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Title: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: lasombra on January 09, 2012, 06:05:10 PM
TW still not work propertly:
- wards are not reseted when new TW start
- Last TW was 3 hours. (and started 1 hour earlier)

Anakim transform :
- Crazy dmg, almoust perma AOE
- Crazy stats (hp, mdef, pdef etc)

Please check it and fix it.

thx.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: PvtStuka on January 09, 2012, 06:30:04 PM
Quote from: lasombra on January 09, 2012, 06:05:10 PM
TW still not work propertly:
- wards are not reseted when new TW start
- Last TW was 3 hours. (and started 1 hour earlier)

Anakim transform :
- Crazy dmg, almoust perma AOE
- Crazy stats (hp, mdef, pdef etc)

Please check it and fix it.

thx.

Yes pls, cause you couldn't do even half dmg with 2 of them, what Katsu did alone.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Crazzyyhuhuh on January 09, 2012, 06:31:52 PM
Quote from: lasombra on January 09, 2012, 06:05:10 PM
TW still not work propertly:
- wards are not reseted when new TW start
- Last TW was 3 hours. (and started 1 hour earlier)

Anakim transform :
- Crazy dmg, almoust perma AOE
- Crazy stats (hp, mdef, pdef etc)

Please check it and fix it.

thx.
like ;D
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: PvtStuka on January 09, 2012, 06:36:10 PM
Quote from: Crazzyyhuhuh on January 09, 2012, 06:31:52 PM
like ;D

die more  ;D
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Voodoo on January 09, 2012, 06:37:28 PM
Quote from: Crazzyyhuhuh on January 09, 2012, 06:31:52 PM
like ;D

and again
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Gonzal on January 09, 2012, 06:50:07 PM
I saw only weezer with anakim yesterday...
Btw nitopami was with anakim also so...
Wtb anakim scroll  ::)
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Gideon on January 09, 2012, 06:58:36 PM
About TW:

I already reported it to Drake and Track.

About Anakim:

I made some tests during the end of year about the damage and reuse of those skills, some things to understand why it makes soo much damage:

- Anakim skills r HOLY based, if u have weapon with HOLY will make more damage
- Power of Skills r the way it should be
- Reuse Delay is too short (instead of nerfing the damage we gonna increase the reuse delay of skills)
- Mana Cons of HEAL skills is rly low (even being correct we gonna make a bit more)
- Most of players from server don't have protection against Holy, that's why some people will die so fast

Just few people have this transformation atm, and i must agree that this transformation is rly OP, but it's supposed to be OP.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: eagleye on January 09, 2012, 07:23:51 PM
Quote from: Gideon on January 09, 2012, 06:58:36 PM
About TW:

I already reported it to Drake and Track.

About Anakim:

I made some tests during the end of year about the damage and reuse of those skills, some things to understand why it makes soo much damage:

- Anakim skills r HOLY based, if u have weapon with HOLY will make more damage
- Power of Skills r the way it should be
- Reuse Delay is too short (instead of nerfing the damage we gonna increase the reuse delay of skills)
- Mana Cons of HEAL skills is rly low (even being correct we gonna make a bit more)
- Most of players from server don't have protection against Holy, that's why some people will die so fast

Just few people have this transformation atm, and i must agree that this transformation is rly OP, but it's supposed to be OP.

so you'll bring it back to drop ?
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: PvtStuka on January 09, 2012, 07:25:58 PM
Quote from: Gideon on January 09, 2012, 06:58:36 PM
About TW:

I already reported it to Drake and Track.

About Anakim:

I made some tests during the end of year about the damage and reuse of those skills, some things to understand why it makes soo much damage:

- Anakim skills r HOLY based, if u have weapon with HOLY will make more damage
- Power of Skills r the way it should be
- Reuse Delay is too short (instead of nerfing the damage we gonna increase the reuse delay of skills)
- Mana Cons of HEAL skills is rly low (even being correct we gonna make a bit more)
- Most of players from server don't have protection against Holy, that's why some people will die so fast

Just few people have this transformation atm, and i must agree that this transformation is rly OP, but it's supposed to be OP.

