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Title: UPDATES
Post by: CrashOverAll on September 02, 2010, 08:40:30 AM
What happened with the updates .... we all need to start making new chars. Orc got nerfed to the max. Bison totem doesn't work on blunt as it used to ... it gives 100 crit rate. How are orcs supposed to fight RB now and farm in HB? Bison works on fist so what we should do ... go ++++ on dyna fist to fight a RB?
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Diver on September 02, 2010, 08:52:54 AM
Quote from: CrashOverAll on September 02, 2010, 08:40:30 AM
What happened with the updates .... we all need to start making new chars. Orc got nerfed to the max. Bison totem doesn't work on blunt as it used to ... it gives 100 crit rate. How are orcs supposed to fight RB now and farm in HB? Bison works on fist so what we should do ... go ++++ on dyna fist to fight a RB?
Get party of real ppl not bot and you will see how. It's MMO....

PS. buff bar is short again.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: CrashOverAll on September 02, 2010, 09:06:15 AM
Even with party of real ppl.... how much V rage we need to do a RB? 3-4? ... it was the crit rate that helped...
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Diver on September 02, 2010, 09:10:11 AM
You need tank, bishop, and nukers...
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: lol on September 02, 2010, 09:48:24 AM
Well, few days ago some guy was  talking how looks new chronicle of lineage (cant remember witch one it was), the point is he was paying on another server with stuckable sub system, like here, and there is something like here now, very huge obstructions just for disable people for farming (higher time reuse for skills, bizon like 5 min or sth etc)?! WTF

You are just again make rbs for big clans/allies where is like 20+ ppl online, but now we are not even able to farm on regular mobs on hb??

How do you think new players can get equal to those who are already in strong clans. For them ic set+6, tt set+6 and as+7 means sothing - you simply cant get to this clan :X, but this is another story...

So its gets us here, on server left only old farmers, people who started to earn coins, and people able to make hero, not many... Now after 'great' updates its goes higher? I don't think so...

IMO tyrant/destro become another useless char, and now what delete it? I've just made skills enchanted :P
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Furesy on September 02, 2010, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: lol on September 02, 2010, 09:48:24 AM
Well, few days ago some guy was  talking how looks new chronicle of lineage (cant remember witch one it was), the point is he was paying on another server with stuckable sub system, like here, and there is something like here now, very huge obstructions just for disable people for farming (higher time reuse for skills, bizon like 5 min or sth etc)?! WTF

You are just again make rbs for big clans/allies where is like 20+ ppl online, but now we are not even able to farm on regular mobs on hb??

How do you think new players can get equal to those who are already in strong clans. For them ic set+6, tt set+6 and as+7 means sothing - you simply cant get to this clan :X, but this is another story...

So its gets us here, on server left only old farmers, people who started to earn coins, and people able to make hero, not many... Now after 'great' updates its goes higher? I don't think so...

IMO tyrant/destro become another useless char, and now what delete it? I've just made skills enchanted :P
If you want to farm solo go play Pacman or something, the concept of Lineage 2 remains a team-play based game, whether it is retail or highly modded private server.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: lol on September 02, 2010, 11:35:17 AM
Quote from: Furesy on September 02, 2010, 11:04:56 AM
If you want to farm solo go play Pacman or something, the concept of Lineage 2 remains a team-play based game, whether it is retail or highly modded private server.

Lets say somehow someone get lost and accidentally get to dragon-network, what would he do to join or fight with old clans/players? Donate for 2k euros? xD Tyrant/destro was the best way to earn adena without very good stuff, dont you think?:)

Whatever even without bizon, its takes a lil longer, but rb's are still ownable.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Furesy on September 02, 2010, 11:52:05 AM
Quote from: lol on September 02, 2010, 11:35:17 AM
Lets say somehow someone get lost and accidentally get to dragon-network, what would he do to join or fight with old clans/players? Donate for 2k euros? xD Tyrant/destro was the best way to earn adena without very good stuff, dont you think?:)

Whatever even without bizon, its takes a lil longer, but rb's are still ownable.
Like there are any new players, any sane L2 player would never start here anyway lol
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on September 02, 2010, 11:55:30 AM
Okey this isnt official yet thats why i am writing it here:

Look we were doing update till late last night and well drake have very serious personal issue today which he CANT delay! (thats why we didnt up things we wanted, flame blame swear w/e it wont change anything ) so we agreed to up servers with 1st level of uptdates better then keeping them 1 more (2) days down. I will write down some things that i know they are changed :

- As you all know we got new server few months ago Valkyria, well in order to bring to all servers updates we had to merge the code so we can apply all the updates for other servers too and still keep their things what they have, so this was a big task and this is fully done, we have basis now where we can update others (THIS IS WHAT HAS TO BE DONE)

- Dwarfed mutants/xmen look or however you called it is (should be) FINALLY fixed and disabled because they were screwing the database  badly, and well its said long ago they will be fixed, but okey now its done

- Orcs are not anymore Raidboos hunters ONLY , if you want to do a riad make a decent party (OF REAL PLAYERS) and kill it, you know everything about it what we changed, just read up.

- A lot skills got fixed and we made them to work as they should (will get a list later and post it)

- Daggers Dynasty and Icarus got (SA) critical damage , FIXED.

- Now we have implemented 2 new raids and 1 new TvT auto event , but because of drakes issue we didint up the client side for all players, basically i have it only atm. But tonight ill finish with drake those tests (i hope all will be allright with both drake and tests) and then we will up this thing too.

