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Title: Good Mage
Post by: Over_Crash on October 04, 2010, 04:05:50 PM
Hi...  need help for make nem good mage...

Sh/Ps
Sps/Ee
Nc/Wk
Ol/Ee
or any other

For PVE and PVP

mage has any better at the moment?


thx
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Gonzal on October 04, 2010, 04:49:28 PM
Quote from: Over_Crash on October 04, 2010, 04:05:50 PM
Hi...  need help for make nem good mage...

Sh/Ps
Sps/Ee
Nc/Wk
Ol/Ee
or any other

For PVE and PVP

mage has any better at the moment?


thx
nec/wk for pve :D
ol/ee buff bot and cp
sps/ee good like always
ps/sh nice m atk and hard to kill
GL choosing :P
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Weezer on October 04, 2010, 07:19:01 PM
1st of all u need to decide what kind of char u wanna play, main DD (nuker) or support char.

To decide what kind of char u gonna play u must consider some things:

- playstyle: on this u also must consider if u play alone, with friends, clan
- equips available: rly important this one cause a support char can be played with average A/S grade equips, but to play as nuker u must have good equips
- what kind of char ur clan needs: ofc if u have clan

If u decide to play as nuker u have some rly good options, i suggest SPS char and u can choose sub to EE (rly good on self buffs) or ES (better casting speed and reuse delay of skills). Another interesting option would be SH/PS u will have the better M. Attack IG and a great casting. SPS is more about magic critical rate than m. attack.

If u decide to play as support i suggest some combos with OL (CP spam for clan/ally) or BP/Tank. Another interesting option would be BD/SE, its a good class to play as support for clan (most of clans dont have people who play BD/SE as main char atm).
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: CrashOverAll on October 04, 2010, 07:33:53 PM
SPS/EE is a good class but it has been nerfed over the years. It's still good but not as it was. Cancel is a little op so for PVP u have to learn to play it well as for pve u need to make some enchants on mana cuse it runn's out quick. If u make the enchants smart u can finish mana in 40-50 min of farming non-stop. Well I support this option but combos with OL if u have an active clan it's always good for the nukers in clan. BD/SE is not really the best option cuse it's mainly support for farm .... support for farm/RB/PVP is WC/SWS too and it's more usefull because u buff all party and u reduce the reuse delay of skills + crit power and moast pp buffs.

What can i say more... GL with the choice and think well what you'll play PVP, PVE, SUPPORT ......
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: VooWong on October 04, 2010, 11:23:21 PM
Quote from: Weezer on October 04, 2010, 07:19:01 PM
- equips available: rly important this one cause a support char can be played with average A/S grade equips, but to play as nuker u must have good equips
I dare to disagree. You can but only if its a buffbot. And if youre really going to help in pvp then youre gonna need a good armor and jewels
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Weezer on October 05, 2010, 12:19:01 AM
Quote from: VooWong on October 04, 2010, 11:23:21 PM
I dare to disagree. You can but only if its a buffbot. And if youre really going to help in pvp then youre gonna need a good armor and jewels

I got ur point, but i think that a BP/Tank with DC Robe Set, Som+A and Tateo Jewels r much more usefull in a pt than a SPS/EE with same equips atm.

Ofc that if u go pvp in Varka u will have a lot of problems with those equips, but still better to play a support char than a nuker with average A/S items.
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Sali on October 05, 2010, 12:54:10 AM
Quote from: Weezer on October 05, 2010, 12:19:01 AM
I got ur point, but i think that a BP/Tank with DC Robe Set, Som+A and Tateo Jewels r much more usefull in a pt than a SPS/EE with same equips atm.

