http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,220389.0.html
Since that, Valki is foked like all DN's servers...
This server was said to be unoque, without donation system and what now...?
I am wondering when we'll be able to donate OE weapons...
Your words are worth sh1t.
Just n/c
less QQ more PEW PEW <3
Ahhh... Dragon kids here...
Am I right?
Quote from: PolSilv3r on June 06, 2010, 01:40:35 PM
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,220389.0.html
Since that, Valki is foked like all DN's servers...
This server was said to be unoque, without donation system and what now...?
I am wondering when we'll be able to donate OE weapons...
Your words are worth sh1t.
Just n/c
Just another bad invfluence on server, let me tell you some facts:
- You cant donate for Icaurs or DNet sets
- You cant donate for enchants
- You cant donatefor anything expect for Donation coins
- You cant donate for Raid Boss jewels
- All items that you can buy at donation manager you can get them faily in game by spoiling/farming/doing quests/killing without even a donating a penny
- Donations are made to keep server alive , and there is nothing at donation NPC that can make other players OP more then you
- Donations are made also for people who have a lot to do in real life and dont have time to grind/farm .... but still love lineage as game and would like to play fairly (fast) geared when they spare some times for it
So all your annoying whine is based on other Dragon-Network servers, we are different and we will stay like that which you can see by looking at our Conny , nothing that can make other OP regarding other players . In the end we have to pay bills somehow? Or you will do it for us?
Thanks, i hope i was clear .
Quote from: PolSilv3r on June 06, 2010, 01:40:35 PM
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,220389.0.html
Since that, Valki is foked like all DN's servers...
This server was said to be unoque, without donation system and what now...?
I am wondering when we'll be able to donate OE weapons...
Your words are worth sh1t.
Just n/c
Where they f2ck you read that?
Those coins are tradable ?
Quote from: Bav3 on June 06, 2010, 02:53:56 PM
u cant donate for s80 and dynasty? but u can donate for coins and buy them in donny
dont u think that u should make donations by steps
1st 2 month of donations only a grade, after s grade, and after 6 month s80
its kinda stupid to see ppl in s80 after 1 month of server
its kinda stupid to see c grade walk near s80 guys
it's kinda stupid they stay without money ;D
some prices are not adjusted, horn is coins + adenas like on 15x, but 1 adena here = 100 adenas on 15x
Quote from: Torn on June 06, 2010, 02:19:13 PM
Of course nope.
wtf? xD Coins won't be tradeable?
Quote from: Bav3 on June 06, 2010, 02:53:56 PM
u cant donate for s80 and dynasty? but u can donate for coins and buy them in donny
dont u think that u should make donations by steps
1st 2 month of donations only a grade, after s grade, and after 6 month s80
its kinda stupid to see ppl in s80 after 1 month of server
its kinda stupid to see c grade walk near s80 guys
Yea but you can also farm S80 with quests and with Killing raids.
As far as i remeber you complained (not you as you i mean in general people) that they made C grade too fast (and yea by my opinion is too fast.)
Also remeber 1 thing, once some people got dynasty (from donations or by craft/drop) you will be available to get them from market too without donationg, also you will be able to buy coins with adena then you have to know how to make adena but there i cant help you. So market will wake up even more.
Quote from: bourrin on June 06, 2010, 02:56:53 PM
some prices are not adjusted, horn is coins + adenas like on 15x, but 1 adena here = 100 adenas on 15x
Obviosuly you didnt check Conny on Valkyria.
Quote from: Torn on June 06, 2010, 02:19:13 PM
Of course nope.
wtf?how canot be trdable,this is bullshit,you must make coins tradable,is cool and make other value to all items...
Quote from: k0rina on June 06, 2010, 03:00:36 PM
bav idea is good ... at least keep at donation now only b/a/s grades and after 1-2 even 3 months put also s80
so with that way also u will still get some donations u expect and people wont cry
But k0ri who care that they will have 400 p def more or 100 m def :D
remember skill>item
Just LOL. GZ. Witch clan can kill Glaky or another boosted boss, without dyna? Money, money money.
