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Title: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: fenrris on March 07, 2011, 07:03:44 PM
Ok guys here's the issue.

Since merge i noticed my SH making crappy dmg on enemies (while having 10-15k m attack and wind attribute 457-487). First i though that wind resist + is a common thing and that’s probably the reason. lately thou i maid few attempts on nicely buffed chars with wind resist max 150(obviously additional attribute dmg should be applied).

and now..

on necro/pp (2,4k m def wind resist 180) dmg 450 (with 15k m attack). On th/pal(no ud turned on wind resist 94 m def 2,1k) ~400 per hit with same m attack.

Obviously im lost here ::)

So any tips or useful info about wind resist popularity(usual level on full buff that you guys have) or reason for such lo dmg on all chars(yes all not only those two examples)?  Could use some insight from other SH as well.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: slimx on March 07, 2011, 07:06:37 PM
Quote from: fenrris on March 07, 2011, 07:03:44 PM
(while having 10-15k m attack and wind attribute 457-487).

my guess is that u use seed of wind or smth and from what i heared that skill facks ur dmg a lot in pvp same like in sps and sorcs
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: DaVinci on March 07, 2011, 07:17:48 PM
nick ?
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: eagleye on March 07, 2011, 07:52:40 PM
on my sh/bd i have around 11k matak - and i don't make so low dmg, specially not on ppl with so low attr. resist. only some ppl with rly good resist i hit for lower than 600 ? half of ppl what i meet on pvp i hit 800-1.5k so dunno why you hit so low  ;)
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: fenrris on March 07, 2011, 08:02:24 PM
Quote from: slimx on March 07, 2011, 07:06:37 PM
my guess is that u use seed of wind or smth and from what i heared that skill facks ur dmg a lot in pvp same like in sps and sorcs

ok thats usefull! so seed of wind may be the case..thou even without it , so with 457 base i get similar dmg (around 2k on non DNEt users thou).
Quote from: DaVinci on March 07, 2011, 07:17:48 PM
nick ?

Arachnofobia

Ok, looking forward for other coments guys

PS: dont know if thats relevant but i gave all retail books in p def and nothing in m atack(exept spirit). I was sure that 10-15k m atack is enough(it was just ok on Infi).
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: JoeDoe on March 07, 2011, 08:20:59 PM
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with just lvl 6 fire atribute in weapon  ;D ;D
BTW: i put that to bug section but kesy aka trackzero del it:P
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: DaVinci on March 07, 2011, 08:35:43 PM
When did the certificate skills became available ? I know many people use anti magic.
@sethan: this is how you made a "name" on server ?
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: fenrris on March 07, 2011, 08:52:41 PM
Quote from: DaVinci on March 07, 2011, 08:35:43 PM
When did the certificate skills became available ? I know many people use anti magic.

Even so Vinci it's kind lo dmg(damn lo). I have sh/sk so I’m aware of typical dmg while on sof/anti magic/ prot of rune or other stuff. I'm sure that chars I’ve hit were without any form of ud. Just full buff but so was I.

Best situation was when i got kamael buff + wizard sacrifice(from final wizard transformation) 22k m attack and I’ve hit dagger/warlord for 700/700/4k crit. Lately I’m mostly using LS/Silence during bigger pvp to be useful.

Thanks for reply btw  :)
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: wildpussy on March 07, 2011, 10:43:42 PM
anti magic is passive cert from nukers
any noob can walk around with 3k mdef or more
+resists and i doupt you landing much of surrenders and vortexes
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: ylim on March 07, 2011, 11:07:46 PM
Quote from: wildpussy on March 07, 2011, 10:43:42 PM
anti magic is passive cert from nukers
any noob can walk around with 3k mdef or more
+resists and i doupt you landing much of surrenders and vortexes

u forget to add that this is dn where u got any debuff even with 7k mdef :P
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: PolSilv3r on March 07, 2011, 11:16:34 PM
Quote from: JoeDoe on March 07, 2011, 08:20:59 PM
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with just lvl 6 fire atribute in weapon  ;D ;D
BTW: i put that to bug section but kesy aka trackzero del it:P

Why did you cancel your target? Do you hide something? ;D
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: Zaled on March 07, 2011, 11:19:19 PM
silver don't break me down xD if you died, your target canceled XD
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: GoldLion on March 07, 2011, 11:24:41 PM
not very big dmg :)
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: fenrris on March 08, 2011, 02:56:34 PM
Quote from: k0rina on March 07, 2011, 11:48:18 PM
u got nice items  for mage? ok then


make an sps/es use holy in weapon ench ur light vortex +holy +solar flare   and  buy fs pet  cele etc and play like that and u will see big dmg

Im not fancy for sps, I'm definitly SH user. I'm aware that theres always some other char that is curently doing much dmg/pwn but I dont like to switch after each server change:)
Quote from: wildpussy on March 07, 2011, 10:43:42 PM
anti magic is passive cert from nukers
any noob can walk around with 3k mdef or more
+resists and i doupt you landing much of surrenders and vortexes

ok so 3k m def..yet its not a big deal with 15k m atack at least not for 400 dmg^^

but maybe you guys are aware how much is wind resist popular among NM players?
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: taiji on March 08, 2011, 08:09:35 PM
Mage on this server is weak noobs ...
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: fenrris on March 08, 2011, 09:58:23 PM
Quote from: taiji on March 08, 2011, 08:09:35 PM
Mage on this server is weak noobs ...

charming..


any usefull coments guys? :)
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: fenrris on March 10, 2011, 07:03:08 PM
Up
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: 666VeNoM on March 10, 2011, 07:45:02 PM
Quote from: taiji on March 08, 2011, 08:09:35 PM
Mage on this server is weak noobs ...
Half true.

