shout chat,and no i don`t have my wh full of items from the bug that appeared,i was sleeping at that hour.But keep up the drama,and when someone uses his brain before posting.....ofcourse he is full of adena from the bug.....pffff
Funny, first you told people to stop shooting and use the forum, now they can't use the forum ?
If you never complain about anything that you find wrong, nice for you... but guess what, GMs asked themselves the opinions of players, so players give their opinions.
If it doesn't please you, why don't you keep play and stop reading the forum ?
Because except telling people to shut up, looks like you didn't even bother to understand the problem or you don't care if there won't be new players coming.
nolimits has a point and he is right somehow.you cant push gm on every small or big problem, they do their best im sure.
unfortunately, many of you that sugest thingas and ideas, not takin in mind the HUMAN factor.
greed.bad side of humans.most of the players on server are on age that will never spent time to gain goods, but will use any other way to get it.im not on valkyrie anymore, i spent few hours on it, it shows me what kind of ppl are there, so i wont stay.
but, i really feel sorry, because, the community of server, instead to help admins make a good one, trying to destroy as usual for helping..their self, by using all exploit they can find.
Quote from: babiskk on May 10, 2010, 09:40:56 AM
nolimits has a point and he is right somehow.you cant push gm on every small or big problem, they do their best im sure.
unfortunately, many of you that sugest thingas and ideas, not takin in mind the HUMAN factor.
greed.bad side of humans.most of the players on server are on age that will never spent time to gain goods, but will use any other way to get it.im not on valkyrie anymore, i spent few hours on it, it shows me what kind of ppl are there, so i wont stay.
but, i really feel sorry, because, the community of server, instead to help admins make a good one, trying to destroy as usual for helping..their self, by using all exploit they can find.
What do you think people complaining are trying to do ?
There is solutions to make server better, but admins are just ignoring them and try to fix their own bugs by themselves.
As for last bug, a rollback would have took like 1h max and if they backup every 2h as they so claim, we would have lost at worst 6h.
2 Days after the bugs, there are still people with stuff bought with the bugs, people with load of crystals and other stuffs.
I honestly feel like they didn't rollback because they couldn't... because, i'm pretty sure they don't have any rollback even if they claim to backup.
I really can't believe admis would choose the path they took to fix the problem... and it will never be fixed this way, when a rollback would have been so simple and not so bad (6h isn't that much)
Does someone actualy think that gm's woudnt try to do the best whay they can? Its just a little more then 1 week server, and you think they already dont give a shiet about server?
i'm not sure why you guys need adena ? to do what with it ? there is NOTHING on the market yet, no armors, no weapons . you want adena to buy soulshots ? only thing you can do with adena is buy mats, but i don't think anyone is that stupid to sell them ? on my chars i have like 5kk adena on both (~70 destro ~68 wc) ... i buy mats as soon as i see them. trust me .. adena is useless and will always be useless .. it's just a reference in trading. mats >>>> adena.
Quote from: deiwidaz on May 10, 2010, 09:57:10 AM
Does someone actualy think that gm's woudnt try to do the best whay they can? Its just a little more then 1 week server, and you think they already dont give a shiet about server?
They do care for the server, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered to open it.
They certainly are trying their best in the path they have chosen to fix the bug but it was not the best patch to take and even if they try really hard, it's already too late to repair all damage made from the bug, for sure many players will get away with it when a lil rollback would have solved everything.
Plus for those against the rollback... it can only be the ones online during the bug, so likely who exploited it.
And still, GMs told us there were only like 400-600 players online at that time, remove the shop and box, it leaves not so many active players and a good part did exploit the bug.
So the rollback would have hurted really a few players who didn't exploited... nothing comparing to the whole server now dealing with the damage of the bug.
We do know they try their best but it was obviously not the best choice of action and many players even if they stay, think a lil rollback would have been better.
Quote from: tzuc on May 10, 2010, 10:00:04 AM
i'm not sure why you guys need adena ? to do what with it ? there is NOTHING on the market yet, no armors, no weapons . you want adena to buy soulshots ? only thing you can do with adena is buy mats, but i don't think anyone is that stupid to sell them ? on my chars i have like 5kk adena on both (~70 destro ~68 wc) ... i buy mats as soon as i see them. trust me .. adena is useless and will always be useless .. it's just a reference in trading. mats >>>> adena.