Just enlighten me, why do Felissin cries this much about Anakim, when they have more than us? If thats so OP, shouldn't they wipe the floor with us? Ow.... they can't use it properly... Why nerf then? Lets put it this way: if I can't learn something, it should be fuked up to everyone cause I'm a dumbfuk ? I don't think so.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 09, 2012, 07:30:13 PM
Quote from: eagleye on January 09, 2012, 07:23:51 PM
so you'll bring it back to drop ?
No we will nerf it.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: eagleye on January 09, 2012, 07:36:08 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on January 09, 2012, 07:30:13 PM
No we will nerf it.

nerf ok - but why other ppl can't get it anymore ?
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 09, 2012, 08:04:10 PM
Quote from: eagleye on January 09, 2012, 07:36:08 PM
nerf ok - but why other ppl can't get it anymore ?
Because it was a limited reward on various events in the past, will not be released at the moment.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 10, 2012, 01:22:48 AM
Quote from: lasombra on January 09, 2012, 06:05:10 PM
TW still not work propertly:
- wards are not reseted when new TW start
- Last TW was 3 hours. (and started 1 hour earlier)

Anakim transform :
- Crazy dmg, almoust perma AOE
- Crazy stats (hp, mdef, pdef etc)

Please check it and fix it.

thx.
Hummm, you sure you tried to reg BEFORE tw started? I mean castleless players?

http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,266186.0.html
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: PartyTimE on January 10, 2012, 02:09:46 AM
Quote from: TrackZero on January 10, 2012, 01:22:48 AM
Hummm, you sure you tried to reg BEFORE tw started? I mean castleless players?

http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,266186.0.html


I registred with my clan (not a castle or fotress owner) but the problem he wanna say is registration period was kinda 1-2 hours

and untill that time npc wasnt showing any TW i registred just by chance i didnt even know what i was doing :D

... and last TW was last for 3 hours
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: lasombra on January 10, 2012, 07:58:54 AM
Quote from: TrackZero on January 10, 2012, 01:22:48 AM
Hummm, you sure you tried to reg BEFORE tw started? I mean castleless players?

http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,266186.0.html

About this I'm not sure, couse till sunday we had castle.
Ask some WS (WladcySmokow) members, they had problem with this, but dunno at what time they tried.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: zenice on January 10, 2012, 11:02:25 AM
"Territory War registration and cancellation end 2 hours before the battle begins."
If TW time in this server its being setted manually like 3 or 4 hours before it start u have short time to register according to offi guide, but anyway who cares for offi guide, this its a "special" server...
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: ylim on January 10, 2012, 11:10:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23pzuyA15XU

anakim work as it should its just simple OP, like cancel protection  ;)
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: zenice on January 10, 2012, 11:31:03 AM
FTP ally have 3 anakim, the 3 together cant kill half of what 1 anakim from CB can.
Why this happen then if that scroll its so OP? Why some people blame their own failure with cheap excuses?
The rule in this server its simple, cant beat someone or something lets call it OP and cry until GM nerfs it, the worst its that GM`s permit all this sh1ts.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Exitus on January 10, 2012, 12:11:25 PM
i tryed to reg on TW every day and every saturday before start and i couldnt we will see if this time we will be able too

SATURDAY TW WAS ANNOUNCED AT 16 GMT+1 AND TW WAS AT 20 GMT+1 SO THEY GOT 2H FOR REIGSTER- its not true btw:P
in prev topic i gave u link that says 2h before TW u cant reg
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Vandana on January 10, 2012, 12:21:50 PM
I had Blackhand and Reload clans both registered to the teritory war siege and i have to mention none of them had castle.So registration to TW,worked.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Di on January 10, 2012, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: lasombra on January 09, 2012, 06:05:10 PM
TW still not work propertly:
- wards are not reseted when new TW start
- Last TW was 3 hours. (and started 1 hour earlier)

Anakim transform :
- Crazy dmg, almoust perma AOE
- Crazy stats (hp, mdef, pdef etc)

Please check it and fix it.

thx.