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About things that are coming are quite nice too, will happen also during the Sept.: We found more then 15 new areas/dungeons (i showed to my GM staff , is REALLY NICE) that will be unlocked 1 by 1 with new content inside (you will like it), more then 9 new radis that will be implemented (idea is each week 1 raid but we will see yet), those new raids wont be as the one u expected you will need more then zerg to kill it and yes this raids will include Beleth and rest of the bosses too, there is a lot more to tell in folowing updates, but lets us 1st finish things mentioned above and fortfll our promises.

Now you can continue to flame/blame and ofc have a 0 understanding for what i said and things will be as usual here.

Die

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P.S. For my community only: You got 2 new gm-s , you got 1 gm who is everyday in game helping you assisting you and reporting me things to be fixed, you got Events agenda and event calendar planned for each day , we are back working doing updates and so on, ....
So its time to show a bit respect for us too maybe?? What did u expect over the night a bugland gracia crap final 9.9xxxx or what? Jesus people when you will start valueing and respecting your own network where do you play and then maybe the new people will start respecting us too....
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Piccy on September 02, 2010, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: Furesy on September 02, 2010, 11:52:05 AM
Like there are any new players, any sane L2 player  would never start here anyway lol

????
senseless words togheter :D
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Piccy on September 02, 2010, 11:58:23 AM
track in infy there is also npc for dnet-retail

u don0t get it? :D
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: alinutza on September 02, 2010, 12:12:16 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on September 02, 2010, 11:55:30 AM
)

- Dwarfed mutants/xmen look or however you called it is (should be) FINALLY fixed and disabled because they were screwing the database  badly, and well its said long ago they will be fixed, but okey now its done

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Can u define plix  FIXED and disabled...aka they will be erased, theyll be as regular mutants, they ll keep skills (FS) they ll die ....or w/e
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Teh noob on September 02, 2010, 12:18:14 PM
is it after this update , or tanks miss "skill mastery" passive from 3rd class (sorry for the dumb question)
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: lol on September 02, 2010, 12:35:13 PM
In my opinion its better to spend some more time making work all things and fix bugs then nerf hundred times char to finally become a crap  :)

With all respect for team, there are more and less important things to do, why dont you start from more important?: P
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on September 02, 2010, 12:37:56 PM
Quote from: lol on September 02, 2010, 12:35:13 PM
In my opinion its better to spend some more time making work all things and fix bugs then nerf hundred times char to finally become a crap  :)

With all respect for team, there are more and less important things to do, why dont you start from more important?: P
Soloing raidboss was for me most annoying thing that ever happened, im more then happy to see this things solved, and stop telling me nonsense about only big ally/clans can kill it, 90% of raid bosses you can kill with a 1 - 2 partys.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Furesy on September 02, 2010, 12:39:06 PM
Quote from: Piccy on September 02, 2010, 11:55:53 AM
????
senseless words togheter :D
xD
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Teh noob on September 02, 2010, 12:48:21 PM
Quote from: lol on September 02, 2010, 12:35:13 PM
In my opinion its better to spend some more time making work all things and fix bugs then nerf hundred times char to finally become a crap  :)

With all respect for team, there are more and less important things to do, why dont you start from more important?: P

if 3 archers and 2 daggers can kill random highlevel boss under 10 min i dont see smth wrong with making pure farmers like ty/de less capable . how "less" it is its doubtfull cus i allready checked my and i dont see big difference. its about teh loot, right?

p.s. i would like to know about this passive skill i wrote b4.ty
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: jygh on September 02, 2010, 12:52:25 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on September 02, 2010, 12:37:56 PM
Soloing raidboss was for me most annoying thing that ever happened, im more then happy to see this things solved, and stop telling me nonsense about only big ally/clans can kill it, 90% of raid bosses you can kill with a 1 - 2 partys.
all ok but could u fix m def of rb?::P cause i hit some rb for 150 with 7k m .atk xD
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: IvolveR on September 02, 2010, 12:53:57 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on September 02, 2010, 12:37:56 PM
Soloing raidboss was for me most annoying thing that ever happened, im more then happy to see this things solved, and stop telling me nonsense about only big ally/clans can kill it, 90% of raid bosses you can kill with a 1 - 2 partys.
No its not solved,just takes 1/3 more time to solo a rb.Nerf the crit rate of blunts or the bonus u get from crit rate buffs
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Teh noob on September 02, 2010, 01:01:01 PM
Quote from: IvolveR on September 02, 2010, 12:53:57 PM
No its not solved,just takes 1/3 more time to solo a rb.Nerf the crit rate of blunts or the bonus u get from crit rate buffs

blunts have 40 crit rate, lowest level of all weapons. critical damage is the best -that needs " a touch" . thats why  ppl cry atm no blunts= less crit power.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Wizjoner on September 02, 2010, 01:10:55 PM
Quote from: lol on September 02, 2010, 11:35:17 AM
Lets say somehow someone get lost and accidentally get to dragon-network, what would he do to join or fight with old clans/players? Donate for 2k euros? xD Tyrant/destro was the best way to earn adena without very good stuff, dont you think?:)

Whatever even without bizon, its takes a lil longer, but rb's are still ownable.

make des/wl + hd with focus and problem solved

in pvp dmg from good des/tyr was OP from blunt (5-10k dmg) with max crit rate (but its not big problem to have 94% ref dmg, 99% with NM hv)

btw : subclass for Kamael will be possible to make? Thx
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: darkdevilct on September 02, 2010, 01:16:36 PM
fix the buff bars!!!!!!!! is again freaked up..
and still some skill like deflect arrow+endurance dont work (it must add pattak)
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: rapinski on September 02, 2010, 01:19:23 PM
yes please put again  the buff bars like before ........
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: thehunted on September 02, 2010, 01:29:45 PM
Kamaels fixed and sub-able?
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: thehunted on September 02, 2010, 01:34:42 PM
Quote from: Wizjoner on September 02, 2010, 01:10:55 PM
make des/wl + hd with focus and problem solved

in pvp dmg from good des/tyr was OP from blunt (5-10k dmg) with max crit rate (but its not big problem to have 94% ref dmg, 99% with NM hv)

btw : subclass for Kamael will be possible to make? Thx

DES/WL is useless for real:

