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Title: Servers merge ?
Post by: lasombra on July 12, 2010, 09:32:02 PM
What You think about merge servers ?
Make 1or 2 bigger servers, not 4 small.
Valkyria open was shot in own foot I think....many ppl leaved from oldest servers.

If Admins merge servers we can have more fun again, and from many years there are discussions "who is the best" :) So we can know it at least.  ;)

What do You think about this ?
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: BraverPT on July 13, 2010, 12:17:45 AM
that would be awsome
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: SmiteMe on July 13, 2010, 12:39:26 AM
Close all except Valkyria and it will make merge.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Dhart on July 13, 2010, 12:43:22 AM
Quote from: SmiteMe on July 13, 2010, 12:39:26 AM
Close all except Valkyria and it will make merge.
Actually , valkyria system sux
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: 6bIK on July 13, 2010, 01:52:14 AM
Quote from: SmiteMe on July 13, 2010, 12:39:26 AM
Close all except Valkyria. and it will make merge.

;D
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: palladine on July 13, 2010, 12:49:57 PM
Quote from: lasombra on July 12, 2010, 09:32:02 PM
What You think about merge servers ?
Make 1or 2 bigger servers, not 4 small.
Valkyria open was shot in own foot I think....many ppl leaved from oldest servers.

If Admins merge servers we can have more fun again, and from many years there are discussions "who is the best" :) So we can know it at least.  ;)

What do You think about this ?
Nice idea :) but what about the rate differences???
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: lasombra on July 13, 2010, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: palladine on July 13, 2010, 12:49:57 PM
Nice idea :) but what about the rate differences???


what problem is make x7 or x10 ? Make some little compromise.  Most of ppl even not notice different.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Lianie* on July 13, 2010, 03:09:39 PM
No.

- DN lost already enough Players
- different Rates, Donations, Servers

If you want to merge Servers, would be the only "good" way for players,
to delete the database.

You simply can not just merge 4 different rates, servers etc.
Would definitly not work.

Jass*
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: windoo on July 13, 2010, 03:14:07 PM
Well Lianie i dont get you ;p
You are denying every idea so i ask you what you would do to help with situation at the moment.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: LegolasIII on July 13, 2010, 03:33:28 PM
merging servers = transfering chars with equipment to one? or just closing all servers and opening a new one.
i would be happy with the 2nd solution but i dont think this is gonna happen ^^
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Lianie* on July 13, 2010, 05:09:35 PM
Quote from: Torek [IF] on July 13, 2010, 04:43:10 PM
imho 10x would be the best. a new fresh air will come (fresh air = flames  :D)



*Jass

First, my Name is Jasmine, not yours, second better to give answer "why" insteed of "do"
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: DrAkhoo on July 13, 2010, 05:16:31 PM
Quote from: Lianie* on July 13, 2010, 03:09:39 PM
No.

- DN lost already enough Players
- different Rates, Donations, Servers

If you want to merge Servers, would be the only "good" way for players,
to delete the database.

You simply can not just merge 4 different rates, servers etc.
Would definitly not work.

Jass*
What won't work? Do you got any idea what merge means?
You got no idea.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Lianie* on July 13, 2010, 05:22:29 PM
Yes i do..

try google and search for austrian server, you might could find them @ L2x  :P

Gameover 4 you :P
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: X3B on July 13, 2010, 05:52:44 PM
Quote from: Lianie* on July 13, 2010, 05:22:29 PM
Yes i do..

try google and search for austrian server, you might could find them @ L2x  :P

Gameover 4 you :P

No, you dont.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Ashlynn on July 13, 2010, 05:53:37 PM
Quote from: Lianie* on July 13, 2010, 05:22:29 PM
Yes i do..

try google and search for austrian server, you might could find them @ L2x  :P

Gameover 4 you :P
nuuu, you cannot use "might" and "could" in one sentence >.< :D
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: X3B on July 13, 2010, 06:14:57 PM
Quote from: Ashlynn on July 13, 2010, 05:53:37 PM
nuuu, you cannot use "might" and "could" in one sentence >.< :D

