How many ppl must lose serv before GM understand why they stop play? or you think after 6-7 years for us farm is the best part of game ? pvp is the best part of game and if you kill with this sh1t rate on cancel/steal what we do here? before we have alot of pvp at varka - check now , or you think after merge will be fun ,,,, same sh1t is before merge .I know what you say - take your sps/kamaels OK but how many ppl you think have now ? 2 000 ppl? can i w8 all day to gather sps/kamaels ? or can i go alone on pvp when after 2 x cancel/steal i am like elpy ? STOP KILL PVP
This skills are made this way, especialy steal, bear with it, how much more topics ppl will create just coz they lost buff... your fault for letting Kamaels/sps live long enough to steal them xD. Just get over with it already like a lot of ppl already did...
Quote from: 0l3j on June 08, 2011, 11:50:03 PM
This skills are made this way, especialy steal, bear with it, how much more topics ppl will create just coz they lost buff... your fault for letting Kamaels/sps live long enough to steal them xD. Just get over with it already like a lot of ppl already did...
ehhh read before comment i talk ABOUT SUCCESS RATE not about "we must have or no this skill"... dont spam
lern to play, then no skills will bother you
Quote from: flamingAwe on June 08, 2011, 11:59:12 PM
lern to play, then no skills will bother you
another spamer :) can learn any new phrase? like i say check on siege ppl in CC and other side ppl in CC ( i know how many we was before,after merge and now) cuz ppl just stop play because of this sh1t
Quote from: joroboro on June 09, 2011, 12:03:26 AM
another spamer :) can learn any new phrase? like i say check on siege ppl in CC and other side ppl in CC ( i know how many we was before,after merge and now) cuz ppl just stop play because of this sh1t
they stop coz of kamalol ? cancel ? .... plz grow up ;)
Quote from: joroboro on June 09, 2011, 12:03:26 AM
another spamer :) can learn any new phrase? like i say check on siege ppl in CC and other side ppl in CC ( i know how many we was before,after merge and now) cuz ppl just stop play because of this sh1t
call me whatever, but ppl here should learn to play with what they are given, and stop crying
all your QQ, if admins listen to it and change something, brings only more crys
and ppl have much more reasons to leave this server than you imagine... most of them just have lives
Quote from: Gonzal on June 09, 2011, 03:00:29 AM
u are not mark... where is the real? xD
Playing with a kamael prolly (j/k) ;D ;D ;D
you make pvp oversimplified .. F1 "attack" or F1 "death spike" ... and you have stacked classes, you should perma have buffer in pt. go look at some official movies, i give you an example: as a healer i was always targeted by kamaels, i get medusa and in 10 seconds i had 0 buffs .. 0. but you have your sws/bd/wc with you and should rebuff you no ? wtf you keep crying about this, make a proper party.
Quote from: flamingAwe on June 09, 2011, 12:21:53 AM
call me whatever, but ppl here should learn to play with what they are given, and stop crying
all your QQ, if admins listen to it and change something, brings only more crys
and ppl have much more reasons to leave this server than you imagine... most of them just have lives
So ur advice that ppl should eat shit with smiling face coz it might hurt some one else? And if some one not like you ... you call him crayer?
I also played on some server where cancel/steal would simply "block" 4-5 buffs for 30 seconds.
After 30 seconds the buffs would return.
Imo this would be a nice compromis for this server also.
Quote from: joroboro on June 08, 2011, 11:43:25 PM
How many ppl must lose serv before GM understand why they stop play? or you think after 6-7 years for us farm is the best part of game ? pvp is the best part of game and if you kill with this sh1t rate on cancel/steal what we do here? before we have alot of pvp at varka - check now , or you think after merge will be fun ,,,, same sh1t is before merge .I know what you say - take your sps/kamaels OK but how many ppl you think have now ? 2 000 ppl? can i w8 all day to gather sps/kamaels ? or can i go alone on pvp when after 2 x cancel/steal i am like elpy ? STOP KILL PVP
+1 change rate or reuse... cuz its realy incredible.
kk ty bb.
Quote from: thehunted on June 09, 2011, 09:31:30 AM
I also played on some server where cancel/steal would simply "block" 4-5 buffs for 30 seconds.
After 30 seconds the buffs would return.
Imo this would be a nice compromis for this server also.
not bad idea...
+2
Quote from: 0l3j on June 08, 2011, 11:50:03 PM
This skills are made this way, especialy steal, bear with it, how much more topics ppl will create just coz they lost buff... your fault for letting Kamaels/sps live long enough to steal them xD. Just get over with it already like a lot of ppl already did...
sps and kamaels don't stay dead for longer then 5 seconds since 7/9 people from that party probably have ressurection skill. Also there are lamers who build their whole party strategy on cancel skill so they do everything to keep these classes alive.
Quote from: PainMaster on June 09, 2011, 12:11:26 AM
they stop coz of kamalol ? cancel ? .... plz grow up ;)
i know what talk ppl near me , i know what i do ..cuz no reason to play w/o buffs ppl just stop play cuz we play only for pvp when Gm make this impossible we just stop ... simply after merge we pvp ~ 150 ppl now we are .... 80 after and what ? next merge ?i dont know if cancel/steal with this rate if too much impotant for Gm from ppl activity ... OK np :)
Quote from: flamingAwe on June 09, 2011, 12:21:53 AM
call me whatever, but ppl here should learn to play with what they are given, and stop crying
all your QQ, if admins listen to it and change something, brings only more crys
and ppl have much more reasons to leave this server than you imagine... most of them just have lives
ofc ppl have another reasons to leave but ( for me , my friends ) pvp is the best part of L2 and when GM make this imposible what we to do here ?
Quote from: joroboro on June 09, 2011, 10:22:58 AM
ofc ppl have another reasons to leave but ( for me , my friends ) pvp is the best part of L2 and when GM make this imposible what we to do here ?
they cancel you, you cancel them, wha's the problem? everyone, everyside has same possibilities.
it's like saying, oh freak, remove all healers, we want to kill, and need to keep slot for stupid, useless bishop!!!!
this shit never gets old
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/160/5/9/popcorn_gif_by_zombiejosette.gif)
Gzz how come sp many ppl have problems with Kamaels? I'm making my pvp and rarely get pwnd by Kamaels.
Reason?