CB had few Alts regged in giran, because i think the very 1 time TW worked as should, with Right time on npc and so on...
indeed, 3 hours of territory war...

about anakin dmg, its not big deal, i mean when i was hitted by enemy  i could handle, and i could heal as well...
But i think nerf (if it is rly necessary?) should be done just on status, dont touch reuse , mana or how much it use at all, decrese a bit dmg made by it, like skillpower.... to ballance , not make Anakin useless  as was done with many others things please.



Katsu anakim > all
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 10, 2012, 04:09:54 PM
Quote from: Di on January 10, 2012, 03:51:35 PM

CB had few Alts regged in giran, because i think the very 1 time TW worked as should, with Right time on npc and so on...
indeed, 3 hours of territory war...

about anakin dmg, its not big deal, i mean when i was hitted by enemy  i could handle, and i could heal as well...
But i think nerf (if it is rly necessary?) should be done just on status, dont touch reuse , mana or how much it use at all, decrese a bit dmg made by it, like skillpower.... to ballance , not make Anakin useless  as was done with many others things please.



Katsu anakim > all
We will fix exactly there, reuse and mana needed , you want powerful transform? NP , but u cant be moving  star wars tank with shooting lights from the sky with almost no ruse , i  mean know u would like it but wont happen anymore.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Weezer on January 10, 2012, 05:01:04 PM
- FTP Anakim: MissViva (AOD), Nitopami (AOD?), Llamame (FB clan, BA player)
- CB Anakim: Weezer and Katsu

MissViva almost dont use his transformation.

Nitopami use it from time to time, but if it use his skills will hit BA on same time. He have weapon with holy?

Llamame use it from time to time, but it gonna hit us and his whole ally cause isn't on BA or AOD, but on FB, so can't use it with his whole power. Have weapon with Holy.

Me and Katsu can use it with full power cause we r in same clan and wont hit others with the AOE skills, also both of us have weapon with Holy + Wards. Also i have +1 INT aug on the weapon i use for Anakim.

A lot of people don't have protection against Holy, sry to tell but atm we can't have all attributes, so we must live with it and try to handle the best way it's possible, i have weakness against 1 attribute and i don't complain when i got hitted by some kinda of char.

So the whole point of this discussion about Anakim? It's rly too much OP? If it is why Nitopami and Llamame not killing everyone like me and Katsu do? They also have good gear and Anakim like we have.

They r less skilled than us? Besides what some people talk on Forum they r not noobs and they play very good their chars and Anakim too (but i think they need to improve a bit in the use of Anakim).

As i told in another topic on Forum that people was telling about Anakim too (Clan Section, the topic of GOK clan), we have good gear and skills, we have protection against Holy Attacks, and i bet some of guys on FTP don't have it.

Also 1 more important thing, on last Rune Siege all FTP rushed to balcony and was in rly small place, all grouped. This way is the best way to use Anakim, i had like 40+ targets in rly closed space, so it was rly easy to hit all fast, while Llamame couldn't use his Anakim's skills cause she could kill her ally too.

Imo FTP have the same chances to use Anakim as we do, increase protection against holy, make Llamame in some of their clans, maybe talk with MissViva to use it sometimes, make Piskal pratice it a bit, and ofc coop to not hit each other while on siege.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: PvtStuka on January 10, 2012, 05:29:23 PM
Quote from: Weezer on January 10, 2012, 05:01:04 PM
- FTP Anakim: MissViva (AOD), Nitopami (AOD?), Llamame (FB clan, BA player)
- CB Anakim: Weezer and Katsu

MissViva almost dont use his transformation.

Nitopami use it from time to time, but if it use his skills will hit BA on same time. He have weapon with holy?