Grama nazi...
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Lianie* on July 13, 2010, 06:20:32 PM
sorry my english aint that good, never really spoke it + im austrian :P
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Ashlynn on July 13, 2010, 06:21:59 PM
Quote from: Lianie* on July 13, 2010, 06:20:32 PM
sorry my english aint that good, never really spoke it + im austrian :P
Apologize accepted :D
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: LegolasIII on July 13, 2010, 06:42:22 PM
there goes another spam topic
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: windoo on July 13, 2010, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: LegolasIII on July 13, 2010, 06:42:22 PM
there goes another spam topic
I think in that way it will stay up and someone maybe will interest in that topic.
Quote from: Ashlynn on July 13, 2010, 05:53:37 PM
nuuu, you cannot use "might" and "could" in one sentence >.< :D
Haha you're crazy about grammar and it's scaring me still ;d
Quote from: Torek [IF] on July 13, 2010, 06:31:43 PM
*jASS
Such`a rude boy! xDDD
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: lasombra on July 13, 2010, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: Lianie* on July 13, 2010, 03:09:39 PM
No.

- DN lost already enough Players
- different Rates, Donations, Servers

If you want to merge Servers, would be the only "good" way for players,
to delete the database.

You simply can not just merge 4 different rates, servers etc.
Would definitly not work.

Jass*

Can You explain me why it will be not work ? Couse "no becouse no" it's stupid way of thinking.
Why I cannot merge "different" servers ? (btw different ? where are those differences?)
Different donations ? where ??
Different rates ? After so many years of playing here (and new players are rly less) there is totally no difference between stuff on inf/nm/dragon. And You think You notice different between x15 and x10 ? In what ? You make quests for newbies andcount 2,5k more ? Show me some difference plix. I really wanna know it...
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Ashlynn on July 13, 2010, 08:33:51 PM
Quote from: lasombra on July 13, 2010, 08:15:07 PM
Can You explain me why it will be not work ? Couse "no becouse no" it's stupid way of thinking.
Why I cannot merge "different" servers ? (btw different ? where are those differences?)
Different donations ? where ??
Different rates ? After so many years of playing here (and new players are rly less) there is totally no difference between stuff on inf/nm/dragon. And You think You notice different between x15 and x10 ? In what ? You make quests for newbies andcount 2,5k more ? Show me some difference plix. I really wanna know it...
Actually, there is a HUGE difference between stuff on f.e. NM and Dragon.. :)

And well, there were already several topics concerning merging and if I recall well, GM's said it would be really difficult or maybe even impossible to do. :)
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: X3B on July 13, 2010, 08:44:33 PM
Quote from: Ashlynn on July 13, 2010, 08:33:51 PM
Actually, there is a HUGE difference between stuff on f.e. NM and Dragon.. :)

And well, there were already several topics concerning merging and if I recall well, GM's said it would be really difficult or maybe even impossible to do. :)

Same as change mail or make same mail for few accounts >.>
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Shreed on July 13, 2010, 09:42:59 PM
only problems are nicks i think :P

coz if there is for exemple some player called: "JOKER" and same nicks are on NM and dragon and Infi :P

Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Furesy on July 13, 2010, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Lianie* on July 13, 2010, 05:09:35 PM
First, my Name is Jasmine, not yours, second better to give answer "why" insteed of "do"
She is actually right, it is impossible to merge the, lets say, 3 original DN servers (Dragon, Nightmare, Infinity)
It was suggested to Drake multiple times and we talked about it a few times as well (since at first I didn't know why I couldn't be done either) Drake said that in theory it is possible, but it would require a huge amount of work and time, as all items and characters would collide, the 3 databases use the same system, so the entire systems would override each other and simply collide on each possible front. The most simple problem is the amount of nicknames that would be the same that all need to be changed or fixed in some way or another, the same goes with a lot of item codes and so forth.

Jasmine nice name btw. Reminds me of Aladdin.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: 6bIK on July 13, 2010, 10:49:32 PM
Quote from: DKociak on July 13, 2010, 09:24:19 PM
i dont care about oe equip....with my ic set and not full boss jevel set (armor , jevel all +3...skills +9...) i dont have big problem with oe naabz
i wanna meet Dragon Pro owners with full DN /icarus sh1iet...i wanna see ur tears OE NAABZ

who care what sh1t u have? ;]
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: DrAkhoo on July 13, 2010, 11:18:42 PM
Quote from: Lianie* on July 13, 2010, 05:22:29 PM
Yes i do..

