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Title: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: andreww on October 14, 2011, 11:05:07 PM
- Double checked focus death and focus power skills , they got reported not working correctly. They work 100% as on official , so there was no "nerf" on those as it was reported.


1 st u nerf use 45% and after u say its compleely normal

2nd yes lets keep mage the full ud benefit ,anty way i dont know your resourse track but its totaly retarded,daggers cabt do a freaking thing on mass and on oly

this server is a joke
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: Peorexo on October 14, 2011, 11:08:12 PM
U behavior is a joke, if all have gear similar to u, now ur sending a crap ? Dude focus death work correclty and here is a problem, cuz when u hit tank u wont hit much, but for all other charactes dmg will be insane. Just learn to play and if u cant win, camp.
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on October 14, 2011, 11:20:55 PM
Quote from: andreww on October 14, 2011, 11:05:07 PM
- Double checked focus death and focus power skills , they got reported not working correctly. They work 100% as on official , so there was no "nerf" on those as it was reported.


1 st u nerf use 45% and after u say its compleely normal

2nd yes lets keep mage the full ud benefit ,anty way i dont know your resourse track but its totaly retarded,daggers cabt do a freaking thing on mass and on oly

this server is a joke
Uhm, okey i will ignore those insults and i dont understand where they are coming from, anyhow i said DOUBLE checked cause not only that i checked those skills, drake did too with me, to be more correct ill show u full effect of skill that is exactly as on official , so here you go ask someone to translate you:

Focus Death:

skill_begin   skill_name = [s_focus_death1]      skill_id = 355   level = 1   operate_type = A2   magic_level = 78   self_effect = {}   effect = {{p_critical_rate;{all};-30;per};{p_fatal_blow_rate;60;per};{p_critical_damage_position;front;-30;per};{p_critical_damage_position;back;90;per}}   end_effect = {}   operate_cond = {{equip_weapon;{dagger;dualdagger}}}   is_magic = 0   mp_consume2 = 36   cast_range = -1   effective_range = -1   skill_hit_time = 2   skill_cool_time = 0   skill_hit_cancel_time = 0.5   reuse_delay = 30   activate_rate = -1   lv_bonus_rate = 0   basic_property = none   abnormal_time = 120   abnormal_lv = 1   abnormal_type = focus_dagger   abnormal_instant = 0   irreplaceable_buff = 0   buff_protect_level = 0   attribute = {attr_none;0}   trait = {trait_none}   effect_point = 669   target_type = self   affect_scope = single   affect_limit = {0;0}   next_action = none   debuff = 0   ride_state = {@ride_none}   multi_class = 0   skill_end

Focus Power:

skill_begin   skill_name = [s_focus_power1]      skill_id = 357   level = 1   operate_type = A2   magic_level = 78   self_effect = {}   effect = {{p_critical_damage_position;front;-30;per};{p_critical_damage_position;side;30;per};{p_critical_damage_position;back;60;per}}   end_effect = {}   operate_cond = {{equip_weapon;{dagger;dualdagger}}}   is_magic = 0   mp_consume2 = 36   cast_range = -1   effective_range = -1   skill_hit_time = 2   skill_cool_time = 0   skill_hit_cancel_time = 0.5   reuse_delay = 30   activate_rate = -1   lv_bonus_rate = 0   basic_property = none   abnormal_time = 120   abnormal_lv = 1   abnormal_type = focus_dagger   abnormal_instant = 0   irreplaceable_buff = 0   buff_protect_level = 0   attribute = {attr_none;0}   trait = {trait_none}   effect_point = 669   target_type = self   affect_scope = single   affect_limit = {0;0}   next_action = none   debuff = 0   ride_state = {@ride_none}   multi_class = 0   skill_end

So i hope you will hate less and understand more in future, peace out.
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: Vargine on October 14, 2011, 11:36:38 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on October 14, 2011, 11:20:55 PM
Uhm, okey i will ignore those insults and i dont understand where they are coming from, anyhow i said DOUBLE checked cause not only that i checked those skills, drake did too with me, to be more correct ill show u full effect of skill that is exactly as on official , so here you go ask someone to translate you:

Focus Death:

skill_begin   skill_name = [s_focus_death1]      skill_id = 355   level = 1   operate_type = A2   magic_level = 78   self_effect = {}   effect = {{p_critical_rate;{all};-30;per};{p_fatal_blow_rate;60;per};{p_critical_damage_position;front;-30;per};{p_critical_damage_position;back;90;per}}   end_effect = {}   operate_cond = {{equip_weapon;{dagger;dualdagger}}}   is_magic = 0   mp_consume2 = 36   cast_range = -1   effective_range = -1   skill_hit_time = 2   skill_cool_time = 0   skill_hit_cancel_time = 0.5   reuse_delay = 30   activate_rate = -1   lv_bonus_rate = 0   basic_property = none   abnormal_time = 120   abnormal_lv = 1   abnormal_type = focus_dagger   abnormal_instant = 0   irreplaceable_buff = 0   buff_protect_level = 0   attribute = {attr_none;0}   trait = {trait_none}   effect_point = 669   target_type = self   affect_scope = single   affect_limit = {0;0}   next_action = none   debuff = 0   ride_state = {@ride_none}   multi_class = 0   skill_end

Focus Power:

skill_begin   skill_name = [s_focus_power1]      skill_id = 357   level = 1   operate_type = A2   magic_level = 78   self_effect = {}   effect = {{p_critical_damage_position;front;-30;per};{p_critical_damage_position;side;30;per};{p_critical_damage_position;back;60;per}}   end_effect = {}   operate_cond = {{equip_weapon;{dagger;dualdagger}}}   is_magic = 0   mp_consume2 = 36   cast_range = -1   effective_range = -1   skill_hit_time = 2   skill_cool_time = 0   skill_hit_cancel_time = 0.5   reuse_delay = 30   activate_rate = -1   lv_bonus_rate = 0   basic_property = none   abnormal_time = 120   abnormal_lv = 1   abnormal_type = focus_dagger   abnormal_instant = 0   irreplaceable_buff = 0   buff_protect_level = 0   attribute = {attr_none;0}   trait = {trait_none}   effect_point = 669   target_type = self   affect_scope = single   affect_limit = {0;0}   next_action = none   debuff = 0   ride_state = {@ride_none}   multi_class = 0   skill_end

So i hope you will hate less and understand more in future, peace out.


omg you nerfed this skills ??? or it's buged and give ~ +15% when should give 90 ???

n/c

and about biger power Focus Power > Focus Death    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH GRATZ

about DN effect:

FOCUS DEATH
Critical Power from back +15% ONLY FOR BLOWS SKILLS regural hits +90% (not 45 ;/ )

FOCUS POWER
Critical Power from back +30% ONLY FROM BLOWS SKILLS regural hits +60%

Track imo it's a little too much nerfed coz dagger style on OFF servers are totality different from us coz of Focus Death / Power nerf
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: flamingAwe on October 14, 2011, 11:50:32 PM
Quote from: Vargine on October 14, 2011, 11:36:38 PM

omg and you are GM on this server ??? you nerfed this skills ??? or it's buged and give ~ +15% when should give 90 ???

n/c

and about biger power Focus Power > Focus Death    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH GRATZ GREAT L2 KNOWLEDGE

about DN effect:

FOCUS DEATH
Critical Power from back +15% ONLY FOR BLOWS SKILLS regural hits +90% (not 45 ;/ )

FOCUS POWER
Critical Power from back +30% ONLY FROM BLOWS SKILLS regural hits +60%

Track imo it's a little too much nerfed coz dagger style on OFF servers are totality different from us coz of Focus Death / Power nerf

and what's wrong with those codes? imo as should be
maybe in game tests show something different?  screens ....
skillname-e.dat:
355   1   a,Focus Death\0   a,For 2 minutes, decreases one's own Critical attack rate by 30% and the Critical damage occurring at the front by 30%. Increases the probability of deadly attack by 60% and the Critical damage occurring at the rear by 90%. Requires a dagger to be equipped.\0   a,none\0   a,none\0
357   1   a,Focus Power\0   a,For 2 minutes, decreases the Critical attack damage occurring at one's front by 30%, and increases the Critical attack damage occurring at one's side by 30% and the Critical attack damage occurring at one's rear by 60%. Requires a dagger to be equipped.\0   a,none\0   a,none\0
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: Vargine on October 15, 2011, 12:01:35 AM
Quote from: flamingAwe on October 14, 2011, 11:50:32 PM
and what's wrong with those codes? imo as should be
maybe in game tests show something different?  screens ....
skillname-e.dat:
355   1   a,Focus Death\0   a,For 2 minutes, decreases one's own Critical attack rate by 30% and the Critical damage occurring at the front by 30%. Increases the probability of deadly attack by 60% and the Critical damage occurring at the rear by 90%. Requires a dagger to be equipped.\0   a,none\0   a,none\0
357   1   a,Focus Power\0   a,For 2 minutes, decreases the Critical attack damage occurring at one's front by 30%, and increases the Critical attack damage occurring at one's side by 30% and the Critical attack damage occurring at one's rear by 60%. Requires a dagger to be equipped.\0   a,none\0   a,none\0


