hello...
i have a question about new coming sets...since they are custom made sets and many ppl are using their retails since they can be subed as main class VESPER will be available from lvl 84 ..???
Or it will be changed to lvl 80 cuz many ppl play retail will be lvl 80...i hope it will be used with lvl 80 chars...
tnx for answer...
Vesper are 84.. but good question... what about ppl whos play on mutants?
Quote from: sirSethan on June 06, 2011, 07:23:05 AM
Vesper are 84.. but good question... what about ppl whos play on mutants?
reroll :P
W4lker in gracia
2 minute silent on forum for his bugged sub :D
he got enough chars to play, trust me.
Quote from: sirSethan on June 06, 2011, 09:57:14 AM
W4lker in gracia
2 minute silent on forum for his bugged sub :D
no doubt u r totaly tard... like he is the only 1 with lvl 85 mutant... why so much hate seems he rly hurt u :-*
anyway mr. wellinformed asshole he even didnt logged like 2month ago or more 8)
ps +1 for chrzyo he have some more char to play if he want
Cut the crap guys.
This question is quite importand. Any ideas from Gms?
Quote from: ylim on June 06, 2011, 10:49:34 AM
no doubt u r totaly tard... like he is the only 1 with lvl 85 mutant... why so much hate seems he rly hurt u :-*
anyway mr. wellinformed asshole he even didnt logged like 2month ago or more 8)
ps +1 for chrzyo he have some more char to play if he want
Correction: he has enough char to kick Sethans ass. (btw, it is his real problem with walker :) )
Since we have dnet sets based on dynasty and it can be used on lvl 76 (dynasty lvl 80), I guess they can do something custom based on vesper to be used on lvl 80.
Despite I dislike DNet sets, I think we will have a vesper dnet set.
Quote from: 666VeNoM on June 06, 2011, 01:47:05 PM
Since we have dnet sets based on dynasty and it can be used on lvl 76 (dynasty lvl 80), I guess they can do something custom based on vesper to be used on lvl 80.
Despite I dislike DNet sets, I think we will have a vesper dnet set.
Dnet Vesper set is correct :p
DNEt is 76 (eg. Dynasty 80) so Vesper will be edited too :)
as we saw from awe screens its s84
Vesper is 84, and it should stay as 84. In gracia official subclasses can be lvled to 80. Same here.
Retails (mutants) cant use certification skills, cant lvl to 85 and learn 80+ skills... cant use Vesper, simple.
Maybe make Vesper D grade, beacuse ppl under 40 want use it :D QQ
Quote from: Kotlet on June 06, 2011, 04:23:48 PM
Vesper is 84, and it should stay as 84. In gracia official subclasses can be lvled to 80. Same here.
Retails (mutants) cant use certification skills, cant lvl to 85 and learn 80+ skills... cant use Vesper, simple.
Maybe make Vesper D grade, beacuse ppl under 40 want use it :D QQ
ye but on official they dont ve dnet and not dnet vesper sets xD plus they cant sub retails . anyway waiting for any gm to answer :P
Quote from: Kotlet on June 06, 2011, 04:23:48 PM
Vesper is 84, and it should stay as 84. In gracia official subclasses can be lvled to 80. Same here.
Retails (mutants) cant use certification skills, cant lvl to 85 and learn 80+ skills... cant use Vesper, simple.
Maybe make Vesper D grade, beacuse ppl under 40 want use it :D QQ
we have some mutants level 85( don't take it personla guys). so some of ppl already worked this one up :) It's not like i'm in favor of 85 lev mutants(it will be all mutants thanks to that) but level 80 vespers seems to be fair idea. Duno if possible thou.
Take care
Quote from: ylim on June 06, 2011, 03:59:37 PM
as we saw from awe screens its s84
same source for DNET :D
http://fotoifolder.ru/view_foto/yvi8gi5qq-kw/
Quote from: flamingAwe on June 06, 2011, 05:54:44 PM
same source for DNET :D
http://fotoifolder.ru/view_foto/yvi8gi5qq-kw/
ok so can be anything :D
It will be no grade ! :D
Its not about only mutants. I have pr/bd 85 and on retails i have support classes, he/sws and he/wk they are 80 ofc. And having combos like I have will be useless couse you will have to get 2 sets. 1 (vesper) set for main and other (dnet) for retail classes... We dont have so much active mutants 80 lvl. But some ppl are using subbed retails to support their party..
Quote from: Locus on June 06, 2011, 11:12:21 PM
Its not about only mutants. I have pr/bd 85 and on retails i have support classes, he/sws and he/wk they are 80 ofc. And having combos like I have will be useless couse you will have to get 2 sets. 1 (vesper) set for main and other (dnet) for retail classes... We dont have so much active mutants 80 lvl. But some ppl are using subbed retails to support their party..
Same for my retails of wc/bp and others...
u have 2 solutions there... make all mutants lvl 85 or make vesper S80 or S (like dnet).
Lvl 80 char is weak against all and now if u cant use proper set will be hard to play it...