try google and search for austrian server, you might could find them @ L2x  :P

Gameover 4 you :P
Really, you don't know what merge means.
And for you as well Furesy, merge is possible, if drake is an epic retard lazy ass mofo, it doesn't means it's impossible . It is possible and NCSoft did that already . It's quite easy if drake knows he's programing that is. Seems he became kinda dumb, or lazy, or even both, and he just simply doesn't care.
A script for the names is , again a rather easy thing to do. Adding a NM to all chars from a certain NM db, and so on, wouldn't be a problem for drake, the almighty coder. A CH / Fortress / Castle reset, again wouldn't be a problem , and for freaks sake, what does system has to do when all he needs is to take the chars from 2 servers and move them on the 3ed? He needs time for what? To  set up a schedlue  click some shit and go wank as he usually does? Zomfg, he just fooled you Furesy.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Furesy on July 13, 2010, 11:36:33 PM
Quote from: DrAkhoo on July 13, 2010, 11:18:42 PM
Really, you don't know what merge means.
And for you as well Furesy, merge is possible, if drake is an epic retard lazy ass mofo, it doesn't means it's impossible . It is possible and NCSoft did that already . It's quite easy if drake knows he's programing that is. Seems he became kinda dumb, or lazy, or even both, and he just simply doesn't care.
A script for the names is , again a rather easy thing to do. Adding a NM to all chars from a certain NM db, and so on, wouldn't be a problem for drake, the almighty coder. A CH / Fortress / Castle reset, again wouldn't be a problem , and for freaks sake, what does system has to do when all he needs is to take the chars from 2 servers and move them on the 3ed? He needs time for what? To  set up a schedlue  click some shit and go wank as he usually does? Zomfg, he just fooled you Furesy.
And I for one wouldn't want my name altered and have some NM added to it, as Drake said himself, too many problems would occur and to many people would complain as well.
About moving 2 servers to a third, would mean he needs another server setup and hardware, which he said himself, he won't do since it costs too much and since he no longer likes L2, he doesn't want to do it. (and wiping one was no option according to Drake)
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: eastarhun on July 14, 2010, 12:40:48 AM
I don't think merge would be  a good idea. The rates are not the same...
Making wipe on all of them and then create a new server is another thing! That would work I think. But the donators would cry rivers about that...
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: DrAkhoo on July 14, 2010, 01:09:07 AM
Quote from: Furesy on July 13, 2010, 11:36:33 PM
And I for one wouldn't want my name altered and have some NM added to it, as Drake said himself, too many problems would occur and to many people would complain as well.
About moving 2 servers to a third, would mean he needs another server setup and hardware, which he said himself, he won't do since it costs too much and since he no longer likes L2, he doesn't want to do it. (and wiping one was no option according to Drake)
Well, I would've expect you and drake, already know that, criers, will be the whole time around us. Now they cry that servers are dying, if he does that, again, wtf bla bla bla bla.
Problems, yes of course after all it's not a 1+1 = 2 operation, but impossible, let's be real, it is not by far impossible.
He coulde'ev done that before Valkyrie went up or on he's test server, I guess he still has it , and after that, an upload on a central server.
Numbers do tell the truth , you got Infinity, Dragon and Nightmare , 3 servers, 3 machines , 3 times more money for the host while it's more economical to merge them, if he don't have the money to open a new machine server.
A less populated server will bring less money due to the boring and loosing the server feeling, having an 2k server would bring more action, more enthusiasm and more donations.
I believe you that he dosn't care about L2, I think the same, but I do think he cares about the income he get's from here. I know I did some nice money, and that was as a player, I don't even want to know the real numbers, I might get jealous :D
So getting back to the subject, as I said in the previous post, and you kinda admitted it, he can do it but he won't.
P.S. He won't wipe a server to make this merge because....? He wants the servers to die and he can say " I never wiped my servers! " ? That is one retard owner lol.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Rausis on July 14, 2010, 01:52:04 AM
Lets wipe an merge then together :D
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Teh noob on July 14, 2010, 07:06:05 AM
if the staff does a wipe, the farmers will commit ritual suicide, compared to which, mayan sacrifices will look like a condom compared to zeppelin airship.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: WscieklyWaz on July 19, 2010, 03:26:59 PM
Nice idea, but too many lazy ppl on board....
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Gonzal on July 19, 2010, 06:00:40 PM
Dont give them that idea!!!
Item wipe = mass donation = farmers will leave = only dony online xD
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Neozinhu on July 20, 2010, 05:05:06 AM

