I have noticed that cancel resist is working now. I have question: does resist cancel works also against pvp daggers/fists?
Kufeliusz
Quote from: Kufeliusz on September 13, 2011, 12:29:26 AM
I have noticed that cancel resist is working now. I have question: does resist cancel works also against pvp daggers/fists?
Kufeliusz
its a shit its still not work ... i buff my ass with 2 buffs resist cancel and try 10-15 x cancel and always lose -5 buffs each cancel ...
I assume that by shit you mean cancel resist. I have tested that resist yesterday with my friend des/wc. I used cancel 5 times and results were: 0 buff, 0 buff, 1 buff, 1 buff, 2 buffs canceled each time.
Kufeliusz
Quote from: qwertyzxc on September 13, 2011, 05:33:35 AM
its a shit its still not work ... i buff my ass with 2 buffs resist cancel and try 10-15 x cancel and always lose -5 buffs each cancel ...
You are from Mars then, i tested and it works quite nice.
Yeap resist works now but still i am not sure if cancel should cancel all time 5 buffs when you have more than 10 buff or cancel randomly 1-5 buffs whenever you have only 5 buff remaining or 20.
Quote from: mark_elesse on September 13, 2011, 01:26:55 PM
just tested arcane protection - EE skill ( 30-50% cancel resist, idk exactly ) tried 17 cancel, took 5 buffs all the time :(
Sorry i dont understand Marsian .
Quote from: TrackZero on September 13, 2011, 01:40:33 PM
Sorry i dont understand Marsian .
sux that we all play on mars, and you make tests.. dunno where :P
Quote from: TrackZero on September 13, 2011, 01:40:33 PM
Sorry i dont understand Marsian .
rlz which part u dont understand of this ?
i try to help u, but its wont be easy
arcana protection >>> http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/skill/c105/elf-evasaint.html (Temporarily increases resistance to buff cancel and debuff attack. Effect 3) http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/skill/c112/darkelf-shilliensaint.html (same effect) both should be same as chant of spirit http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/skill/c116/orc-doomcryer.html (same effect)
tried 17 cancel >> he target himself with and sps/sorcerer and used cancel (for be sure u understand this part use this http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/skill/c27/elf-spellsinger.html at lvl 48 u find skill called cancellation, this is same for sorcerer if u want i can copy it for u aswell ) skill 17 times
took 5 buffs all the time >> yes its amazing 17times its took 5 buffs, if u still dont udnerstand this part he lost 5 of his buffs cos of cancel
incredible i hope ihelped to understand pretty easy english sentence, u can always ask me for some more help.
ps i didnt tested myself yet will do in few hours i just help u to understand our language from Mars
Quote from: mark_elesse on September 13, 2011, 01:26:55 PM
just tested arcane protection - EE skill ( 30-50% cancel resist, idk exactly ) tried 17 cancel, took 5 buffs all the time :(
Somehow works. Do this simple test:
Have only 10 buff on every cancel you try no more. If not arcane protection all time i loose 5 buff. With arcane i loose 2-5. So it does something :P
Quote from: ylim on September 13, 2011, 01:55:36 PM
rlz which part u dont understand of this ?
i try to help u, but its wont be easy
arcana protection >>> http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/skill/c105/elf-evasaint.html (Temporarily increases resistance to buff cancel and debuff attack. Effect 3) http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/skill/c112/darkelf-shilliensaint.html (same effect) both should be same as chant of spirit http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/skill/c116/orc-doomcryer.html (same effect)
tried 17 cancel >> he target himself with and sps/sorcerer and used cancel (for be sure u understand this part use this http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/skill/c27/elf-spellsinger.html at lvl 48 u find skill called cancellation, this is same for sorcerer if u want i can copy it for u aswell ) skill 17 times
took 5 buffs all the time >> yes its amazing 17times its took 5 buffs, if u still dont udnerstand this part he lost 5 of his buffs cos of cancel
incredible i hope ihelped to understand pretty easy english sentence, u can always ask me for some more help.