Quote from: k0rina on June 06, 2010, 03:03:33 PM
i dont have problem :) personally
but i dont wanna serv get less people cuz of that.. becouse i like server and it have good future as seems
With donation future is much better.
Quote from: Left Hand of Devil on June 06, 2010, 03:02:31 PM
Just LOL. GZ. Witch clan can kill Glaky or another boosted boss, without dyna? Money, money money.
Yyy, We?
Torn:
Coins must be tradable.
Quote from: Left Hand of Devil on June 06, 2010, 03:02:31 PM
Just LOL. GZ. Witch clan can kill Glaky or another boosted boss, without dyna? Money, money money.
Actually raids are -20% power down on Valkyria! Word word word
Quote from: Torn on June 06, 2010, 02:58:02 PM
Obviosuly you didnt check Conny on Valkyria.
that's why u just changed price of horn
don't lie thx and respect players
Quote from: bourrin on June 06, 2010, 03:16:57 PM
that's why u just changed price of horn
don't lie thx and respect players
Anyway Retail price is a bit expensive I think. Should be also 40 DC :P
Quote from: Torn on June 06, 2010, 03:05:38 PM
Actually raids are -20% power down on Valkyria! Word word word
GG. Fail Gm.
Quote from: Bav3 on June 06, 2010, 03:21:13 PM
y all is fine with that but i think its to early for that step with s80 weapons
i think its much better for u and server if u make donations by steps
1st few month only a/s
after few month s80/dynasty
ull get 2x donations, 1st for a/s equip, and after for s80 and dynasty
while now ull get donation only once, ppl will donate for s80/dynasty they will be full equiped and they wont donate anymore
more donation steps=more money ;)
Thats why we waited 2months ,also you must understand this is Hellbound you start with all things regarding items , same thing they do on official and then next step is challenge. So we opened what is available in Hellbound client + waited 2 months and i think generally all reached a-s grade.
Quote from: Torn on June 06, 2010, 03:32:05 PM
Thats why we waited 2months ,also you must understand this is Hellbound you start with all things regarding items , same thing they do on official and then next step is challenge. So we opened what is available in Hellbound client + waited 2 months and i think generally all reached a-s grade.
A grade vs Donated Dyna. GF. :D
Quote from: Tidus19 on June 06, 2010, 03:08:08 PM
Coins MUST BE TRADEBLE !!!!
Not, moment they make it trade-able, you'll freak up economy even more and once again adena becomes worthless.
You GMs better be joking !
There is not even 1 full set S grade c4 and, still half server C grade,after 5week server live u leave s80 on donations ???
2 coins Lunargent?????
Then HERO its becoming a feature for donators this mont ? and next even worse?
What about Forgotten scrolls?
If u GMs dont know it, there are some difference between Forgotten scrolls!Almost all lvl 81 Forgoten scrolls are drops from EPIC bosses ONLY , but u left them witht the same price as for dropable FG in lvling areas... wow
I advise to shut down Conny npc asap, and recosinder some prices and items left there.
Torn check PM.
Congratulation to the umpteenth fail of your beloved admins.
Wondering how fair can be seeing half of server wearing C grade , and the other side running with lame dinasties and other S80 shitty items.
No doubt they'll also introduce the coins system tradable so l2walker users will be even happier:D
Another freaked up DN server..
Thanks god i turned off even OG walkers in the last week because of bot ocean.
why so much noise? there are already ppl selling stuff on valkyria for RL money.
