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Title: Merge
Post by: Kufeliusz on January 25, 2011, 12:32:26 PM
Are you going to make smth to balance the difference in making exp, gathering stuff like sets, weapons, enchanting stuff or skill between players of Infinity and Nightmare? Infinity players had much harder task to do.
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: Vegas on January 25, 2011, 12:37:43 PM
there is not so big difference between server as i know, just adena drop and exp, rest is almost same imo
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: cerebelo on January 25, 2011, 12:44:35 PM
Quote from: Vegas on January 25, 2011, 12:37:43 PM
there is not so big difference between server as i know, just adena drop and exp, rest is almost same imo

in your opinion this "not big differenece " count that while i have 1 char lvl 85 on infy , nm players  could in same time exp 6 chars same lvl ?
but i am glad that we will be many :D
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: trooperXkoki on January 25, 2011, 12:54:05 PM
how long take you to make your char lvl 85 on inf?
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: dodqns on January 25, 2011, 12:57:44 PM
Quote from: cerebelo on January 25, 2011, 12:44:35 PM
in your opinion this "not big differenece " count that while i have 1 char lvl 85 on infy , nm players  could in same time exp 6 chars same lvl ?
but i am glad that we will be many :D
Nah. This "not big differenece " count that if u have one char 80 lvl and some guy from NM have one char  80 lvl, u've played 6 times more than him ^^ more.. hmmm... "personal expirience" for you ^^
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: Ayukens on January 25, 2011, 01:10:00 PM
12 hour playing on x30 = char lv 1 to lv 60+ if pick drops and adena and alone with 1 buff with pof ( adena done 30kk +-)

12 hour playing  on x5 = char lv 1 to 40+ if pick drops and adena and alone with buff with pof (adena done 10kk +-)

And no using pet for lvl up, cause then can be more fast then...
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: Weezer on January 25, 2011, 01:11:20 PM
Quote from: Kufeliusz on January 25, 2011, 12:32:26 PM
Are you going to make smth to balance the difference in making exp, gathering stuff like sets, weapons, enchanting stuff or skill between players of Infinity and Nightmare? Infinity players had much harder task to do.

Enchant rate for skills and items r the same in all servers, the main difference in NM and Infinity r XP/SP rate that is 30x against 5x, but as soon as merge happens this will be same, for sure won't be 30x and also won't be 5x, let's say 20x (also won't be 15x, so what's the matter about having 2 servers 15x?!?).

For all players on Infinity will be better, cause will be 4x faster to XP and all other things, but u must consider that the best thing of all is to have a server with more people.

More people means more fun, more enemies, more pvp, more sides at pvp/sieges. For PVP players from Infinity will be better cause they will have more enemies, for farmers they can farm more, for oly farmers they will have more people to beat in oly.

Imo there's no disadvantage on merge, this will bring more fun and even can bring more people, old people who left servers will come back to see how it comes with the merge.
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: cthon on January 25, 2011, 01:13:17 PM
Quote from: Kufeliusz on January 25, 2011, 12:32:26 PM
Are you going to make smth to balance the difference in making exp, gathering stuff like sets, weapons, enchanting stuff or skill between players of Infinity and Nightmare? Infinity players had much harder task to do.

ive checked your forum for example and the prices are kinda same, that should be the thing u should concern about not xp
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: Weezer on January 25, 2011, 01:13:42 PM
Quote from: Ayukens on January 25, 2011, 01:10:00 PM
12 hour playing on x30 = char lv 1 to lv 60+ if pick drops and adena and alone with 1 buff with pof ( adena done 30kk +-)

12 hour playing  on x5 = char lv 1 to 40+ if pick drops and adena and alone with buff with pof (adena done 10kk +-)

And no using pet for lvl up, cause then can be more fast then...

Using a wolf pet u can lvl up from 0 to 65 in less than 2 hours, killing on places like Alligator Island.
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: Teh noob on January 25, 2011, 01:20:34 PM
so make it x3 rate, and all will be equally unhappy.
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: dodqns on January 25, 2011, 01:22:17 PM
Quote from: Ayukens on January 25, 2011, 01:10:00 PM
12 hour playing on x30 = char lv 1 to lv 60+ if pick drops and adena and alone with 1 buff with pof ( adena done 30kk +-)

12 hour playing  on x5 = char lv 1 to 40+ if pick drops and adena and alone with buff with pof (adena done 10kk +-)

And no using pet for lvl up, cause then can be more fast then...
LOL! picking drop... alone... 1 buff... pof... too much details, but not your class? :D nice one!