It might be useless to you but not to everybody... if adenas was so worthless, why did players bothered exploit coin system and the bug to make lot of adenas ?
You can buy mats, part recipe with adenas (and 5kk isn't much knowing price of A/S grade), as well as SS, Arrow, Ore, Cursed Bone etc... and all stuff necessary to xp.
Plus Clan need lot of adenas, they needed it to buy CH, they need it to maintain it etc...
Trust me, many people find an use to adenas
Quote from: Kazuki on May 10, 2010, 10:07:43 AM
It might be useless to you but not to everybody... if adenas was so worthless, why did players bothered exploit coin system and the bug to make lot of adenas ?
You can buy mats, part recipe with adenas (and 5kk isn't much knowing price of A/S grade), as well as SS, Arrow, Ore, Cursed Bone etc... and all stuff necessary to xp.
Plus Clan need lot of adenas, they needed it to buy CH, they need it to maintain it etc...
Trust me, many people find an use to adenas
mats - clan
parts - spoil / farm with clan
arrow - clan / drop
clan hall - 50kk 1 time from 10-15 people / mantain 2kk / week ..
you need adena for bones / ss / ore .. which you can get from simple killing mobs
Quote from: tzuc on May 10, 2010, 10:11:44 AM
mats - clan
parts - spoil / farm with clan
arrow - clan / drop
clan hall - 50kk 1 time from 10-15 people / mantain 2kk / week ..
you need adena for bones / ss / ore .. which you can get from simple killing mobs
Gatekeeper too maybe ?
Plus as i said in another post... on this server we do about 20% more adena than retail only.
Do you think on retail they spam SS/Bss like we do here without the support of castle's taxe ?
I played on retail and if you spam SS... you're in big shit after.
There are also quest item, you'll tell me you still can do the quest but when you did them countless times already... you don't feel like taking 2-3 days depending on how long you can play everyday just to do them
And if it was so easy to get all mats needed to equip all clan members, why some people bother buying them or selling them ?
and btw.. what means "clan" ? it's not like the clan was getting everything for free.
Like arrow... what does the clan have to do with it ? depending on how many archer you've got, you can't do without craft.
Quote from: Kazuki on May 10, 2010, 10:21:18 AM
Gatekeeper too maybe ?
Plus as i said in another post... on this server we do about 20% more adena than retail only.
Do you think on retail they spam SS/Bss like we do here without the support of castle's taxe ?
I played on retail and if you spam SS... you're in big shit after.
There are also quest item, you'll tell me you still can do the quest but when you did them countless times already... you don't feel like taking 2-3 days depending on how long you can play everyday just to do them
And if it was so easy to get all mats needed to equip all clan members, why some people bother buying them or selling them ?
and btw.. what means "clan" ? it's not like the clan was getting everything for free.
Like arrow... what does the clan have to do with it ? depending on how many archer you've got, you can't do without craft.
i play retail :) 83 bishop on Teon .. with the newbie changes ( buffs to lvl 72 ) shadow weapons, common .. yes you spam ss / bss
Quote from: Kazuki on May 10, 2010, 10:04:39 AM
They do care for the server, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered to open it.
They certainly are trying their best in the path they have chosen to fix the bug but it was not the best patch to take and even if they try really hard, it's already too late to repair all damage made from the bug, for sure many players will get away with it when a lil rollback would have solved everything.
Plus for those against the rollback... it can only be the ones online during the bug, so likely who exploited it.
And still, GMs told us there were only like 400-600 players online at that time, remove the shop and box, it leaves not so many active players and a good part did exploit the bug.
So the rollback would have hurted really a few players who didn't exploited... nothing comparing to the whole server now dealing with the damage of the bug.
We do know they try their best but it was obviously not the best choice of action and many players even if they stay, think a lil rollback would have been better.
I was for rolback also cause i didnt play when ppl exploited. But it too late now.
For sure they try to do the best atm, better server - more money for them :)
Quote from: tzuc on May 10, 2010, 10:22:43 AM
i play retail :) 83 bishop on Teon .. with the newbie changes ( buffs to lvl 72 ) shadow weapons, common .. yes you spam ss / bss
I'm sure you do with only the adena drop ?