Its few of them from my perspective and easy to wipe with proper guns.
Quote from: flamingAwe on June 09, 2011, 10:53:04 AM
they cancel you, you cancel them, wha's the problem? everyone, everyside has same possibilities.
it's like saying, oh freak, remove all healers, we want to kill, and need to keep slot for stupid, useless bishop!!!!
i dont know what`s wrong with u ppl and how u can injoy in game where is there no more set up`s on chars {like evasion ,p.def m.def set up`s on ur chars what can keep u more alive like before} no more tactic`s only what`s left is this server is cancel cancel cancel that the think what`s ruing evryting anymor eis not inportant if u have good wepoan if u have good armor if u have good atributs if u have enchanted skills nothing not mather anymore is simple pvp f1 from fighters and and cancel/steal divinity from mages and kamaels there is pointles having bp`s in party anymore noone can heal u if u runing all time with buffs and each day +1 kamael coming up in pvp no mether wich side is and mostly kamaels make it by ppl who was dieing like fly`s in pvp coz low gear or pure 0 skills in pvp who dont even spend few coins on main chars on fs`s on enchanting skills who rerrol evry moon so that why ppl leave that why ppl stop playing on this sh1t coz there is no balance at all to somone can stay on main char all who protecting this kamael rase are ppl who allready make kamaels or stupid ppl who dont care for server population and dont care for fun so flame cry not cry will finish very fast if continue remaining like this
p.s : just for info this ppl who are onlline now on server mostly w8 gracia to see what will heppand with huge hope that owners of this community will do something agenst this lame few skills what`s kick all ppl out of game each day so cya around
Quote from: flamingAwe on June 09, 2011, 10:53:04 AM
they cancel you, you cancel them, wha's the problem? everyone, everyside has same possibilities.
it's like saying, oh freak, remove all healers, we want to kill, and need to keep slot for stupid, useless bishop!!!!
how can cancel them if i'm not mage ? where is old pvp 1 vs 1 , 2 vs 2 , 3 vs 3 now one sps/kamael make this configuration meaningless ? now we must w8 ppl log sps or kamael to can pvp ? why i can go to solo pvp ?like we have xxxxxxx ppl ons erver not only ~ 150 ?
Quote from: thehunted on June 09, 2011, 09:31:30 AM
I also played on some server where cancel/steal would simply "block" 4-5 buffs for 30 seconds.
After 30 seconds the buffs would return.
Imo this would be a nice compromis for this server also.
coming to DN 2012...?
Quote from: joroboro on June 09, 2011, 11:55:48 AM
how cancel them if i'm not mage ? where is old pvp 1 vs 1 , 2 vs 2 , 3 vs 3 ? now we must w8 ppl log sps or kamael to can pvp ? why i can go to solo pvp ?like we have xxxxxxx ppl ons erver not only ~ 150 ?
this is best! You can't kill kamael in 1 vs 1 ;D ;D ;D
GL crying here, you just showed that you care about your ass, not about server wide PvPs
damn, such cryers make me wanna make kamael, or at least sps/sorc to get rivers of tears here :D
Quote from: flamingAwe on June 09, 2011, 12:00:58 PM
this is best! You can't kill kamael in 1 vs 1 ;D ;D ;D
GL crying here, you just showed that you care about your ass, not about server wide PvPs
damn, such cryers make me wanna make kamael, or at least sps/sorc to get rivers of tears here :D
on last pvp vs kamael i have only 3 x buffs on me .. GL with kamael and your replay is just spam nothing more
jorobor, you're just cryer who cant play, nothing more. You wait Gracia ? Kamaels will PWN in gracia even more then now , you will dehydrate form crys when gracia come...
I used to cry a lot to, for everything, but i stoped, coz like awe say, take what game gives you, and learn to use it, if you cant, LEAVE THE FOKING SERVER.
If your pt cant rbf you after kamalol/sps cancel buffs, this means your pt cant play or you just get overpowered by stronger enemy. If your buffers cant make fast rbfs, cry to them not here.
Mby we should removes healers form this game,coz you cant kill enemy ? :> Rly making all the fuss just of 2 skills, where we have rly bigger problems here :)
Quote from: joroboro on June 08, 2011, 11:43:25 PM
How many ppl must lose serv before GM understand why they stop play? or you think after 6-7 years for us farm is the best part of game ? pvp is the best part of game and if you kill with this sh1t rate on cancel/steal what we do here? before we have alot of pvp at varka - check now , or you think after merge will be fun ,,,, same sh1t is before merge .I know what you say - take your sps/kamaels OK but how many ppl you think have now ? 2 000 ppl? can i w8 all day to gather sps/kamaels ? or can i go alone on pvp when after 2 x cancel/steal i am like elpy ? STOP KILL PVP
QQ detected.
Leave plz
Quote from: PolSilv3r on June 09, 2011, 01:33:11 PM
QQ detected.
Leave plz
you can learn another phrase ?or can only this spam?
Quote from: flamingAwe on June 09, 2011, 10:53:04 AM
they cancel you, you cancel them, wha's the problem? everyone, everyside has same possibilities.
it's like saying, oh freak, remove all healers, we want to kill, and need to keep slot for stupid, useless bishop!!!!
ech, didnt thought il wrote it someday, but +1 awe.
Quote from: joroboro on June 08, 2011, 11:43:25 PM
How many ppl must lose serv before GM understand why they stop play? or you think after 6-7 years for us farm is the best part of game ? pvp is the best part of game and if you kill with this sh1t rate on cancel/steal what we do here? before we have alot of pvp at varka - check now , or you think after merge will be fun ,,,, same sh1t is before merge .I know what you say - take your sps/kamaels OK but how many ppl you think have now ? 2 000 ppl? can i w8 all day to gather sps/kamaels ? or can i go alone on pvp when after 2 x cancel/steal i am like elpy ? STOP KILL PVP
dude, as i see u just next QQ kid, which prolly play on archer and use just F1(/attackforce) and F2(stunshot) sometimes. learn how make parties and how to play, not just press F1.
with this sick theory, ppl leave server cuz of kamaels u made my day. thx. now in stupidy u beat even sethan.
also special for u, dear cryer short math lesson:
AOD - 4 kamael, BArmy - 0 kamael, BAngelz - 1 or 2 kamael, so in total 5-6.