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Dragon Char, isnt mine, just one link to remember me why 15x is sak
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Furesy on July 20, 2010, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: Neozinhu on July 20, 2010, 05:05:06 AM
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Dragon Char, isnt mine, just one link to remember me why 15x is sak
That was on NM as well
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: TheLox on July 20, 2010, 02:43:45 PM
Quote from: Neozinhu on July 20, 2010, 05:05:06 AM
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Dragon Char, isnt mine, just one link to remember me why 15x is sak

What the? lol
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Rudi on July 20, 2010, 04:09:32 PM
give us one c4 server
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: trooperXkoki on July 20, 2010, 10:47:12 PM
Quote from: Neozinhu on July 20, 2010, 05:05:06 AM
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Dragon Char, isnt mine, just one link to remember me why 15x is sak
no gloom no balancelife, sux :D
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Fildonka on July 20, 2010, 10:58:55 PM
AiO char;) Euros can do miracles;)
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Deavon on July 21, 2010, 01:33:24 AM
Drakhoo you are wrong to the part about Drake .
Drake does give a freak about the servers ,i was and i am talking with him almost on daily bases
and i have run unlimited tests for him in game ,before a update poped up about everything .
All i want to say is that Drake is alive and cares .BUT   I ll tell you one thing that he DOES NT give a freak as well
thats forum ,he is totally sick of all cryers/qqers/haters and even blackmailers (you can lol here but its true) .
And yes he is almighty coder ,i wish to have a 10% of coding knowledge he has .
Call me licker ,call me GM-friend or whatever you want but i m telling you the truth how it is and not theorys .
I guess Furesy can confirm my words more or less .

On the Subject , a merge imo is the last move before a server is going to close ,a last hope lets say .
Tho i m possitive to that scenario cause i ll be able to find people to Varka/Blazing Swamp and rest pvp areas 24/7 and i wont have
to camp with bots to find a single wartag to Varka .
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: DrAkhoo on July 21, 2010, 02:06:10 AM
Quote from: Deavon on July 21, 2010, 01:33:24 AM
Drakhoo you are wrong to the part about Drake .
Drake does give a freak about the servers ,i was and i am talking with him almost on daily bases
and i have run unlimited tests for him in game ,before a update poped up about everything .
All i want to say is that Drake is alive and cares .BUT   I ll tell you one thing that he DOES NT give a freak as well
thats forum ,he is totally sick of all cryers/qqers/haters and even blackmailers (you can lol here but its true) .
And yes he is almighty coder ,i wish to have a 10% of coding knowledge he has .
Call me licker ,call me GM-friend or whatever you want but i m telling you the truth how it is and not theorys .
I guess Furesy can confirm my words more or less .

On the Subject , a merge imo is the last move before a server is going to close ,a last hope lets say .
Tho i m possitive to that scenario cause i ll be able to find people to Varka/Blazing Swamp and rest pvp areas 24/7 and i wont have
to camp with bots to find a single wartag to Varka .

No offence Deavon, your a cool guy, but in my book, when you care about something, you work for that something, And tbh, as a mere player , I didn't saw shit. So taking a short but logical conclusion, imo he doesn't care.
And no reason to call you an ass licker , your not that kind of person.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Furesy on July 21, 2010, 01:50:09 PM
Quote from: Deavon on July 21, 2010, 01:33:24 AM
Drakhoo you are wrong to the part about Drake .
Drake does give a freak about the servers ,i was and i am talking with him almost on daily bases
and i have run unlimited tests for him in game ,before a update poped up about everything .
All i want to say is that Drake is alive and cares .BUT   I ll tell you one thing that he DOES NT give a freak as well
thats forum ,he is totally sick of all cryers/qqers/haters and even blackmailers (you can lol here but its true) .
And yes he is almighty coder ,i wish to have a 10% of coding knowledge he has .
Call me licker ,call me GM-friend or whatever you want but i m telling you the truth how it is and not theorys .
I guess Furesy can confirm my words more or less .
Confirmed!
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: greg270 on August 02, 2010, 11:32:07 PM
valkirie its mistake, and  , only promises, abaut no bugs and no donations, so promises not bean made, just simple close it

fix bugs on old servers, maybe more ppl will com back
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Shreed on August 07, 2010, 03:54:55 AM
Quote from: greg270 on August 02, 2010, 11:32:07 PM
valkirie its mistake, and  , only promises, abaut no bugs and no donations, so promises not bean made, just simple close it

