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Title: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: jilon on December 27, 2010, 03:51:00 PM
As per usual, the situation of the Dragon GM is unacceptable.

Our community is used to it and just "get over it" most of the time, it's a free server after all.

I would have liked to keep a complete list of the things that happened, but even if I did, you'd be bored after a few pages. I'd like if it was sarcasm, but it's not. There's daily issues. So let's name a few.
Each and every on these points in the list is true and accurate. So many people are aware of it, that it's not needed to justify them.

- GM killing people with Akamanah in Olympiad
- GM being the personal GK of certain clans and friendly cursed sword bearers
- GM forcing people to give away the cursed sword when they want some fun
- GM audio channel filled with L2W players asking tips on how to cheat with it
- GM banning people for imaginary reasons
- GM adding rules when it can give them some in game advantage (2+1 hero allowed magic rule last month, being able to see everyone's current class wasn't enough that month)
- GM take coins and items from scammers for their own gain, often "scammers" and "allegro sellers" did not do anything bad, but the GM can gain a lot of money (for example Psyck's case)
- GM resell those coins cheaper than Drake (0.6E/coin)
- GM banning anyone making good items or better than them claiming they must be some exploit (which no one hear about again, because there is no exploit)


How do they make it last? By terrorizing players.

Any "bad" word results in in game ban. Even if there's nothing about GM's staff, but the player is known to talk a bit too much, there will be a small ban "for no reason".
The player will complain, loudly, and often get a longer ban.

Deleting forum topics. Because they think no one have read them already, maybe. Especially the topics reporting their friends heavily botting and such things. Complaining about topic deletion results into the forum account being deleted, or in game ban for flaming GM work.

Since players can't tell Drake and GMs are into this together, you've a few choices:
- hope you'll keep a low profile and play with bad gear (you might always be banned for being at the wrong place someday)
- change server (we're talking about another network here, because other servers are dead on DN - which amusingly Dragon GMs keep reminding us. Do NM, INF, VLK admins know about this? They make fun of you guys once a month and how you're all dead servers.)

The most recent act was banning most of my fellow Serenity mates, because they made newly enchanted weapons and armors, with the new enchant rate which is a lot higher than before, rate which you can find here:

http://www.dragon-network.net/lore/enchantrates.html

Maybe GM's didn't read the loader. Or most likely, they were just jealous, GMs are supposed to be the richest players. Don't ask me why, since they don't farm, it's just how it should be! (or read again how they take the "scammers" money and keep it - and this has Drake's approval)

They don't need proof, only to say "it must be exploit". "You buy it from Rarus exploiter". We know where the money and equipment from these bans will go. (into events where the winner acquire 50dc - but the banned equipment  goes for 5000dc, do they think we're that dumb?)

A day later, wandering on the market, what can we see.. a GM clan with +10 armor
. In chat before going to sleep he told me that he made it yesterday.
(http://imgtheif.com/pictures/4c831b9e3cc4cb8c03c5dceca0756a55.png)

You'll never see him in the permanent ban list. He's not even a big farmer like we are. The conclusion? GM are as bad as ever on Dragon. Banning around people they don't like without reason, making money on the back of the server and Drake and using their advantages to tyrannize players and maximum profit until the server dies.
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: Torek on December 27, 2010, 04:27:17 PM
join 5x we have good gm  :D
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: ColdBuffs on December 27, 2010, 07:13:53 PM
JESUS CHRIST!
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: mrialinda on December 27, 2010, 07:54:04 PM
QQ more
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: Domeniack on December 27, 2010, 08:43:37 PM
Nothing new... and why are you still playing? Just quit, there are a bunch of other good games out there and many of them are free :)
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: 6bIK on December 27, 2010, 08:43:49 PM
Quote from: Torek on December 27, 2010, 04:27:17 PM
join 5x we have good gm  :D
+1 ;]
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: SouthGate on December 27, 2010, 08:53:45 PM
u have right and its nothing comparing what we all dont know,just change server/game.end of your problems  :-*
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: Clear on December 27, 2010, 11:24:42 PM
Quote from: Domeniack on December 27, 2010, 08:43:37 PM
Nothing new... and why are you still playing?

that post is going soft on gms, theyve done much worse. and people would move server if they didnt alrdy put so much effort into theyre chars / all theyre friends are here etc