ps i didnt tested myself yet will do in few hours i just help u to understand our language from Mars
Tôi vẫn không hiểu chết tiệt
Quote from: qwertyzxc on September 13, 2011, 05:33:35 AM
its a shit its still not work ... i buff my ass with 2 buffs resist cancel and try 10-15 x cancel and always lose -5 buffs each cancel ...
thats why u doing wrong :D
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so i made my test now with arcane prot
canellation (sps) - i dont have sorcerer but its should be kinda same - all test made with 20 try
i have 10 or less buf and used arcane prot >>> removed 1-3 buff
i have 10 or less buf and not used arcane prot >> removed 4-5 buff
i ahve more then 10buff no matter if i used arcane prot or not >> removed 5 buff
dagger {PVP} cancel >> no matter how many buff u have and what ressist u use its randomly remove buffs
also i didnt tested it with chant of spirit i will do it ltr but its should be same effect as arcane prot so if its diffrent than something foked
as u can see from the test arcane prot give a small ammount of protection against cancel only if u have less then 10buff. but who play with less then 10buff ? mby its usefull on oly....
anyway i rly dont know how its should work, or its ok like this, i just post how its work atm.
Quote from: ylim on September 13, 2011, 03:16:10 PM
so i made my test now with arcane prot
canellation (sps) - i dont have sorcerer but its should be kinda same - all test made with 20 try
i have 10 or less buf and used arcane prot >>> removed 1-3 buff
i have 10 or less buf and not used arcane prot >> removed 4-5 buff
i ahve more then 10buff no matter if i used arcane prot or not >> removed 5 buff
dagger {PVP} cancel >> no matter how many buff u have and what ressist u use its randomly remove buffs
also i didnt tested it with chant of spirit i will do it ltr but its should be same effect as arcane prot so if its diffrent than something foked
as u can see from the test arcane prot give a small ammount of protection against cancel only if u have less then 10buff. but who play with less then 10buff ? mby its usefull on oly....
anyway i rly dont know how its should work, or its ok like this, i just post how its work atm.
if u have more then 10 buffs/song/dance its dosnt matter what resist u have and its 100% - 5 buffs even if u use arcana + chant of spirit .... so pls dont tell me its work becouse when i had before 5 buffs its also was canceling like 1-2 the problem is if ur full buffed its 100% - 5 buffs and u can have xxxxx resist cancel buffs ...
ps. Dunno where you made this test mby on Saturn if we are on Mars ... :|
Quote from: qwertyzxc on September 13, 2011, 03:43:55 PM
if u have more then 10 buffs/song/dance its dosnt matter what resist u have and its 100% - 5 buffs even if u use arcana + chant of spirit .... so pls dont tell me its work becouse when i had before 5 buffs its also was canceling like 1-2 the problem is if ur full buffed its 100% - 5 buffs and u can have xxxxx resist cancel buffs ...
ps. Dunno where you made this test mby on Saturn if we are on Mars ... :|
You did some magic and you could use together those two buffs that doesn't stuck :P? Anyway i did also test with 20 buffs and open 2 times Exciting adventure (90% resist, Reuse sucks :P) and was removing 1-3 buffs. One time cancel failed and removed nothing.
Quote from: qwertyzxc on September 13, 2011, 03:43:55 PM
if u have more then 10 buffs/song/dance its dosnt matter what resist u have and its 100% - 5 buffs even if u use arcana + chant of spirit .... so pls dont tell me its work becouse when i had before 5 buffs its also was canceling like 1-2 the problem is if ur full buffed its 100% - 5 buffs and u can have xxxxx resist cancel buffs ...
ps. Dunno where you made this test mby on Saturn if we are on Mars ... :|
dunno why u quote me with this post cos i exactly said the same with 10+ buff 40/40 -5buff
fail again with this sh1t... just nerf cancel to 1min+ reuse and all will be happy
Quote from: VforVanilla on September 13, 2011, 04:01:33 PM
You did some magic and you could use together those two buffs that doesn't stuck :P? Anyway i did also test with 20 buffs and open 2 times Exciting adventure (90% resist, Reuse sucks :P) and was removing 1-3 buffs. One time cancel failed and removed nothing.