Quote from: Weezer on January 25, 2011, 01:13:42 PM
Using a wolf pet u can lvl up from 0 to 65 in less than 2 hours, killing on places like Alligator Island.
same noob, even +place and pet ... but still not class :D:D:D
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: Ayukens on January 25, 2011, 01:34:06 PM
when i am telling 1 buff , i am telling all pp  or pp/sws  or se or se/bd buffs,  XD  ,  just each player is diferent some poors others richs XD... class? killer class no nerfed...ups...all nerfed XD but more fast that doing exp char suppor or dwarf :)
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: Kufeliusz on January 25, 2011, 01:37:20 PM
I do not want to argue if Infinity players had harder task then Nightmare players - because its obvious for me that they had (more exp/mob, more exp for skill enchanting etc) and because I simply do not care what you think :).

I just want GM answer my question. Yes - no. I am just curious. I do not intend to complain even he says "no".

Title: Re: Merge
Post by: Ayukens on January 25, 2011, 01:43:21 PM
doing check on general? RESET: clan hall, heroes, skill, castles, forstress... only keep item and sub class is like that mini wipe... and all starting since 0  it will be balance for ppl for no to say later "he was ready and me no" etc etc
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 25, 2011, 02:27:01 PM
Quote from: Kufeliusz on January 25, 2011, 12:32:26 PM
Are you going to make smth to balance the difference in making exp, gathering stuff like sets, weapons, enchanting stuff or skill between players of Infinity and Nightmare? Infinity players had much harder task to do.
Servers have different exp rate (amount) , thats the only difference everything rest is same.
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: dodqns on January 25, 2011, 02:34:45 PM
"Servers have different exp rate (amount)"
"current NM and INF (yes they were same);[(ex. drop/sp/exp...)]"

uh?
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: iMEXX on January 25, 2011, 03:36:25 PM
my char in infinity and in nightmare got same nicks but in different accounts whats gonna happen now? one char will be renamed>? deleteD?
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: Weezer on January 25, 2011, 03:38:24 PM
Quote from: iMEXX on January 25, 2011, 03:36:25 PM
my char in infinity and in nightmare got same nicks but in different accounts whats gonna happen now? one char will be renamed>? deleteD?

Announcements - http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,45546.180.html

Name collision will be handle with a script who checks for some parameters and will give the name to one who example have more time played,older char made,higher level , other guy who will have to change name (he will temporary get a name mixture of numbers and letters) will have to go to a web panel (specially made for this occasion) and change it to desired "FREE" name. With this way we will try balance as much as we can , so you who have planned lvl 1 bot chars - bad news.
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: Weezer on January 25, 2011, 03:40:40 PM
Quote from: dodqns on January 25, 2011, 02:34:45 PM
"Servers have different exp rate (amount)"
"current NM and INF (yes they were same);[(ex. drop/sp/exp...)]"
uh?

XP/SP rates r diferent. Adena drop too, but only adena drop.

Oh i forgot, when we kill some epic it drop 6x more epic jewels than Infinity.
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: dodqns on January 25, 2011, 04:32:00 PM
Quote from: Weezer on January 25, 2011, 03:40:40 PM
XP/SP rates r diferent. Adena drop too, but only adena drop.

Oh i forgot, when we kill some epic it drop 6x more epic jewels than Infinity.
oh... xp/sp/adena drop was the point in my post... ty that u told me...
or wait... maybe red words are the point? maybe its about how Track told two different things in two different posts?
oh, no, forget about it, u are right, sry...
p.s. 6x more epic jewels? really?
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: wildpussy on January 25, 2011, 04:36:19 PM
we r interested if chance of spoil (f.e. EWS and recs S in fog) and if drop rate of Attribute jewels/stones is the same
so 100% true or not ?
i was hoping for higher rate after merge :(
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: JoeDoe on January 28, 2011, 01:08:06 PM
Quote from: wildpussy on January 25, 2011, 04:36:19 PM
we r interested if chance of spoil (f.e. EWS and recs S in fog) and if drop rate of Attribute jewels/stones is the same
so 100% true or not ?
i was hoping for higher rate after merge :(

nm = more chance to spoil EWS.
It reason why EWS so cheep are on x30...
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: trooperXkoki on January 28, 2011, 01:12:35 PM
Quote from: JoeDoe on January 28, 2011, 01:08:06 PM
nm = more chance to spoil EWS.
It reason why EWS so cheep are on x30...
or more farmers (walkers) :D
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: seboulba on January 28, 2011, 01:19:28 PM
Quote from: JoeDoe on January 28, 2011, 01:08:06 PM
nm = more chance to spoil EWS.
It reason why EWS so cheep are on x30...

