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Title: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: Vargine on October 15, 2011, 12:23:07 AM
Every1 know thats Kamaels are greatly nerfed on our server.
I know Track nerfed is during gracia update but:

COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT DID YOU NERF AND HOW ?

as i can see now:
Real Target: +24% crossbow dmg instead of 40%
Real Target:  +Add Decrease P.def give twice less effect as it should tested with same Stun (-400P.def RT / - 700 Stun)
Crushing Pain: have lower dmg then regural hit (700 from skill / 675 hit 2100 crit)
Steal Divinity: only 2 or 3 buffs instead of 5, reuse 1min insted of 15s

If am wrong pls correct me
and pls dont post here RT is OP coz it isnt
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: slimx on October 15, 2011, 06:41:33 AM
u forgot the - p atk and - atk speed on last update  :P
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: Vargine on October 15, 2011, 11:21:57 AM
up
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: PvtStuka on October 15, 2011, 03:41:18 PM
To all the active kamaels: does Inspector skills work now? Haven't tried them since GF update (I know in HB they didn't work).
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: Vargine on October 15, 2011, 03:57:40 PM
Quote from: PvtStuka on October 15, 2011, 03:41:18 PM
To all the active kamaels: does Inspector skills work now? Haven't tried them since GF update (I know in HB they didn't work).

Work properly
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: PvtStuka on October 15, 2011, 05:32:17 PM
Quote from: Vargine on October 15, 2011, 03:57:40 PM
Work properly

Thanks.
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: barni on October 15, 2011, 08:17:24 PM
Quote from: slimx on October 15, 2011, 06:41:33 AM
u forgot the - p atk and - atk speed on last update  :P
You know that atk. speed passive was custom added in hb, and p.atk passive was simply a bug right?

Any way for Track:
Since beginning of gracia  I'm from w8 for my retail fix:
- I cant take certificates for my 3rd retail, because i cant switch to it. Also I cant delete it because npc tells me that i have "all 3 types of battle allowed to kamael".
- New sub system.
- Char name: Weovky.
- Subs main: trickster/soul hound. Retails 1:doombringer/soul hound, 2: doombringer/judicator 3: he/wc.
If you could at least delete 3rd retail? Is it hard?
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: slimx on October 15, 2011, 08:27:37 PM
Quote from: barni on October 15, 2011, 08:17:24 PM
You know that atk. speed passive was custom added in hb, and p.atk passive was simply a bug right?

Any way for Track:
Since beginning of gracia  I'm from w8 for my retail fix:
- I cant take certificates for my 3rd retail, because i cant switch to it. Also I cant delete it because npc tells me that i have "all 3 types of battle allowed to kamael".
- New sub system.
- Char name: Weovky.
- Subs main: trickster/soul hound. Retails 1:doombringer/soul hound, 2: doombringer/judicator 3: he/wc.
If you could at least delete 3rd retail? Is it hard?
well it wasnt custom cuz female sh normaly have that pasive
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: Vargine on October 15, 2011, 08:41:37 PM
TRACK WE ARE W8ING FOR YOUR REPLY
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: Javardsnegger on October 16, 2011, 01:13:11 PM
Well if you're willing to search a bit trough past posts you'll find few answers for your questions!!

Regarding kamalol SD skill, lets say enough has been said about it alrdy!
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: Vargine on October 16, 2011, 08:51:33 PM
Can some1 tell me Death Mark landing rate ?

coz even my +15 wont land on elpy :C
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: 6bIK on October 17, 2011, 12:25:49 AM
Quote from: Vargine on October 15, 2011, 08:41:37 PM
TRACK WE ARE W8ING FOR YOUR REPLY

Vargi im so sorry, but truth is TRACK is BUSY WITH MANY IMPORTANT THINGS ( NEW CUSTOM SETS) and sh1t what u tell here is not MAjor bug, so stop qq xD
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: Gonzal on October 17, 2011, 05:07:28 AM
Quote from: barni on October 15, 2011, 08:17:24 PM
You know that atk. speed passive was custom added in hb, and p.atk passive was simply a bug right?

Any way for Track:
Since beginning of gracia  I'm from w8 for my retail fix:
- I cant take certificates for my 3rd retail, because i cant switch to it. Also I cant delete it because npc tells me that i have "all 3 types of battle allowed to kamael".
- New sub system.
- Char name: Weovky.
- Subs main: trickster/soul hound. Retails 1:doombringer/soul hound, 2: doombringer/judicator 3: he/wc.
If you could at least delete 3rd retail? Is it hard?
so u cant go to the npc and ask remove the current subclass? i remember i did that time ago and worked fine...
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: barni on October 17, 2011, 07:48:01 AM
Quote from: Gonzal on October 17, 2011, 05:07:28 AM
so u cant go to the npc and ask remove the current subclass? i remember i did that time ago and worked fine...
Seriously?... It's just what i wrote.
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: Gonzal on October 18, 2011, 02:02:29 PM
Quote from: barni on October 17, 2011, 07:48:01 AM
Seriously?... It's just what i wrote.
U tryed with both dnet subs?
Go with the third retail and change class with astral and them try to remove it...
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: barni on October 18, 2011, 03:41:09 PM
Quote from: Gonzal on October 18, 2011, 02:02:29 PM
U tryed with both dnet subs?
Go with the third retail and change class with astral and them try to remove it...
Sometimes I can't believe... Just stop trying to advise me because I'm afraid Track will believe in your bullshit and my char will never get fix. Why is so hard to understand that npc's blocks option to delete retails for kamaels when they have unlocked inspector? And in order to switch to he/wc i have to talk with human grand master. Which don't want to talk witch me because I'm kamael.
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: Sp3ctre on October 21, 2011, 01:05:39 PM
Quote from: Vargine on October 15, 2011, 12:23:07 AM
Every1 know thats Kamaels are greatly nerfed on our server.
I know Track nerfed is during gracia update but:

COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT DID YOU NERF AND HOW ?

as i can see now:
Real Target: +24% crossbow dmg instead of 40%
Real Target:  +Add Decrease P.def give twice less effect as it should tested with same Stun (-400P.def RT / - 700 Stun)
Crushing Pain: have lower dmg then regural hit (700 from skill / 675 hit 2100 crit)
Steal Divinity: only 2 or 3 buffs instead of 5, reuse 1min insted of 15s

If am wrong pls correct me
and pls dont post here RT is OP coz it isnt
I would like to see an answer from track too
common track we deserve an answer i think...
or he actually cant see this topic? :)
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: Vargine on October 22, 2011, 06:37:15 PM
Quote from: Sp3ctre on October 21, 2011, 01:05:39 PM
I would like to see an answer from track too
common track we deserve an answer i think...
or he actually cant see this topic? :)

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Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: Vargine on November 12, 2011, 04:28:22 PM
up

Still w8ing for Track / Gideon reply
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: slimx on November 12, 2011, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Vargine on November 12, 2011, 04:28:22 PM
up

Still w8ing for Track / Gideon reply

up top  ;D
Title: Re: [To Track] Kamael nerf explanation
Post by: Vargine on November 12, 2011, 06:02:05 PM
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,244647.0.html

also i want to see what do you have to sey about this "unfair" subs