fix bugs on old servers, maybe more ppl will com back

there was only 1 way to get some new players on DN ... and it was "fresh server" (valkyrie) but they didnt realize that those "new players" are bunch of shit faildozers clans that changing servers every week and sooner or later they will realize that valkyrie is just a copy of our old servers + some small bonuses. i was reading x9 forum to see wahts going on there. They dont change even epic rbs. there is hard to kill OP valkaas/frintezza even on x30 where players have OP eq icarus dnets etc.. and they put same RBs on fresh server where most of ppl are wearing a grades :P anyway this new server is ONE BIG MISTAKE so back to the point: There is only 1 way to save the Dragon Network and to make it you need to keep old players in game and try too get back players who left server not "new players" coz they will never understand Dragon Network (this is hard even for old players :P)
Merge the servers ASAP ! befor the rest of players will move out ..

dunno what is currently online on x15 but x30 and x5 was always simillar so you should get around
~400 players from x30
~400 players form  x5
and i think around 800 ? from x 15
~around 400 should back form valkyrie

so it will be around 2 k players which still playing and i think mannny of old DN players will back after merge and you will see that DN is alive again ...

ahh and btw,,, kick out those shitty gms and set up Track Zero as main GM after merge coz its only man with common sense form this bunch of noobzors :PPP

Regards
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Neozinhu on August 07, 2010, 05:25:47 AM
Quote from: Shreed on August 07, 2010, 03:54:55 AM
there was only 1 way to get some new players on DN ... and it was "fresh server" (valkyrie) but they didnt realize that those "new players" are bunch of shit faildozers clans that changing servers every week and sooner or later they will realize that valkyrie is just a copy of our old servers + some small bonuses. i was reading x9 forum to see wahts going on there. They dont change even epic rbs. there is hard to kill OP valkaas/frintezza even on x30 where players have OP eq icarus dnets etc.. and they put same RBs on fresh server where most of ppl are wearing a grades :P anyway this new server is ONE BIG MISTAKE so back to the point: There is only 1 way to save the Dragon Network and to make it you need to keep old players in game and try too get back players who left server not "new players" coz they will never understand Dragon Network (this is hard even for old players :P)
Merge the servers ASAP ! befor the rest of players will move out ..

dunno what is currently online on x15 but x30 and x5 was always simillar so you should get around
~400 players from x30
~400 players form  x5
and i think around 800 ? from x 15
~around 400 should back form valkyrie

so it will be around 2 k players which still playing and i think mannny of old DN players will back after merge and you will see that DN is alive again ...

ahh and btw,,, kick out those shitty gms and set up Track Zero as main GM after merge coz its only man with common sense form this bunch of noobzors :PPP

Regards

Nice reply....

but just to add....with merge...some ++++++++ weapons probally would be wiped (hai dragon jedi server!!), and there's the DNET sets...that arent allowed @ 9x... imo...server can stay alive w/o them... and gain moar action tbh...since the dyn would be usefull for all
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: kandhavel on August 11, 2010, 08:30:19 AM
As announced a few weeks ago, we will merge the Age of Conan servers before the Christmas Holidays. Today we want to give you some detailed information about how these merges will happen and what this will mean for you, the players.

We will be spreading the server merges over the next few weeks so not all the servers will be merged at the exact same time. It is important to us to ensure that the merge process goes as smooth as possible. Therefore it is vital that we spread out the work rather than doing these complicated processes all at the same time in order to minimize possible risks.

The first servers that will be merged are the US servers ‘Bloodspire’ and ‘Hyperborea’. The list of servers for the next merges will be published shortly.

It is important to know that during the time servers will be merged, all servers of the same territory (US or EU) will not be available. This means that during this week's downtime - where the two above mentioned servers are merged - all US servers will be unavailable. The exact duration of such a downtime will be announced soon but we do expect them to be longer than the usual update downtime.

When the merge process is complete we will be giving all active subscribers an appropriate amount of free game-time to compensate for the additional downtime required for the merges. The details of this will be communicated once the merge process is complete.