Temps - 7-8 kamaels, CB - 2 kamaels, WS 2-3 kamaels + clanless 3-4 so in total 14-17.
so who should cry here about steal divinity?
Quote from: joroboro on June 08, 2011, 11:43:25 PM
STOP KILL PVP
start use brain, learn how to play and stop cry. thx
Quote from: Shadow21 on June 09, 2011, 02:27:31 PM
ech, didnt thought il wrote it someday, but +1 awe.
dude, as i see u just next QQ kid, which prolly play on archer and use just F1(/attackforce) and F2(stunshot) sometimes. learn how make parties and how to play, not just press F1.
with this sick theory, ppl leave server cuz of kamaels u made my day. thx. now in stupidy u beat even sethan.
also special for u, dear cryer short math lesson:
AOD - 4 kamael, BArmy - 0 kamael, BAngelz - 1 or 2 kamael, so in total 5-6.
Temps - 7-8 kamaels, CB - 2 kamaels, WS 2-3 kamaels + clanless 3-4 so in total 14-17.
so who should cry here about steal divinity?
start use brain, learn how to play and stop cry. thx
another spammer w/o proof .... who will be next ? i not write theory , check better, i write only facts one of them is we get again less number ppl ( i + friends stop for this sux rate cancel/steal )
Quote from: Shadow21 on June 09, 2011, 02:27:31 PM
AOD - 4 kamael, BArmy - 0 kamael, BAngelz - 1 or 2 kamael, so in total 5-6.
Temps - 7-8 kamaels, CB - 2 kamaels, WS 2-3 kamaels + clanless 3-4 so in total 14-17.
so who should cry here about steal divinity?
start use brain, learn how to play and stop cry. thx
where u see 2 kamaels from cb? there is only 1 that log 2 times at week.
ppls are leaving server cuz its boring like a shit,we all missing old times nothing else.
Quote from: mark_elesse on June 09, 2011, 10:46:18 AM
exam session in progress. : < i cant afford to waste any piece of my creativity on tards atm. 2 weeks more, and im back to alive. ( least i hope so )
come back soon :)
Quote from: joroboro on June 09, 2011, 02:29:12 PM
another spammer w/o proof .... who will be next ? i not write theory , check better, i write only facts
which facts? some ur friend stop play cuz of steal divinity? where prof? i didnt saw rly. quote plox, mb im blind. but if some1 rly stop play cuz of 1 skill mb its rly his time ^^
and which prof needed in my post? ur side made alrdy more kamaels? sry im lazy count then. this static ~ 1 week old.
Quote from: Tabbox on June 09, 2011, 02:34:16 PM
where u see 2 kamaels from cb? there is only 1 that log 2 times at week.
ppls are leaving server cuz its boring like a shit,we all missing old times nothing else.
i saw 2 ;p but true, lFaith more active, second i saw in pvp few times only. check ur clanlist, mb there answer ;p
Quote from: joroboro on June 09, 2011, 02:29:12 PM
( i + friends stop for this sux rate cancel/steal )
gl in real, mb finally will be not so much cry on forum :P
Honestly, the best pvps are at oly ;D
Its so fun to fight mage x mage at oly. Fun and balanced fights.
And yes, kamael cancel should be a bit nerfed and fixed to remove random buffs, not only last buffs.
Quote from: Shadow21 on June 09, 2011, 02:35:13 PM
i saw 2 ;p but true, lFaith more active, second i saw in pvp few times only. check ur clanlist, mb there answer ;p
there is only 1, other one left that lame char after 1 week.
OK sorry for topic i think nothing will be change
pls lock topic
Quote from: 666VeNoM on June 09, 2011, 02:40:52 PM
Honestly, the best pvps are at oly ;D
Its so fun to fight mage x mage at oly. Fun and balanced fights.
And yes, kamael cancel should be a bit nerfed and fixed to remove random buffs, not only last buffs.
thats what i asked to fix in my other topic :D
dunno how it works on offi but i think it should be like cancel: removes buffs randomly
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,246972.0.html
cheers
Quote from: Gonzal on June 09, 2011, 04:17:13 PM
thats what i asked to fix in my other topic :D
dunno how it works on offi but i think it should be like cancel: removes buffs randomly
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,246972.0.html
cheers
if it removes last buffs you have some protection in oly, you can do the sh1t buffs at last and with 7 s cooldown by the time he does 2nd life steal you have time to pew pew him
Quote from: tzuc on June 09, 2011, 04:30:01 PM
if it removes last buffs you have some protection in oly, you can do the sh1t buffs at last and with 7 s cooldown by the time he does 2nd life steal you have time to pew pew him
u forget the lightning strike or w/e name is skill ;D
Quote from: Shadow21 on June 09, 2011, 02:27:31 PM
WS 2-3 kamaels + clanless 3-4
realy?:P thoug we have 3 (not even 85 level and medium equip) but ok ;)
Thou i admit that i rarely have pvp with enemys kamaels (think few in AOD but mostly test/fun chars visible from time to time).
I realy don't get this Kamael topic. you see incoming kamael? nail it!! assist or LS should do the trick after all nobody is standing when thers destro/tyr on frenzee rushing you.
Quote from: fenrris on June 09, 2011, 05:16:42 PM
realy?:P thoug we have 3 (not even 85 level and medium equip) but ok ;)
i didnt mean these clanless - WS alts.
Quote from: Shadow21 on June 09, 2011, 05:31:50 PM
i didnt mean these clanless - WS alts.
I rest my case ;D
Quote from: joroboro on June 09, 2011, 02:26:03 PM
you can learn another phrase ?or can only this spam?
/system_error_1404
Quote from: joroboro on June 08, 2011, 11:43:25 PM
How many ppl must lose serv before GM understand why they stop play? or you think after 6-7 years for us farm is the best part of game ? pvp is the best part of game and if you kill with this sh1t rate on cancel/steal what we do here? before we have alot of pvp at varka - check now , or you think after merge will be fun ,,,, same sh1t is before merge .I know what you say - take your sps/kamaels OK but how many ppl you think have now ? 2 000 ppl? can i w8 all day to gather sps/kamaels ? or can i go alone on pvp when after 2 x cancel/steal i am like elpy ? STOP KILL PVP
QQ bici make sps or make kamael if you thik that its all how you say and try to pown
you will see only how much they sux they are 3 hits from an archer
and one more thing y its true the game its for pvp but not like you say log 3 bots buff your self and go varka for that there is playes who play wcs.bds.pps or sws to rebuff you when you get cancel or when they steal your buff this is MULTYPLAYERGAME DUDE ITS NOT SUPER MARIO OR PANG!!!
