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Title: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: qwertyzxc on July 12, 2011, 07:54:11 PM
At start i just ask its possible to failed any kind of cancel  on enemy  ? ( i mean cancel 0 buffs or just 1/2 ... )  Becouse as i notice  everytime  on olympiad or pvp DA or SPS canceling me 5 or more buffs/pots ...

My char have like 2 skills what "SHOULD" resist for cancel type attack the first:

1)Chant of Spirit    Cancel resistance +30%, Debuff resistance +20%  info from   http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/buffstats  but here on nm its say just +20 not 20% mby its same but i dont know becouse on others skills say 20% for example and there not.

screen from pmfun.com  ---->>>>> (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6664/cancel1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/cancel1.jpg/)

screen from our server  ---->>>>>(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2843/cancel3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/cancel3.jpg/)

2) zealot lvl 3 - resistance to canceling attacks by 40% / and 80% by debuffs attacks    screen  ---->>>(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9200/cancel2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/cancel2.jpg/)


3) cov ( Chant of Victory )  should add Critical +20%, Critical Damage +20%,  and its not increase critical attack rate

screen from pmfun.com   --->>>>  (http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4048/covq.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/covq.jpg/)

screen ingame  w/o cov ---->>>>  (http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1254/cov1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/cov1.jpg/)
screen ingame with cov  ---->>>>(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4458/cov2b.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/cov2b.jpg/)

So zealot should give + 40 %  resist canceling buffs  + chant od spirit + 20 % canceling buffs attack and why i cant resist just 1 cancel or this cancels dont pick me lower number of buffs just always is 5 or more ?

Also why Chant of Victory dont add Critical attack rate ? Why Bison totem dont give +30% P.atk when hp is under 30% and give only 19% ? Why Bison dont give + 300 Crt.rate when hp is under 30% and give just + 113 Crt.rate ?    PS. NERF MORE ORCS WE ARE SO OP ATM ...

Thanks.
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: Crazzyyhuhuh on July 12, 2011, 07:59:08 PM
QQ hard times are changing you canot win  always  see now how is it to be raped :D
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: qwertyzxc on July 12, 2011, 08:03:02 PM
Quote from: Crazzyyhuhuh on July 12, 2011, 07:59:08 PM
QQ hard times are changing you canot win  always  see now how is it to be raped :D

and tell me when i was can win all ? on HB i cant win any pal/archer who have any idea how to use this chars same vs wl/pal   vs good sps/ee also was hard so stop say bullshits thx :]


no point :]  anyway i cant win now becouse im playing with 2 or 3k hp becouse olympiad dont restore hp/mp and its unplayable atm for orcs but track say this one will be changed "soon" so its ok for me :]

The point is we have buffs for ressit cancel attack and its not work or work like big shit ....     like 2 weeks ago i got - 13 buffs from  sps 1 cancel it is normal ? and reuse of cancel isnt so long so 2 x and - 26 buffs ?


about bison totem bug u can see  from this screens ---->>>>

(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/9803/aaacsz.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/aaacsz.jpg/)
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: VforVanilla on July 12, 2011, 10:29:57 PM
For bison you are right and maybe for cancel resist also as i fail to understand how is possible to loose all time 5 buffs when i have more than 10 buffs even when i use exciting adventure which reduce cancel land rate by 90%... As for Cov i said already that is typo bug. You get +20% critical damage and not critical rate.
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: 0ScUMR on July 12, 2011, 10:33:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGPvoNBGiy0&feature=related
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: Ashlynn on July 12, 2011, 10:34:52 PM
(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2843/cancel3.jpg)

just like the PM you send says.... "time to open qq topic"!  :D :D
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: qwertyzxc on July 12, 2011, 10:47:42 PM
yea its qq topic but i show u all screenshots how it should work and how it work so ? its not just qq topic  i uploaded screenshots with proofs so gtfo


i tested now  on olympiad cancel and i was fight 3 x vs krd0 2 x vs da i was using zealot + chant of spirit   and next fight i dont use it and in all fights i got every cancel ( dosnt metter from da or sps ) - 5 buffs  so its bugged for sure

its impossible resist cancle its 100% remove 5 buffs so please Track check it and fix or cancel should remove 5 buff each and there is no against this skill ? reuse is 10 sec ? 15 ?   


and yes i notice same if i have 10 buffs or more itc remove 5 each when im like 5 bufs i got remove like 2/3  so if ur full buffed or have 10+ buffs/pots/dance/song  u have removed 5 x and u can have all kind of resist.


better fix this stupid skills then remove masteries what give only dmg its better then playing in 10 seconds from 20 buffs with 0 xD
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: Alex on July 12, 2011, 10:55:09 PM
why dont u post that in track's topic
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: WindWalk on July 12, 2011, 11:01:35 PM
As COV buff tells (the description of the buff) :

add 20% to rate of the critical attack, there is no information about critical rate.
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: zenice on July 13, 2011, 11:34:36 AM
BUMP to fix resist cancel skills...
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: Defoe on July 13, 2011, 12:16:44 PM
you should stop use pmfun.com, since many things there just to old. Also you know nothing about  how those ressist should work,  but made this topic.

Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: cerebelo on July 13, 2011, 01:20:42 PM
Quote from: 0ScUMR on July 12, 2011, 10:33:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGPvoNBGiy0&feature=related

2 more hours and i will finish watching  your video ....
next one  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LKHpM1UeDA

after that i must get some sleep
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: Silent Silin on July 13, 2011, 02:07:52 PM
tell us how to use resist cancel bufs then :D

white talisman of protection also dont help. Cancel reuse can be 2 seconds (tested)
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: Defoe on July 13, 2011, 02:51:59 PM
Quote from: Silent Silin on July 13, 2011, 02:07:52 PM
tell us how to use resist cancel bufs then :D

white talisman of protection also dont help. Cancel reuse can be 2 seconds (tested)
you can decrease chance get canceled some important buffs (i dont mean buffing at olly all posible buffs if you for example th/pp or ty/wc) but for this you should know atleast basic cancel mechanic. Anyway this wont help  against 2 sec cancel reuse.
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: qwertyzxc on July 13, 2011, 04:06:21 PM
Quote from: Defoe on July 13, 2011, 02:51:59 PM
you can decrease chance get canceled some important buffs (i dont mean buffing at olly all posible buffs if you for example th/pp or ty/wc) but for this you should know atleast basic cancel mechanic. Anyway this wont help  against 2 sec cancel reuse.



oh i see ur so pro player lineage 2 !  if buffs say they ressit cancel so should resist and 40 % + 20 % + talismans its rly big chance but at 10 cancels i got 10 x canceled 5 buffs so stop spam how pro you are and tell us how should work  ressit cancel  mr pro player.

its buff say ressit canceling attacks by 40% it should resist.

ALso - 11 bufs from 1 cancel is ok for u also i think :D

kamaels was picking xxxx bufs and they got nerf so now this cancels from da/sps/sorc should got cancel or just cenecling buffs by chance 0-5  not 100% 5 buffs eacyh and dont care what ressit u use against cancel
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: Crazzyyhuhuh on July 13, 2011, 04:18:31 PM
auuu i see many many tears  listen ppl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0

speacialy to hardstyle

and what we need now you wanted official style here is IT Enyoj IT!
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: wildpussy on July 13, 2011, 05:21:41 PM
Quote from: Defoe on July 13, 2011, 02:51:59 PM
you can decrease chance get canceled some important buffs (i dont mean buffing at olly all posible buffs if you for example th/pp or ty/wc) but for this you should know atleast basic cancel mechanic. Anyway this wont help  against 2 sec cancel reuse.

skill enchant? the only thing that have really low chance to be removed as i saw is my +10 pow
so we need +30 on all skills to resist cancel ?\... while cancel resist buffs are pretty much broken (they just dont work or give some lol effect which we obviously dont understand)
when you have 20+ buffs it's always -5, you can have all resist things you wanna
p.s. lionhart: increases resistance to buff canceling attacks by 80% - and again -5

kamaels got that buff steal nerf, so can't see why some sps who is still more than playable without cancel won't get same some day
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: qwertyzxc on July 13, 2011, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: Crazzyyhuhuh on July 13, 2011, 04:18:31 PM
auuu i see many many tears  listen ppl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0

speacialy to hardstyle

and what we need now you wanted official style here is IT Enyoj IT!


i want official ? are u "crazy"  ? :|
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: Ivenn0 on July 13, 2011, 06:25:39 PM
Quote from: qwertyzxc on July 13, 2011, 05:29:04 PM

i want official ? are u "crazy"  ? :|
hard I want say only this that GM's forget about warior classes at nightmare
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: qwertyzxc on July 13, 2011, 06:28:01 PM
Quote from: Ivenn0 on July 13, 2011, 06:25:39 PM
hard I want say only this that GM's forget about warior classes at nightmare

now all dagers/ archers have 500 crt rate and 2 x more p aatck then orcs or glads its funny :D  always my orc was on 500 crt rate now full bufed with certyficates is 334 ! when archers /daggers got 500 easy xD
Title: Re: resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf
Post by: Defoe on July 13, 2011, 06:55:50 PM
Quote from: qwertyzxc on July 13, 2011, 04:06:21 PM

oh i see ur so pro player lineage 2 !  if buffs say they ressit cancel so should resist and 40 % + 20 % + talismans its rly big chance but at 10 cancels i got 10 x canceled 5 buffs so stop spam how pro you are and tell us how should work  ressit cancel  mr pro player.

for some convo about cancel resists, you should  have (there are much more things) atealst this:
1. basic cancel resist chance ( from wich you starting calculation)
2.some mathematic knowledge (atleast school)
and guess what?- you have problems with both.  I'm rly loled HOW you working with % and  some unknown number (for you) and telling that: " it's rly big chance"
Quote from: qwertyzxc on July 13, 2011, 04:06:21 PM
ALso - 11 bufs from 1 cancel is ok for u also i think :D

kamaels was picking xxxx bufs and they got nerf so now this cancels from da/sps/sorc should got cancel or just cenecling buffs by chance 0-5  not 100% 5 buffs eacyh and dont care what ressit u use against cancel
Corect me if I'm wrong, but topic  about "resist cs cancel type debuf dont work or wtf" not "whine about cancel"
Quote from: wildpussy on July 13, 2011, 05:21:41 PM
skill enchant? the only thing that have really low chance to be removed as i saw is my +10 pow
so we need +30 on all skills to resist cancel ?\... while cancel resist buffs are pretty much broken (they just dont work or give some lol effect which we obviously dont understand)
when you have 20+ buffs it's always -5, you can have all resist things you wanna
p.s. lionhart: increases resistance to buff canceling attacks by 80% - and again -5

kamaels got that buff steal nerf, so can't see why some sps who is still more than playable without cancel won't get same some day
not only this.