i see awe you dont get it, i wont argue with you again on forum about skills and his counterparts on DN

"Just" log some dual and test dmg wo Focus Power/Death (Skills and regural hits) and with (Skills and regural hits)
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: flamingAwe on October 15, 2011, 12:15:52 AM
Quote from: Vargine on October 15, 2011, 12:01:35 AM

i see awe you dont get it, i wont argue with you again on forum about skills and his counterparts on DN

"Just" log some dual and test dmg wo Focus Power/Death (Skills and regural hits) and with (Skills and regural hits)

when brokie 1st time cryed about nerfed focus power i tested it on th... worked fine, so once again i ask, if nerf is in game, it doesnt' work as track writes? if so, where are screens?
PS: i won't log dagger and test myself... but if you want something to be changed, prove that it doesn't work as should. (for me code looks plausible)
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: entomb on October 15, 2011, 05:47:58 AM
I've been using focus power since i learned it and it works exactly as it should, and exactly as it worked on other servers i played.
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: chlipus on October 15, 2011, 11:31:16 AM
Quote from: andreww on October 14, 2011, 11:05:07 PM
- Double checked focus death and focus power skills , they got reported not working correctly. They work 100% as on official , so there was no "nerf" on those as it was reported.


1 st u nerf use 45% and after u say its compleely normal

2nd yes lets keep mage the full ud benefit ,anty way i dont know your resourse track but its totaly retarded,daggers cabt do a freaking thing on mass and on oly

this server is a joke

there is only one joke ofc you, i have rope for you pm me if you want xD
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: seboulba on October 15, 2011, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: entomb on October 15, 2011, 05:47:58 AM
I've been using focus power since i learned it and it works exactly as it should, and exactly as it worked on other servers i played.

Infinite nightmare
Reanimate > Bishop/Pala - fresh start!

RIP Shadow - GOK clan, EvilEmpire aliance
entomb > necro/Da //bishop
tombio  > necro/EE 

why u speak maggot ? i have pvp yesterday againts 1 pt mage of AOD(cant take another clan coz no one pvp exept them) tones of regen cp but nvm i was hitting those mage for 1k--->2k max while i hit a fighter for 2.5k-3k to put our skills as official im OK but put the rest too and not only one class
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: Luthor123 on October 15, 2011, 03:00:38 PM
Quote from: Vargine on October 14, 2011, 11:36:38 PM
FOCUS POWER
Critical Power from back +30% ONLY FROM BLOWS SKILLS regural hits +60%
Quote from: flamingAwe on October 14, 2011, 11:50:32 PM
and what's wrong with those codes? imo as should be
maybe in game tests show something different?  screens ....
skillname-e.dat:
3571a,Focus Power\0   a,For 2 minutes, decreases the Critical attack damage occurring at one's front by 30%, and increases the Critical attack damage occurring at one's side by 30% and the Critical attack damage occurring at one's rear by 60%.  Requires a dagger to be equipped.\0   a,none\0   a,none\0
It's kinda clear where's the difference...?
Rear:
Definition: The back or hindmost part; that which is behind, or last in order; opposed to front.
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: Luthor123 on October 15, 2011, 03:16:11 PM
Just tested focus power....
Average dmg of 50 NON RARE crit with backstab in the back of target:1873 damage WITHOUT FOCUS POWER.
Average dmg of 50 NON RARE crit with backstab in the back of target:2281 damage WITH FOCUS POWER +15!!!! +15!!!!


