for become a hero you need 30+win and 50+ match if you are lonely at class ? :-\
Quote from: IChaosWalkerI on June 12, 2010, 01:02:42 PM
for become a hero you need 30+win and 50+ match if you are lonely at class ? :-\
Yes
Sux. If we can play on oly only with main class, then make retail like oly too.
Quote from: Toszi on June 12, 2010, 04:59:41 PM
Sux. If we can play on oly only with main class, then make retail like oly too.
suy yourself... this is very good option preventing few nolifers to get 5-6 heroes each.
Quote from: nolimits on June 12, 2010, 07:14:11 PM
suy yourself... this is very good option preventing few nolifers to get 5-6 heroes each.
there are not nolifers in this server just a bunch of sleepovers walker users
Quote from: baraan on June 12, 2010, 10:05:09 PM
there are not nolifers in this server just a bunch of sleepovers walker users
You are so wrong... There are plenty no lifers or how ever you wanna call them.
Quote from: deiwidaz on June 12, 2010, 10:28:03 PM
You are so wrong... There are plenty no lifers or how ever you wanna call them.
yep, im one of them :D
Quote from: Toszi on June 12, 2010, 04:59:41 PM
Sux. If we can play on oly only with main class, then make retail like oly too.
you suppose to ask nc soft about it :>
Problem here is not retail on Oly.
Problem is that one dwarf for example must make min 50 matches and min 30 wins ...
I don't see how without transfer points someone can become here ...
there are 5 heroes on this server, they had 20+ points when they start fights. Lets say they feeded themselves, there is not enough points to everyone make 50 fights and win/loose in 5 ppl team. so conclusion is you need 9 fights at least 1 won .
Quote from: k0dex on June 13, 2010, 10:52:53 AM
there are 5 heroes on this server, they had 20+ points when they start fights. Lets say they feeded themselves, there is not enough points to everyone make 50 fights and win/loose in 5 ppl team. so conclusion is you need 9 fights at least 1 won .
All what you said is wrong.
Quote from: deiwidaz on June 13, 2010, 11:06:56 AM
All what you said is wrong.
All what he said is true. This oly system is ok whit stack sub, but with retails its good only for oly pwnzor classes. I would like to see how you will have 50 fight and 30 win with an archer for example(except feeding), but with a summoner its so easy. This oly system isnt fair. And if nobody can win/feed enough on 5-6 classes vs 1 guy, then the problen is not in this nolife, but in others who play the same class.
Quote from: Toszi on June 13, 2010, 12:28:36 PM
All what he said is true. This oly system is ok whit stack sub, but with retails its good only for oly pwnzor classes. I would like to see how you will have 50 fight and 30 win with an archer for example(except feeding), but with a summoner its so easy. This oly system isnt fair. And if nobody can win/feed enough on 5-6 classes vs 1 guy, then the problen is not in this nolife, but in others who play the same class.
Ok, i will quote his msg and show whats wrong in it.
Quote from: k0dex on June 13, 2010, 10:52:53 AM
there are 5 heroes on this server
4 heroes.
Quote from: k0dex on June 13, 2010, 10:52:53 AM
there is not enough points to everyone make 50 fights and win/loose in 5 ppl team.
How about win one fight to clan mate and lose other one?
Quote from: k0dex on June 13, 2010, 10:52:53 AM
so conclusion is you need 9 fights at least 1 won .
http://www.dragon-network.net/xml/valkyria/hero.xml
Now lets back to you:
Quote from: Toszi on June 13, 2010, 12:28:36 PM
This oly system is ok whit stack sub, but with retails its good only for oly pwnzor classes.
I would like to see server with balanced oly. Stack sub disbalance oly even more.
Quote from: zippobg on June 13, 2010, 08:14:41 AM
Problem here is not retail on Oly.
Problem is that one dwarf for example must make min 50 matches and min 30 wins ...
I don't see how without transfer points someone can become here ...
you will see ;)
QuoteI would like to see server with balanced oly. Stack sub disbalance oly even more.
I didnt say i want oly with stack sub. Oly is much better with retail classes, all what i said, this oly system is made for stack sub system, and its isnt fair for many class, which not oly pwnzor, like archers, sws, warlord and so on, cause imposible to make 50 fight/30 win this classes, cause you dont have enough point to do it, if you wont be feeded hero....
I would really like GM's to read my post and take this serious, please do not flame on this post.
I dont know what experience you got on olympiad or if you have played olympiad once, but as a player that knows oly pretty well for some years i can tell you thats pretty impossible for characters like archers, dwarfs, swordsingers, bladedancers, to achieve hero status right now at this server or even later on. Right now with the low quantity of nobless ppl and the pretty low activity on olympiad games making 50 fights winning 30 of them its like asking a cow to fly! you can tell me oh blablabla already swordmuse hero blablabla, yes but that was when server had almost no one nobless and that 4 guys did fights between each other to reach those fights, so please, im not telling you that this is bad, im telling you that right now with this server population and the fresh server status its completly stupid to keep olympiad like this.