- Zealot doesn't stack with Thrill Fight anymore.
- War Cry doesn't stack with Rage.
- Swords crit damage is a joke.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Wizjoner on September 02, 2010, 01:59:26 PM
Quote from: thehunted on September 02, 2010, 01:34:42 PM
DES/WL is useless for real:

- Zealot doesn't stack with Thrill Fight anymore.
- War Cry doesn't stack with Rage.
- Swords crit damage is a joke.

u forgot eye of hunter & slayer (heh but what noob player use it?)

I easy farm on hb my glad/pal with sword and dmg is good

in pvp players with 2k p def got 200 normal dmg and 1k crits dmg (w/o baium and cat), yeah but its easy to win with 10k dmg

btw : from where u know - rage and war cry doesnt stack? war cry increase p attack 20% (lvl 1), rage more than 50% and decrease p def.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Piccy on September 02, 2010, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: jaroPC_x15 on September 02, 2010, 02:04:44 PM
on valkyria bd/se, ty/de, sws and wc and rbs die :P
and it is only  a  bit nerfed than at dragon/nm/infinity

dont cry nubas ;d

for what wc? isn't pp better?
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: seboulba on September 02, 2010, 02:18:27 PM
Quote from: CrashOverAll on September 02, 2010, 08:40:30 AM
What happened with the updates .... we all need to start making new chars. Orc got nerfed to the max. Bison totem doesn't work on blunt as it used to ... it gives 100 crit rate. How are orcs supposed to fight RB now and farm in HB? Bison works on fist so what we should do ... go ++++ on dyna fist to fight a RB?

and what about POLE ???? cuz tbh without bison training in HB will be ..............................
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: OwnerPL on September 02, 2010, 02:25:01 PM
Quote from: darkdevilct on September 02, 2010, 01:16:36 PM
fix the buff bars!!!!!!!! is again freaked up..
and still some skill like deflect arrow+endurance dont work (it must add pattak)
ye +4 fs scroll +other few skills like TOL UD AI
and we lost 80% bufs
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: CrashOverAll on September 02, 2010, 02:39:06 PM
OK orc got nerfed! Mages can't farm HB ... now all ppl need to make other chars to farm there. Think about the fact that a lot of ppl left the server and there are lvl 8 clans with 3-4 players online...... It's the same story as SPS when the HB update was made. It got nerfed so bad that in pvp a solo NE would kill it in 5-6 sec.

Maybe 2nd and 3rd updates will fix some pb with orcs.... but still ... no we need to rethink all the skill enchants.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Furesy on September 02, 2010, 02:42:05 PM
Quote from: CrashOverAll on September 02, 2010, 02:39:06 PM
OK orc got nerfed! Mages can't farm HB ... now all ppl need to make other chars to farm there. Think about the fact that a lot of ppl left the server and there are lvl 8 clans with 3-4 players online...... It's the same story as SPS when the HB update was made. It got nerfed so bad that in pvp a solo NE would kill it in 5-6 sec.

Maybe 2nd and 3rd updates will fix some pb with orcs.... but still ... no we need to rethink all the skill enchants.
SpS is supposed to be the most inferior class when it comes to the nuker class, so doesn't rly matter there.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: luckyluke13 on September 02, 2010, 02:52:59 PM
Quote from: rapinski on September 02, 2010, 01:19:23 PM
yes please put again  the buff bars like before ........

+1
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Gonzal on September 02, 2010, 02:55:42 PM
Quote from: luckyluke13 on September 02, 2010, 02:52:59 PM
+1

we got -3 buff slots now... where i put my resists buffs now?
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Kain on September 02, 2010, 03:01:05 PM
Quote from: alinutza on September 02, 2010, 12:12:16 PM
Can u define plix  FIXED and disabled...aka they will be erased, theyll be as regular mutants, they ll keep skills (FS) they ll die ....or w/e

Well  the last time i spoke with Drake about this subject he told me the following .

A owner of a 85/85 mutant dwarf skin will get the following :

Quest horn in quest items invetory
Back to 85 lvl main class
retail quest done or if you have noobless done too
Forgotten scrools you used in invetory too
Enough amount of SP/EXP to get subbed again .

So all you have to do for example if you was bp/wc 85 lvl  and bp on main class ,you have to sub again into a human race OR you can sub again to bp/wc but this time you will be limited to 80 .
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Furesy on September 02, 2010, 03:08:52 PM
Quote from: Kain on September 02, 2010, 03:01:05 PM
Well  the last time i spoke with Drake about this subject he told me the following .

A owner of a 85/85 mutant dwarf skin will get the following :

Quest horn in quest items invetory
Back to 85 lvl main class
retail quest done or if you have noobless done too
Forgotten scrools you used in invetory too
Enough amount of SP/EXP to get subbed again .

So all you have to do for example if you was bp/wc 85 lvl  and bp on main class ,you have to sub again into a human race OR you can sub again to bp/wc but this time you will be limited to 80 .
Now that's a good fix =]
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Piccy on September 02, 2010, 03:13:34 PM
mh.... on infy w4lker subbed (he/sws or smething like that) in dwarf skin...... logged this morning and np....
just on nm so ?
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Gonzal on September 02, 2010, 03:14:05 PM
Quote from: Kain on September 02, 2010, 03:01:05 PM
Well  the last time i spoke with Drake about this subject he told me the following .