Quote from: flamingAwe on June 06, 2011, 05:54:44 PM
same source for DNET :D
http://fotoifolder.ru/view_foto/yvi8gi5qq-kw/
seems we all got the same screen :D
Guys with all respect, mutant is mutant, we shouldn't support them so much , dont get me wrong i play a lot on mutant retail and its cool, but this (oh god i hate this word so much xD ) crys are shame on you, play on main :D
p.s well if dnet get 4 lvl down, dnet versper for sure will s80 so all the more this topic is rather usless :)
Quote from: 0l3j on June 07, 2011, 04:36:06 PM
Guys with all respect, mutant is mutant, we shouldn't support them so much , dont get me wrong i play a lot on mutant retail and its cool, but this (oh god i hate this word so much xD ) crys are shame on you, play on main :D
p.s well if dnet get 4 lvl down, dnet versper for sure will s80 so all the more this topic is rather usless :)
the funny thing in all of this is ppls that wont ever ve vesper sets ve a lot to say about them since what lvl they should be :P
no offence but in my opinion since we can sub retails it should be since 80 lvl cuz i doubt ppls that r suporting party's like duno wc/bp will use 2 sets
Quote from: jygh on June 07, 2011, 08:26:05 PM
the funny thing in all of this is ppls that wont ever ve vesper sets ve a lot to say about them since what lvl they should be :P
no offence but in my opinion since we can sub retails it should be since 80 lvl cuz i doubt ppls that r suporting party's like duno wc/bp will use 2 sets
DN isn't a cheap game to play ::)
Quote from: jygh on June 07, 2011, 08:26:05 PM
the funny thing in all of this is ppls that wont ever ve vesper sets ve a lot to say about them since what lvl they should be :P
no offence but in my opinion since we can sub retails it should be since 80 lvl cuz i doubt ppls that r suporting party's like duno wc/bp will use 2 sets
Yes, yes you cover your ass coz you play on mutant, poor you. So ppl would start play on main, without mutant, i'm ok with that perfectly.
There are a lot of fighting mutants (like you), not the one like wc/bp who can just support pt with little means to fight back, so save shjts.
And dont say what ppl can afford and what not, save it for yourself :)
Also as i said, as dnet got "downgrade" to s grade, so dnet vesper surely wil get one to s80.
edit :
jin i'm not feel offended in any way no worrie :P, just mutants are mutants, and you can make some cool supports , like wc/sws wc/bd pr wc/bp , but still i think ppl should play more on their mains, and dnet vesper as s84 would make some of them to do it.
Oh well not like anyone care bout my opinion just said my thougths on it
Edi2 :
but yes, I'm fokcing poor xD
Quote from: 0l3j on June 07, 2011, 08:54:03 PM
Yes, yes you cover your ass coz you play on mutant, poor you. So ppl would start play on main, without mutant, i'm ok with that perfectly.
There are a lot of fighting mutants (like you), not the one like wc/bp who can just support pt with little means to fight back, so save shjts.
And dont say what ppl can afford and what not, save it for yourself :)
Also as i said, as dnet got "downgrade" to s grade, so dnet vesper surely wil get one to s80.
my post was not rly to u but about all and im sry iff u got offended :P and i ve many chars to play on em.. was about many ppls that play suport chars on retails mostly .
anyway hope any gm can answer finaly:P
when players here will learn to play with what they have, this server will be become much better
hope admins will get the idea and won't change working stuff,whatever it works, balance should be created by players choices, not by items/skills changes
i saw some set called "dnet"vesper..... it was s84 :) so go back to a normal char and stop to QQ
Price of it ??
What he give ??
some1 know that ::)
Quote from: Evolution on June 08, 2011, 10:28:48 AM
Price of it ??
What he give ??
some1 know that ::)
http://fotoifolder.ru/view_foto/ej-vs29brt11/ -ROBE
http://fotoifolder.ru/view_foto/hnl4ijskn3vt/ -LIGHT
http://fotoifolder.ru/view_foto/lyv93rzzufh1/ -HEAVY
- dmg received @ pvp / - crit power and rate from opponent .... robe (LOL¹)
- dmg received @ pvp / Lose Target Effect... Light (LOL²)
- dmg received @ pvp / - attack spd from opponent.... Hvy (LOL³)
Mastercard will start to work soon as i see.
Have fun guys...
they are a very strong compared to normal vesper which is already good vs dynasty sets .. the mage set at least, those bonuses are WTF.
add to that the fact that normal vesper will be close to impossible to get ...
just to know , why so many bonus for the robe lol ??? incase that mage are already going to get alot of new skills like mage will and other OP skill and u add int men wit ? lol i hope u gonna correct the DESTRO like in offi who can hit like 1.5kkk on EPIC :) and not nerf DAGGER coz they are supposed to pown almost all .....
Well, Im against DNET sets. But since we dont play on official, we have to deal with that.
