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Title: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Shadowsora on November 22, 2010, 01:16:57 AM
Dedly Blow and Critical Blow make same damage of Mortal Blow O.o and don't take more damage with queen ant, baium, death wisper, feline and fire dance  ??? ???  Check lethal too! 60 test skill no lethal WTF!
Pliz fix it!

Edit: Lethal Blow too! OMFG same damage of mortal blow 1st class skill
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7344/shot00052u.jpg)
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Ashee on November 22, 2010, 09:58:12 AM
well either you you play on another server or your dagger is lvl1 or Ure using one handed blunt instead of dagger, cause the daggers I met show tottaly different picture. They skills are just fine if not OverPowered. Seriously. When i saw this topic i thought it will be about: Omg they backstab on dyna robe 6k. So nothing wrong with daggers. Keep on testing ;)
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Shilen on November 22, 2010, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: Ashee on November 22, 2010, 09:58:12 AM
well either you you play on another server or your dagger is lvl1 or Ure using one handed blunt instead of dagger, cause the daggers I met show tottaly different picture. They skills are just fine if not OverPowered. Seriously. When i saw this topic i thought it will be about: Omg they backstab on dyna robe 6k. So nothing wrong with daggers. Keep on testing ;)
+1
check some olympiad matches vs daggers  :)
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Shadowsora on November 22, 2010, 12:38:02 PM
Quote from: Ashee on November 22, 2010, 09:58:12 AM
well either you you play on another server or your dagger is lvl1 or Ure using one handed blunt instead of dagger, cause the daggers I met show tottaly different picture. They skills are just fine if not OverPowered. Seriously. When i saw this topic i thought it will be about: Omg they backstab on dyna robe 6k. So nothing wrong with daggers. Keep on testing ;)

Maybe is for attribute my dagger w/o attribute don't make this damage
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Akira on November 22, 2010, 01:29:44 PM
Quote from: Ashee on November 22, 2010, 09:58:12 AM
well either you you play on another server or your dagger is lvl1 or Ure using one handed blunt instead of dagger, cause the daggers I met show tottaly different picture. They skills are just fine if not OverPowered. Seriously. When i saw this topic i thought it will be about: Omg they backstab on dyna robe 6k. So nothing wrong with daggers. Keep on testing ;)

you know nothing about daggers ^^
their skills here are not overpowered, and many skills do not work in a proper way, some arent working at all >.> nevertheless 6k on dyna robe, but with what dagger? with what eq? :)
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Wizjoner on November 22, 2010, 02:00:01 PM
Quote from: Akira on November 22, 2010, 01:29:44 PM
you know nothing about daggers ^^
their skills here are not overpowered, and many skills do not work in a proper way, some arent working at all >.> nevertheless 6k on dyna robe, but with what dagger? with what eq? :)

lol, read again him post
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Wizjoner on November 22, 2010, 02:03:53 PM
Quote from: Shadowsora on November 22, 2010, 01:16:57 AM
Check lethal too! 60 test skill no lethal WTF!

u are so stupid, this sh1t should be pernamently deleted :P
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Shadowsora on November 22, 2010, 03:01:33 PM
Quote from: Wizjoner on November 22, 2010, 02:03:53 PM
u are so stupid, this sh1t should be pernamently deleted :P

Delete your brain...oh! sry you done already!
If u suck vs dagger stop cry and make dagger you too
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Shilen on November 22, 2010, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: Shadowsora on November 22, 2010, 01:16:57 AM
Dedly Blow and Critical Blow make same damage of Mortal Blow O.o and don't take more damage with queen ant, baium, death wisper, feline and fire dance  ??? ???  Check lethal too! 60 test skill no lethal WTF!
Pliz fix it!

Edit: Lethal Blow too! OMFG same damage of mortal blow 1st class skill
daggers with good equ can own almost anyone in 1 vs 1 (since its not a "mass pvp char").
as i said before, jsut check some oly matches for eg, where daggers have dyna stuffs and u will see their dmg
yeah, probably with skillcrit, but if u wanna hit 3k w/o skillcrit, then think about that, u will hit 6k-7k with that, which is pretty much
i dont say that GMs should nerf dagger (maybe a bit, but i dont really care) but im sure they should not boost 'em
and about lethal.. as i noticed on DN lethal has far more chance than on official (~5%), prolly u were unlucky, i saw many times lethal by 1 skill :)
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: fabioy on November 22, 2010, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: Shadowsora on November 22, 2010, 01:16:57 AM
Dedly Blow and Critical Blow make same damage of Mortal Blow O.o and don't take more damage with queen ant, baium, death wisper, feline and fire dance  ??? ???  Check lethal too! 60 test skill no lethal WTF!
Pliz fix it!