Quote from: Torn on June 06, 2010, 01:51:18 PM
- All items that you can buy at donation manager you can get them faily in game by spoiling/farming/doing quests/killing without even a donating a penny
Oh yes, of cource, you can farm it all (spoil, quest and e.t.c.) IF U WILL CAN, when you'll go on bosses in Karmian and Avadon and your donated enemy will killing you for thosand times, just for fun. As far as I can imagine, the first thing that donated clans will do is starts hold Golka and other bosses. Like it was on Dragon few years ago. Common people was dying and thinking about donate, coz there are no chance for them to farm that things. Its LA and everyone should be in the same conditions! Quote from: Torn on June 06, 2010, 01:51:18 PM
- Donations are made to keep server alive , and there is nothing at donation NPC that can make other players OP more then you
Why starts the new server without donations if you know, that it cant survive without that ?!?!? So, start it with Donny from first day, why are you cheating people after they decide to kill their time for play here ???Quote from: Torn on June 06, 2010, 01:51:18 PM
- Donations are made also for people who have a lot to do in real life and dont have time to grind/farm .... but still love lineage as game and would like to play fairly (fast) geared when they spare some times for it
OOoooh yeeees, its all for casual gamers who dont have time ... ))) LOL
I had playing in LA for 5 years. Few years here, couple years in off servs. The one thing I defenitely can say: 99 % of donators is nolifers who plays 24/7/365
If you care about casual ppl in game swith Vitality system of exping like in Gracia when your exp is higher when you plays a little. Maybe its not impossible for Hellbound, I understand, but donations its not thw way in this situation.All I can say, life of Valkyria goes on, but it'll change a lot of things here, and it's really sad ((
Quote from: Madferrit on June 06, 2010, 06:18:36 PM
Oh yes, of cource, you can farm it all (spoil, quest and e.t.c.) IF U WILL CAN, when you'll go on bosses in Karmian and Avadon and your donated enemy will killing you for thosand times, just for fun. As far as I can imagine, the first thing that donated clans will do is starts hold Golka and other bosses. Like it was on Dragon few years ago. Common people was dying and thinking about donate, coz there are no chance for them to farm that things. Its LA and everyone should be in the same conditions!
Why starts the new server without donations if you know, that it cant survive without that ?!?!? So, start it with Donny from first day, why are you cheating people after they decide to kill their time for play here ???
OOoooh yeeees, its all for casual gamers who dont have time ... ))) LOL
I had playing in LA for 5 years. Few years here, couple years in off servs. The one thing I defenitely can say: 99 % of donators is nolifers who plays 24/7/365
If you care about casual ppl in game swith Vitality system of exping like in Gracia when your exp is higher when you plays a little. Maybe its not impossible for Hellbound, I understand, but donations its not thw way in this situation.
All I can say, life of Valkyria goes on, but it'll change a lot of things here, and it's really sad ((
+1
Stop posting and start farming yea ! ;D
I dont know why u made this topic, like you don't know Dragon-Network, it had to happen :)
Still most of you wont leave server :)
Enjoy the game ! ;)
Quote from: Grosse on June 06, 2010, 07:09:38 PM
Stop posting and start farming yea ! ;D
I dont know why u made this topic, like you don't know Dragon-Network, it had to happen :)
Still most of you wont leave server :)
Enjoy the game ! ;)
That's why most of DN is completely freaked up , 'Cause of people like you.
You'r Just gonna see another server ruined by retarded updateds without say anything?
Quote from: Bav3 on June 06, 2010, 09:19:39 PM
Descent:
Icarus weapons
They will not be at the donation manager. Icarus weapons are only available through crafting.
did i miss something? ;D
icarus or dynasty its same for me s80
cant compare with c grade stuff wich other ppl use
True, both are S80 but... Icarus weapon > Dynasty weapon
Quote from: Torn on June 06, 2010, 03:32:05 PM
Thats why we waited 2months ,also you must understand this is Hellbound you start with all things regarding items , same thing they do on official and then next step is challenge. So we opened what is available in Hellbound client + waited 2 months and i think generally all reached a-s grade.
as ppl said before, it's been 5 weeks, and what is more, most of this time server crashed as hell, there were item laggz and other sh1ts.
You think that ppl with a grades will be equall to ppl with s80?!
e.g. two guys started in the same time, after one moth of the server one was a real pr0 player, a bit no-lifer who farmed his a first a grades, while the second one used walker to exp, didnt care about moneyz and donated for s80 full set eq.
is it fari that the second one will pwn the first one just because he has moneyz? don't think so.