A owner of a 85/85 mutant dwarf skin will get the following :

Quest horn in quest items invetory
Back to 85 lvl main class
retail quest done or if you have noobless done too
Forgotten scrools you used in invetory too
Enough amount of SP/EXP to get subbed again .

So all you have to do for example if you was bp/wc 85 lvl  and bp on main class ,you have to sub again into a human race OR you can sub again to bp/wc but this time you will be limited to 80 .
the ERA of the pr/glad have finally ended... maybe?
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Kain on September 02, 2010, 03:21:17 PM
Quote from: Piccy on September 02, 2010, 03:13:34 PM
mh.... on infy w4lker subbed (he/sws or smething like that) in dwarf skin...... logged this morning and np....
just on nm so ?

Thats the way he ll do it ,i dont think he is implented it yet .
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Piccy on September 02, 2010, 03:21:30 PM
u can still make mutant (so pr/glad), just "fixed" the bug that takes them to lvl 85 in dwarf body


tnx kain 4 answer
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Gonzal on September 02, 2010, 03:32:02 PM
Quote from: Kain on September 02, 2010, 03:21:17 PM
Thats the way he ll do it ,i dont think he is implented it yet .

This will become a cry me a river post and more will come QQing about this sh1t...
Prepare your umbrella is about to start raining tears  :o :o
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Teh noob on September 02, 2010, 03:36:35 PM
more like a hovercraft needed, cus its going to be a QQ flood these days.

imo there re no weak chars, just players with not enough skills. stacksub makes every char possible better than clean one . so ...QQ
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: jygh on September 02, 2010, 04:02:32 PM
Quote from: Kain on September 02, 2010, 03:21:17 PM
Thats the way he ll do it ,i dont think he is implented it yet .
iff i ve 85/85 dwarf muttant with skils +14/16 will i loose those skills ??? or enchant will stay ???
answer me cause i dunno iff i should flame gm's yet or not
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: VampyRUL on September 02, 2010, 04:04:44 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on September 02, 2010, 12:37:56 PM
Soloing raidboss was for me most annoying thing that ever happened, im more then happy to see this things solved, and stop telling me nonsense about only big ally/clans can kill it, 90% of raid bosses you can kill with a 1 - 2 partys.
No more ty/de on RB, so 2 S grade partys will take some time to kill a RB, that gives 1 TEMP party time to come PK all kill the RB get drops and soe, ty Track, TEMP will once again rulle this server.
-That is not the problem, real question now, since ty/de can no more farm HB fast or at all, it takes over 9k of hsp to craft 1 dyna set"no failed " so will it be possible to implement dyna parts "Light/Heavy/Robe"at spoil/RB drop?
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: FANTA on September 02, 2010, 04:06:48 PM
What about situation when I like to have same DN sub like retail to make mutant and retail have 3rd transfer?
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on September 02, 2010, 04:07:07 PM
Quote from: jygh on September 02, 2010, 04:02:32 PM
iff i ve 85/85 dwarf muttant with skils +14/16 will i loose those skills ??? or enchant will stay ???
answer me cause i dunno iff i should flame gm's yet or not
Flame or not, read loader update news hystory better, it was announced WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY long ago that he will do it.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: jygh on September 02, 2010, 04:09:19 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on September 02, 2010, 04:07:07 PM
Flame or not, read loader update news hystory better, it was announced WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY long ago that he will do it.
oky oky Boss but will i loose enchanted skills or nop ???
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Piccy on September 02, 2010, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on September 02, 2010, 04:07:07 PM
Flame or not, read loader update news hystory better, it was announced WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY long ago that he will do it.

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mFI9y_7sBZ0/0.jpg)

so long?
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: jygh on September 02, 2010, 04:15:02 PM
Quote from: Piccy on September 02, 2010, 04:10:08 PM
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mFI9y_7sBZ0/0.jpg)

so long?
piccy maybe leave infinity and be another gm on Nm ?:P
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Piccy on September 02, 2010, 04:17:19 PM
:) u have enough good guys here.

and i cannot leave that emocryers pit :D
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: jygh on September 02, 2010, 04:24:07 PM
Quote from: Piccy on September 02, 2010, 04:17:19 PM
:) u have enough good guys here.

and i cannot leave that emocryers pit :D
urs loose :P anyway iff u could,  make marriage quest working too xD it was funny in c3 and since u made many skills not able to be use in some places u could make same with this .gotolove stufff
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Tabbox on September 02, 2010, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: MrLethal on September 02, 2010, 04:26:28 PM
Give back buff slot plox
+1
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Isokratia on September 02, 2010, 05:04:06 PM
I really thing it's great that finally Track is trying to update the server. Even if it's looking like final countdown before crash :D

All you idiots have some respect if you are better fix everything by yourself for 1 night.

Yes sure that this one with the Bison is too stupid(a really have no words to describe) cause now only the biggest clan --> Temp will be able to kill even more RB. But it's it's MMO and it's not normal XLIEF to farm by himself Zaken for years.

This is SUB/STUCK server full balance is impossible!!! Especially if there is update, so leave those people to fix at least the main staff.

About BD/SE - ok char is ready, have quest but not subbed and no retail :( so? After 2 weeks someone will say why it was easyer before. Ye on C4 was different for sure :D

Stop complaining and help. When the main bugs are fixed I'm sure that if we are united Track will make more changes, he is not making this update for him. I can say it from my experience Stepcontrol is in the Harbor and is trying to help.