Edit: Lethal Blow too! OMFG same damage of mortal blow 1st class skill

is true i try, back stab i hit for 800 dmg and whit dedly blow 50 dmg,ahahah wtf is it?now dagger have only backstab for fight aahahaha
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Shilen on November 22, 2010, 06:06:48 PM
Quote from: fabioy on November 22, 2010, 05:31:18 PM
is true i try, back stab i hit for 800 dmg and whit dedly blow 50 dmg,ahahah wtf is it?now dagger have only backstab for fight aahahaha
yeah and i hit 10 dmg with draco bow!!!
fix it!
unbelivable qq..
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: fabioy on November 22, 2010, 06:27:25 PM
Quote from: Shilen on November 22, 2010, 06:06:48 PM
yeah and i hit 10 dmg with draco bow!!!
fix it!
unbelivable qq..

OMG u cannot kill dagger and Wanna bug for it, if u no have dagger shut up and NO QQ
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Shilen on November 22, 2010, 06:32:16 PM
Quote from: fabioy on November 22, 2010, 06:27:25 PM
OMG u cannot kill dagger and Wanna bug for it, if u no have dagger shut up and NO QQ
xD
yeah..i see u dont get the point
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Ashee on November 22, 2010, 06:58:17 PM
Quote from: Shilen on November 22, 2010, 05:22:20 PM
daggers with good equ can own almost anyone in 1 vs 1 (since its not a "mass pvp char").
as i said before, jsut check some oly matches for eg, where daggers have dyna stuffs and u will see their dmg
yeah, probably with skillcrit, but if u wanna hit 3k w/o skillcrit, then think about that, u will hit 6k-7k with that, which is pretty much
i dont say that GMs should nerf dagger (maybe a bit, but i dont really care) but im sure they should not boost 'em
and about lethal.. as i noticed on DN lethal has far more chance than on official (~5%), prolly u were unlucky, i saw many times lethal by 1 skill :)
Quote from: fabioy on November 22, 2010, 06:27:25 PM
OMG u cannot kill dagger and Wanna bug for it, if u no have dagger shut up and NO QQ

Shilen said that daggers shouldnt be nerfed. If you cant read or you dont talk english then maybe its not the right place for you.

And if daggers were nerfed since yesterday or two days before. (When they actually had hard damage) then this topic is good but if not, then please ask daggers in normal equip if they have problem with their dmg. They should say "its alright" cause actually its more then alright... Maybe you use skill like: Focus Death from front? Or i really dont know whats wrong with you.
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: wildpussy on November 22, 2010, 07:21:49 PM
(http://www.shrani.si/f/I/G5/12ysLHpk/shot00252.jpg)

massa is eva's saint in dynasty robe set
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: fabioy on November 22, 2010, 07:59:04 PM
Quote from: wildpussy on November 22, 2010, 07:21:49 PM
(http://www.shrani.si/f/I/G5/12ysLHpk/shot00252.jpg)

massa is eva's saint in dynasty robe set

OMG i say that only backstab work....other skill no work
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Shadowsora on November 22, 2010, 08:11:32 PM
OMG you are stupid or what? i say dedly, critical and lethal! now i see only backstab on this screen!
Dagger is strong on all servers! Focus Death (90%) + AQ and baium (30%) + DW (35%) + critical woud (30%) + vicious stance (+609 p.atk during critic) + CD on weapon + full attribute = 6k damage oly! Try in other servers and you see daggers have same power!
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: wildpussy on November 22, 2010, 10:23:04 PM
deadly blow makes same damage for me, so dunno wtf you talk about

it's as+haste btw
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Shadowsora on November 22, 2010, 10:46:51 PM
Quote from: wildpussy on November 22, 2010, 10:23:04 PM
deadly blow makes same damage for me, so dunno wtf you talk about

it's as+haste btw


Maybe a few days ago try now! If you have TH try skill (no backstab) is same low damage of mortal blow
my hit:
Backstab: 1847
Dedly, Binding, Critical, Lethal: 28

1847 => 28  WTF?!?!