Torek --> have infinify gm move chars over.. dragon population will become 5 overnight  (4 gms + that tard mrialinda who just happeneds 2 be in a gm clan)
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: Dumbled0re on December 28, 2010, 11:49:37 AM
Do not use drugs...
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: llllllllll on December 28, 2010, 11:56:08 AM
i remember smth happened on Dragon x15 when i was playing there
we had a clan mate / friend , who picked up a Zaken +6 (it was on interlude or c4 i dont remember) so a GM (that i wont name) logged with his char , gave the zaken+6 to the guy who dropped it..
its dragon , GMs rules there :D
Nightmare rox tbh
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: SouthGate on December 28, 2010, 11:59:21 AM
Quote from: llllllllll on December 28, 2010, 11:56:08 AM
i remember smth happened on Dragon x15 when i was playing there
we had a clan mate / friend , who picked up a Zaken +6 (it was on interlude or c4 i dont remember) so a GM (that i wont name) logged with his char , gave the zaken+6 to the guy who dropped it..
its dragon , GMs rules there :D
Nightmare rox tbh
Nightmare has lower population.
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: llllllllll on December 28, 2010, 05:32:52 PM
Quote from: SouthGate on December 28, 2010, 11:59:21 AM
Nightmare has lower population.
still NM isn't starwars like dragon
and yes that GM was elcharro , aka  sealtiel with its +25 AM getting pwn at oly always ;)
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: SouthGate on December 28, 2010, 07:47:53 PM
Quote from: llllllllll on December 28, 2010, 05:32:52 PM
still NM isn't starwars like dragon
and yes that GM was elcharro , aka  sealtiel with its +25 AM getting pwn at oly always ;)
we need track on dragon <3
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: kang on December 29, 2010, 11:29:17 PM
Quote from: GN on December 28, 2010, 05:23:46 PM
GN! Did you get Gm status or are bogs at xmas price ?!! xD
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: Alex on December 31, 2010, 12:09:12 AM
Quote from: GN on December 30, 2010, 11:07:26 PM
love too see normal guys !

no sir i didnt  !!1111 YET[size=666pt] ![/size]

maybe on 31st of December at 12 am a Miracle will happen? u know people say it sometimes does.
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: Alex on December 31, 2010, 12:15:16 AM
Quote from: llllllllll on December 28, 2010, 05:32:52 PM
still NM isn't starwars like dragon
and yes that GM was elcharro , aka  sealtiel with its +25 AM getting pwn at oly always ;)

sry but track sells deep blue icarus weapons and +8 dnets so he just keeps an illusion that u dont have "starwars". All dragon has is some old red normal s-grade which is almost useless since in most cases icarus is better and red weapons are not allowed on oly, while after HB nightmare was faaar ahead of us by having OE icarus weapons and DNET.

Quote from: SouthGate on December 28, 2010, 07:47:53 PM
we need track on dragon <3

no thx we dont
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: Blind on December 31, 2010, 03:13:51 PM
There is no Rus(Ua) admin since one year.
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: za on December 31, 2010, 06:30:31 PM
join x9    no GM there  ;D
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: SouthGate on January 01, 2011, 02:20:29 PM
Quote from: Tunta on January 01, 2011, 02:15:03 PM
Fan club of Glasy is getting new members every day.
cause drake is still getting money with his x15 gm crew,he dosnt need to change anything since glasy isnt baning donators or ppl which has some kind of privileges :) for drake we are just bunch of criers  :-*
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: Jamesisko on January 01, 2011, 03:45:45 PM
Quote from: SouthGate on December 28, 2010, 07:47:53 PM
we need track on dragon <3

hehe, TrackZero on Dragon x15 == population down ;P
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: sziii on January 02, 2011, 10:57:11 AM
That will be very important new year for dragon-network. Since servers are down donators will not donate. And as long it will stay like this they will dont donate coz We all afraid that dragon-network is over. It should make server owner clear the situation and discipline GMs.
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: thehunted on January 03, 2011, 02:05:01 AM
Seriously our gaming community got some serious paranoid, disturbed members...
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: Abou01 on January 03, 2011, 02:31:40 AM
Quote from: jilon on December 27, 2010, 03:51:00 PM
As per usual, the situation of the Dragon GM is unacceptable.

Our community is used to it and just "get over it" most of the time, it's a free server after all.

I would have liked to keep a complete list of the things that happened, but even if I did, you'd be bored after a few pages. I'd like if it was sarcasm, but it's not. There's daily issues. So let's name a few.
Each and every on these points in the list is true and accurate. So many people are aware of it, that it's not needed to justify them.

- GM killing people with Akamanah in Olympiad
- GM being the personal GK of certain clans and friendly cursed sword bearers
- GM forcing people to give away the cursed sword when they want some fun
- GM audio channel filled with L2W players asking tips on how to cheat with it
- GM banning people for imaginary reasons
- GM adding rules when it can give them some in game advantage (2+1 hero allowed magic rule last month, being able to see everyone's current class wasn't enough that month)
- GM take coins and items from scammers for their own gain, often "scammers" and "allegro sellers" did not do anything bad, but the GM can gain a lot of money (for example Psyck's case)
- GM resell those coins cheaper than Drake (0.6E/coin)
- GM banning anyone making good items or better than them claiming they must be some exploit (which no one hear about again, because there is no exploit)


How do they make it last? By terrorizing players.