Average dmg of 50 NON RARE crit with backstab on the side of target:1844 damage WITHOUT FOCUS POWER.
Average dmg of 50 NON RARE crit with backstab on the side of target:1985 damage WITH FOCUS POWER +15!!!! +15!!!!

So....if we take the average of back damage and add to 1873 60% it is 2995 damage WITHOUT Rare crit w/o even counting the +15 skill enchantment....which should cause even higher amount of damage.
If we take the average of side damage and add to 1844 30% it is 2397 damage WITHOUT Rare crit w/o even counting the +15 skil enchantment which should cause even higher amount of damage.

I didn't test the hits ...didn't even bother cause it's clear to me.
Back damage with Focus power gives a bonus of 30%~ for the skills and like...6-7% from side...
That's not the way it should work....and i have no idea how rest tested it.
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: Luthor123 on October 15, 2011, 03:23:30 PM
For the info of the community and GM Stuff.
FOCUS POWER which i have is +15 POWER which should rise the REAR damage of skills by 70% not just 60 which isn't even 60 but 30 so if the enchantment works with+0 it would be like 20% of bonus damage from BACK ,or it doesn't even work at all and gives only 30% from the skill which is wrong also....
Hitting from the back and sides is the meaning of being dagger class...i don't get it why make dagger if you can't have this advantage...can make some other fighter like glad and deal more dmg on targets.
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: Peorexo on October 15, 2011, 03:29:01 PM
Re, in gracia it work like that, u make blow (all blows are critical) but dmg for each blow will increase by half of power of skill, i mean if focus power gives 60% after normal skill u will get 30% boost, but if u make double critical hit, then ur damage is increased by 60% :P
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: Vargine on October 15, 2011, 03:35:46 PM
The real description of Focus Power

MP Consume: 36
Effect Point: 669
Magic Lvl: 78
Weapons allowed: Dagger, Dual Dagger
Target: Self (TARGET_SELF)
Reuse Delay: 30000
Hit Time: 2000
Skill Type: BUFF
Operate Type: Active (OP_ACTIVE)
Aggro Points: 669

Effect Name: Buff
Total Time: 120 (1 Times x 120 seconds.)
        Multiplies Crit. Atk by 0.7
        Multiplies Crit. Atk by 1.3
        Multiplies Crit. Atk by 1.6

Focus Power +15 Power
For 2 minutes, decreases frontal Critical Damage by 30%. Increases side Critical Damage by 30% and rear Critical Damage by 70%. Requires a dagger. Enchant Power: Enhances the skill's effect.
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: VforVanilla on October 15, 2011, 04:24:09 PM
Guys Track's file is ok. Those skills probably are handled outside skilldata.txt as there is no way to tell in skilldata if is simple critical hit give full 60-90% damage bonus and if is dagger skill give xx% damage bonus. BUT for sure got nerfed recently. Focus death in the beginning of GF was giving behind bonus with skill +45% and now is about +30%.
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: flamingAwe on October 15, 2011, 04:58:28 PM
Quote from: Luthor123 on October 15, 2011, 03:00:38 PM
It's kinda clear where's the difference...?
Rear:
Definition: The back or hindmost part; that which is behind, or last in order; opposed to front.

I know you are another "best dagger"... but
show  any source, where it's said there is any effect difference for skills and for normal hits for those skills
track's code, skillname.dat, vargine's l2j site, all give same description for this skill
so IF there is nerf, nerf is in dagger blows, not in these buffs
and mr pro, when you write +15 skill (you must have been masturnbating at it, so missed rest). add what enchant way it is...
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: violetpl on October 15, 2011, 05:53:54 PM
spam more and mby we have skils like on off  ;D
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on October 15, 2011, 06:44:56 PM
Only relevant site is lineage2.com and we all know they give no numbers only description, SO , all outside site info you are getting can be very very wrong and we cant really base our code on them, we got what off have and how they made it gf/freya, so those info you wrote above from l2j russian site can be very much wrong, however if we nerfed anything i have no problems at all to tell you about , thats why i was shocked when i heard it and even ask drake if he did it without telling me but he touched nothing too (can even see when file is modified ) so i really dont know what are you trying to proof here, im just saying we nrfed nothing.
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: Luthor123 on October 15, 2011, 06:56:10 PM
Quote from: flamingAwe on October 15, 2011, 04:58:28 PM
I know you are another "best dagger"... but
show  any source, where it's said there is any effect difference for skills and for normal hits for those skills
track's code, skillname.dat, vargine's l2j site, all give same description for this skill
so IF there is nerf, nerf is in dagger blows, not in these buffs
and mr pro, when you write +15 skill (you must have been masturnbating at it, so missed rest). add what enchant way it is...
I wrote what enchant it is ,maybe open your eyes.:*
You must have been mastrubating while thinking how to flame me.  :-X

Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: Vargine on October 15, 2011, 08:05:35 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on October 15, 2011, 06:44:56 PM
Only relevant site is lineage2.com and we all know they give no numbers only description, SO , all outside site info you are getting can be very very wrong and we cant really base our code on them, we got what off have and how they made it gf/freya, so those info you wrote above from l2j russian site can be very much wrong, however if we nerfed anything i have no problems at all to tell you about , thats why i was shocked when i heard it and even ask drake if he did it without telling me but he touched nothing too (can even see when file is modified ) so i really dont know what are you trying to proof here, im just saying we nrfed nothing.

1) "Drake" is a mystic creation created  to releases the blame for a fatal policy of our server he is like GOD there is no proof for his exist but still somebody belive :P
2) It's not nerfed ? so why it's not working properly ?
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: flamingAwe on October 15, 2011, 10:13:11 PM
Quote from: Luthor123 on October 15, 2011, 06:56:10 PM
I wrote what enchant it is ,maybe open your eyes.:*
You must have been mastrubating while thinking how to flame me.  :-X



even with your dumb double posting you didn't write which way you have, you just point that some +15 must have +70% crit damage... but i bet, as always,  you did shit and enchanted for  side bonus....
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: Luthor123 on October 15, 2011, 10:37:55 PM
Quote from: Luthor123 on October 15, 2011, 03:23:30 PM
FOCUS POWER which i have is +15 POWER which should rise the REAR damage of skills by 70% not just 60
Rear as i wrote means back.
There are 2 types of enchant for this skill +% rear crit dmg and +% side crit dmg.:) So yes,i wrote it.


And by  the way,the enchant name is the same for all options available,it's named POWER,same as with focus chance. :)
And since i know you're too smart to believe me and would post next post saying lots of stuff i took pictures for you also :

(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/5983/shot00003mm.png)
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6963/shot00004cg.png)
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/5633/shot00005dw.png)

Enjoy the failure.:)
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: flamingAwe on October 15, 2011, 10:51:57 PM
Quote from: Luthor123 on October 15, 2011, 10:37:55 PM
Rear as i wrote means back.
There are 2 types of enchant for this skill +% rear crit dmg and +% side crit dmg.:) So yes,i wrote it.


And by  the way,the enchant name is the same for all options available,it's named POWER,same as with focus chance. :)
And since i know you're too smart to believe me and would post next post saying lots of stuff i took pictures for you also :

Enjoy the failure.:)

your failure again, should raise from rare, and enchant + rear are 2 different things
how are you going to fix anything, if can't even write normally??
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: Luthor123 on October 15, 2011, 11:09:27 PM
Quote from: flamingAwe on October 15, 2011, 10:51:57 PM
your failure again, ,should raise from rare and enchant + rear are 2 different things
how are you going to fix anything, if can't even write normally??
Really....stop posting ,every post you make is senseless ....
READ with U N D E R S T A N D I N G ,rather than posting 3 messages full of nonsense trying to flame me.

Quote from: Luthor123 on October 15, 2011, 03:23:30 PM
FOCUS POWER which i have is +15 POWER which should rise the REAR damage
Please stop wasting my time...
Track lock topic before it turn to flame war as FlamingAwe would love to.
Title: Re: Biggest bullshiit ever
Post by: flamingAwe on October 15, 2011, 11:49:38 PM
Quote from: Luthor123 on October 15, 2011, 11:09:27 PM
Really....stop posting ,every post you make is senseless ....
READ with U N D E R S T A N D I N G ,rather than posting 3 messages full of nonsense trying to flame me.
Please stop wasting my time...
Track lock topic before it turn to flame war as FlamingAwe would love to.

y, ofc, +15 side should raise fron rear!!! xD
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