And what's the price of SS/Bss there ? as high as here ? doubt so
And i had forgot SA... not something clan or spoil can help about.
Quote from: Kazuki on May 10, 2010, 09:52:15 AM
What do you think people complaining are trying to do ?
There is solutions to make server better, but admins are just ignoring them and try to fix their own bugs by themselves.
As for last bug, a rollback would have took like 1h max and if they backup every 2h as they so claim, we would have lost at worst 6h.
2 Days after the bugs, there are still people with stuff bought with the bugs, people with load of crystals and other stuffs.
I honestly feel like they didn't rollback because they couldn't... because, i'm pretty sure they don't have any rollback even if they claim to backup.
I really can't believe admis would choose the path they took to fix the problem... and it will never be fixed this way, when a rollback would have been so simple and not so bad (6h isn't that much)
+111 for this guy.. guys we are trying to help the server, bigging for the only way to resolve this. Is a rollback 1 hour after "errog GM" (i want to explain something.. the ppl who use this eror is not a exploiter.. becos buy weapons in 0 adenas and sold the crystals from this, GM put the price, so we dont force the game to make a error.. we just buy weapons in the GM price)
Whit this litle rollback all "problems" who make the ppl whit adena from error.. would be truly fixed.
Quote from: nolimits on May 10, 2010, 08:03:31 AM
well, i see the point, im not too satisfied with coin system too... but... its here.... i belive that GMs will do their work and balance it.
you all just think that server will get up and everythink will be perfect, thats so wrong... from my rl job in data centre i know one thing: 10% is getting server online, 90% is debugging during time.
so yes, not everythink is done well on this server. but from my 5 years experience among many L2 servers i can tell you that its never working perfect from begining...
About coins.. this weapons, pay Clan halss, and 3 CH just for 1 clan... sendons and first class of 99% of this server.. make too much rinch some guys.. make the money to equip full clans.. in a server 3x adena drop u think that is normal?
Quote from: nolimits on May 10, 2010, 08:03:31 AM
so what to say at end:
dont panic, give it time to show how it will work out.
dont be such criticists, 99% of you are just players which have no idea about providing server.
dont be such narcists, stop expecting that you know what is best and that GMs will reply on every your complain and remake server settings just because you said so.
enjoy game, and remeber: Fun is not made by server, but by community which play there ;)
never go to work if dont make a fvcking roll back.. and from 0! and eave the posibity to trade/sell/cryztallice weapons for coins..
i have no idea about providing server.. but i see alot of time hou finish servers whit this tipe of errors, or whit GMs stubborn like this... Empy!
we say? too much ppl want a final fix for it! Gms fvck the server to the start and now finish to kill it.
what community? clans are leaving... the comunity is go on..
Quote from: tzuc on May 10, 2010, 10:00:04 AM
i'm not sure why you guys need adena ? to do what with it ? there is NOTHING on the market yet, no armors, no weapons . you want adena to buy soulshots ? only thing you can do with adena is buy mats, but i don't think anyone is that stupid to sell them ? on my chars i have like 5kk adena on both (~70 destro ~68 wc) ... i buy mats as soon as i see them. trust me .. adena is useless and will always be useless .. it's just a reference in trading. mats >>>> adena.
nono.. adenas pay sedonds class.. CHs and items.. opk now are C grade.. but wait the ppl start to sell B or A grade. in a server 3x adena 20kk is too much money! and ppl hare make 30kk in some hours. u think that is normal? if GMs leave the posibility to make adena whit coins, ok congratulation for it.. but the damage is done. The ppl who start after this, dont go to have any posibility to make 2,4kk to buy the second class whit 3x adena in 40 lvls.. and u will have.. some guys very richs.. and alot others.. very poors.. its balanced economy for u?
I dont undestand why GMs dont make a Test server 1 week to test it.. is better make a restart now that in 1 month..