Ofc that if u go pvp in Varka u will have a lot of problems with those equips, but still better to play a support char than a nuker with average A/S items.
still mage need way less equip than warrios, so id say that any kind of mage can be good in dc+am+a
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Weezer on October 05, 2010, 02:33:03 AM
Quote from: Sali on October 05, 2010, 12:54:10 AM
still mage need way less equip than warrios, so id say that any kind of mage can be good in dc+am+a

Spending the same ammount u can make a PA/WL and will be much more usefull to a clan for PVE and PVP than ur mage on DC + AM+A.  ;)
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Evolution on October 05, 2010, 08:32:25 AM
Quote from: Gonzal on October 04, 2010, 04:49:28 PM
nec/wk for pve :D
ol/ee buff bot and cp
sps/ee good like always
ps/sh nice m atk and hard to kill
GL choosing :P

gg and this buff bot is still able to kill u  :D even if ol/ee get nerv to the bone.  ::) and y right... now i use it only for support clan. new pvp multiclass incoming!  ;D
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: seboulba on October 05, 2010, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: Weezer on October 05, 2010, 12:19:01 AM
I got ur point, but i think that a BP/Tank with DC Robe Set, Som+A and Tateo Jewels r much more usefull in a pt than a SPS/EE with same equips atm.

Ofc that if u go pvp in Varka u will have a lot of problems with those equips, but still better to play a support char than a nuker with average A/S items.

show me a bp/pal in DC and TT-jewels  defeating 1 pt of archer and mage at varka plz :)

For any char/class u need the best stuff now. starting here from 0 its a pain believe me :D
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Gonzal on October 05, 2010, 12:31:18 PM
Quote from: Evolution on October 05, 2010, 08:32:25 AM
gg and this buff bot is still able to kill u  :D even if ol/ee get nerv to the bone.  ::) and y right... now i use it only for support clan. new pvp multiclass incoming!  ;D
Sorry if i hurt your feelings but thats the sad true... the OL drain was fuked since att system came (now u got fuked for all the QQ u made when track made it dark atk based in the past  ::) ) im waiting multiclass also  ;D
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: milampalas on October 05, 2010, 06:53:37 PM
for sure the best support char to help is ol/ee.. never had but by the time i had all other overlord subs.. i know is better:)
great serf buffs and if u know how to hide... u need only 1600 k speed and all ally is alive:)
but also a healer or a bd/se iare also very usefull in parties...
now if u have good equip and u know how to play... go for a sps/ee... all time classic and is really great...
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: SauroN on October 05, 2010, 06:57:10 PM
NE/TK ftw  ;D
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Wizjoner on October 05, 2010, 07:02:06 PM
Quote from: Over_Crash on October 04, 2010, 04:05:50 PM
Hi...  need help for make nem good mage...

Sh/Ps
Sps/Ee
Nc/Wk
Ol/Ee
or any other

For PVE and PVP

mage has any better at the moment?


thx

sps/ee or necro/ee (necro/wk = waste of horn)
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Locus on October 05, 2010, 07:39:59 PM
Necro/OL   real pain in the ass..  ;)
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Sali on October 06, 2010, 02:48:04 AM
Quote from: Weezer on October 05, 2010, 02:33:03 AM
Spending the same ammount u can make a PA/WL and will be much more usefull to a clan for PVE and PVP than ur mage on DC + AM+A.  ;)
this dude dont seems to be in a clan/ally that participate in some bigger events like sieges/land bosses, else way he would use clan/ally forum to ask what is needed. So i guess he need a char to play, and it will be way easier to gear mage for small amount of coins to farm/even pvp more efectivly

ps:nec/sor FTW
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Evolution on October 06, 2010, 10:11:01 AM
Quote from: Sali on October 06, 2010, 02:48:04 AM
this dude dont seems to be in a clan/ally that participate in some bigger events like sieges/land bosses, else way he would use clan/ally forum to ask what is needed. So i guess he need a char to play, and it will be way easier to gear mage for small amount of coins to farm/even pvp more efectivly

ps:nec/sor FTW

y its good when u have  sws/wc  bd/pp behind  ::)
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: WindPhoenix on October 06, 2010, 08:49:12 PM
Quote from: Wizjoner on October 05, 2010, 07:02:06 PM
sps/ee or necro/ee (necro/wk = waste of horn)
right. a mutant stuck at level 80 is better than a level 85 ne/wk? in your dreams.
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: trooperXkoki on October 06, 2010, 11:51:34 PM
Quote from: WindPhoenix on October 06, 2010, 08:49:12 PM
right. a mutant stuck at level 80 is better than a level 85 ne/wk? in your dreams.
skills +9 = +16? :D
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Sali on October 07, 2010, 01:07:41 AM
Quote from: Evolution on October 06, 2010, 10:11:01 AM
y its good when u have  sws/wc  bd/pp behind  ::)
bd/se is all he would need to go here and there
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Wizjoner on October 07, 2010, 01:20:35 AM
Quote from: WindPhoenix on October 06, 2010, 08:49:12 PM
right. a mutant stuck at level 80 is better than a level 85 ne/wk? in your dreams.