I guess DN is all about donation, moneyz=eq and eq > skill sad, but true.
there's been alot of good priv servers that didnt allow donating for items, which would make unbalanced gameplay...why valkyria won't be one? :(
Quote from: Tidus19 on June 06, 2010, 03:08:08 PM
Coins MUST BE TRADEBLE !!!!
Yep... Allegro waiting ;)
Quote from: Dhart on June 06, 2010, 07:24:11 PM
That's why most of DN is completely freaked up , 'Cause of people like you.
You'r Just gonna see another server ruined by retarded updateds without say anything?
i loled man ! :)
I dont care about donation, im playing when i got free time and i am bored :)
And you dont have any sense of humour !
For me its not ruinning server but it helps..
But i see you are touched by my words (i too don't iknow how :D) :/ sorry :*
Quote from: Grosse on June 06, 2010, 11:31:26 PM
i loled man ! :)
I dont care about donation, im playing when i got free time and i am bored :)
And you dont have any sense of humour !
For me its not ruinning server but it helps..
But i see you are touched by my words (i too don't iknow how :D) :/ sorry :*
You forgot to add that you play in a neutral clan without no wars ;)
Quote from: PolSilv3r on June 06, 2010, 01:40:35 PM
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,220389.0.html
Since that, Valki is foked like all DN's servers...
This server was said to be unoque, without donation system and what now...?
I am wondering when we'll be able to donate OE weapons...
Your words are worth sh1t.
Just n/c
(I just found this link on ur MSN)
sorry I didnt read another posts here
Valkyria is foked since started, couse all servers r + - same >>> not solved botting problem (bringing even thousands of GM will not ban all bots, better make real anti bot system)
donation is not problem since they use brain (yes they used to be carefull with money question), it will be always by admin, gm or normal players who "spent" a lot of time in game.
Quote from: Grosse on June 06, 2010, 11:31:26 PM
i loled man ! :)
I dont care about donation, im playing when i got free time and i am bored :)
And you dont have any sense of humour !
For me its not ruinning server but it helps..
But i see you are touched by my words (i too don't iknow how :D) :/ sorry :*
I might not have sense of humour , but at least I use brain before spreading out bullshits like you do.
bla bla bla as usual !!
i did hear somewhere that valkyria have no donation system , though its no big deal .
Quote from: PolSilv3r on June 06, 2010, 01:40:35 PM
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,220389.0.html
Since that, Valki is foked like all DN's servers...
This server was said to be unoque, without donation system and what now...?
I am wondering when we'll be able to donate OE weapons...
Your words are worth sh1t.
Just n/c
any way Poly..
i guess u should consider playing other online games :)
Quote from: Dhart on June 07, 2010, 12:22:45 AM
I might not have sense of humour , but at least I use brain before spreading out bullshits like you do.
Maybe you are using "brain" but for a ahort period of time cuz u don't want to make it tired..
I see you are looking for attencion insulting me so I wont talk with you anymore (no wanna take your time intended for farming) :)
Quote from: PolSilv3r on June 06, 2010, 11:35:53 PM
You forgot to add that you play in a neutral clan without no wars ;)
dunno if it was irony ?
We dont have wars for now :) I am not interested in only pvp clan :)
Quote from: Gloim on June 06, 2010, 11:48:09 PM
(I just found this link on ur MSN)
sorry I didnt read another posts here
Valkyria is foked since started, couse all servers r + - same >>> not solved botting problem (bringing even thousands of GM will not ban all bots, better make real anti bot system)
donation is not problem since they use brain (yes they used to be carefull with money question), it will be always by admin, gm or normal players who "spent" a lot of time in game.
yeah agree +1
we need some simple but effective antibot system, a lot of private servers have it and its very effective
IF U DO DONATOR COINS TRADEABLE U GET MANY ALLEGRO.PL EBAY.COM SELLERS ON SERVER :D
Quote from: Grosse on June 07, 2010, 08:09:51 AM
Maybe you are using "brain" but for a ahort period of time cuz u don't want to make it tired..
I see you are looking for attencion insulting me so I wont talk with you anymore (no wanna take your time intended for farming) :)
dunno if it was irony ?