And really this with Tyr/Destro is very bad at least make SA on Crusher to work :(
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: CrashOverAll on September 02, 2010, 05:23:45 PM
Make this clear so everybody should know......

Will we be able to make mutants lvl 80? Or only 85 mutants will be changed as ,kain said, with horn + FS in inventory?
A lot of ppl are making mutants now and are not sure if they can do it anymore or not.



Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: alinutza on September 02, 2010, 05:38:28 PM
How is subclass system atm, cause i have a dwarf without third with quest item horn and atm ofc  i cant take sub as spoiler. Is same system as in valkiria, aka u cant sub main but only retails?..cause if its like this truly sux.
And if it is like on valkirya, u can take subs for every retail?
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: lytors on September 02, 2010, 05:38:51 PM
Hi ppl of nightmare, i have an orc (des/tyr) and as many of you know, it used to hit hard. Now my orc looks like a dwarf (lot of HP but nothing p atack/atck speed/crit rate). The reason i heard? "Killing raid bosses should be in party fun". Pepole, let me tell you that you can have a "party fun" when you go rb, you only have to kill the ORC. But as all of you are scared to get pk, takes the easy way: complain about the orc and so that the gm modifies that race, like it's beeing done since long years. Why dont you better eliminate that race ah? And what happens with the archers that kill you with 1 hit? nobody says nothing about that. This server is for donators so here's another idea: close the server and make a private one. Only for donators, because why you players play on a free server and then pay for play? This is stupid.   Good Bye DragonNet-¿Work?.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: legendaryvicious on September 02, 2010, 05:47:18 PM
Quote from: Isokratia on September 02, 2010, 05:04:06 PMBut it's it's MMO and it's not normal XLIEF to farm by himself Zaken for years.

LOOOL better don't talk about things you know shit about, at least have the decency of asking around before posting things that'll make you look like a complete moron lmao.

P.S: Stop freaking around with the buff bars would you track? :)
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Wizjoner on September 02, 2010, 06:05:53 PM
and what about attribute system?

max atr value in weapon will be fixed?
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: QuadCore on September 02, 2010, 06:14:02 PM
Quote from: thehunted on September 02, 2010, 01:29:45 PM
Kamaels fixed and sub-able?
fixed=no sub=yes today i made ;p
u have to be 78 lvl 3rd class
edit
i wish i could make trickster/inspector
but there was only doombringer, soul hound and trickster to choose
when you already got subbed horn disappear  and then u can get sub class quest again
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Spelso666 on September 02, 2010, 06:16:04 PM
TRACK U CAN CLOSE SERVER JUST NOW!
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Evolution on September 02, 2010, 06:58:50 PM
FIX High-Grade Life Stone: level 80 ::) can't put them on weapon...
FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiXFiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiXFiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: darkdevilct on September 02, 2010, 07:05:40 PM
FIX THE BUFF BARS
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: jygh on September 02, 2010, 07:07:28 PM
since all QQ its best to change back and just put auto event pvp and make more events and thats totally fine for everyone on nm  :P
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: PartyTimE on September 02, 2010, 09:00:28 PM
U call these update?
Oficeal server :---------Bison Spirit Totem ; The spirit of the bison possesses you, temporarily increasing Accuracy when using hand-to-hand combat weapons. When HP is low, P. Atk. and critical attack rate are also increased. Requires a hand-to-hand combat weapon.

What are u planing to do when u nerf orcs? let big clans farm everything on server no chance for others LAME really nohing to say..

lvl 85 mutants....

is that our faulth that u let every1 to make them for long time and u  fuk them up totaly after 1 year ????????
what a lame shiit that  u say all FS and Quest HOrn will be back to their inventory..
.PUT that quest horn to your ASS will be more usefull for u ...
HOW DO U THINK U CAN PAY OUR TIME BACK? WHEN WE SPENT FUKING TOO MUCH TIME TO  MAKE THEM ........

AND u always asking for respect from PPL  and  u never respect THEM.... where were u hiding for long time when PPL need some help.....u just come back to server when u get out of money and try make PPL REROL TO NEW CHARs= NEW DONATES.......U call all these shiit UPDATE LAME shiit u took from other server..... Server was kinda better and more fun before u come and fuk it up....

FOR IdıotS WHO TRY TO MAKE SERVER UP ON BY VOTING ......I  WONDER FOR WHAT U TRY THIS SHIIT? FOR LAGS+ERRORS+BUGS?  How u can think that making PPL come here can be that easy? PPL are not idiots they can easy understand in 1 week easy , there İS NO CHANCE FOR THEM play here and no sense of spending TIME AND MONEY here....

FALMES / BLAMES / DELETES THE POsts ..........

P.S  Soon u will understand that u need normal PPL to play here to make the rich ones donate for u but IT will be LATE
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: CrashOverAll on September 02, 2010, 09:18:48 PM
Dude you are just acting silly..... Track is trying to get some changes done.... we respect that cuse for a lot of players game got boring. After u get DNET crafte 6 phanty/day and go +++ it's getting boring .... now ... it just got a little more interesting. I tested orc ... it is preatty ok but frenzy sucks big time .... anyway ... the party funn won't be. U just delayed orcs from killing RB with WC/SWS and BD/PP and i'm sure of that.

The thing is with the subclass system now ... for mutants do we still need retail done or we can pick whatever subb we like? Will the lvl 80 mutants suffer any change? What's new in this part?

Track srry for being so negative about the update.... i brought some funn in the game for a while.... but we still need an active GM for events cause the last ones i remember were: RB spawn in Antharas Lair, Golky funn in Giran Harbour and srv VS TEMPS.

And we are still waiting for the spoil or not dyna set parts...