Quote from: Crazzyyhuhuh on June 09, 2011, 07:33:03 PM
QQ bici make sps or make kamael if you thik that its all how you say and try to pown
you will see only how much they sux they are 3 hits from an archer
true ... i play sps/ee and one of my friend plays kamael .. we are victims if archer target us , not to mention assist from 1 or 2 more archers ... maybe cause we don't have donny equipment , but if u complain that your 8 archers + 1 healer and 1 milion buff boxes party is getting raped , than what can i say ? ofc we all hate kamaels / cancel .. but i also hate 3 his dead from archers , i hate that daggers bluff/lethal me and i hit the floor , i hate that my char that should have the biggest cast speed has actually lower cast speed then some sh/... wich has 3 times more m.atk then me ... i hate that i couldn't do more then 100 dmg to sws/ee ( fok u onu :D ) , i hate that 99% of server have donny items, i hate that vesper will bring zero chances for me to have fun in pvp .... i don't like thousands of other thing but man THIS IS THE GAME , THIS IS THE SERVER
yes alot of ppl alrdy left server b/c of kamalols... and many more will follow i bet! It's simple. you can have a +10 dnet and +16ic, you will get owned buy steal/shock/stun/steal....!
where 's the fun in enidng a 20second pvp with no buffs?
Kamalols should get nerfed mainly cause of 2 reasons!
1-This is not retail server! Don't say sh1ts like "skill is working like retail, bla bla bla... this server has costom substck system!! Period!
2- Kamalols are the only race who never saw a nerf in this freakin nerflover server!!
Lool i edited my topic to say few more words! I must say i understand who's trying to defend their class from certain nerf, it's normal! i think i would do the same... despite some honest kamael players are the first to admit they are op.
Truth is, you can see diferance between pvp with and without kamaels.... they turn completely the face of the battle...
Lol it's funny to say "learn how to play" to some1 who's plays the game for 7 years :P
What can you do vs steal (100% landing rate)....7 buffs away...make 1 step / shock (100% landing rate)... stop moving.... mean viele 7 more buffs been kissed bye bye.... take another step/ stun/shock (100% landing rate) w/e.... 7 more buffs away... dead... lol!! .i. with your kamalols!!
IMo landing rate for shock/stun/sd should be less than 15% or treuse should be at least 1 min... at least...
OR lower their p def to 600 or 500 in dnet!
Quote from: Crazzyyhuhuh on June 09, 2011, 07:33:03 PM
QQ bici make sps or make kamael if you thik that its all how you say and try to pown
you will see only how much they sux they are 3 hits from an archer
and one more thing y its true the game its for pvp but not like you say log 3 bots buff your self and go varka for that there is playes who play wcs.bds.pps or sws to rebuff you when you get cancel or when they steal your buff this is MULTYPLAYERGAME DUDE ITS NOT SUPER MARIO OR PANG!!!
lol where you see multiplayer here ? hahaha inga + tukan + 1 bp + songer and bd kill Valakas alone this -is-multiplayer ? ;D like i said stop spam here pls write just facts , if you are more activity will see many things ;D ;D ;D don't talk for multiplayer game pffffff
First of all i know that kamael is overpowered, but Trust me!, it isnt that hard to disable kamael in pvp. Learn to play with assist, you got archer pt? stun him, mage ? cancel/silence him. ASSIST. I use my kamael as mage, so i got pretty nice stats, but i wont use even 1 skill if my pt dont have tank to give me sof if enemy pt will take me on target. L2P insted crying
Quote from: Locus on June 09, 2011, 09:05:27 PM
First of all i know that kamael is overpowered, but Trust me!, it isnt that hard to disable kamael in pvp. Learn to play with assist, you got archer pt? stun him, mage ? cancel/silence him. ASSIST. I use my kamael as mage, so i got pretty nice stats, but i wont use even 1 skill if my pt dont have tank to give me sof if enemy pt will take me on target. L2P insted crying
kamael is not OP they just have 100 % success rate on steal - ok np make same rate on stun , sleep..... where is the problem ?make all sh1t skill with 100 % success rate why only steal, cancel ?
Quote from: cerebelo on June 09, 2011, 07:56:45 PM
true ... i play sps/ee and one of my friend plays kamael .. we are victims if archer target us , not to mention assist from 1 or 2 more archers ... maybe cause we don't have donny equipment , but if u complain that your 8 archers + 1 healer and 1 milion buff boxes party is getting raped , than what can i say ? ofc we all hate kamaels / cancel .. but i also hate 3 his dead from archers , i hate that daggers bluff/lethal me and i hit the floor , i hate that my char that should have the biggest cast speed has actually lower cast speed then some sh/... wich has 3 times more m.atk then me ... i hate that i couldn't do more then 100 dmg to sws/ee ( fok u onu :D ) , i hate that 99% of server have donny items, i hate that vesper will bring zero chances for me to have fun in pvp .... i don't like thousands of other thing but man THIS IS THE GAME , THIS IS THE SERVER
+1
look he have so much reasons to cry, and didnt started topic to cry with server bout them :D
Yes you have problem with one skill, and cry more, kinda funny.
Mby 100% is kinda too good, but ffs, overall Kamalols die realy faaast, and i assure you dying constantly isnt funny at all. If they dont have teammates to cover them with sof, great dose of heal, detarget, pure numbers or other shjts, THEY JUST DIE. And remember, Kamalol can steal buff form other Kamalol too, so they pwn themselfs also. Let them have more fun with this char, even if it can be annoying.
Archers are also annoying , especialy with this kiteing(?) wich i just hate :P, but hell this is how this char works, so i learned to live with it. Be more mature, not like lil kid whos toy broken.
For me you can play even from kindergarten in this game, kamalols appeared in Hellbound, new age, if you cant get used to it and change your tactics accordingly, you're just like some old fart who negate everythink, and really shoud leave server (rly learn to play, ppl learn all their life, both real and virtual, what you can and know tdy will not be enough tomorrow if cant learn )...