Quote from: MumM on May 10, 2010, 10:58:56 AM
+111 for this guy.. guys we are trying to help the server, bigging for the only way to resolve this. Is a rollback 1 hour after "errog GM" (i want to explain something.. the ppl who use this eror is not a exploiter.. becos buy weapons in 0 adenas and sold the crystals from this, GM put the price, so we dont force the game to make a error.. we just buy weapons in the GM price)
Whit this litle rollback all "problems" who make the ppl whit adena from error.. would be truly fixed.
About coins.. this weapons, pay Clan halss, and 3 CH just for 1 clan... sendons and first class of 99% of this server.. make too much rinch some guys.. make the money to equip full clans.. in a server 3x adena drop u think that is normal?
never go to work if dont make a fvcking roll back.. and from 0! and eave the posibity to trade/sell/cryztallice weapons for coins..
i have no idea about providing server.. but i see alot of time hou finish servers whit this tipe of errors, or whit GMs stubborn like this... Empy!
we say? too much ppl want a final fix for it! Gms fvck the server to the start and now finish to kill it.
what community? clans are leaving... the comunity is go on..
I have my dwarves "temporally" banned.
Probably you dont care. It is my problem, not yours. Be sure I am not going to create new dwarves.
I have not used walker or any software or illegal tool to exploit server. My dwarves went to shop bought goods for cero adena (not my responsability) and kept crystals, money and weapons.
They did not accumulate much couse I was sure a rollback was certain.
The information about items for cero adena and the way to get adena selling cristals was published in forum.
It is normal to buy things sold at shops.
It was your mistake.
Quite easy to correct. Roll back of several hours.
You didnt do it. Who kows why?. Either no database available or lack of intelligence, dunno wich is worse. The solution you chose doesnt correct problem of huge amounts of adena-materials accumulated and has banned players and left them out, probably forever
Players banned for not illegal actions. Not for using a bug. Just a mistake of server owners.
I have been lucky, just Imagine a ban like this after playing a year in server?
Banning players for this issue is unfair, ilogical and is going to cost you many players. It is not a funny thing to level up a crafter, and get all recipes.
Pity of server. At the beguinning even thinking about donating if server was worth, but it is not, for sure.
Quote from: darkcore on May 10, 2010, 04:42:35 PM
+1
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GM will confess
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PS. many players got banned for this stupid issue
btw wasnt our fault if someone put weapons for 0 adena in shop
( GO AND PUNCH THE RETARD WHO DID SHOP TABLES NOOB DBA)
if you ^Torn^ or who did such stupid thing to shop are idiots, players have to pay your retarness ?
something like this happens at 1st week of ``new server´´
pfffffffffff srsly... i cant even imagine the next ``idiotic GMs action´´
are u noob? show me server who havent any problems at start? and pls stop flaming if u dont liek it leave it no1 cares about u
Quote from: darkcore on May 09, 2010, 08:52:40 AM
when i found they FORGOT to put price for weapons in shop i buy some of them and putted em in WH
only BCZ if GM has a bit of brain he will make a rollback instead doing Ban
also i tell ^Torn^ hey man i got stuff in my wh better make rollback
quote from Descent
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Now, those who got the ban, after the extra amount of item/adena/crystals has been taken away they will get their characters back but this will take some time so we had to ban all of them for now to stop the situation from going bad to worst.
Topics regarding wipe/rollback - This is not necessary, as I said the main event was taking place during the off peak hours of the server and most of those who had the chance were far too busy creating accounts upon accounts to store their goods for later use.´´
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and also this gives more reason to do a rollback bcz ``off peaks hours´´ so there was only few people playing
GZ for the idea `` lets put weapon in shop for 0 adena and then ban all who touch those´´
you are my hero.
temp ban or perma ban for this stupid thing
it is full or morons using l2w
i never used l2w and i never will
i trained my char from 0 to 58 burning my eyes at front of screen
i dont care anymore about x9
i wont play here
You shouldnt have cheated so you wouldnt have gotten banned... Cheat - always bad ^^. So it`s your own fault dude
Quote from: SpoilerAngel on May 10, 2010, 06:00:17 PM
You shouldnt have cheated so you wouldnt have gotten banned... Cheat - always bad ^^. So it`s your own fault dude
What cheat OMFG, Gm put that price 0 adena on weapons so is normal ppl buy cheap weapons, i try to whisp to gm for 5 hours before SERVER DOWN, i droping maybe 500 weapons c grade on giran to 300 ppl. because i was sure for wipe or rollback. Clan desertores have a lot of adena members of his clan told me that they make a bid of 999,999,999 So gm how u can check that ? Other ppl make chars and put 30kk on each 1 for freight whare, Other ppl put adena on clan wharehouse, Other ppl buy many soul cristals and normal cristals, Other ppl buy a lot of spirit ores, Other ppl buy a lot of bssc and b.