yeah i sure necro/ee i much more better than necro/wk 85 lvl

better way is sorc/wk

Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: lol on October 13, 2010, 02:13:41 PM
i've heard ne/th is good, or as support you can try bd/sws ? : )
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: joroboro on October 13, 2010, 02:22:03 PM
sps/ee have the best skill for pvp  - sleep and cancel
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Arienrod on October 13, 2010, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: Weezer on October 04, 2010, 07:19:01 PM
1st of all u need to decide what kind of char u wanna play, main DD (nuker) or support char.

To decide what kind of char u gonna play u must consider some things:

- playstyle: on this u also must consider if u play alone, with friends, clan
- equips available: rly important this one cause a support char can be played with average A/S grade equips, but to play as nuker u must have good equips
- what kind of char ur clan needs: ofc if u have clan

If u decide to play as nuker u have some rly good options, i suggest SPS char and u can choose sub to EE (rly good on self buffs) or ES (better casting speed and reuse delay of skills). Another interesting option would be SH/PS u will have the better M. Attack IG and a great casting. SPS is more about magic critical rate than m. attack.

If u decide to play as support i suggest some combos with OL (CP spam for clan/ally) or BP/Tank. Another interesting option would be BD/SE, its a good class to play as support for clan (most of clans dont have people who play BD/SE as main char atm).

+1
answer abut playstyle, clan style, ur will first:D

and yes for occasional pvps an even middle stuffed mage  can be useful in pvp as buffs and resists play a lot... but it turns useless in front of a quite buffed and resist buffed team.

It's clear now for new players without money the best way is to come in an established clan and to participate as "assist/healer/buffer" (no offense in those words). BD/SE SWS/EE BP/TANK BP/WC ... are surely more welcomed even with middle stuff rather than a a big necro/DA in a full mage pvp party ;p

if soon we can have sub DN on retail of our main char, we should see funky combo  8) bishop/spoiler FTW!

viva
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Grosse on October 14, 2010, 07:09:59 PM
Good mage is dead mage
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: scary on October 14, 2010, 07:49:04 PM
necro/pal , or sps/tk  , the bets choise
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Locus on October 14, 2010, 11:24:08 PM
Quote from: scary on October 14, 2010, 07:49:04 PM
necro/pal , or sps/tk  , the bets choise

yeah and in party ppl will have more bots then live players, because all will do DD,BP/tank
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: scary on October 15, 2010, 02:05:25 PM
Quote from: Locus on October 14, 2010, 11:24:08 PM
yeah and in party ppl will have more bots then live players, because all will do DD,BP/tank
who needs pt
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Locus on October 15, 2010, 02:38:44 PM
Quote from: scary on October 15, 2010, 02:05:25 PM
who needs pt

bane, cancel or silence and tank sub wont help you if you dont have good party
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Gonzal on October 15, 2010, 03:21:21 PM
if u are looking for clan i recommend u make a sws/sps or a bd/sh
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: scary on October 15, 2010, 08:47:39 PM
Quote from: Locus on October 15, 2010, 02:38:44 PM
bane, cancel or silence and tank sub wont help you if you dont have good party

if ur talkiing about me, i always have bots so i dont need pt xDD anyway in nm doesnt have mass pvp`s thats need party`s, except sieges .
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: Sali on October 16, 2010, 01:02:54 AM
Quote from: scary on October 15, 2010, 08:47:39 PM
if ur talkiing about me, i always have bots so i dont need pt xDD anyway in nm doesnt have mass pvp`s thats need party`s, except sieges .
so true....
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: chlipus on October 16, 2010, 01:05:46 AM
don't make mage, mages sux now, make archer
Title: Re: Good Mage
Post by: spashqq on October 16, 2010, 11:24:19 AM
go sps/es  ;D