As i spoke on topic before here is some new topic to bring on a better conclusion about chance was did on char destro/tyrant.
Some ppl can call it crying and whatever. If i will not post and speak about it nothing will chance so lets do it.
Change on cryt dmg for two-handed weapons on bizon is a total exclusion for this char from PvP, Inside Olympiad arena and outside of town.
All changes GMs made before were good, i agreed with healing after start on oly, no doubt that it was needed. But this nerf here is just pointless. Orcs and [other chars!] still can kill raid bosses easy. Tyrant/destroyer... maybe not so popular char coz of difficulty in playing and been non effective on pvp like others took a HUGE disadvantage coz his main power is gone.
Still some players want to play this char so i calls to GMs to change it back and start solving problem with easy rb farming from the beginning. Destro/tytant isnt only farm char! To solve easy rb farm problem, start from working on raidbosses. GMs! U can make them stronger, change their features, thats whats gonna make it better.
and must be lifted Orc's bow penalty
Kamael are making to low dmg too ^^
Quote from: Diver on December 02, 2010, 12:32:26 PM
Kamael are making to low dmg too ^^
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Sorry Szii i feel you and i sympatize with your cause but....
MI TOO I WANNA CHAR WHO POWNZ IN RB's/OLY AND PIVIPIIII PLOX PLOX PLOX!!
You can't have it all! Almost real life Like don't you think?
Next time you feel like QQ over your char. Think about ppl who Don't pown in pivipi/Oly and can't even kill a miserable Rb.....Something like ME! And be Happy!
Quote from: dusaka on December 02, 2010, 12:10:17 PM
and must be lifted Orc's bow penalty
LoooooooooL Ofc!! I'm picturing Ty/Dest on Bizon/frenzy/zealot/etc with Bow Range......!! Entire clans down to their feets.....Dead....Killed by you.... and than you woke up! And it was just a dream!! Game Over! KKTYBB
Quote from: Javardsnegger on December 02, 2010, 03:24:44 PM
Sorry Szii i fell you and i sympatize but....
MI TOO I WANNA CHAR WHO POWNZ IN RB's/OLY AND PIVIPIIII PLOX PLOX PLOX!!
You can't have it all! Almost real life Like don't you think!!
Try to play some DE/TY as main char not just for RB or trains and u will discover it sucks in almost all things except RB and trains.
Atm DE/TY was soo nerfed that dont have any chances in PVP's, and before this nerfs wasn't good chances too but those few who knew how to play this char still could make a lot of mess on enemies.
Try to find some active DE/TY on server atm, u will discover that all (except for szi) r alt chars just to kill RB and trains. That's why none complain about how DE/TY r nerfed for PVP and Oly, but szi play it as active and even with all those nerfs he still play with his char cause he like it and this topic was made to improve things on his class.
Weez, i didn't said he wasn't right to try to defend his char with all he has! I know smth about dedication to a weaker char i played glad/pp for 4 years here! Since c3 times! Every1 remembers how much it sucked! And just when glad got some power (interlude/Gracia) they got nerfed here! All i'm saying is that we can't have only 1 combo who's good at killing rb's/oly/pvp!
I dunno much about de/ty cause like i alrdy said i never owned 1. If you guys say he should be tweaked up a bit than i agree.
<3
Quote from: sziii on December 02, 2010, 11:19:27 AM
As i spoke on topic before here is some new topic to bring on a better conclusion about chance was did on char destro/tyrant.
Some ppl can call it crying and whatever. If i will not post and speak about it nothing will chance so lets do it.
Change on cryt dmg for two-handed weapons on bizon is a total exclusion for this char from PvP, Inside Olympiad arena and outside of town.
All changes GMs made before were good, i agreed with healing after start on oly, no doubt that it was needed. But this nerf here is just pointless. Orcs and [other chars!] still can kill raid bosses easy. Tyrant/destroyer... maybe not so popular char coz of difficulty in playing and been non effective on pvp like others took a HUGE disadvantage coz his main power is gone.
Still some players want to play this char so i calls to GMs to change it back and start solving problem with easy rb farming from the beginning. Destro/tytant isnt only farm char! To solve easy rb farm problem, start from working on raidbosses. GMs! U can make them stronger, change their features, thats whats gonna make it better.