Edit:
Look Screen:
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7344/shot00052u.jpg)

Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: wildpussy on November 23, 2010, 12:16:42 AM
i will try tomorrow, about 2 days ago, it was fine :P

u are sure there are no normal hits here?

even mortal blow should make much more
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Shadowsora on November 23, 2010, 12:18:39 AM
Quote from: wildpussy on November 23, 2010, 12:16:42 AM
i will try tomorrow, about 2 days ago, it was fine :P

u are sure there are no normal hits here?

even mortal blow should make much more

Look screen...
You use mortal blow
You use blinding blow
etc..
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Davy on November 23, 2010, 02:49:48 AM
what about the chance skill didn't land and u used normal hit? because if u hold blow while reusing it's normal hit
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Shadowsora on November 23, 2010, 02:51:41 AM
Quote from: Davy on November 23, 2010, 02:49:48 AM
what about the chance skill didn't land and u used normal hit? because if u hold blow while reusing it's normal hit

OMG go to try! Im not only with this problem and i think that gms are not stupid!
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: +GekKey+ on November 23, 2010, 03:14:06 AM
Quote from: Shadowsora on November 22, 2010, 01:16:57 AM
Dedly Blow and Critical Blow make same damage of Mortal Blow O.o and don't take more damage with queen ant, baium, death wisper, feline and fire dance  ??? ???  Check lethal too! 60 test skill no lethal WTF!
Pliz fix it!

Edit: Lethal Blow too! OMFG same damage of mortal blow 1st class skill
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7344/shot00052u.jpg)


This screen can be valid

IF UR LETAL/BLOW DONT LAND, SYSTEM WONT SAY ANYTHING SO HERE WHAT COULD HAPPEN

LETAL (failed system says nothing)
HIT NPC (with dagger >> 28 dmg)
MORTAL BLOW (fail system says nothing)
HIT NPC AGAIN (with dagger >> 28 dmg, again.)

so...
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Ashee on November 23, 2010, 02:54:29 PM
Yeah and Th has low landing rate so that could be the answer. But ask IdraksLord. He surely knows if sg wrong. But i havent heard him "cryin" about it so should be fine.
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: violetpl on November 23, 2010, 03:11:58 PM
omg try dager + atrybut and skils + that atry
btw wp nice dmg
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: fabioy on November 23, 2010, 03:59:20 PM
Pls only gm's answer no brainless ty :)
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Akira on November 23, 2010, 04:57:26 PM
I am not a GM, but i have got a dagger class, yes the dmg is kinda lower i guess, but not as low as you wrote it here. normal hit w/o buffs was around 800 - 1000, crit a bit more.

about pvping and screen of taisio's daggers dmg.
I would laugh hard if he had hitted for much less than he did with such equipment :)
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: Shadowsora on November 23, 2010, 05:02:29 PM
Quote from: Akira on November 23, 2010, 04:57:26 PM
I am not a GM, but i have got a dagger class, yes the dmg is kinda lower i guess, but not as low as you wrote it here. normal hit w/o buffs was around 800 - 1000, crit a bit more.

about pvping and screen of taisio's daggers dmg.
I would laugh hard if he had hitted for much less than he did with such equipment :)

I don't know your equip.... in screen i have kris shadow and i was w/o soul shot
Title: Re: Bug skill dagger :S
Post by: wildpussy on November 23, 2010, 10:58:50 PM
Quote from: Akira on November 23, 2010, 04:57:26 PM
I am not a GM, but i have got a dagger class, yes the dmg is kinda lower i guess, but not as low as you wrote it here. normal hit w/o buffs was around 800 - 1000, crit a bit more.

about pvping and screen of taisio's daggers dmg.
I would laugh hard if he had hitted for much less than he did with such equipment :)
what is so special with equipment
as+haste+3 with attribute
dynasty light dagger master (has less patk than draco set, also little less atk spd)
ant queen ring
baium ring
necklase of valakas (+4% patk) - the only abnormal item what not half server can afford ^^
monks empowered

change class to one more simple archer if you don't know dagger powers xD