Any "bad" word results in in game ban. Even if there's nothing about GM's staff, but the player is known to talk a bit too much, there will be a small ban "for no reason".
The player will complain, loudly, and often get a longer ban.

Deleting forum topics. Because they think no one have read them already, maybe. Especially the topics reporting their friends heavily botting and such things. Complaining about topic deletion results into the forum account being deleted, or in game ban for flaming GM work.

Since players can't tell Drake and GMs are into this together, you've a few choices:
- hope you'll keep a low profile and play with bad gear (you might always be banned for being at the wrong place someday)
- change server (we're talking about another network here, because other servers are dead on DN - which amusingly Dragon GMs keep reminding us. Do NM, INF, VLK admins know about this? They make fun of you guys once a month and how you're all dead servers.)

The most recent act was banning most of my fellow Serenity mates, because they made newly enchanted weapons and armors, with the new enchant rate which is a lot higher than before, rate which you can find here:

http://www.dragon-network.net/lore/enchantrates.html

Maybe GM's didn't read the loader. Or most likely, they were just jealous, GMs are supposed to be the richest players. Don't ask me why, since they don't farm, it's just how it should be! (or read again how they take the "scammers" money and keep it - and this has Drake's approval)

They don't need proof, only to say "it must be exploit". "You buy it from Rarus exploiter". We know where the money and equipment from these bans will go. (into events where the winner acquire 50dc - but the banned equipment  goes for 5000dc, do they think we're that dumb?)

A day later, wandering on the market, what can we see.. a GM clan with +10 armor
. In chat before going to sleep he told me that he made it yesterday.
(http://imgtheif.com/pictures/4c831b9e3cc4cb8c03c5dceca0756a55.png)

You'll never see him in the permanent ban list. He's not even a big farmer like we are. The conclusion? GM are as bad as ever on Dragon. Banning around people they don't like without reason, making money on the back of the server and Drake and using their advantages to tyrannize players and maximum profit until the server dies.






pls ...                       SHUD UP  i am in Hexa too dont flam on my clan nuub BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: Blanches on January 03, 2011, 02:51:18 AM
mouhahahhaha !!!!!!!!!!

WTF !!! you make screen about a noob major arcana robe ( drop in 4sep xD ) to enchanted with EAS ( read loader and % ).
Why you dont make screen when you can read in hero chat  " wts frintenza+10 "  from a DX member ( glasy clan )???

And if you know me in game , you can know who i'am...
i havent luck with enchant,i always buy/sell items and lot of people said to me i'am maybe the best trader of DN so... stop cry for a noob enchant+10 in sh1t armor !

This sh1t was maybe a good luck enchant but some people can told you i have make one dnet heavy set+6 with trade part ( read the wts/wtt section ;) )

Maybe something in ur post is right, but about me or the clan HEXA you are 100% wrong !
For me Mad' was the best GM in Dragon...
WHY ?

Because is my friend, and since Mad is GM .. i have lost one of my best friend In game...because he never play anymore one char for HEXA or some other clans ...

When i've stop to play (october 2009) i was in reaction clan, and not in HEXA, and MAD was not GM and if you know me ( like your screen) you will know about me i was more rich to now ... so please stop write sh1t about my clan or me.

Thanks, sry for english , and be patient the server will be up soon, stop to make sh1t topic in this forum.

Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: Blanches on January 03, 2011, 02:55:43 AM
ps: i have always this robe, if anybody is interresed the price still the same... look screen and pm me :)
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: Abou01 on January 03, 2011, 03:04:34 AM
Quote from: Blanches on January 03, 2011, 02:55:43 AM
ps: i have always this robe, if anybody is interresed the price still the same... look screen and pm me :)





BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHA
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: Blanches on January 03, 2011, 03:10:59 AM
bump again... i need adenas :)
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: Mr. Hide on January 03, 2011, 10:28:37 AM
Quote from: Blanches on January 03, 2011, 02:51:18 AM
mouhahahhaha !!!!!!!!!!

WTF !!! you make screen about a noob major arcana robe ( drop in 4sep xD ) to enchanted with EAS ( read loader and % ).
Why you dont make screen when you can read in hero chat  " wts frintenza+10 "  from a DX member ( glasy clan )???