Quote from: Locus on June 09, 2011, 09:05:27 PM
First of all i know that kamael is overpowered, but Trust me!, it isnt that hard to disable kamael in pvp. Learn to play with assist, you got archer pt? stun him, mage ? cancel/silence him. ASSIST. I use my kamael as mage, so i got pretty nice stats, but i wont use even 1 skill if my pt dont have tank to give me sof if enemy pt will take me on target. L2P insted crying
Locus, common, i don't think of you as a stupid guy!
1 vs 1 a top equiped kamael is almost impossible to kill, only if you are lucky enough to root/anchor/silence him! Othervise is like i said b4 100% landing rate shock, 100% landing rate stun, 100%, 3sec re use 7 buff remover stealdivinity!!
In a pt it's even harder... cause like some1 said b4 you have morrons who make 9ppl partys turned only to cancel (even though it's lower than a cowturd).... so being an archer or even a full pt of o/e archers (like it alrdy hapened) vs 2 kamalol with blade/wind storm+sof+cop+spam heal?? what can you do?? Get down to earth and NERF fking KAMAELS b4 you have a dozen players ig...
If someone wants to leave server from such stupid reason, he is moron. We dont need morons here that much (well not that kind of morons ;p ), i will be happy if they leave server.
Quote from: 0l3j on June 09, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
If someone wants to leave server from such stupid reason, he is moron. We dont need morons here that much (well not that kind of morons ;p ), i will be happy if they leave server.
And for you this is a stupid reason?? 1 clas has taken all the fun out of pvp's?? Skill and knowhow doesn't mather anymore since one class take all your buffs and his skill's land with 100% eficiency??
So for you having no fun in pvp anymore is a lame reason?? You think 5years+ players farm here??
Dude! Stfu plz!! I know you don't want your char to be nerfed but hey, imo it's inevitable... You can bullsh1t all you want! Gm's are not stupid, they can see when a class is op (speacialy dn gm's ;D), you've been lucky cause imo they haven't been nerfed alrdy cause of lack of time!!
"Dude" I dont care, I am sps i'm already nerfed in my greates part, cst so rly, and my cancel isnt all that good, also i cant mass stun enemies to cancel them more easly :P , even so if they would nerf it, to hell with this skill I have others.
If you dont have fun in pvp anymore, then problem is with YOU not with kamalols.
And YES IT IS stupid reason, as i said, in gracia (now you will see with your own eyes ) kamalols will pwn even more, so be rdy for that.
I dont pwn with my char, hell i'm far from that, and when it bothers me to much i just make lil break. Even so I can find fun in pvp now, so whos got problem here, i think you. if you want to just pwn in pvp, you will never have fun.
Quote from: 0l3j on June 09, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
If someone wants to leave server from such stupid reason, he is moron. We dont need morons here that much (well not that kind of morons ;p ), i will be happy if they leave server.
heh keep moron comment for you and what do here 50 ppl if ppl start leave ? ;D from your(again) spam comment ppl see who is real moron here ;D
told youuu make one and see i was thinking the same like you omg wtf kamael powns i made one and you know what exept that steal buff he sux in evrything else its 2 hits target so im thinking if he dont have the steal what he will do ?
Quote from: joroboro on June 09, 2011, 10:59:32 PM
heh keep moron comment for you and what do here 50 ppl if ppl start leave ? ;D from your(again) spam comment ppl see who is real moron here ;D
Your just lil tard, so you dont understand my point, everyone who dont agree with you are just spamming ? :P very mature , very..
I would prefer server to die or be even lower on ppl, and not have to deal everyday with cryers, who instead of learning how to play , just cry, go go leave server do me a favour.
I can just find other game/server rly not much problem here if it comes to that.
Quote from: 0l3j on June 09, 2011, 11:12:55 PM
Your just lil tard, so you dont understand my point, everyone who dont agree with you are just spamming ? :P very mature , very..
I would prefer server to die or be even lower on ppl, and not have to deal everyday with cryers, who instead of learning how to play , just cry, go go leave server do me a favour.
I can just find other game/server rly not much problem here if it comes to that.
and what is your point ? let try pvp sps vs .....no matter who (w/o kamael) let make 10 match ? and we will see maaaax 9 : 1 for sps if dagger have luck with lethal before get sleep , cancel, cancel .. this is fair pvp ? ;D i think is fair pvp when from 10 match we get result
like 5:5 , 4:6 .. OK 7:3 but 10:0 ^^ omg and don't teach me how to play cuz if we make pvp i wanna after that post your dmg here ( ofc you will kill me 10 :0) but pls post your dmg on me ;D believe me - you will not post here
Quote from: joroboro on June 09, 2011, 11:28:09 PM
and what is your point ? let try pvp sps vs .....no matter who (w/o kamael) let make 10 match ? and we will see maaaax 9 : 1 for sps if dagger have luck with lethal before get sleep , cancel, cancel .. this is fair pvp ? ;D i think is fair pvp when from 10 match we get result
like 5:5 , 4:6 .. OK 7:3 but 10:0 ^^ omg and don't teach me how to play cuz if we make pvp i wanna after that post your dmg here ( ofc you will kill me 10 :0) but pls post your dmg on me ;D believe me - you will not post here
It sounds like 'Damn! I am so good! My e-penis +20cm! Wohoooo'
You sound like a tard - rly :)
Quote from: PolSilv3r on June 09, 2011, 11:54:17 PM
It sounds like 'Damn! I am so good! My e-penis +20cm! Wohoooo'
You sound like a tard - rly :)
heh i will put it in " super spam" ;D
U ppl are lucky that mark have exams ::)
Quote from: 0l3j on June 09, 2011, 11:12:55 PM
Your just lil tard, so you dont understand my point, everyone who dont agree with you are just spamming ? :P very mature , very..
I would prefer server to die or be even lower on ppl, and not have to deal everyday with cryers, who instead of learning how to play , just cry, go go leave server do me a favour.