It’s important for us to ensure the best game-play experience for you all, and more healthy populations on each and every server will make sure we maintain healthy communities for the game in the future.
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Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: WindPhoenix on August 21, 2010, 12:49:09 PM
Quote from: DKociak on August 03, 2010, 11:10:32 AM
are two problem with merge....same nicks on servers and rate...
rate can be adjusted. And the nicknames problem: if there are two chars with same name on 2 servers, they can get a name tag, like [Nm]Pwnz0r and [DN]Pwnz0r
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Furesy on August 21, 2010, 05:13:54 PM
Personally I would only play on a server without Boss Jewels and without Custom Items like DNet sets, just B & A grade sets all the way, and make S grade EXTREMELY hard to get, and only through 7 signs, freak Baium, Antharas and Valakas. Best times on Lineage 2 were C2/C3 when entire server was in B grade and only a few in Majestic and DC set, only the rich and old players were in A grade. And people PvP'ed in B grade and every skill was useful since a lot landed with everyone having no boss jewels at all. Plus people PvP'ed a lot, since Castles were the best things you could get.

Nowadays it is just sitting in town all day waiting for the dungeon bosses to spawn so people can move their ass and go kill it (yay fun!, not)

Boring...
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Gonzal on August 21, 2010, 05:37:18 PM
Quote from: Furesy on August 21, 2010, 05:13:54 PM
Personally I would only play on a server without Boss Jewels and without Custom Items like DNet sets, just B & A grade sets all the way, and make S grade EXTREMELY hard to get, and only through 7 signs, freak Baium, Antharas and Valakas. Best times on Lineage 2 were C2/C3 when entire server was in B grade and only a few in Majestic and DC set, only the rich and old players were in A grade. And people PvP'ed in B grade and every skill was useful since a lot landed with everyone having no boss jewels at all. Plus people PvP'ed a lot, since Castles were the best things you could get.

Nowadays it is just sitting in town all day waiting for the dungeon bosses to spawn so people can move their ass and go kill it (yay fun!, not)

Boring...
It will be more fun if u fight for the RB....
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: ChillyWilly on August 22, 2010, 01:13:19 AM
I get nervous when you guys start talking about stuff like a merge...  aside from people not wanting their char's nicks changed, what about those who, like me, play on several of the servers already?  (well, ok, I'm not active on the others now, but I still don't want to lose my chars there  example:  one account, 7 chars on Dragon, 2 on NM, 5 on Arena, and 1 on Valky.  If we merge, what happens to the extra chars?   It's like killing off parts of me ...
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Furesy on August 22, 2010, 01:44:57 AM
Quote from: Gonzal on August 21, 2010, 05:37:18 PM
It will be more fun if u fight for the RB....
Fighting for the dungeon bosses became lame the moment they started dropping Raid jewels, everyone just camped town and waited for them to spawn, only no-lifers camped those raids all the time to make sure to always get the jewels. From that very moment people stopped leaving towns unless it was for a dungeon boss, hence, lame.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: WindPhoenix on August 22, 2010, 03:31:52 PM
Quote from: Furesy on August 22, 2010, 01:44:57 AM
Fighting for the dungeon bosses became lame the moment they started dropping Raid jewels, everyone just camped town and waited for them to spawn, only no-lifers camped those raids all the time to make sure to always get the jewels. From that very moment people stopped leaving towns unless it was for a dungeon boss, hence, lame.
that was never the real reason, what a flawed judgement.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Furesy on August 22, 2010, 03:36:24 PM
Quote from: WindPhoenix on August 22, 2010, 03:31:52 PM
that was never the real reason, what a flawed judgement.
Really? What was it then?

People got bored? lol I played in C2/C3, I never got bored, I PvP'ed with unsubbed chars against subbed chars, and everyone was in B and C grade, fighting people in A grade, later even in S grade, and when the first +25 S weapons arrived on Dragon, people fought them with B grade items. Those were the best times on Dragon, that was before Dungeon bosses started to control the economy and the balance on the server. People fought for castles cause of the status it gave, by the mere reason to be 'better' than your enemy. That was the most fun, nothing else.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: DarkVengeance on August 22, 2010, 04:03:10 PM
Quote from: Furesy on August 22, 2010, 03:36:24 PM
Really? What was it then?

People got bored? lol I played in C2/C3, I never got bored, I PvP'ed with unsubbed chars against subbed chars, and everyone was in B and C grade, fighting people in A grade, later even in S grade, and when the first +25 S weapons arrived on Dragon, people fought them with B grade items. Those were the best times on Dragon, that was before Dungeon bosses started to control the economy and the balance on the server. People fought for castles cause of the status it gave, by the mere reason to be 'better' than your enemy. That was the most fun, nothing else.

