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Title: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: Ciso on October 20, 2011, 09:30:01 PM
Why Dnet vesper hvy >>> Light?
Why some class who in normal time use light , now use hvy?
Why light i so bad??
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: Ciso on October 20, 2011, 10:49:21 PM
So why gm don't nerf it?
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: entomb on October 20, 2011, 10:59:49 PM
why don't you complain that tallum heavy > tallum light?....

if you like the heavy set more, use it.
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: flamingAwe on October 20, 2011, 11:00:21 PM
maybe heavy is OP, but why everyone forgets that other 2 sets have buged PvP bonus?:P
All 3 sets have PvP slow bonus, thought  robe should have anticrit, and light - mirage  ::)
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on October 20, 2011, 11:07:46 PM
Why everyone forget that light set have 30% protectiono from STUN/SHOCK and it gives Evasion ! Imo not a small thing!
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: Cenarius on October 21, 2011, 01:16:13 AM
Quote from: TrackZero on October 20, 2011, 11:07:46 PM
Why everyone forget that light set have 30% protectiono from STUN/SHOCK and it gives Evasion ! Imo not a small thing!
maybe they want same p def   ;D
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: raymax on October 21, 2011, 01:21:20 AM
running speed

and yes:
if i see pw/sws or th/pp in heavy set, especially with shield, i cant stop lol really ;D
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: Luthor123 on October 21, 2011, 01:37:28 AM
Why! OH WHY GOD?!  WHY?! ::)
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: Kastro on October 21, 2011, 02:50:49 AM
Quote from: raymax on October 21, 2011, 01:21:20 AM
running speed

and yes:
if i see pw/sws or th/pp in heavy set, especially with shield, i cant stop lol really ;D

if u know it the passiv skills and  how evasion work  u will want wear heavy also and u wont lol really
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: Ciso on October 21, 2011, 08:48:42 AM
Nerf heavy =D
Upgrade robe and light =D
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: J4cKDan13L on October 21, 2011, 11:51:05 AM
Btw going a little offtopic...I've never understood how NCsoft decided the stats of lineage2 sets... or SA for weapons... some are really nosense...totally useless...
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: PvtStuka on October 21, 2011, 03:21:09 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on October 20, 2011, 11:07:46 PM
Why everyone forget that light set have 30% protectiono from STUN/SHOCK and it gives Evasion ! Imo not a small thing!

+3 evasion IS a small thing, believe me.
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: entomb on October 21, 2011, 03:31:17 PM
isnt it 3% evasion? if so, you must have around 160, so its more like 4 evarions. dunno, there is no place on forum to check this set stats....

i just found out that vesper dnet robe gives slow even if i attack with a bow. i dont know how is that suposed to work but seems awesome!
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: Weezer on October 21, 2011, 03:32:53 PM
Quote from: PvtStuka on October 21, 2011, 03:21:09 PM
+3 evasion IS a small thing, believe me.

Its 3% of evasion and imo the best is the 30% of resist stun that light set have now.
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: PvtStuka on October 21, 2011, 04:25:45 PM
Quote from: Weezer on October 21, 2011, 03:32:53 PM
Its 3% of evasion and imo the best is the 30% of resist stun that light set have now.

Did u test the resist? We did and we saw no difference...
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: Weezer on October 21, 2011, 04:29:27 PM
Quote from: PvtStuka on October 21, 2011, 04:25:45 PM
Did u test the resist? We did and we saw no difference...

Nops i didn't i'm playing mage atm :D
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: PvtStuka on October 21, 2011, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: Weezer on October 21, 2011, 04:29:27 PM
Nops i didn't i'm playing mage atm :D

Well on paper, it looks really nice, but if u can, try it, maybe we missed smth or I dunno, but as I said, we felt no difference at all.
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: KaSaNoWa on October 21, 2011, 05:38:39 PM
Quote from: J4cKDan13L on October 21, 2011, 11:51:05 AM
Btw going a little offtopic...I've never understood how NCsoft decided the stats of lineage2 sets... or SA for weapons... some are really nosense...totally useless...
like soes+focus ?  ;D
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: flamingAwe on October 21, 2011, 05:39:34 PM
Quote from: KaSaNoWa on October 21, 2011, 05:38:39 PM
like soes+focus ?  ;D

what's so funny with thsi one?>:
i always use it on oly for pony xD
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: Ciso on October 22, 2011, 12:09:28 AM
It's crazy!!!
Ppl who in normal time use light as th/pp , pw/sws and many others , now use hvy xD
Light have stun resist and what? He need pdef xD and evasion suck , he don't give so much..
Th/pp in hvy is as tank in dnet xD , and tank in dnet vesper is as a big military truck :p impossible to kill by archer :/ .
Pvtstuka say right , 30% resist stun and what? It's so fantastic?? With +30 chance on stun now?
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: VforVanilla on October 22, 2011, 12:18:59 AM
Say yes if you want +6% pdef in dnet vesper light like dnet dynasty light! let's vote  ;D :
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: J4cKDan13L on October 22, 2011, 06:31:14 AM
Quote from: KaSaNoWa on October 21, 2011, 05:38:39 PM
like soes+focus ?  ;D

many weapons with light (less weight of weapon)  cheapshot in bows (for save 1-2 mp with a % in every hit) mana up in all mage weapons and so on...
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: VforVanilla on October 22, 2011, 09:44:26 AM
Quote from: J4cKDan13L on October 22, 2011, 06:31:14 AM
many weapons with light (less weight of weapon)  cheapshot in bows (for save 1-2 mp with a % in every hit) mana up in all mage weapons and so on...

I don't see why Mana up on normal servers w/o mana potion is bad sa for buffers  ???
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: thehunted on October 22, 2011, 04:18:29 PM
Quote from: Ciso on October 21, 2011, 08:48:42 AM
Nerf heavy =D
Upgrade robe and light =D

You're funny.......
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: Furesy on October 22, 2011, 04:32:50 PM
Quote from: thehunted on October 22, 2011, 04:18:29 PM
You're funny.......
Hi! =D
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: entomb on October 22, 2011, 04:53:50 PM
Quote from: J4cKDan13L on October 22, 2011, 06:31:14 AM
many weapons with light (less weight of weapon)  cheapshot in bows (for save 1-2 mp with a % in every hit) mana up in all mage weapons and so on...

about light and cheapshot i have nothing to say cuz its realy stupid! but mana up can be good for prophets who have to buff 9 people in a row w/o mana pots. or dwarfs crafting, but they prefer conversion. anyway, yes, there are some things that make no real sense to use.
including SETs.. expecialy A grade sets, only 3 or 4 of them have a real use. all others are "cheap alternatives".
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: Furesy on October 22, 2011, 05:12:29 PM
NCSoft used a much better solution in Guild Wars, where you just buy the armor set you like most when it comes to appearance, and you can add the bonuses yourself. That way you can create countless of sets for different situations, choose the set you like most and everything is balanced as everyone can basically use same bonus x)
Title: Re: Dnet Vesper..
Post by: flamingAwe on October 22, 2011, 05:38:40 PM
Quote from: J4cKDan13L on October 22, 2011, 06:31:14 AM
many weapons with light (less weight of weapon)  cheapshot in bows (for save 1-2 mp with a % in every hit) mana up in all mage weapons and so on...

light useless??
don't you know, you have custom passive for weight limit, and on off you don't have it? so every ounce is counted....
cheap shot ofc is useless when you have mana pots...whcich you kinda lack on off....
same for many ohher bonuses, if you can't find a way to use them for yourself, don't call them totall useless....