I can just find other game/server rly not much problem here if it comes to that.
oO teach me master how to learn to play vs kamel pls pls pls and from where u get that idea that kamaels are 2-3 hit i dont get it are u evar try hit kamael or what`s ur problem i dont undestand we dont deal here with noonne subet Soul Hound so u can kill it easy evry fu cking kamael have a subclass wich have ud`s ressit vs archer mages and if i remember good is aUD for 1 min who incrase M.def and drop dmg from bow 50% so dont tell me kamaels are easy to b kill it and even u manage to kill them even if they dont have noobles on them they dont need them is fu cking lame chanr what dont need buffs he can continue useing that lame skill evry 8-10 sec or less not even badow to find the reuse time of it and crashing oponent who are damn uselles w/o buff so dont tell me learn how to play i will gladdly give power x5 on kamael just to delete that steal divinity skill if even can call it like that my first targets are allways kamael but when ever i hit them with 8k p.atack can deal more then 1 k dmg and dont tell me they have it sof noone cant have 24/7 sof so stop saying learn how to play coz i have no fear to die like a man in pvp by some dmg or something like that we all hit and run beck all time to not get closer to kamael and u say it evan u are bored to run over archer they kite u what u espect to come rush u in middle and to not move from 1 kamael who use lighting strike who land with 99% rate so blow me dude and stop saying craps all over the topic
Quote from: Kastro on June 10, 2011, 01:40:30 AM
oO teach me master how to learn to play vs kamel pls pls pls and from where u get that idea that kamaels are 2-3 hit i dont get it are u evar try hit kamael or what`s ur problem i dont undestand we dont deal here with noonne subet Soul Hound so u can kill it easy evry fu cking kamael have a subclass wich have ud`s ressit vs archer mages and if i remember good is aUD for 1 min who incrase M.def and drop dmg from bow 50% so dont tell me kamaels are easy to b kill it and even u manage to kill them even if they dont have noobles on them they dont need them is fu cking lame chanr what dont need buffs he can continue useing that lame skill evry 8-10 sec or less not even badow to find the reuse time of it and crashing oponent who are damn uselles w/o buff so dont tell me learn how to play i will gladdly give power x5 on kamael just to delete that steal divinity skill if even can call it like that my first targets are allways kamael but when ever i hit them with 8k p.atack can deal more then 1 k dmg and dont tell me they have it sof noone cant have 24/7 sof so stop saying learn how to play coz i have no fear to die like a man in pvp by some dmg or something like that we all hit and run beck all time to not get closer to kamael and u say it evan u are bored to run over archer they kite u what u espect to come rush u in middle and to not move from 1 kamael who use lighting strike who land with 99% rate so blow me dude and stop saying craps all over the topic
finaly some facts - who will be object vs this facts ? any idea what is wrong here ? ;D ;D ;D don't spam .... Ty
Quote from: joroboro on June 09, 2011, 11:28:09 PM
and what is your point ? let try pvp sps vs .....no matter who (w/o kamael) let make 10 match ? and we will see maaaax 9 : 1 for sps if dagger have luck with lethal before get sleep , cancel, cancel .. this is fair pvp ? ;D i think is fair pvp when from 10 match we get result
like 5:5 , 4:6 .. OK 7:3 but 10:0 ^^ omg and don't teach me how to play cuz if we make pvp i wanna after that post your dmg here ( ofc you will kill me 10 :0) but pls post your dmg on me ;D believe me - you will not post here
First of all not all sps are ee i am f/e sps/es, and there lot of sws.
Sps is here form the foking beginig, and NOW you cry bout his cancel ? give me a break, whos noob here.
I dont make screens of every fight and conversation like some tards do, dont need to prove anything to anyone :)
Rly grow up, cancel alone will never win pvp, but i'm sure you never played paper sps so its easy to say.
Quote from: Kastro on June 10, 2011, 01:40:30 AM
oO teach me master how to learn to play vs kamel pls pls pls and from where u get that idea that kamaels are 2-3 hit i dont get it are u evar try hit kamael or what`s ur problem i dont undestand we dont deal here with noonne subet Soul Hound so u can kill it easy evry fu cking kamael have a subclass wich have ud`s ressit vs archer mages and if i remember good is aUD for 1 min who incrase M.def and drop dmg from bow 50% so dont tell me kamaels are easy to b kill it and even u manage to kill them even if they dont have noobles on them they dont need them is fu cking lame chanr what dont need buffs he can continue useing that lame skill evry 8-10 sec or less not even badow to find the reuse time of it and crashing oponent who are damn uselles w/o buff so dont tell me learn how to play i will gladdly give power x5 on kamael just to delete that steal divinity skill if even can call it like that my first targets are allways kamael but when ever i hit them with 8k p.atack can deal more then 1 k dmg and dont tell me they have it sof noone cant have 24/7 sof so stop saying learn how to play coz i have no fear to die like a man in pvp by some dmg or something like that we all hit and run beck all time to not get closer to kamael and u say it evan u are bored to run over archer they kite u what u espect to come rush u in middle and to not move from 1 kamael who use lighting strike who land with 99% rate so blow me dude and stop saying craps all over the topic
Oh another tard that never played the char but he knows all bout this.
Zerks ud works only for p def, so mages still rape him at that time, deflect arrow added with little m def bonus, work 10 seconds, this prahnah thingy give ud only to magic, so archers still can rape.
If they manage to keep him constantly alive, good for them realyy good,
But now you're saying shjts , I just said i ont like kiteing as mage, coz i'm rather slow, and you came up form nowhere with Kamalol. You're some psycho? You see Kamalols every corner in every pvp? Coz lately i see less Kamalols, we're still in archers era, and theres is hell of them, but we're nowhere to be in Kamalols era, they're just few, and if you cant deal with them, rly learn how to lose without crying at least.
These are not facts you tell ppl, just crys, nothing more, the whole point is you need to be prepared for kamalols, prepared for quick rbf in the middle of pvp especialy, for me this add more exciment to pvp, if i need to constantly watch m ybuff to see if something didnt disappear form there, get used to it already, if not rly leave server...
Ok i will not bother with more answers,coz you're just not reformable, want to cry bout one skill that own you, so be it.
Quote from: joroboro on June 09, 2011, 09:08:22 PM
kamael is not OP they just have 100 % success rate on steal - ok np make same rate on stun , sleep..... where is the problem ?make all sh1t skill with 100 % success rate why only steal, cancel ?