Totally agree with you ... C2/C3 were the best times, there was a constant PVP at LoA, since it was the only high exp zone ... only few ppl had A grade and that didn't bring huge unbalance. Now everything is based on DNet equip and RB crap ... there's basically no open PVP, except the ones for big raids. And those attributes are just ruining everything.
Many ppl would come back and play C2/C3 or even C4, once again ... since it was the real L2 with loads of fun ...
Everything after C4 is one big mess ...
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: WindPhoenix on August 22, 2010, 10:51:37 PM
Quote from: Furesy on August 22, 2010, 03:36:24 PM
Really? What was it then?

People got bored? lol I played in C2/C3, I never got bored, I PvP'ed with unsubbed chars against subbed chars, and everyone was in B and C grade, fighting people in A grade, later even in S grade, and when the first +25 S weapons arrived on Dragon, people fought them with B grade items. Those were the best times on Dragon, that was before Dungeon bosses started to control the economy and the balance on the server. People fought for castles cause of the status it gave, by the mere reason to be 'better' than your enemy. That was the most fun, nothing else.
the economy of Nightmare its controlled by DNET sets and Icarus items atm. The raid boss jewels are devaluated like shit. People treat AQ or Zaken like change in the supermarket when buying DNET sets. The custom items freaked up the economy, not the raid jewels.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Furesy on August 23, 2010, 12:36:09 AM
Quote from: WindPhoenix on August 22, 2010, 10:51:37 PM
the economy of Nightmare its controlled by DNET sets and Icarus items atm. The raid boss jewels are devaluated like shit. People treat AQ or Zaken like change in the supermarket when buying DNET sets. The custom items freaked up the economy, not the raid jewels.
Yea right dude, the server got already freaked long before it moved to Interlude and those DNet sets were introduced, long before that the market, and total gameplay on the servers were already freaked up.
People were whining on forums they wanted Interlude, since it would 'spice up the server, create more fun, new areas, new items, new challenges' and all that other shit, well what happened? Nothing much, server just went from bad to worse.

You talk about 'at the moment' while this server was digging its own grave long before those custom items were introduced, there was only one simple reason those were introduced in the first place. To get some extra out of the servers, as they were already going down.

I've said this for years already, and a lot of my friends can confirm that. Boss jewels are the things that destroyed the game Lineage 2 which a lot of us loved so much during C2/C3 times.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Azreil on August 23, 2010, 01:33:51 AM
whoa server merging? ummmm awesome!? im coming back woooo!
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Azreil on August 23, 2010, 01:35:19 AM
PS its good to be home
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: WindPhoenix on August 23, 2010, 04:42:30 PM
Quote from: Furesy on August 23, 2010, 12:36:09 AM
Yea right dude, the server got already freaked long before it moved to Interlude and those DNet sets were introduced, long before that the market, and total gameplay on the servers were already freaked up.
People were whining on forums they wanted Interlude, since it would 'spice up the server, create more fun, new areas, new items, new challenges' and all that other shit, well what happened? Nothing much, server just went from bad to worse.

You talk about 'at the moment' while this server was digging its own grave long before those custom items were introduced, there was only one simple reason those were introduced in the first place. To get some extra out of the servers, as they were already going down.

I've said this for years already, and a lot of my friends can confirm that. Boss jewels are the things that destroyed the game Lineage 2 which a lot of us loved so much during C2/C3 times.
to be honest, i never gave it so much thought. Maybe it was dying before i noticed it.
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Furesy on August 24, 2010, 01:07:29 PM
Quote from: Azreil on August 23, 2010, 01:33:51 AM
whoa server merging? ummmm awesome!? im coming back woooo!
If you're going to resurrect CielNoir from the dust, I might consider coming back and kicking your ass alongside the siege lines!

Quote from: WindPhoenix on August 23, 2010, 04:42:30 PM
to be honest, i never gave it so much thought. Maybe it was dying before i noticed it.
^^

PS: Lame ass censorship on forums, turns f*cked to 'freaked' lol
Title: Re: Servers merge ?
Post by: Azreil on August 24, 2010, 02:44:17 PM
Quote from: Furesy on August 24, 2010, 01:07:29 PM
If you're going to resurrect CielNoir from the dust, I might consider coming back and kicking your ass alongside the siege lines!
^^

PS: Lame ass censorship on forums, turns f*cked to 'freaked' lol


oh its on furry!