We dont have wars for now :) I am not interested in only pvp clan :)
No arguments ? , another fail wannabe pro. bye. Farm harder so you can reach donators.
Quote from: Xaxaos on June 07, 2010, 03:15:38 PM
IF U DO DONATOR COINS TRADEABLE U GET MANY ALLEGRO.PL EBAY.COM SELLERS ON SERVER :D
lol are u think what u told, i can donate, then sel on ebay item's like S80 ;]
how can you "find" bots if you don't know how "botting" even works. there are not that many "bot friendly" places on the map and people mostly bot in places where they get a material benefit out of it .. give gm speed / teleport options / ability to check IP .. and in 1 week i'll reduce the server's populaton by 50% at least
Quote from: tzuc on June 07, 2010, 03:32:04 PM
how can you "find" bots if you don't know how "botting" even works. there are not that many "bot friendly" places on the map and people mostly bot in places where they get a material benefit out of it .. give gm speed / teleport options / ability to check IP .. and in 1 week i'll reduce the server's populaton by 50% at least
I vote for NO ;)
Quote from: Ryoko on June 06, 2010, 01:53:09 PM
Those coins are tradable ?
Quote from: Torn on June 06, 2010, 02:19:13 PM
Of course nope.
:) So who said that donation is going to fck another server? ::)
Open your eyes :) I can only see tears from 2 kinda of ppl - 1st who dont like donation at all and 2nd for allegro sellers :P
Both are kinda useless on private servers :)
Enjoy the game! =P
Quote from: tzuc on June 07, 2010, 03:32:04 PM
how can you "find" bots if you don't know how "botting" even works. there are not that many "bot friendly" places on the map and people mostly bot in places where they get a material benefit out of it .. give gm speed / teleport options / ability to check IP .. and in 1 week i'll reduce the server's populaton by 50% at least
+1
Quote from: Xaxaos on June 07, 2010, 03:15:38 PM
IF U DO DONATOR COINS TRADEABLE U GET MANY ALLEGRO.PL EBAY.COM SELLERS ON SERVER :D
allegro.pl owns mate :D :D
Quote from: MingSan on June 07, 2010, 07:53:19 PM
:) So who said that donation is going to fck another server? ::)
Open your eyes :) I can only see tears from 2 kinda of ppl - 1st who dont like donation at all and 2nd for allegro sellers :P
Both are kinda useless on private servers :)
Enjoy the game! =P
The HUGE quantity of Donator coins was caused by the HUGE amount of donation made out by people , Even if they won't be tradable , the fact the the amount of coins will be too big won't change
also dupe ;)
About dynasty, only weaps are actually worth, because armors without bonuses just sux.
And why they didn't made tradeable coins? Because they are afraid of selling portals like ebay etc. But why? Ppl are already selling their gear, chars etc, is it diffrence if they sell it in coins? And remember, that those allegro sellers of coins are ones who really make money for you, because they don't get coins from ass, they donate them and then sell for like 1 cent more, to some ppl who don't actually have Visa/Mastercard, or don't want to buy 200 coins, just 5.
But coins are tradeble, i was joking as i said before in my previous posts, why not to make them , -.-
Quote from: Kerth on June 08, 2010, 08:45:37 AM
About dynasty, only weaps are actually worth, because armors without bonuses just sux.
And why they didn't made tradeable coins? Because they are afraid of selling portals like ebay etc. But why? Ppl are already selling their gear, chars etc, is it diffrence if they sell it in coins? And remember, that those allegro sellers of coins are ones who really make money for you, because they don't get coins from ass, they donate them and then sell for like 1 cent more, to some ppl who don't actually have Visa/Mastercard, or don't want to buy 200 coins, just 5.
dynasty sets are kinda fine when u put wanted prof to it
Quote from: Torn on June 08, 2010, 12:11:52 PM
But coins are tradeble, i was joking as i said before in my previous posts, why not to make them , -.-
No comment.
