Wazzap, well like i see, Gm is right when he say that donators may keep the server alive, but its a crap when they say
"Insulting someone for being a DONATOR is NOT allowed. Donators keep the server alive. Any kind of insults to them are NOT allowed, and we will take this rule seriously." what with that? i know server is alive because donators, but why u give so damn power to them? u offer more coins if they donate more, we whent from 5 x to 30x server ( 30x has more sh1t then 5x, cuz its 6 times easier), now u cant pk a guy, cuz if he is donator they will say that is a insult to them.
Its ok to donate but not to give damn power to them, i was playin on infi, and never saw an icarus+10 or more, when server got fussioned, i saw more then 20 guys with icarus+8 or +++++, (JEDI Server age????) lol you want to bring new ppl when old players (donators mostly) have that huge power? they can kill 3 or 4 guys without problem, if you think or want to have a balanced server, then stop giving OE weaponds to guys that donate you, or at least dont give S80 weaponds, let them fight for their things, its not cool to see a new guy that donates 200e. and u give him an Icarus+8, he is new, never had pvp in server and has better shit then a guy that has been playing for more then a year, if you think that that is cool, ok, kill server like an old gm killed Infinite 3 years ago with his great donations :D
Quote from: Phonex on February 03, 2011, 01:19:33 AM
Wazzap, well like i see, Gm is right when he say that donators may keep the server alive, but its a crap when they say
"Insulting someone for being a DONATOR is NOT allowed. Donators keep the server alive. Any kind of insults to them are NOT allowed, and we will take this rule seriously." what with that? i know server is alive because donators, but why u give so damn power to them? u offer more coins if they donate more, we whent from 5 x to 30x server ( 30x has more sh1t then 5x, cuz its 6 times easier), now u cant pk a guy, cuz if he is donator they will say that is a insult to them.
Its ok to donate but not to give damn power to them, i was playin on infi, and never saw an icarus+10 or more, when server got fussioned, i saw more then 20 guys with icarus+8 or +++++, (JEDI Server age????) lol you want to bring new ppl when old players (donators mostly) have that huge power? they can kill 3 or 4 guys without problem, if you think or want to have a balanced server, then stop giving OE weaponds to guys that donate you, or at least dont give S80 weaponds, let them fight for their things, its not cool to see a new guy that donates 200e. and u give him an Icarus+8, he is new, never had pvp in server and has better shit then a guy that has been playing for more then a year, if you think that that is cool, ok, kill server like an old gm killed Infinite 3 years ago with his great donations :D
About the insult for donators i typical l2 pvt server rules, people who ever tryed to make 1 serious network will understand.
However i am more concern about 2nd part and "JEDI" server, OVER 20 +8 weapons..... Question: Did you ever tried to make +8 S weapon in your life?
Infinity-Nightmare-Dragon-..... We all had
SAME enchant rate since born of servers, why NM people tried more then Infinity players or why Dragon players tried more then NM+INF ones, is a question for fortunetellers . NCSOFT made weapon enchants for a reason same goes for the skills , not to mention that by ncsoft any average player should be able to make from 0-15 np and up to +25 and skills up to 30.
Quote from: Phonex on February 03, 2011, 01:19:33 AM
Wazzap, well like i see, Gm is right when he say that donators may keep the server alive, but its a crap when they say
"Insulting someone for being a DONATOR is NOT allowed. Donators keep the server alive. Any kind of insults to them are NOT allowed, and we will take this rule seriously." what with that? i know server is alive because donators, but why u give so damn power to them? u offer more coins if they donate more, we whent from 5 x to 30x server ( 30x has more sh1t then 5x, cuz its 6 times easier), now u cant pk a guy, cuz if he is donator they will say that is a insult to them.
Its ok to donate but not to give damn power to them, i was playin on infi, and never saw an icarus+10 or more, when server got fussioned, i saw more then 20 guys with icarus+8 or +++++, (JEDI Server age????) lol you want to bring new ppl when old players (donators mostly) have that huge power? they can kill 3 or 4 guys without problem, if you think or want to have a balanced server, then stop giving OE weaponds to guys that donate you, or at least dont give S80 weaponds, let them fight for their things, its not cool to see a new guy that donates 200e. and u give him an Icarus+8, he is new, never had pvp in server and has better shit then a guy that has been playing for more then a year, if you think that that is cool, ok, kill server like an old gm killed Infinite 3 years ago with his great donations :D
hahahah xD
90% ower enchanter weap on nm are maked by ppl lol, if you don't have ballz to enchant your weap don't cry abaut ppl who made it, and respect them, your topic is just funny, like always weak ppl cry abaut o/e because they don't have ballz to make the same !
np: viciouss(makaka) make ic spirit +15 and he use ews,s not blessed ews,s and now tell me: do you have ballz to make the same?
Quote from: chlipus on February 03, 2011, 03:33:31 AM
hahahah xD
90% ower enchanter weap on nm are maked by ppl lol, if you don't have ballz to enchant your weap don't cry abaut ppl who made it, and respect them, your topic is just funny, like always weak ppl cry abaut o/e because they don't have ballz to make the same !
np: viciouss(makaka) make ic spirit +15 and he use ews,s not blessed ews,s and now tell me: do you have ballz to make the same?