+1 for that
Good idea, making rb rly hard to kill for 1-2 "farmers"
and fixing the nerfs of orcs
Quote from: Javardsnegger on December 02, 2010, 03:24:44 PM
Sorry Szii i feel you and i sympatize with your cause but....
MI TOO I WANNA CHAR WHO POWNZ IN RB's/OLY AND PIVIPIIII PLOX PLOX PLOX!!
You can't have it all! Almost real life Like don't you think?
Next time you feel like QQ over your char. Think about ppl who Don't pown in pivipi/Oly and can't even kill a miserable Rb.....Something like ME! And be Happy!
I respect ur opinion but like weezer told u try to play with destro/tyrant vs players, not vs mobs. BTW this is topic about nerf on two-hended weapons. Imo all nerfs before on ty/de were good, but this one is just NERF FAIL. RBs still die fast , no problem to kill them, and weak pvp char became weaker pvp char - im sure it wasnt GMs intention. If u got me, give support - write it here. THX
ps. Yes U can pown in pvp and Oly!! But u have to work hard for it. I worked hard, rly hard. I would like to see my mob kill score... i have fun mostly from char building. And here i get nerf so im wiped. And rb still die fast...
ty/de is fine still can kill easy rb so this topic is useles
Some ideas:
1_ Make High Lvl RBs resist to sword/blunt weapons;
2_Allow players to give buffs to RBs, and also trick (dagger skill) as we could do some years ago;
3_If nerf for 1 race, nerf for all races.
Any of these options will be good to undo the nerf on orcs...(the opinion of a 4 years orc player)
Quote from: chlipus on December 03, 2010, 11:38:32 PM
ty/de is fine still can kill easy rb so this topic is useles
ill repeat once again, ur an idiot+go back to primary school to take some reading lessons, szi in all topics complain about nerf affecting his pvp ability while killing rb is not any harder. Can u die now and top replay ur qq shiz?
/agree
this nerf totally makes orcs not viable for pvp, if you wanted to change their rb farm ability you'd better do something with raidbosses themselves, not with characters
stop flame and cry lol nobody will listen to u...
Quote from: Sali on December 04, 2010, 01:42:18 PM
ill repeat once again, ur an idiot+go back to primary school to take some reading lessons, szi in all topics complain about nerf affecting his pvp ability while killing rb is not any harder. Can u die now and top replay ur qq shiz?
iti go home, go and eat more and more and more fatty guy
Please dont insult each other in my post, just let it go and dont care. :]
Give so support for this thing if u got my point. RB still die fast and de/tyr suck more on pvp.
Im sure that GMs will think about it like thay did about skills rdy to use after oly fights. I made post like about it before and after long time but they did it, and its great. Improvements to sever will bring here more ppl and GMs know that more players means more money. I came back after big changes they did, this community is great and server idea is unique. Im sure about more ppl who came back i meet them and they feel the same. I care about good changes to server coz i like to play here, i play only de.tyr as main char so i see what they can do with this, other players see good changes about their chars. Its not crying, its community duty to make things like this. Btw with experience and items its not hard to pown:mobs, rb, pvp. I think about others who like this char and they have average items. Maybe after this nerf they will leave Nightmare. When u must change char because of changes like that it looks like also u have to change server.
Quote from: sziii on December 05, 2010, 11:39:32 AM
Please dont insult each other in my post, just let it go and dont care. :]
Give so support for this thing if u got my point. RB still die fast and de/tyr suck more on pvp.
Im sure that GMs will think about it like thay did about skills rdy to use after oly fights. I made post like about it before and after long time but they did it, and its great. Improvements to sever will bring here more ppl and GMs know that more players means more money. I came back after big changes they did, this community is great and server idea is unique. Im sure about more ppl who came back i meet them and they feel the same. I care about good changes to server coz i like to play here, i play only de.tyr as main char so i see what they can do with this, other players see good changes about their chars. Its not crying, its community duty to make things like this. Btw with experience and items its not hard to pown:mobs, rb, pvp. I think about others who like this char and they have average items. Maybe after this nerf they will leave Nightmare. When u must change char because of changes like that it looks like also u have to change server.