+1
Quote from: Kastro on June 10, 2011, 01:40:30 AM
oO teach me master how to learn to play vs kamel pls pls pls and from where u get that idea that kamaels are 2-3 hit i dont get it are u evar try hit kamael or what`s ur problem i dont undestand we dont deal here with noonne subet Soul Hound so u can kill it easy evry fu cking kamael have a subclass wich have ud`s ressit vs archer mages and if i remember good is aUD for 1 min who incrase M.def and drop dmg from bow 50% so dont tell me kamaels are easy to b kill it and even u manage to kill them even if they dont have noobles on them they dont need them is fu cking lame chanr what dont need buffs he can continue useing that lame skill evry 8-10 sec or less not even badow to find the reuse time of it and crashing oponent who are damn uselles w/o buff so dont tell me learn how to play i will gladdly give power x5 on kamael just to delete that steal divinity skill if even can call it like that my first targets are allways kamael but when ever i hit them with 8k p.atack can deal more then 1 k dmg and dont tell me they have it sof noone cant have 24/7 sof so stop saying learn how to play coz i have no fear to die like a man in pvp by some dmg or something like that we all hit and run beck all time to not get closer to kamael and u say it evan u are bored to run over archer they kite u what u espect to come rush u in middle and to not move from 1 kamael who use lighting strike who land with 99% rate so blow me dude and stop saying craps all over the topic
/agree 100%!
UD for mdef 1 min but for archers only 10 sec. And yes they can have soff all the time^^or vegenace or ud:D qq moar
Quote from: 0l3j on June 10, 2011, 09:00:21 AM
First of all not all sps are ee i am f/e sps/es, and there lot of sws.
Sps is here form the foking beginig, and NOW you cry bout his cancel ? give me a break, whos noob here.
I dont make screens of every fight and conversation like some tards do, dont need to prove anything to anyone :)
Rly grow up, cancel alone will never win pvp, but i'm sure you never played paper sps so its easy to say.
Oh another tard that never played the char but he knows all bout this.
Zerks ud works only for p def, so mages still rape him at that time, deflect arrow added with little m def bonus, work 10 seconds, this prahnah thingy give ud only to magic, so archers still can rape.
If they manage to keep him constantly alive, good for them realyy good,
But now you're saying shjts , I just said i ont like kiteing as mage, coz i'm rather slow, and you came up form nowhere with Kamalol. You're some psycho? You see Kamalols every corner in every pvp? Coz lately i see less Kamalols, we're still in archers era, and theres is hell of them, but we're nowhere to be in Kamalols era, they're just few, and if you cant deal with them, rly learn how to lose without crying at least.
These are not facts you tell ppl, just crys, nothing more, the whole point is you need to be prepared for kamalols, prepared for quick rbf in the middle of pvp especialy, for me this add more exciment to pvp, if i need to constantly watch m ybuff to see if something didnt disappear form there, get used to it already, if not rly leave server...
Ok i will not bother with more answers,coz you're just not reformable, want to cry bout one skill that own you, so be it.
if you want i can say you how will be one fight archer vs sps/tk , sps/sws or like you sps /es ;D with Servitor Barrier on pony ;D and non stop cancel before S.Barrier end ;D from your post i understand only one thing -from all ppl only you can play
As i can see this dude have nevar be vs few kamaels in same time who assit on eachther and use 2-3 steal divinity what`s mean u lost 80% of ur buffs what`s mean u allready are on targets on some dps what`s mean u are instantly dead .2nd dancers songer can resong/dance 1 max 2 times if they are not dead coz noone have unlimited mana to over song for 1 guy all time but what i`m trying to explan for a retard guy who nevar know what`s mean kamael klas is new and nevar was in the world of gm`s to be fix it on land skills like outher rase`s and to tell u just for ur info dude cancel got fix how should work chance and random buffs from 1 to 5 but ofc u are to retard lamer who nevar saw some good pvp and nevar play it on some tactics or set up`s on char who nevar care it to make his char totaly rdy for pvp or where evar nevar spend a coins for his char u are dude just simple rerroler on evry fu cking moon so wont badow to explan u more coz if u know it someting about this servers u will know it how many nerf`s boosts we have it till now in this 6-7 years of exsisting on this server so probobly that why u cant see what mean someting OP what mean something week. before this sh1t of kamaels i must say we have it the most balanced pvp ever bin in this 7 years and i must say was grate but as i see futher of l2 will be just for cancel whore`s not for ppl who injoy in pvp and we have only ppl who want pvp not cancelwhore`s so if server not adupte on ppl who are keeping him alove will be dead server
cya around and spam more to protect the lame destoers of the server
Quote from: 0l3j on June 10, 2011, 09:00:21 AM
First of all not all sps are ee i am f/e sps/es, and there lot of sws.
Sps is here form the foking beginig, and NOW you cry bout his cancel ? give me a break, whos noob here.
I dont make screens of every fight and conversation like some tards do, dont need to prove anything to anyone :)
Rly grow up, cancel alone will never win pvp, but i'm sure you never played paper sps so its easy to say.
Oh another tard that never played the char but he knows all bout this.
Zerks ud works only for p def, so mages still rape him at that time, deflect arrow added with little m def bonus, work 10 seconds, this prahnah thingy give ud only to magic, so archers still can rape.
If they manage to keep him constantly alive, good for them realyy good,
But now you're saying shjts , I just said i ont like kiteing as mage, coz i'm rather slow, and you came up form nowhere with Kamalol. You're some psycho? You see Kamalols every corner in every pvp? Coz lately i see less Kamalols, we're still in archers era, and theres is hell of them, but we're nowhere to be in Kamalols era, they're just few, and if you cant deal with them, rly learn how to lose without crying at least.
These are not facts you tell ppl, just crys, nothing more, the whole point is you need to be prepared for kamalols, prepared for quick rbf in the middle of pvp especialy, for me this add more exciment to pvp, if i need to constantly watch m ybuff to see if something didnt disappear form there, get used to it already, if not rly leave server...
Ok i will not bother with more answers,coz you're just not reformable, want to cry bout one skill that own you, so be it.
u are kicked by him every days malaka , and Dule english whore !!!!! :D
haters gona hate, cryes gona cry
I just have fun and play, you can go and die
Thats it folks :*
Quote from: 0l3j on June 10, 2011, 11:33:34 AM
haters gona hate, cryes gona cry
I just have fun and play, you can go and die
Thats it folks :*
I don't think that u can have fun in a clan that u cant barely talk in ally chat if they do not allow u .-. (Just a comment)
Have fun
Quote from: seboulba on June 10, 2011, 11:26:28 AM
u are kicked by him every days malaka , and Dule english whore !!!!! :D
we discuss about game or we have olympiad of literature ?