Keep us up to date with this changes cuse players want to know what to do with the chars/sets they are working on.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: seboulba on September 02, 2010, 09:19:37 PM
Quote from: PartyTimE on September 02, 2010, 09:00:28 PM
U call these update?
Oficeal server :---------Bison Spirit Totem ; The spirit of the bison possesses you, temporarily increasing Accuracy when using hand-to-hand combat weapons. When HP is low, P. Atk. and critical attack rate are also increased. Requires a hand-to-hand combat weapon.

What are u planing to do when u nerf orcs? let big clans farm everything on server no chance for others LAME really nohing to say..

lvl 85 mutants....

is that our faulth that u let every1 to make them for long time and u  fuk them up totaly after 1 year ????????
what a lame shiit that  u say all FS and Quest HOrn will be back to their inventory..
.PUT that quest horn to your ASS will be more usefull for u ...
HOW DO U THINK U CAN PAY OUR TIME BACK? WHEN WE SPENT FUKING TOO MUCH TIME TO  MAKE THEM ........

AND u always asking for respect from PPL  and  u never respect THEM.... where were u hiding for long time when PPL need some help.....u just come back to server when u get out of money and try make PPL REROL TO NEW CHARs= NEW DONATES.......U call all these shiit UPDATE LAME shiit u took from other server..... Server was kinda better and more fun before u come and fuk it up....

FOR IdıotS WHO TRY TO MAKE SERVER UP ON BY VOTING ......I  WONDER FOR WHAT U TRY THIS SHIIT? FOR LAGS+ERRORS+BUGS?  How u can think that making PPL come here can be that easy? PPL are not idiots they can easy understand in 1 week easy , there İS NO CHANCE FOR THEM play here and no sense of spending TIME AND MONEY here....

FALMES / BLAMES / DELETES THE POsts ..........

P.S  Soon u will understand that u need normal PPL to play here to make the rich ones donate for u but IT will be LATE

+1 XD

i gave my stuff to a friend and started from 0 :) it's almost impossible 1 coins 2kkk kidding me ? XD how do u want that our news ppl'smake they stuff if they can afford 1 coin ? they can easly make 1-2-3-4-5 set A then what about the S grade ? 4~6 coins for a normal weapon.  
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: violetpl on September 02, 2010, 09:20:47 PM
Quote from: darkdevilct on September 02, 2010, 07:05:40 PM
FIX THE BUFF BARS

+1000000000000000000000000000
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: surecom on September 02, 2010, 09:30:08 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on September 02, 2010, 04:07:07 PM
Flame or not, read loader update news hystory better, it was announced WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY long ago that he will do it.

So i read :D. I even used "find" with words like " dwarf, skin, mutant, disabled" and NO SINGLE WORD about this. So at least before you told that this is announced first you check loader history.
Sry that i will post long history of loader here but to be clear point me where exactly is writen ( btw im for disabled mutant too)

The message exceeds the maximum allowed length (10000 characters).

Sry that i cant post history from loader ( history is too long)  , but if you Track want to check too just copy/paste in notepad and use "find"
This iis absolutly not flame to you. Just when you post smth be sure that this is true.

Good job with new updates btw - i rly sry that i cant test this cuz i stoped to play from 2 weeks.  May be some day i will try them.
Keep good work.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: darkdevilct on September 02, 2010, 09:32:34 PM
Quote from: violetpl on September 02, 2010, 09:20:47 PM
+1000000000000000000000000000
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: darkdevilct on September 02, 2010, 10:10:05 PM
Quote from: darkdevilct on September 02, 2010, 07:05:40 PM
FIX THE BUFF BARS
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: PartyTimE on September 02, 2010, 10:31:15 PM
Quote from: MrLethal on September 02, 2010, 10:20:08 PM
NM IS NOT OFICIAL SERVER

Read my post fist then write your reason why i am wrong or why i shouldnt say somehing....

Stop making non sense comants..........
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: moonbreaker on September 02, 2010, 11:04:33 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on September 02, 2010, 12:37:56 PM
Soloing raidboss was for me most annoying thing that ever happened, im more then happy to see this things solved, and stop telling me nonsense about only big ally/clans can kill it, 90% of raid bosses you can kill with a 1 - 2 partys.

well u make destro/tyr weaker so...
to kill rb tyrant destro must use at least 1 buff vampire and thats all (before update anthy+zaken and no need to use vampire) Rb still can be killed by tyrant/destro. Just now this tyrant/destro must have better equipment and 1 or 2 vampire buffs, so this greater farmers just lough. Rb will always be killed by tyrant destro unless u : delete all tyrant destro, make this char totally useless.

This is just bad side of stucking subclass system. tyrant destro killing rb, and total oly farmers.

If u want a team game, join server without stacking subclass or do not allow people to start "dualbox"

Peace.

Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Deavon on September 02, 2010, 11:10:24 PM
Quote from: Ungolianth on September 02, 2010, 05:33:41 PM
poor fat thanos :DDD

Banned people should nt talk ,pay ur dept first to the community and then you can start talk gipsy-scammer .

p.s: Like it will be hard for me to roll you on he/wk as in the past or any other archer lol :D

p.s2: I dont allow you to call me Thanos since only friends of me calling me like that ,plus that you GIANT JAWS wont allow you to spell it correct .
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: WindPhoenix on September 03, 2010, 12:08:01 AM
Ok, let me get this straight:

I will be able to DNET subclass my retails, like i always dreamt of ever since Drake spoke about it?

I am ES/SPS with Cardinal, Phoenix Knight and Maestro retails. Will i be able to make Cardinal/Necromancer on my retail for example? :o

That would be the most awesome thing that happen in DNET in the last 3 years or so.


