Poll
Question:
Armor s-grade recipies 60% for coins ?
Option 1: Yes
Option 2: No
Me and Torn were thinking of adding s-grade 60% ARMOR recipies at the coin shop, trade 8k platinum coins - 60% armor recipies. It is not supposed to be cheap, it's just an additional way to gain recipies. I would even consider 10k. Please vote on the poll and post opinions WITHOUT flaming eachother, everyone is entitled to his own opinion
agree with lecktor. if u wanna put s-grade recipes put them at dony for d.coins
Quote from: Lecktor on June 19, 2010, 10:57:10 AM
or increase spoil rate for recepie's
whit coin recepie's spoilers be come useless
Gr8 Idea. +1
Totally unacceptable idea, sry....
It will be again grat options to set bot and farm platinum coins....
Higher spoil rate is a good thing to change..
regards
vote : no.
add that rec's at donny or increase spoil % .
and btw fix kamael skills thx.
if we thought it was great idea we would have just made it :). that's why we ask your opinion
Train makers gotta be a rich! NO! Retarded idea. No offence GM staff but with every single added crap u killin dworf''s game and u was sayin that u wanted server with long life! In that way hard to reach 1 year.
Quote from: Meto on June 19, 2010, 12:32:01 PM
Train makers gotta be a rich! NO! Retarded idea. No offence GM staff but with every single added crap u killin dworf''s game and u was sayin that u wanted server with long life! In that way hard to reach 1 year.
we didn't add this, we were considering it. that's why we ask you. in my opinion 10k coins is harder to get than spoil that recipe .. and 60%. it's not added to replace spoil but as an alternative .. remember
10.000 Platinum Coins
Quote from: Lecktor on June 19, 2010, 10:57:10 AM
or increase spoil rate for recepie's
whit coin recepie's spoilers be come useless
+1
it's definitely bad idea..
Maybe soon u will consider about dynasty recipes for coins..
For like 30k Platinum coins, its a good idea.
BTW all the ones that say this would kill dwarves, S grade rec spoil are custom made from Dnet, this mean, on retail, the only way to get S rec are from quest, SO the spoilers arent supposed to be able to get it, you dont kill dwarves because adding rec from coins
Quote from: Bav3 on June 19, 2010, 01:19:30 PM
10 k is rly low
if u gona do this make at least 30-40 k coin
but 40k coin for 60% recipe is so much. nobody will exchange it.. (i think 15k is ok, u need 5*15k for S grade 60% set..)
imo if u wanna put S grade recipes make somehow untradeable the crafted items also, so spoil will not lose its sense
OR fix the spoil rate ;)
You need new type of coins for that, somethink what can be dropped only by" specific mobs" (from festival for example) or mobs with hpx3/4/5... from Cruma Tower, Giants Cave, LoA or on rift.
no
If you make poll for "Yes" and "No" botters will agree for sure.
This will kill spoil in FOG and other places and will make new unbalance in server ...
What will be next? Dynasty weapon and armor recs? Or Icarus weapon rec?
My vote is for NO!!!
no gtfo :> Better make Raid Bosses easier to kill :>
NO NO NO.
well it is a good idea and bad idea in a one.
1. good - will be easier to every normal - not donator player to gain S grades (and ppl without spoiler)
2. bad - well, ppl wrote above why it is bad : P
Quote from: zippobg on June 20, 2010, 10:17:44 AM
If you make poll for "Yes" and "No" botters will agree for sure.
This will kill spoil in FOG and other places and will make new unbalance in server ...
What will be next? Dynasty weapon and armor recs? Or Icarus weapon rec?
My vote is for NO!!!
c'mon vote on yes, let me botting abit ;]
NO NO NO
What you should do is advertise more guys......server has very few people on it, it's not normal to know the dwarfs name in Giran, the ones who are in offline shops.
As for S 60% recepies I vote NO, dont kill spoilers, spoil rate is very low as it is.....oh and another thing, now people make spoil partie sin high hunting grounds, and they havr to make parties for that, thus resulting that clans lvl their support chars, sws, bd, tanks, healers etc. If you guys decide to put recepies for platinum coins, u will have a server full of dmg dealers and destros, because no1 will lvl support chars anymore.
TY and remeber ADVERTISE MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: ChujoZord on June 20, 2010, 10:42:47 AM
no gtfo :> Better make Raid Bosses easier to kill :>
+1
Vote No , to anything which encourages solo play ...btw instead of all this , jaila how about thinking and planning to get a good bot protector ?:P
Quote from: Lecktor on June 19, 2010, 10:57:10 AM
or increase spoil rate for recepie's
whit coin recepie's spoilers be come useless
you disagree coz ppl gonna get S grade without Donating huge money to get what you have got ? :)) in my opinion its quite fair.. you got money we gonna get platinums ;F
when u ppl gonna stop asking players what to do with your own server and use your own brain?