90% resist and still cancel 3 buffs jeje nice resist works :D
Quote from: cthon on September 13, 2011, 05:22:20 PM
fail again with this sh1t... just nerf cancel to 1min+ reuse and all will be happy
maybe remove cancel (sps and sorcer class from game ) and still u wont be happy XD
all the time same fighter ask to nerf mage char
but when people ask for dagger or archer, all the time same shiit like u need to learn how buff ur char
Quote from: ylim on September 13, 2011, 03:16:10 PM
so i made my test now with arcane prot
canellation (sps) - i dont have sorcerer but its should be kinda same - all test made with 20 try
i have 10 or less buf and used arcane prot >>> removed 1-3 buff
i have 10 or less buf and not used arcane prot >> removed 4-5 buff
i ahve more then 10buff no matter if i used arcane prot or not >> removed 5 buff
dagger {PVP} cancel >> no matter how many buff u have and what ressist u use its randomly remove buffs
also i didnt tested it with chant of spirit i will do it ltr but its should be same effect as arcane prot so if its diffrent than something foked
as u can see from the test arcane prot give a small ammount of protection against cancel only if u have less then 10buff. but who play with less then 10buff ? mby its usefull on oly....
anyway i rly dont know how its should work, or its ok like this, i just post how its work atm.
as I know a chance to cancel buff cant be less then 25 % (even if you got 3rd class buff enchanted +15 and all resists), so with big amount buffs you geting somth like this .
p.s. about % chance i'm not sure for 100% coz i wont looking for cancelation ressist formula.
Quote from: Defoe on September 13, 2011, 08:11:48 PM
as I know a chance to cancel buff cant be less then 25 % (even if you got 3rd class buff enchanted +15 and all resists), so with big amount buffs you geting somth like this .
p.s. about % chance i'm not sure for 100% coz i wont looking for cancelation ressist formula.
chant of spirit and arcana give a shit .... but if i use hero zerk ,,, its help but this two buffs dont resisist even 1 buff less cancels
i think there cancel is coded smth like this:
for each buff:
if randomnumber < cancel_chance do remove buff and counter++
if counter =5 then stop
so this way more buffs, means more tests made, more chances to get buff removed, resist decreses cacnel_chance value
but we all want it to wroks something like this:
for i= 1 to 5 do
if randomnumber < cancel_chance do remove random_buff
this way max tests are 5 and do not depend on number of buffs, but still can be remoevd max 5 buffs
GM said all is OK , xxxxxxx PPL said cancel is "same old sh1t" . Who is the liar ?
Quote from: joroboro on September 14, 2011, 09:39:17 PM
GM said all is OK , xxxxxxx PPL said cancel is "same old sh1t" . Who is the liar ?
u r from Mars too, u r idiot gtfo :>
Quote from: ylim on September 15, 2011, 08:24:59 AM
u r from Mars too, u r idiot gtfo :>
do not be parrot and assliker - just answer on question
Quote from: joroboro on September 15, 2011, 10:49:40 AM
do not be parrot and assliker - just answer on question
U don't rly know the word sarcasm right?
Quote from: joroboro on September 15, 2011, 10:49:40 AM
do not be parrot and assliker - just answer on question
u just show that u r rly dumb, if u would read this topic carefull u would see what i wrote about cancel before, including my test with that skill and with ressist buff.
also if u wouldnt be so closemind ********* than u would notice irony in my words :-*
I read your last replay ;D - you are right ... but nvm just keep topic UP