Whit ur coint sistem u freak this. GZ for that
I told u NICE FIX.
Thiis server is full of tards now i know why ... even the staff are ...
Even when the server was not up we ( Some nm's players ) knew that this server will fail ... QQ we all bet on the fail :/
Moreover at the start it failed . . . not like Frintezza or even the servers like Survival - Renewal ect ...
In game mby every hour don't remeber you shooted the number of players on and the number of shop maker ... but u didn t count the number of bots cause on 1000 players there are more than 500 bots ...
Now an exploit ... you made the bad choice to solve it mby it means you are not the good gms you think you are ...
Quote from: DogsAreSoCute on May 10, 2010, 06:54:57 PM
Thiis server is full of tards now i know why ... even the staff are ...
Even when the server was not up we ( Some nm's players ) knew that this server will fail ... QQ we all bet on the fail :/
Moreover at the start it failed . . . not like Frintezza or even the servers like Survival - Renewal ect ...
In game mby every hour don't remeber you shooted the number of players on and the number of shop maker ... but u didn t count the number of bots cause on 1000 players there are more than 500 bots ...
Now an exploit ... you made the bad choice to solve it mby it means you are not the good gms you think you are ...
corrections... 1k player him say.. and u say 500 are bots.. but u miss something.. him check amount of "Chars" conected.. not IPs. i know 1 guy and just 1 guy who conect more of 6 chats at same PC. and is just 1 guy. So, if GMs say 1k player... are arond 300 guys whit 3 Chars EVERY1
Quote from: MumM on May 10, 2010, 07:56:48 PM
corrections... 1k player him say.. and u say 500 are bots.. but u miss something.. him check amount of "Chars" conected.. not IPs. i know 1 guy and just 1 guy who conect more of 6 chats at same PC. and is just 1 guy. So, if GMs say 1k player... are arond 300 guys whit 3 Chars EVERY1
Does it matter?
Quote from: MumM on May 10, 2010, 07:56:48 PM
corrections... 1k player him say.. and u say 500 are bots.. but u miss something.. him check amount of "Chars" conected.. not IPs. i know 1 guy and just 1 guy who conect more of 6 chats at same PC. and is just 1 guy. So, if GMs say 1k player... are arond 300 guys whit 3 Chars EVERY1
maybe 2 player with 499 boxes? Same possibility like your theory: without any proof...
Lol you guys are too funny. Nothing will change obviously....because if GM's cared it would have been done already. Its no use getting your blood pressure up about it lol, if you will play then play. Im only playing here to have fun with some friends, ofc im not taking this server seriously anymore ::) coin system is big lol, not rollback server or wipe is also big lol.
Quote from: Kazuki on May 10, 2010, 08:53:20 AM
let me bet, that come from someone who don't care about the economy being freaked up because he's full of adenas thank to his exploit ? ;)
But yeah, that's so freaking normal that first player could make 10kk within few hours with coins system at the start and that new players will get those 10kk after maybe days.
You only think about yourself because you have the adenas, think also of new players because without new players, the server will die... is it hard to get ?
well you dont know me, you would loose your bet.
i play l2 5,5 years, w/o l2w, exploits, etc. and in that time i figured out how to make adena normal way. besides its still beyond my imagination how some ppl can be satisfied and proud of themselfs if they are using such stuff.
so please, stop insulting me and accusing me from some illegal actions when you absolutely dont know me.
Quote from: vecktor on May 10, 2010, 06:36:11 PM
What cheat OMFG, Gm put that price 0 adena on weapons so is normal ppl buy cheap weapons, i try to whisp to gm for 5 hours before SERVER DOWN, i droping maybe 500 weapons c grade on giran to 300 ppl. because i was sure for wipe or rollback. Clan desertores have a lot of adena members of his clan told me that they make a bid of 999,999,999 So gm how u can check that ? Other ppl make chars and put 30kk on each 1 for freight whare, Other ppl put adena on clan wharehouse, Other ppl buy many soul cristals and normal cristals, Other ppl buy a lot of spirit ores, Other ppl buy a lot of bssc and b.