+1 . . .
I tried several times to make OE AM's @ C4...mby thats why i'm poor ;D
is not about ballz or not ballz, its about infi was 5x and NM 30x , if u know a littl mat, u shall know that you have 6 times more chane to get EWS then a server of 5x, so its not balaced to put ppl from 1 low rate server to a top rate one, and yeah , i have a Crusher+8, made it with normal EWS too, but if u have some info, u will know that GM has OE weaponds for Coins :D, at least that is what some pplz told me, player with icas +13 told me , that pm gm at forum, tell him what i need and pay for it, lol thats a Sh!t, but well :D like other players said:
WELCOME TO JEDI AGE SERVER :P ::)
Quote from: Phonex on February 03, 2011, 04:18:30 AM
is not about ballz or not ballz, its about infi was 5x and NM 30x , if u know a littl mat, u shall know that you have 6 times more chane to get EWS then a server of 5x, so its not balaced to put ppl from 1 low rate server to a top rate one, and yeah , i have a Crusher+8, made it with normal EWS too, but if u have some info, u will know that GM has OE weaponds for Coins :D, at least that is what some pplz told me, player with icas +13 told me , that pm gm at forum, tell him what i need and pay for it, lol thats a Sh!t, but well :D like other players said:
WELCOME TO JEDI AGE SERVER :P ::)
i think thats in dragon server (ic+f+25 :O sets +10 and skills +30)
we dont have that things on NM... yet ¿??
Quote from: TrackZero on February 03, 2011, 01:31:30 AM
About the insult for donators i typical l2 pvt server rules, people who ever tryed to make 1 serious network will understand.
However i am more concern about 2nd part and "JEDI" server, OVER 20 +8 weapons..... Question: Did you ever tried to make +8 S weapon in your life?
Infinity-Nightmare-Dragon-..... We all had SAME enchant rate since born of servers, why NM people tried more then Infinity players or why Dragon players tried more then NM+INF ones, is a question for fortunetellers . NCSOFT made weapon enchants for a reason same goes for the skills , not to mention that by ncsoft any average player should be able to make from 0-15 np and up to +25 and skills up to 30.
Just try that on Dragon ;D You will be banned faster then you have got that skills xD
i broke icarus spitter+focus+7 whit ews for try +8 xD isa a game u need only luck :D
Quote from: TrackZero on February 03, 2011, 01:31:30 AM
About the insult for donators i typical l2 pvt server rules, people who ever tryed to make 1 serious network will understand.
However i am more concern about 2nd part and "JEDI" server, OVER 20 +8 weapons..... Question: Did you ever tried to make +8 S weapon in your life?
Infinity-Nightmare-Dragon-..... We all had SAME enchant rate since born of servers, why NM people tried more then Infinity players or why Dragon players tried more then NM+INF ones, is a question for fortunetellers . NCSOFT made weapon enchants for a reason same goes for the skills , not to mention that by ncsoft any average player should be able to make from 0-15 np and up to +25 and skills up to 30.
its very easy why nm ppl have more oe weapon/armor:
more rate of get ews/adamantine/mats for craft weapon and try overenchant = more chance to have a OE weapon = more power on server
about the skill OE: more exp = more chance to do an oe skill i'm a classical example of what happen on infinity i'm 85 from 1 year or more but still 12% i dont have problem of bog for sure i'm hero from 2 years but i have still skill just +10, ok i'm not a exp farmer but for sure someoen in my same position in NM server could enchant more skill..
i just think that infi ppl get a bit (not somuch) disadvantage in comparison of nm player just look the OE icarus weapon u had in NM and what we had on infinity the max mage weapon was just an ica hall +12 and a ica spirit+8 yesterday i saw a ica hall +15 and a dyna phantom +12 and better we dont talk about dagger and bows
if u compared database and think taht this is balance well i have a different opinion of balance maybe its just a mine sensation, but as i heard many ppl of ex infinity feel this disadvantage
Quote from: chlipus on February 03, 2011, 03:33:31 AM
hahahah xD
90% ower enchanter weap on nm are maked by ppl lol, if you don't have ballz to enchant your weap don't cry abaut ppl who made it, and respect them, your topic is just funny, like always weak ppl cry abaut o/e because they don't have ballz to make the same !
np: viciouss(makaka) make ic spirit +15 and he use ews,s not blessed ews,s and now tell me: do you have ballz to make the same?