PS: Make buff bars shorter

yeah, i mean it, less buffs = more brains needed to buff properly and usually less damage, so longer pvp.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Piccy on September 03, 2010, 12:14:43 AM
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 03, 2010, 12:08:01 AM


I am ES/SPS with Cardinal, Phoenix Knight and Maestro retails. Will i be able to make Cardinal/Necromancer on my retail for example? :o

well,  y u will have 3x dnet sub on retail from the race u choose (it means no mutant added to retail)
at least, that was "original" dnet sub idea
and i doubt they changed it
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: WindPhoenix on September 03, 2010, 12:34:09 AM
Quote from: Piccy on September 03, 2010, 12:14:43 AM
well,  y u will have 3x dnet sub on retail from the race u choose (it means no mutant added to retail)
at least, that was "original" dnet sub idea
and i doubt they changed it

w00T! freaking great news mate! I hope Track can confirm that.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Deavon on September 03, 2010, 05:36:32 AM
Quote from: Ungolianth on September 03, 2010, 03:53:49 AM
well actualy when ur so big friednd with track u should be better informed fatso since he gave me those items from own will and we had also option that he will take items or 100 coins from me to eliminate dept but now he actualy forget about it...also calling some1 gipsy since all greeks looks like that its also funny...anyway actualy was only joke to make u sing so dont take it serious fatso...and about ut allow or not allow call u thoanoass or no it ur name so ppl call u like that (me personaly prefare fatso but i know how it piss u off when i call u Thanis :d) ...cheers :*

You keep being such a big lier and  you dont have shame at all .
I wont even comment that comment about greeks and bla bla cause i ll get down to your poor level by comparing coutries and people.
The funny part is that i understood you have big obsession with me and you getting feed by the attention i m giving you,hopefully without attentiom from now on you ll die  in  peace .

Cheers Jaws .
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Cenarius on September 03, 2010, 06:15:45 AM
Quote from: darkdevilct on September 02, 2010, 07:05:40 PM
FIX THE BUFF BARS
SPAMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Spelso666 on September 03, 2010, 06:42:50 AM
Quote from: Kain on September 02, 2010, 03:01:05 PM
Well  the last time i spoke with Drake about this subject he told me the following .

A owner of a 85/85 mutant dwarf skin will get the following :

Quest horn in quest items invetory
Back to 85 lvl main class
retail quest done or if you have noobless done too
Forgotten scrools you used in invetory too
Enough amount of SP/EXP to get subbed again .

So all you have to do for example if you was bp/wc 85 lvl  and bp on main class ,you have to sub again into a human race OR you can sub again to bp/wc but this time you will be limited to 80 .

and what about bogs? ppl lost many bogs with enchating skills?who will back bogs  them ? answer kain
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: moonbreaker on September 03, 2010, 06:43:30 AM
Quote from: Cenarius on September 03, 2010, 06:15:45 AM
SPAMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

play more on server not on forum, yesterday someone inform ^stepcontrol^ about buff bars
he said it will be fixed within 48 h.  
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: TomekAlmighty on September 03, 2010, 07:57:43 AM
Quote from: Deavon on September 02, 2010, 11:10:24 PM


gay Thanos!
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: xLynax on September 03, 2010, 09:15:34 AM
Hi  ;):

Anyone tryed to make a "buy store" offline?

Dont work for me, and yes i had the 48hrs scrolls and use it once with a "sell store" and everytime i log still have time left to use the offline command.

Cya.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: darkdevilct on September 03, 2010, 10:17:54 AM
FIX ELPY BAG TOO!!!!
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Sali on September 03, 2010, 10:32:14 AM
Quote from: moonbreaker on September 03, 2010, 06:43:30 AM
play more on server not on forum, yesterday someone inform ^stepcontrol^ about buff bars
he said it will be fixed within 48 h.  
forum is to talk, game is to play, where do u see problem at writing at forum? and i guess not every1 stay loged 24/7 to know every detail that happend at server. Such a info should be also posted at froum not only announced in game, dont u think so?
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: moonbreaker on September 03, 2010, 11:40:23 AM
Quote from: Sali on September 03, 2010, 10:32:14 AM
forum is to talk, game is to play, where do u see problem at writing at forum? and i guess not every1 stay loged 24/7 to know every detail that happend at server. Such a info should be also posted at froum not only announced in game, dont u think so?
+1
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Arienrod on September 03, 2010, 11:57:33 AM
buffs>stuffs, if u reduce buffs of buff bars it means stuff>buffs
fine for 10 % of players/ shitty for 90%
and i even don't speak about new players XD

seb> u come back from 0 ? wanna help ?
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: IvolveR on September 03, 2010, 12:07:19 PM
Quote from: Arienrod on September 03, 2010, 11:57:33 AM
buffs>stuffs, if u reduce buffs of buff bars it means stuff>buffs
fine for 10 % of players/ shitty for 90%
and i even don't speak about new players XD

seb> u come back from 0 ? wanna help ?
bullshit. Lesser buff slots requires higher brain functions to process what buffs u need to buff at the specific situation.
More buffs=less brain=noobs all around acting as pros. L2buff and l2p
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: xxGEBELSxx on September 03, 2010, 12:26:16 PM
Quote from: IvolveR on September 03, 2010, 12:07:19 PM
bullshit. Lesser buff slots requires higher brain functions to process what buffs u need to buff at the specific situation.
More buffs=less brain=noobs all around acting as pros. L2buff and l2p