depend how u farm in HB :) 3-4h in HB with a tyr/spoiler(good one) bd/pp + sws/wc and u have arround  30 ews
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: ozyn on January 29, 2011, 10:02:49 AM
Quote from: TrackZero on January 25, 2011, 02:27:01 PM
Servers have different exp rate (amount) , thats the only difference everything rest is same.

well check RB jewels status, was time in C4 when vala spawns 3 times in week... (on infi)
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: Zuluman on January 29, 2011, 10:46:40 AM
I didn't read the whole post so perhaps somebody already replied witha comment along the same lines.

I think it is important to ask why people would have joined a x5 server in the first place. To me it is clear that people would have done so because they had an inclination towards farming and grinding for exp. If this is the case why would you then complain that others had it easier when joining another server. You had to chance to play a higher rate when you started out but decided that you would prefer a lower rate.

I guess what im really saying is STFU moaning and just get ready to fight ;)
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: seboulba on January 29, 2011, 11:49:46 AM
Quote from: Zuluman on January 29, 2011, 10:46:40 AM
I didn't read the whole post so perhaps somebody already replied witha comment along the same lines.

I think it is important to ask why people would have joined a x5 server in the first place. To me it is clear that people would have done so because they had an inclination towards farming and grinding for exp. If this is the case why would you then complain that others had it easier when joining another server. You had to chance to play a higher rate when you started out but decided that you would prefer a lower rate.

I guess what im really saying is STFU moaning and just get ready to fight ;)

u come back too ?
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: cerebelo on January 29, 2011, 07:24:33 PM
Quote from: Zuluman on January 29, 2011, 10:46:40 AM
I didn't read the whole post so perhaps somebody already replied witha comment along the same lines.

I think it is important to ask why people would have joined a x5 server in the first place. To me it is clear that people would have done so because they had an inclination towards farming and grinding for exp. If this is the case why would you then complain that others had it easier when joining another server. You had to chance to play a higher rate when you started out but decided that you would prefer a lower rate.

I guess what im really saying is STFU moaning and just get ready to fight ;)
u askyourself why ppl choose x5 when they could choose x15 or x30 or x200 ? the answer is that some ppl wanted to taste more of this game , and others allready did that and wanted to rush for advanced part of it .....

you talk sensless ...... this kind of game have a concept ..... u spend more time =u become stronger and  u have more advantage .
got me ?
and x5 = compress real time x5 while your play time is compressed x5x6 ..... so u got 5 extra chances to get your char better then mine....simple as i wrote

again i must say i am very happy with this merge but a guy need an extra explination of what is obvious ..... now it looks like infinity is fighting with knifes while nightmare are equiped with shotguns ... but u know what ? i am still glad that we can fight toghether same team or as oponent

"I guess what im really saying is STFU moaning and just get ready to fight ;) " <---------- kid detected
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: magnitogorsk on January 30, 2011, 06:32:11 AM
Sorry to intrrerupt all the people, but i just checked my account and it seems to me the merge was about NIGHTMARE/VALKYRIA ,not NIGHTMARE/INFINITY.All the chars i had on valkyria are on nightmare now, so some1 enlighten me please??
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: tomogara on January 30, 2011, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: magnitogorsk on January 30, 2011, 06:32:11 AM
Sorry to intrrerupt all the people, but i just checked my account and it seems to me the merge was about NIGHTMARE/VALKYRIA ,not NIGHTMARE/INFINITY.All the chars i had on valkyria are on nightmare now, so some1 enlighten me please??

Maybe use main loader and do fullcheck as it says?
Title: Re: Merge
Post by: magnitogorsk on January 30, 2011, 01:09:14 PM
Quote from: tomogara on January 30, 2011, 11:31:03 AM
Maybe use main loader and do fullcheck as it says?

Yea,works  ;)