And if you know me in game , you can know who i'am...
i havent luck with enchant,i always buy/sell items and lot of people said to me i'am maybe the best trader of DN so... stop cry for a noob enchant+10 in sh1t armor !

This sh1t was maybe a good luck enchant but some people can told you i have make one dnet heavy set+6 with trade part ( read the wts/wtt section ;) )

Maybe something in ur post is right, but about me or the clan HEXA you are 100% wrong !
For me Mad' was the best GM in Dragon...
WHY ?

Because is my friend, and since Mad is GM .. i have lost one of my best friend In game...because he never play anymore one char for HEXA or some other clans ...

When i've stop to play (october 2009) i was in reaction clan, and not in HEXA, and MAD was not GM and if you know me ( like your screen) you will know about me i was more rich to now ... so please stop write sh1t about my clan or me.

Thanks, sry for english , and be patient the server will be up soon, stop to make sh1t topic in this forum.



ReavenDark have right ;) i think are u joking.. did you really made a screen for a shitting arcana robe+10 xD??? it cost like an A grade armor piece and no1 want it.. isnt rare see an arcana robe++++ with a very low price... whats the problem?
For the rest... i agree with you ;)
Title: Re: Once again, the GM situation on Dragon 15X
Post by: TonyS on January 06, 2011, 03:58:23 PM
Quote from: jilon on December 27, 2010, 03:51:00 PM
As per usual, the situation of the Dragon GM is unacceptable.

Our community is used to it and just "get over it" most of the time, it's a free server after all.

I would have liked to keep a complete list of the things that happened, but even if I did, you'd be bored after a few pages. I'd like if it was sarcasm, but it's not. There's daily issues. So let's name a few.
Each and every on these points in the list is true and accurate. So many people are aware of it, that it's not needed to justify them.

- GM killing people with Akamanah in Olympiad
- GM being the personal GK of certain clans and friendly cursed sword bearers
- GM forcing people to give away the cursed sword when they want some fun
- GM audio channel filled with L2W players asking tips on how to cheat with it
- GM banning people for imaginary reasons
- GM adding rules when it can give them some in game advantage (2+1 hero allowed magic rule last month, being able to see everyone's current class wasn't enough that month)
- GM take coins and items from scammers for their own gain, often "scammers" and "allegro sellers" did not do anything bad, but the GM can gain a lot of money (for example Psyck's case)
- GM resell those coins cheaper than Drake (0.6E/coin)
- GM banning anyone making good items or better than them claiming they must be some exploit (which no one hear about again, because there is no exploit)


How do they make it last? By terrorizing players.

Any "bad" word results in in game ban. Even if there's nothing about GM's staff, but the player is known to talk a bit too much, there will be a small ban "for no reason".
The player will complain, loudly, and often get a longer ban.

Deleting forum topics. Because they think no one have read them already, maybe. Especially the topics reporting their friends heavily botting and such things. Complaining about topic deletion results into the forum account being deleted, or in game ban for flaming GM work.

Since players can't tell Drake and GMs are into this together, you've a few choices:
- hope you'll keep a low profile and play with bad gear (you might always be banned for being at the wrong place someday)
- change server (we're talking about another network here, because other servers are dead on DN - which amusingly Dragon GMs keep reminding us. Do NM, INF, VLK admins know about this? They make fun of you guys once a month and how you're all dead servers.)

The most recent act was banning most of my fellow Serenity mates, because they made newly enchanted weapons and armors, with the new enchant rate which is a lot higher than before, rate which you can find here:

http://www.dragon-network.net/lore/enchantrates.html

Maybe GM's didn't read the loader. Or most likely, they were just jealous, GMs are supposed to be the richest players. Don't ask me why, since they don't farm, it's just how it should be! (or read again how they take the "scammers" money and keep it - and this has Drake's approval)

They don't need proof, only to say "it must be exploit". "You buy it from Rarus exploiter". We know where the money and equipment from these bans will go. (into events where the winner acquire 50dc - but the banned equipment  goes for 5000dc, do they think we're that dumb?)

A day later, wandering on the market, what can we see.. a GM clan with +10 armor
. In chat before going to sleep he told me that he made it yesterday.
(http://imgtheif.com/pictures/4c831b9e3cc4cb8c03c5dceca0756a55.png)

You'll never see him in the permanent ban list. He's not even a big farmer like we are. The conclusion? GM are as bad as ever on Dragon. Banning around people they don't like without reason, making money on the back of the server and Drake and using their advantages to tyrannize players and maximum profit until the server dies.

You should add: "GM talk into most famous scammer from Dragon x15 to scam selected characters +make big sh1t on valkyrie x9 because of personal war with GM Torn"

Dont flame Glasy? Ops, i did it again :/