Whit ur coint sistem u freak this. GZ for that
I told u NICE FIX.
is true.. is not a esploit.. GM put the price.. so we buy it, and make crys.. i dont undestand why GM leave my money.. i want my money back <.< i dont make nothing ilegal.. i just buy a weapons and i sell the critals in stores..
Quote from: nolimits on May 10, 2010, 09:50:56 PM
well you dont know me, you would loose your bet.
i play l2 5,5 years, w/o l2w, exploits, etc. and in that time i figured out how to make adena normal way. besides its still beyond my imagination how some ppl can be satisfied and proud of themselfs if they are using such stuff.
so please, stop insulting me and accusing me from some illegal actions when you absolutely dont know me.
anybody say that u use walker.. we are saying the 99% of the ppl that now have more of 2kk of adena and pay the second class, doit whit coins.. and some clans pay CH whit it.. and to much ppl have weapons from the bugg.. money in new chars.. money in freigit traders.. buy to much Spirit ore to leter sell... ppl have now crys from the weapons Zero adenas.. so we dont understand what GM do, to fix it...
If there was a simple wipe + removal of coin system. Everybody would stop b1tching lol. For those who are cry about wipe because they spend too much time already (1 week lol) on server big fkin deal, what will you do leave server and go somewhere else? you will have to start from there 0 too xD. The real players want to play a real game not a joke game. Jokes are for 5000x. I think DN is too proud to do a wipe though :) everybody know this is joke server already so i think will be less embarassing to just start the fuker over.
Quote from: darkcore on May 10, 2010, 10:01:03 PM
man this is dragon network ( 6 years )
it is supposed if they open a new server to attract new players at least they should put staff with brain
i alrdy leaved here you freaktard
you call this ``problem´´ this is the great stupid thing ever saw in DN
``players got ban bcz some db dev forgot to put price in shop´´
JeEbok tell me when ^TrackZero^ did a mistake like this i bet NEVER bcz he got BRAINS
when Drake uploaded bad code to a fixed RB ? NEVER MAN NEVER
those ^Torn^ and Descent are just NOOBS.
are you stupid right ?
cheat ? no one cheated you dumb
if i put weapons in shop for 0 adena and i didnt warn in forum or in any place ``you will get ban if you touch these´´
is that cheating ?
do no try to defend some stupid GMs action bcz it wasnt our fault
+1 before this long time in exp on server of L", 1 server of DN cant have this stupidserrors. And before open a server normaly, GM put the server in BETA test... whit the idea of "TEST IT" and dont fell stupids errors like this.
Quote from: Boolets on May 10, 2010, 10:10:22 PM
If there was a simple wipe + removal of coin system. Everybody would stop b1tching lol. For those who are cry about wipe because they spend too much time already (1 week lol) on server big fkin deal, what will you do leave server and go somewhere else? you will have to start from there 0 too xD. The real players want to play a real game not a joke game. Jokes are for 5000x. I think DN is too proud to do a wipe though :) everybody know this is joke server already so i think will be less embarassing to just start the fuker over.
sorry but i dont think that DN servers are a joke server.. the problem are in this "joke admins" i have a char in Infinity created like 4 years ago.. and some weeks ago i log my old acc and my chars keep alife.. so i dont think so that DN is a joke server.
Quote from: MumM on May 10, 2010, 10:16:54 PM
sorry but i dont think that DN servers are a joke server.. the problem are in this "joke admins" i have a char in Infinity created like 4 years ago.. and some weeks ago i log my old acc and my chars keep alife.. so i dont think so that DN is a joke server.
Im not talking about DN...dn is awesome...valkyria is a joke server :P
Quote from: Boolets on May 10, 2010, 10:18:32 PM
Im not talking about DN...dn is awesome...valkyria is a joke server :P
Well say
ok i see now what gms will do whit the server... nothing important. like deve coments in this thread.
u cna close it now.