Quote from: Neozinhu on June 10, 2011, 11:49:31 AM
I don't think that u can have fun in a clan that u cant barely talk in ally chat if they do not allow u .-. (Just a comment)
Have fun
And whats that suppose to mean ? Mby dont think to much it will hurt your head. Yes i have quite fun in clan, jelous or somethin ?
Quote from: 0l3j on June 10, 2011, 12:20:51 PM
And whats that suppose to mean ? Mby dont think to much it will hurt your head. Yes i have quite fun in clan, jelous or somethin ?
U know "whats that suppose to mean" ... if i'm not wrong ...u're member of the clan who cant say "no" to clan leader, even if the decision is wrong, or no cookies right? ;D
No...i'm not jealous about it...bcuz i always could say my opinion in clan...instead of "omg, clan leader said, so i have to do".
And try harder...that cheap flame "Mby dont think to much it will hurt your head" is already used many times, try smth new.
(Topic will be closed soon)
You know nothing bout my clan, so spare me this shjts.
Sry i'm not mark, my creativity in flaming is low, i just call retards, retards nothing more.
this is how looks Track when he read that thread...
(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/3600/0af9ad60a24c.gif) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/0af9ad60a24c.gif/)
:D :D :D
Quote from: Evolution on June 10, 2011, 04:39:45 PM
this is how looks Track when he read that thread...
(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/3600/0af9ad60a24c.gif) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/0af9ad60a24c.gif/)
:D :D :D
xD
ahaha +1 yes xD
we're just little spammers xD
Quote from: Kastro on June 10, 2011, 11:20:41 AM
As i can see this dude have nevar be vs few kamaels in same time who assit on eachther and use 2-3 steal divinity what`s mean u lost 80% of ur buffs what`s mean u allready are on targets on some dps what`s mean u are instantly dead .2nd dancers songer can resong/dance 1 max 2 times if they are not dead coz noone have unlimited mana to over song for 1 guy all time but what i`m trying to explan for a retard guy who nevar know what`s mean kamael klas is new and nevar was in the world of gm`s to be fix it on land skills like outher rase`s and to tell u just for ur info dude cancel got fix how should work chance and random buffs from 1 to 5 but ofc u are to retard lamer who nevar saw some good pvp and nevar play it on some tactics or set up`s on char who nevar care it to make his char totaly rdy for pvp or where evar nevar spend a coins for his char u are dude just simple rerroler on evry fu cking moon so wont badow to explan u more coz if u know it someting about this servers u will know it how many nerf`s boosts we have it till now in this 6-7 years of exsisting on this server so probobly that why u cant see what mean someting OP what mean something week. before this sh1t of kamaels i must say we have it the most balanced pvp ever bin in this 7 years and i must say was grate but as i see futher of l2 will be just for cancel whore`s not for ppl who injoy in pvp and we have only ppl who want pvp not cancelwhore`s so if server not adupte on ppl who are keeping him alove will be dead server
cya around and spam more to protect the lame destoers of the server
Well that's remember me cryes of some years ago about crit rate of sps. The only thing to do was to learn how to buff (r.water, elemental resist, dance, song etc etc).
I don't know rly that skill, coz i'm playing since 1 week maybe, but i met kamael on oly and that chars seems rly Op, but i think on mass pvp u can do smt against that skill, like use right buffs against cancel, make daggers assist on kamael and i think they can't do so much :P
Quote from: Fui on June 11, 2011, 11:32:19 PM
Well that's remember me cryes of some years ago about crit rate of sps. The only thing to do was to learn how to buff (r.water, elemental resist, dance, song etc etc).
I don't know rly that skill, coz i'm playing since 1 week maybe, but i met kamael on oly and that chars seems rly Op, but i think on mass pvp u can do smt against that skill, like use right buffs against cancel, make daggers assist on kamael and i think they can't do so much :P
hehhe, tell me precioux, wich are the right buffs vs cancel? ;D vs removing 6-7buffs every 6-8 seconds? :D
Quote from: Lemarc on June 11, 2011, 11:47:31 PM
hehhe, tell me precioux, wich are the right buffs vs cancel? ;D vs removing 6-7buffs every 6-8 seconds? :D
Steal never worked like that, reuse in 6-8 wasn't possible even on full buff. And sps/ee is hard to kill char with good heal, kamael was weak, no heal, low dmg.
but.....
GZ ALL CRYERS, kamael now sux, steal useless, getting 10k+ from archer, dmg still sux, death mark not works.... I heard on our gracia all should be like official, so why all is close to off, but kamaels steal nerfed ? Because few cryers have more to say than others ? Track said something like "steal is nerfed coz it was like who have more kamael winning". Yes, it is something close to truth in this. Same like who have more healers, active wc, etc. We had 2-3 active kamaels on actions in AoD, similar like temps - and for us it was no problem opponents stealed our buffs - we have active buffers to rebuff during fight. I guess temps had similar situation. So who has problem with kamaels ? some clans with buffers on bot, only dd and healer... yes, they can't handle fight against kamaels... I played and saw pvp on gracia and freya servers - constant parties, rebuffing during pvp - this is where official lineage go. More classes, more skills to use, more solutions against opponents.... and tactic. And looks like we will still here play like: full buff, strong archers, few hits and run.... booooring.
Stfu! Only blinds couldn't see that if things would stay like they where server was running towards ruin!!
Kamaels can't stay like l2off cause this is not l2off server! As i said b4 this is dn costom sub server!
GG Track!
Yea costum sub so there is much more buffers than on oficial and ppl still cry about kamaels...
GZ cryers, admins start nerfing chars even before fixing more important things, like sub switching
Quote from: Javardsnegger on June 12, 2011, 07:08:07 PM
Stfu! Only blinds couldn't see that if things would stay like they where server was running towards ruin!!
Kamaels can't stay like l2off cause this is not l2off server! As i said b4 this is dn costom sub server!
GG Track!
Omg, kamaels almost ruined serv, coz few players can't handle new situation, they are still in c4 times, and "don't change nothing dear Track or we will leave ! I forgot to say: we did a lot for this server and we are your friends so u have to nerf kamaels !!! "
Thats how things works here.... And Kamaels was killing server.... buhahahahah...