IN best case u will just get subjective result based on average IQ of players and this is just not what it takes for server to function well. Unless u think all forum users are all highly intelligent, which is highly unlikely. Looking at some posts here on forum u could say half forum users have light mental retardation. There are some serious cases also, and they are likely owners of many bot accounts used for voting on this forum.
If u dont know what to do on your own server, then just give it up to someone who knows what he is doing.
Three cases/outcomes:
1: Overwhelming positive reaction => GMs can happily add the feature
2: Overwhelming negative reaction => GMs will not add the feature
3: Anything else, they will use their discretion
They are doing a nice thing here and getting a feel for the feature. Of course this poll is not directly going to decide if the GMs will add it or not, but its a feeler. To see how such things would be received by the current player population in the server. This is very considerate of the GM since they do not want to lose players due to this and such. Of course, if you can detect noobs on the forums posting nonsensical stuff, the GMs can too and it will factor into the decision process.
Hope this helps you understand, Srecko.
Quote from: bsrealm on June 21, 2010, 03:07:34 AM
Three cases/outcomes:
1: Overwhelming positive reaction => GMs can happily add the feature
2: Overwhelming negative reaction => GMs will not add the feature
3: Anything else, they will use their discretion
They are doing a nice thing here and getting a feel for the feature. Of course this poll is not directly going to decide if the GMs will add it or not, but its a feeler. To see how such things would be received by the current player population in the server. This is very considerate of the GM since they do not want to lose players due to this and such. Of course, if you can detect noobs on the forums posting nonsensical stuff, the GMs can too and it will factor into the decision process.
Hope this helps you understand, Srecko.
Speaking generally now, not only about this poll.
In 1st case.. Chances ppl choose option that will benefit server are not any higher than chances they will choose bad option. Poll wont really help u make right decision, just one that won at that time(1 month latter it might be other way around)
in 2nd case.. same like 1st, if something have to be done for good of the server, doesnt mean it will be popular.
in 3nd case... why u made the poll in 1st place? 1 option will win anyway, so, if u dont do accordingly, u will look like u are not listening to your customers. Bad move in any business.
U can make poll for example.. do u want nick color change available on donny, or what kind of event u want.. or what ever that doesnt severely affect the server.
But asking ppl if they want s grade recipes for free? or if they want higher adena/spoil rate?
Come on, u have to do lot of math and testing to find good solution. This things will determine future of the server, u really want random ppl on forum to decide them based on their mood?
Now, i ask all of u ppl voting.. do u think more than 2 seconds before u click yes or no on all poles? How often do u change your opinion after u voted? How many of u voted on poll just because your friends told u to vote? And how many of u have more than 1 forum account that u use only to change poll results?
speaking generally about all polls, not only this one.
Valid points, but don't you agree polls are still useful to kinda pick the brain of the others. You know, let others do some of the "math" as in your example. Like when people talk about spoil rates and quests being the usual way to obtain S recipes, etc. It just generates a lot of comments and perspectives the GMs can draw upon before making their final decision?
About the customers being dissappointed, I think they will understand and appreciate that they have been heard in an open and fair space?
(I think we are kinda diverting from the core thread, so perhaps we should resume our discussion in PMs :))
NO! For sure...
S grade is for top ppl. Not for normal players. These days you can make 20k of Platinum Coins in less then 24 hours.
easier rb-more teamwork, clan gameplay, mass pvp, no bots on coins, real l2. dziekuje dobranoc.
Quote from: bsrealm on June 21, 2010, 05:08:57 AM
Valid points, but don't you agree polls are still useful to kinda pick the brain of the others. You know, let others do some of the "math" as in your example. Like when people talk about spoil rates and quests being the usual way to obtain S recipes, etc. It just generates a lot of comments and perspectives the GMs can draw upon before making their final decision?
About the customers being dissappointed, I think they will understand and appreciate that they have been heard in an open and fair space?
(I think we are kinda diverting from the core thread, so perhaps we should resume our discussion in PMs :))
Yes i agree polls can be useful, discussions are nice to have. But some things are better not to be discussed, u have to make them your way and u have to think and analyze them. And that u cant get from the poll.
Anyway, back on topic..
Free s grade recipes? sounds fun! lets have it! i wanna have S grade in 1 week!
+1 YES, its good option for bots... like whole server :P
U killed server with this coins any way.
Soon 50 ppl on server max
GJ