Many ppl have balls to do it, but not many are so stupid :)
Quote from: Argriev on February 03, 2011, 09:01:40 AM
its very easy why nm ppl have more oe weapon/armor:
more rate of get ews/adamantine/mats for craft weapon and try overenchant = more chance to have a OE weapon = more power on server
about the skill OE: more exp = more chance to do an oe skill i'm a classical example of what happen on infinity i'm 85 from 1 year or more but still 12% i dont have problem of bog for sure i'm hero from 2 years but i have still skill just +10, ok i'm not a exp farmer but for sure someoen in my same position in NM server could enchant more skill..
i just think that infi ppl get a bit (not somuch) disadvantage in comparison of nm player just look the OE icarus weapon u had in NM and what we had on infinity the max mage weapon was just an ica hall +12 and a ica spirit+8 yesterday i saw a ica hall +15 and a dyna phantom +12 and better we dont talk about dagger and bows
if u compared database and think taht this is balance well i have a different opinion of balance maybe its just a mine sensation, but as i heard many ppl of ex infinity feel this disadvantage
stop crying now you have rate 20x, so go and farm ews's on hb lol.
abaut o/e weapons from gm, don't cry abaut it, if you want this wep make it or buy for euro, or maby you want that weap for free? if yes i wish you gl and hf
and don't forget thanks to who you still play here, who keep this server alive, even if gm seling o/e weap don't cry because it is only some % of all o/e weapons on this server, and you can make it if you have ballz, here is not like others servers (you can't make o/e weap on the same enchant jak weap from donation ) remember it !
if you know how to play - you'll easy kill a man with ic++ with dyna+3 even
Lineage is not just about items - it's also about skills and team play ;)
in infinity 1 months ago 1 guy meake ica bow +16 and broke it when wana meake +17 so ths is balls
Quote from: elFuego on February 03, 2011, 11:23:09 AM
in infinity 1 months ago 1 guy meake ica bow +16 and broke it when wana meake +17 so ths is balls
damn sad for him :( :( :( Nm got one dyna knife+cd+17 :D :-*
Quote from: chlipus on February 03, 2011, 10:07:01 AM
stop crying now you have rate 20x, so go and farm ews's on hb lol.
abaut o/e weapons from gm, don't cry abaut it, if you want this wep make it or buy for euro, or maby you want that weap for free? if yes i wish you gl and hf
and don't forget thanks to who you still play here, who keep this server alive, even if gm seling o/e weap don't cry because it is only some % of all o/e weapons on this server, and you can make it if you have ballz, here is not like others servers (you can't make o/e weap on the same enchant jak weap from donation ) remember it !
man before shoot sentence read well and active brain
i just said that the 2 server was not so balance as gm said and ppl of infinity have a bit disadvantage in comaparison
this dont mean that this gap will not be close, but its clear that there is
i'm not talking about donator if u understand well
Donate! make fun, keep server alive! :) and stop whine ::)
everyone can work on some job instead of farming in l2...few month and u are abble to donate for best stuff on server)))
Man you may be right about donations, donations keep server alive, but somethimes server owner wants more and more and gets a little bit ambitious and start selling gears and weaponds OE or with edited stats, i can talk about it cuz i have a dnet set, and ok tis pretty nice to be honest, but ppl that have more then 4 years in server like me, rember old pvps TLA vs SF, or other big allies, we were using A grade sets or B grade sets, you can see that in youtube :D, mass pvp 150 vs 150 or more ppl, and if u see a guy with S grade, that was a miracle, cuz it was damn hard to get S grade, server was balanced, but then Drake (when he was owner) get more ambitious and made mutants, ppl start doing mutants, server when kind of crazy, and then ppl started demanding balance, so he made Dnet sets ("to kill mutants"), and server whent kind of more crazy, but what killed us at the end was 3 year ago at chrismas, when he put 3 ews for 1 coin at npc, coins where at 300kk and then ppl start buying like 100 or more coins to get alot of ews, and sell them, server when JEDI and all hard work become shit, and more then 500 players stop playing, other ones start farming and using walker to farm stuff.
Its ok to be donator, what is not ok is to give so much power (easily) to donators, give him just weapond, let them work for stuff, now like the said, dwarfs now have no use more than craft S80.
I think solution to all this will be what Drake one day did, Whipe all the crap out :D (ofcourse, he said it was a mistake when he did that cuz server broke down and he dindt have a back up) xD hehehe
But well anyway :D server is more fun cuz now more ppl :D missed that old pvps at varkas, or other places hehehe,
BTW. GM ketra orcs dont drop orc fingers anymore, did they get poor? xD ::)
Well, I wont say donate is a bad thing, cuz even I donated a little bit (very very very little... just for some forgotten scrolls) and it really help server to stay alive.
But one thing I have in mind, specially because I played on 15x for 3,5 years, is that on the second donator coins became tradeable, server economy was doomed and team up for spoil/craft became pointless.
Ppl became greedy and start farm alone so they could get more coins and buy better items. In the past we made party and went down to LOA/ FOG, spent hours trying to get B (and laterA/S) recipes and mats.
Now you see bots farming mats, then make an item and sell for... coins, cuz everything "good" worth only coins.
Anyway, since things changed, teamplay today is based on pvps and kill bosses. Besides that, its all about boting.
Quote from: 666VeNoM on February 03, 2011, 07:00:21 PM
Now you see bots farming mats, then make an item and sell for... coins, cuz everything "good" worth only coins.
Anyway, since things changed, teamplay today is based on pvps and kill bosses. Besides that, its all about boting.
You are right :D and you forgot to say " you can find bots farming equiped with S grade armors and weaponds " :D heheheeh