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+1
I now have a dead Ty/De because I dont have RB set and dyna armour/wep, Now char is nearly useless to me for farming and everyone knows Ty/De is easy kill now so they PK all the time..........
Quote from: sziii on December 05, 2010, 11:39:32 AM
Please dont insult each other in my post, just let it go and dont care. :]
Give so support for this thing if u got my point. RB still die fast and de/tyr suck more on pvp.
Im sure that GMs will think about it like thay did about skills rdy to use after oly fights. I made post like about it before and after long time but they did it, and its great. Improvements to sever will bring here more ppl and GMs know that more players means more money. I came back after big changes they did, this community is great and server idea is unique. Im sure about more ppl who came back i meet them and they feel the same. I care about good changes to server coz i like to play here, i play only de.tyr as main char so i see what they can do with this, other players see good changes about their chars. Its not crying, its community duty to make things like this. Btw with experience and items its not hard to pown:mobs, rb, pvp. I think about others who like this char and they have average items. Maybe after this nerf they will leave Nightmare. When u must change char because of changes like that it looks like also u have to change server.
ty/de is death class on pvp, ppl make ty/de for farm, and this nerf is not only ty/de nerf
Quote from: chlipus on December 05, 2010, 07:05:34 PM
ty/de is death class on pvp, ppl make ty/de for rarm, and it nerf it is not only ty/de nerf
ou ou ou ou ou!
Quote from: chlipus on December 05, 2010, 07:05:34 PM
ty/de is death class on pvp, ppl make ty/de for rarm, and it nerf it is not only ty/de nerf
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sry i dunno english
Quote from: Weezer on December 02, 2010, 03:47:37 PM
Try to play some DE/TY as main char not just for RB or trains and u will discover it sucks in almost all things except RB and trains.
Atm DE/TY was soo nerfed that dont have any chances in PVP's, and before this nerfs wasn't good chances too but those few who knew how to play this char still could make a lot of mess on enemies.
Try to find some active DE/TY on server atm, u will discover that all (except for szi) r alt chars just to kill RB and trains. That's why none complain about how DE/TY r nerfed for PVP and Oly, but szi play it as active and even with all those nerfs he still play with his char cause he like it and this topic was made to improve things on his class.
so better stop exist de/ty at server ...ok gm delet that char isnt useless to have at game...cmon all want to play some char..all char have the same opportunity in this serve or all must have....to make a char the easier target in 1 pvp isnt good..i remember szi in 1 pvp hit me 25k..i think is was normal..in frenzy can pown me...but in frenza have 2-3k hp..so can kill me easy can i can kill him easy..now he no have balance..fix ty/de!!!
Quote from: chlipus on December 05, 2010, 07:05:34 PM
ty/de is death class on pvp, ppl make ty/de for farm, and this nerf is not only ty/de nerf
tak mialo byc
Quote from: sziii on December 02, 2010, 11:19:27 AM
As i spoke on topic before here is some new topic to bring on a better conclusion about chance was did on char destro/tyrant.
Some ppl can call it crying and whatever. If i will not post and speak about it nothing will chance so lets do it.
Change on cryt dmg for two-handed weapons on bizon is a total exclusion for this char from PvP, Inside Olympiad arena and outside of town.
All changes GMs made before were good, i agreed with healing after start on oly, no doubt that it was needed. But this nerf here is just pointless. Orcs and [other chars!] still can kill raid bosses easy. Tyrant/destroyer... maybe not so popular char coz of difficulty in playing and been non effective on pvp like others took a HUGE disadvantage coz his main power is gone.
Still some players want to play this char so i calls to GMs to change it back and start solving problem with easy rb farming from the beginning. Destro/tytant isnt only farm char! To solve easy rb farm problem, start from working on raidbosses. GMs! U can make them stronger, change their features, thats whats gonna make it better.
how much power on pvp des/tyrant lost? 50%?
Quote from: sziii on December 19, 2010, 12:37:40 PM
how much power on pvp des/tyrant lost? 50%?
i think more .... ~70% , ofc it was made to make ty/de farm rb's harder and longer, but gm's needed to make it other way ...
Set up at all RB's "Resist Blunt Weapon", but give back power to this chars... It was fun on mass pvp to see 1-2 ty/de , cause he could kill people with 1-2 crits ;)) ( but they must run through the whole battlefield !! )