Personally, I think this game would be much more fun if dnet didint exist. These sets that only increase stats are a joke. I know some ppl that dont like it and quitted because of that (and other things). II bet you all know ppl that quitted for similar reasons.
im wrong or dnet light will be still better then dnet vesper set ?:|
Btw why robe heave tanker like ability (clearly mages dont have anypassive to decrease critics :P ), and heavy mage like (nukers have slow in fs so.. ), shouldnt they be swapped xD, tank in heavy clearly would make more advantage form reducing hits, then slowing oponents, they are tanks for something xD
Quote from: seboulba on June 08, 2011, 02:40:40 PM
just to know , why so many bonus for the robe lol ??? incase that mage are already going to get alot of new skills like mage will and other OP skill and u add int men wit ? lol i hope u gonna correct the DESTRO like in offi who can hit like 1.5kkk on EPIC :) and not nerf DAGGER coz they are supposed to pown almost all .....
Sebo have you tested tank classes or BD, SWS on gracia ? have you heard about deflect magic skill ? probably not...
Quote from: Locus on June 08, 2011, 05:27:14 PM
Sebo have you tested tank classes or BD, SWS on gracia ? have you heard about deflect magic skill ? probably not...
There are 2 "deflect magic" skills...one from FS (80+) and one common.
Shield Deflect Magic (Common One) = 7 sec duration / reflect 30% of magic dmg received (reuse is pretty nice tbh, but use it all the time is annoying)
Deflect Magic: I didnt test yet, but its not a full reflect magic... seems like increase the chance of spell fail (50% dmg)
Quote from: Neozinhu on June 08, 2011, 01:08:39 PM
- dmg received @ pvp / - crit power and rate from opponent .... robe (LOL¹)
- dmg received @ pvp / Lose Target Effect... Light (LOL²)
- dmg received @ pvp / - attack spd from opponent.... Hvy (LOL³)
Mastercard will start to work soon as i see.
Have fun guys...
actually at official this is just a pvp bonus, like this one you can get even on A gr armor.
DNET Vesper light sucks simply. No % accuracy,No evasion like DNET light,Almost same atkspd and more patk (big deal for daggers). As for Debuff Remove target if is at least 50% chance we talk about it otherwise total useless.
Quote from: VforVanilla on June 09, 2011, 01:15:13 AM
DNET Vesper light sucks simply. No % accuracy,No evasion like DNET light,Almost same atkspd and more patk (big deal for daggers). As for Debuff Remove target if is at least 50% chance we talk about it otherwise total useless.
/agree... why light don't have same powerful bonus as Robe ::)
im just curious what will be price of it.... :D ::)
Quote from: Kotlet on June 06, 2011, 04:23:48 PM
Vesper is 84, and it should stay as 84. In gracia official subclasses can be lvled to 80. Same here.
Retails (mutants) cant use certification skills, cant lvl to 85 and learn 80+ skills... cant use Vesper, simple.
Maybe make Vesper D grade, beacuse ppl under 40 want use it :D QQ
mutants...ok
and y make ppl with chars on the top of their killing power (lvl 84/85) be even more powerfull with
dnet vesper sets with have no even one damn disadvantage of using it (-con/-men)... anyway its normal, example: DNET
soon they will start to make bows with 1500 range and daggers + bonus SA (5% to lethal while hitting opponent) :D
one more update like this and pvp will become "whom pres F1 first" action. ;D
Quote from: Evolution on June 09, 2011, 09:42:34 AM
/agree... why light don't have same powerful bonus as Robe ::)
im just curious what will be price of it.... :D ::)
Ill keep my dnet + 6 its will be much better then this dnet vesper only atk speed + p atak bonus and dnet have much more beyyer bonuss just lower p def...
Dunno how they can make robe set with OP stats and dnet vesper light is lower then dnet set :|
Well, every single server i playeb b4, all of them had a costom armor...but just 1!!
If with 1 costom armor ppl in ic/drac sets have 0 chance... what if with 2??
This will be Donatornetwork 100% and we'll lose ppl!!
Imo make vesper same as retail and leave dnet as the only costom set!! Don't be greedy basterds cause you will fuk yourselfs in longterm!!
Quote from: Javardsnegger on June 09, 2011, 10:32:18 PM
Well, every single server i playeb b4, all of them had a costom armor...but just 1!!
If with 1 costom armor ppl in ic/drac sets have 0 chance... what if with 2??
This will be Donatornetwork 100% and we'll lose ppl!!
Imo make vesper same as retail and leave dnet as the only costom set!! Don't be greedy basterds cause you will fuk yourselfs in longterm!!
dunno iff u realised but lineage 2 is dead alrdy anyway and all thAT Keep us here r friends from game and some pvps... and u believe in fairytales that they wont put those sets ?all they care is just money so u can write some more " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" but it wont change nothing :P PS. its alrdy "donatework"
Quote from: qwertyzxc on June 09, 2011, 10:04:12 PM
Ill keep my dnet + 6 its will be much better then this dnet vesper only atk speed + p atak bonus and dnet have much more beyyer bonuss just lower p def...
Dunno how they can make robe set with OP stats and dnet vesper light is lower then dnet set :|
mate gracia = Linemage
Quote from: jygh on June 09, 2011, 10:50:57 PM
dunno iff u realised but lineage 2 is dead alrdy anyway and all thAT Keep us here r friends from game and some pvps... and u believe in fairytales that they wont put those sets ?all they care is just money so u can write some more " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" but it wont change nothing :P PS. its alrdy "donatework"
Sadly you're 100% right!