no1 wants infite buff bar, only like it was before update.
GMs made polls about increase buffslots earlier and now they cut them without word.
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Furesy on September 03, 2010, 12:43:35 PM
Quote from: Sali on September 03, 2010, 10:32:14 AM
forum is to talk, game is to play, where do u see problem at writing at forum? and i guess not every1 stay loged 24/7 to know every detail that happend at server. Such a info should be also posted at froum not only announced in game, dont u think so?
Quote from: moonbreaker on September 03, 2010, 06:46:51 AM
i made it in one week makeing trains from 5am to 18 pm ;) on 2 chars ;)
just nothing is impossible ;)
He can!
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Arienrod on September 03, 2010, 01:08:30 PM
Quote from: IvolveR on September 03, 2010, 12:07:19 PM
bullshit. Lesser buff slots requires higher brain functions to process what buffs u need to buff at the specific situation.
More buffs=less brain=noobs all around acting as pros. L2buff and l2p

shhh :* u r loling to seem so satisfied of yourself like that  :D

if u really and seriously consider that using appropriate buffs in pvp requires "higher brain functions" while it's just common sense..; what we can say  ::)
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Deavon on September 03, 2010, 03:15:33 PM
Quote from: Ungolianth on September 03, 2010, 03:11:09 PM
and the part with atention? what kind of satisfaction can bring me a atention of fat gipsy greek faker like u? loled

Thanks for confirming me once more time :D
Damn i just fed you  attention   again ,i promise it was the last time  Jaws .
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Cenarius on September 03, 2010, 06:00:09 PM
Quote from: moonbreaker on September 03, 2010, 06:43:30 AM
play more on server not on forum, yesterday someone inform ^stepcontrol^ about buff bars
he said it will be fixed within 48 h.  
Dude that is work, real life, wife, family and personal things to do! Do u know what is this? BTW Ty for info ;D
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Sali on September 03, 2010, 06:04:38 PM
Quote from: IvolveR on September 03, 2010, 12:07:19 PM
bullshit. Lesser buff slots requires higher brain functions to process what buffs u need to buff at the specific situation.
More buffs=less brain=noobs all around acting as pros. L2buff and l2p
typical answer of as u called it wanna be "pros"
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Arienrod on September 03, 2010, 06:59:07 PM
yeah in sum he said: when naab mages in game are buffing them with acumen they do it stupidly but when i am using acumen on my mage it "requires higher brain functions to process"

bravo !  ;D
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Evolution on September 03, 2010, 11:26:40 PM
Quote from: Evolution on September 02, 2010, 06:58:50 PM
FIX High-Grade Life Stone: level 80 ::) can't put them on weapon...
FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiXFiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiXFiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX FiX
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: WindPhoenix on September 04, 2010, 04:23:15 PM
Quote from: IvolveR on September 03, 2010, 12:07:19 PM
bullshit. Lesser buff slots requires higher brain functions to process what buffs u need to buff at the specific situation.
More buffs=less brain=noobs all around acting as pros. L2buff and l2p
fully agree
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Ellyah on September 04, 2010, 09:58:10 PM
Quote from: Isokratia on September 02, 2010, 05:04:06 PM
I really thing it's great that finally Track is trying to update the server. Even if it's looking like final countdown before crash :D

All you idiots have some respect if you are better fix everything by yourself for 1 night.



This is SUB/STUCK server full balance is impossible!!! Especially if there is update, so leave those people to fix at least the main staff.


Stop complaining and help. When the main bugs are fixed I'm sure that if we are united Track will make more changes, he is not making this update for him. I can say it from my experience Stepcontrol is in the Harbor and is trying to help.

And really this with Tyr/Destro is very bad at least make SA on Crusher to work :(
+1
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: Locus on September 05, 2010, 05:36:44 PM
awesome idea with this adding subs to retail,
but i have 2 important questions,
1 what about lvl of this retailed subclases ? 80 max ?
2 if i have already subbed retail necro with 3rd, and i have bp and da as my second and third retail, can i still sub them with necro and make 3 rd prof  there ?
Title: Re: UPDATES
Post by: PartyTimE on September 18, 2010, 08:07:01 AM
Quote from: PartyTimE on September 02, 2010, 09:00:28 PM
U call these update?
Oficeal server :---------Bison Spirit Totem ; The spirit of the bison possesses you, temporarily increasing Accuracy when using hand-to-hand combat weapons. When HP is low, P. Atk. and critical attack rate are also increased. Requires a hand-to-hand combat weapon.

What are u planing to do when u nerf orcs? let big clans farm everything on server no chance for others LAME really nohing to say..

lvl 85 mutants....

is that our faulth that u let every1 to make them for long time and u  fuk them up totaly after 1 year ????????
what a lame shiit that  u say all FS and Quest HOrn will be back to their inventory..
.PUT that quest horn to your ASS will be more usefull for u ...
HOW DO U THINK U CAN PAY OUR TIME BACK? WHEN WE SPENT FUKING TOO MUCH TIME TO  MAKE THEM ........

AND u always asking for respect from PPL  and  u never respect THEM.... where were u hiding for long time when PPL need some help.....u just come back to server when u get out of money and try make PPL REROL TO NEW CHARs= NEW DONATES.......U call all these shiit UPDATE LAME shiit u took from other server..... Server was kinda better and more fun before u come and fuk it up....

FOR IdıotS WHO TRY TO MAKE SERVER UP ON BY VOTING ......I  WONDER FOR WHAT U TRY THIS SHIIT? FOR LAGS+ERRORS+BUGS?  How u can think that making PPL come here can be that easy? PPL are not idiots they can easy understand in 1 week easy , there İS NO CHANCE FOR THEM play here and no sense of spending TIME AND MONEY here....

FALMES / BLAMES / DELETES THE POsts ..........

P.S  Soon u will understand that u need normal PPL to play here to make the rich ones donate for u but IT will be LATE