Please consider my words and ask any question you want, you should at least reduce it to 20 fights with 8-9 wins max..
/moah
dude ur talking to someone that makes over 300 matches every month on all the servers i played im not talking about my or about the characters like destroyers paladins gladiators elven elders warlocks and so on, try get a swordsinger and go make 50 fights surviving oly farmers with just 30 points, if u pass 20 fights u are my hero! dont talk about something u dont know or just dont be stupid...
Quote from: Bav3 on June 13, 2010, 10:14:02 PM
wanna hero?
take oly seroiusly and play it like it should be
50 match isnt alot while u can be hero even with 1 pt
Retard detected.
About som1 who was quoting me, 4 heroes = less point to split.
how about 1 win 1 loose to feed all? cant be done its too much double matches.
I bet its retail oly here and this topic would have some point when any lazy admin wrote how many fights we need, simple.
Quote from: k0dex on June 14, 2010, 01:28:06 PM
how about 1 win 1 loose to feed all? cant be done its too much double matches.
'Cant be done' but somehow we have 4 heroes in server who did it. Denying facts rofl.
Quote from: k0dex on June 14, 2010, 01:28:06 PM
About som1 who was quoting me, 4 heroes = less point to split.
And? Does it change the fact that to become hero need to have 50 matches and 30 wins?
And conclusion is:
Quote from: k0dex on June 14, 2010, 01:28:06 PM
Retard detected.
For what QQ if you sucks... none care
I just see retarded and pathetic oly system with no chance for support classes, feeding oly is noob oly, som1 disagree?
I guess the problem with the oly that the server doesn't have enough player. I mean a server with 2k online and half of them play 10matches in 1 month its 10k matches. When you register to oly with that much ppl you have chance for winning. But we have very low ppl playing oly. So if you register to oly almost for sure gonna meet an OP char who have good stuff etc. And you gonna loose and you register again and you meet him again. Its because only 5ppl registering.
I remember when I played on Infy I always played on oly on the last day of the month cause much more ppl registered that day. And always managed to win some matches altough i had sh1tty equip.
I dont believe that the 10matches 1win would be a solution for oly cause if it'd be like that It would be much easier to feed and you still cant be hero with supports. And I'm not saying this 50 match 30win is good. I think the number of matches almost egal. The number of players what matters.
u will see if when oly farmers will be active if there is any dwarf or support that cant kill sh1t with enought points to be hero with 50 match counts and 30 wins, first of all they wont be able to reach 50matches and even less 30 wins...
later on u will see many ppl complaining about this, i just dont care keep that retarded thoughts about how oly is and u will go rly far lol...
Its not about online. You cant have enough point to play 50 matches with an archer, sws, bd, and so on, if you wont be feeded, thats the problem. About "join with friends and make heroes": do you realy think to be a feeded hero is so good? I dont think so, but if you yes, then good for you.
Quote from: Bav3 on June 14, 2010, 06:10:13 PM
if arena with 50 online have 50/30 and all are hero then valkyria with 500+- can have heros also
find friends join together make heros dont cry
noob oly without any point. the diference between arena and valky is that we have retail main oly not dn subclassed, and bishops or ee are in deep dark ass
Quote from: Bav3 on June 15, 2010, 12:03:53 AM
if u think that bp and ee cant kill noone on oly then u are rly stupid, but rly
Since active augments works in oly, ee, bp, pp will be oly farmer characters, just like summoners and tanks. The problem is with other characters, as i said befor, like bd, sws, archers, dwarfs, etc.
Quote from: Toszi on June 15, 2010, 12:27:27 AM
Since active augments works in oly, ee, bp, pp will be oly farmer characters, just like summoners and tanks. The problem is with other characters, as i said befor, like bd, sws, archers, dwarfs, etc.
Drake made nice solution for it . Just donate the best items now when other are wearing 'sh1tty items' and u will be pwning with bd/sws/archer/dwarf. After few times of being hero u will be strong enough to defend it by urself ;)
In 4 words .. Welcome to dragon network ;)
yea but not yet, now w/o agu make 30 wins on bishop, plz Bav3 dont make me laugh, damn clown.
Its rearded to play oly style of all DN servers, bcos they have main stacksubbed, end of story.
YOu dont have arguments vs this, now you will say stop QQ or you will change point of discussion, wont u?
If you watch closely the number of matches each of 4 heroes win/loose, you will figure that they were feeding eachother.After all, are all the same clan, after all, is not that hard to win a match and loose the next one.How the hell elseway some1 can reach hero with 30 wins and 29 losts ??
I wish them luck when enough people will have the level, gear, guts to participate on oly.These are not real heroes, just people with low or no ocuppation other than l2, who played more than the others and reached some 80 level in short period of time.Don`t mean to insult anyone, but this is how i see the facts