Quote from: Torn on June 08, 2010, 12:11:52 PM
But coins are tradeble, i was joking as i said before in my previous posts, why not to make them , -.-
lol :)
Western Union FTW! Faster,easier,safer way to donate.Coins on char in just 1 min! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Btw make donate possible also via sms or even mms ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D is easy just establish a phone center-number and get the normal 65% of the amount of money that sms costs.Ah yes i forgot it demands a command and hmm lets say a kind of points that u will trade for coins ig and commands are difficult nowadays. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
My vote is donate via sms. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
P.s. I hope all of u can understand the sense of humour including my friend Torn. ;D
P.p.s. Is just a bit funny also to see complains about donate.Come on guys u are on dragon-network lol u knew it from beggining come on.Also is funny to see patrick and moorhunt to ask if coins are tradeable ;D.
Whatever until the next time cu around my friends hf and pk 'em all. 8)
Quote from: Torn on June 08, 2010, 12:11:52 PM
But coins are tradeble, i was joking as i said before in my previous posts, why not to make them , -.-
same shit other name :S:S
Quote from: PolSilv3r on June 06, 2010, 01:40:35 PM
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,220389.0.html
I am wondering when we'll be able to donate OE weapons...
Just be patient :)
Quote from: Torn on June 08, 2010, 12:11:52 PM
But coins are tradeble, i was joking as i said before in my previous posts, why not to make them , -.-
Is it the only joke from your side?
Quote from: PolSilv3r on June 08, 2010, 08:18:18 PM
Is it the only joke from your side?
Well i made a joke because its more then logic that coins should be tradeable since if not, it means only people who donate can have coins, which is quite wrong cause later you will be able to get coins from market for adena or items trade, so making coins non tradeable is quite out of any logic if you wanna have them run on market for everyone, that why i made ironic post ("Ofc not"), cause i tought it was quite obvious.
Anyway dont bring the dust of something when there is no need for it.
could you please finnaly reply to my question?
I can see your replies everywhere but not in my thread.
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,220293.msg2170979.html#msg2170979
thanks in advance.
Quote from: Torn on June 08, 2010, 08:26:39 PM
Well i made a joke because its more then logic that coins should be tradeable since if not, it means only people who donate can have coins, which is quite wrong cause later you will be able to get coins from market for adena or items trade, so making coins non tradeable is quite out of any logic if you wanna have them run on market for everyone, that why i made ironic post ("Ofc not"), cause i tought it was quite obvious.
Anyway dont bring the dust of something when there is no need for it.
Ok, thx for clear answer.
Quote from: Torn on June 08, 2010, 08:26:39 PM
Well i made a joke because its more then logic that coins should be tradeable since if not, it means only people who donate can have coins, which is quite wrong cause later you will be able to get coins from market for adena or items trade, so making coins non tradeable is quite out of any logic if you wanna have them run on market for everyone, that why i made ironic post ("Ofc not"), cause i tought it was quite obvious.
Anyway dont bring the dust of something when there is no need for it.
The only crap you pointed out in this post was that you want to make coins tradable in order to allow everyone to have them , wich is the same reason that ruined all the servers of DN , Gratz.
Quote from: Torn on June 06, 2010, 01:51:18 PM
Just another bad invfluence on server, let me tell you some facts:
- You cant donate for Icaurs or DNet sets
- You cant donate for enchants
- You cant donatefor anything expect for Donation coins
- You cant donate for Raid Boss jewels
- All items that you can buy at donation manager you can get them faily in game by spoiling/farming/doing quests/killing without even a donating a penny
- Donations are made to keep server alive , and there is nothing at donation NPC that can make other players OP more then you
- Donations are made also for people who have a lot to do in real life and dont have time to grind/farm .... but still love lineage as game and would like to play fairly (fast) geared when they spare some times for it
So all your annoying whine is based on other Dragon-Network servers, we are different and we will stay like that which you can see by looking at our Conny , nothing that can make other OP regarding other players . In the end we have to pay bills somehow? Or you will do it for us?
Thanks, i hope i was clear .
I wanna know how many will got S80 gear via craft... Before the first man crafts here any S80 weapon/armor/jewels there will be already 500+ peeps using s80 from Donation Manager... And thoose super low prices?? are just Ridiculous