Anyway, dont know why you hit so low. I get 5k m.atk and hit almost the same u hit, plus every1 has high dark defense.

I dont bother anymore in give high damage. I became more a support and debuffer char. Ofc I hit, but my main goal is buff, debuff and res.
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: fenrris on March 10, 2011, 10:48:55 PM
Quote from: 666VeNoM on March 10, 2011, 07:45:02 PM
Half true.

Anyway, dont know why you hit so low. I get 5k m.atk and hit almost the same u hit, plus every1 has high dark defense.

I dont bother anymore in give high damage. I became more a support and debuffer char. Ofc I hit, but my main goal is buff, debuff and res.

doing same  ::)

question remains is wind resist popular defense? Only resonable explanation that i have is high wind resist + wind element resist buffs
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: Herza on March 11, 2011, 02:52:14 AM
Archers are using wind attribute on bows, thats why many people have wind resists in their armors (more than 150 in total), that might be a reason as well.
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: fenrris on March 11, 2011, 10:36:48 AM
Quote from: Herza on March 11, 2011, 02:52:14 AM
Archers are using wind attribute on bows, thats why many people have wind resists in their armors (more than 150 in total), that might be a reason as well.

Thank you mate. That's what i was afraid of. On Infi earth was usual archer attribute. Time to re-think strategi then^^
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: Vegas on March 11, 2011, 05:08:20 PM
Quote from: fenrris on March 11, 2011, 10:36:48 AM
Thank you mate. That's what i was afraid of. On Infi earth was usual archer attribute. Time to re-think strategi then^^
mby u make low damage, coz u forget to turn bsss on? ;D
j/k

imo: every resist attribute is usefull now, coz archers are using earth/wind/holy/fire, daggers - wind/earth/fire, mages use all attr, and u know it ;)
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: cerebelo on March 11, 2011, 07:06:33 PM
bro don't ask why u make low dmg..... it's not the attr def ... it's the oe equipment ... yesterday one friend of mine tryed to pvp 1 vs 1 and he was really dissapointed when his oponent killed him in 3 hits full buffed and after that he showed his icarus+15 and his det +8 set ... and there are many like this after merge .... no need to speack about +++++ skill enchant and ++++ shirts ++++ jewels


i know that donations are important for server but those donations made game unplayable for many of us

mages that haven't oe equipment can only play as debuffers .... that's the sad story , but it's true
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: slimx on March 11, 2011, 07:48:26 PM
Quote from: cerebelo on March 11, 2011, 07:06:33 PM
bro don't ask why u make low dmg..... it's not the attr def ... it's the oe equipment ... yesterday one friend of mine tryed to pvp 1 vs 1 and he was really dissapointed when his oponent killed him in 3 hits full buffed and after that he showed his icarus+15 and his det +8 set ... and there are many like this after merge .... no need to speack about +++++ skill enchant and ++++ shirts ++++ jewels


i know that donations are important for server but those donations made game unplayable for many of us

mages that haven't oe equipment can only play as debuffers .... that's the sad story , but it's true

learn to buff  ;D
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: 666VeNoM on March 11, 2011, 08:06:04 PM
Quote from: cerebelo on March 11, 2011, 07:06:33 PM
bro don't ask why u make low dmg..... it's not the attr def ... it's the oe equipment ... yesterday one friend of mine tryed to pvp 1 vs 1 and he was really dissapointed when his oponent killed him in 3 hits full buffed and after that he showed his icarus+15 and his det +8 set ... and there are many like this after merge .... no need to speack about +++++ skill enchant and ++++ shirts ++++ jewels


i know that donations are important for server but those donations made game unplayable for many of us

mages that haven't oe equipment can only play as debuffers .... that's the sad story , but it's true


Funny that when I fight against ppl with +++ weapons and sets and Im full buff the damage aint that high. And I use dyn robe set not full att, use dyn phantom+4 and I have crap jewels.

Something is wrong here...

Ofc some archers give a huge damage on criticals (1.5k, 2k), but seriously, I dont know wtf is wrong with your buffs, sets, weapon w/e.
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: rocktr on March 12, 2011, 03:12:51 PM
Quote from: fenrris on March 07, 2011, 08:52:41 PM
Even so Vinci it's kind lo dmg(damn lo). I have sh/sk so I’m aware of typical dmg while on sof/anti magic/ prot of rune or other stuff. I'm sure that chars I’ve hit were without any form of ud. Just full buff but so was I.

Best situation was when i got kamael buff + wizard sacrifice(from final wizard transformation) 22k m attack and I’ve hit dagger/warlord for 700/700/4k crit. Lately I’m mostly using LS/Silence during bigger pvp to be useful.

Thanks for reply btw  :)
dagger/wl ? lol he havent any passive m.def maybe bsss off?
Title: Re: Wind resist/dmg question
Post by: fenrris on March 12, 2011, 03:20:58 PM
Quote from: rocktr on March 12, 2011, 03:12:51 PM
dagger/wl ? lol he havent any passive m.def maybe bsss off?

Nope there were on :) and i know that this clas have no passive m def..thats why it was on of "WTF!?" kind of pvp  ::)