Llamame use it from time to time, but it gonna hit us and his whole ally cause isn't on BA or AOD, but on FB, so can't use it with his whole power. Have weapon with Holy.

Me and Katsu can use it with full power cause we r in same clan and wont hit others with the AOE skills, also both of us have weapon with Holy + Wards. Also i have +1 INT aug on the weapon i use for Anakim.

A lot of people don't have protection against Holy, sry to tell but atm we can't have all attributes, so we must live with it and try to handle the best way it's possible, i have weakness against 1 attribute and i don't complain when i got hitted by some kinda of char.

So the whole point of this discussion about Anakim? It's rly too much OP? If it is why Nitopami and Llamame not killing everyone like me and Katsu do? They also have good gear and Anakim like we have.

They r less skilled than us? Besides what some people talk on Forum they r not noobs and they play very good their chars and Anakim too (but i think they need to improve a bit in the use of Anakim).

As i told in another topic on Forum that people was telling about Anakim too (Clan Section, the topic of GOK clan), we have good gear and skills, we have protection against Holy Attacks, and i bet some of guys on FTP don't have it.

Also 1 more important thing, on last Rune Siege all FTP rushed to balcony and was in rly small place, all grouped. This way is the best way to use Anakim, i had like 40+ targets in rly closed space, so it was rly easy to hit all fast, while Llamame couldn't use his Anakim's skills cause she could kill her ally too.

Imo FTP have the same chances to use Anakim as we do, increase protection against holy, make Llamame in some of their clans, maybe talk with MissViva to use it sometimes, make Piskal pratice it a bit, and ofc coop to not hit each other while on siege.

Well said, tho I wonder when you will give up like I did. They won't gonna say "yes, you are right" anyway.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: FIREBLADE on January 10, 2012, 06:48:13 PM
K
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/shot00008ia.png/
need explanations???

your topic is only about flame ppl like all hero shouts...just chek my screen i was fullbuffed and i had over 400 oly resist...also if u used another attr isnt important i missed water in that siege...my m def?? a lot...result? chek your dmg..

Honestly is op thats all...u can flame ftp all time u want but this is a screen...and is not about holy resist or m def..
yes ftp can use but this doesnt mean is not op transform..STILL SAME

w8ting correcti fix like tw/shirts and all rest we expect ..Gm do your job ty
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Gonzal on January 10, 2012, 06:48:50 PM
Quote from: Weezer on January 10, 2012, 05:01:04 PM
- FTP Anakim: MissViva (AOD), Nitopami (AOD?), Llamame (FB clan, BA player)
- CB Anakim: Weezer and Katsu

MissViva almost dont use his transformation.

Nitopami use it from time to time, but if it use his skills will hit BA on same time. He have weapon with holy?

Llamame use it from time to time, but it gonna hit us and his whole ally cause isn't on BA or AOD, but on FB, so can't use it with his whole power. Have weapon with Holy.

Me and Katsu can use it with full power cause we r in same clan and wont hit others with the AOE skills, also both of us have weapon with Holy + Wards. Also i have +1 INT aug on the weapon i use for Anakim.

A lot of people don't have protection against Holy, sry to tell but atm we can't have all attributes, so we must live with it and try to handle the best way it's possible, i have weakness against 1 attribute and i don't complain when i got hitted by some kinda of char.

So the whole point of this discussion about Anakim? It's rly too much OP? If it is why Nitopami and Llamame not killing everyone like me and Katsu do? They also have good gear and Anakim like we have.

They r less skilled than us? Besides what some people talk on Forum they r not noobs and they play very good their chars and Anakim too (but i think they need to improve a bit in the use of Anakim).

As i told in another topic on Forum that people was telling about Anakim too (Clan Section, the topic of GOK clan), we have good gear and skills, we have protection against Holy Attacks, and i bet some of guys on FTP don't have it.

Also 1 more important thing, on last Rune Siege all FTP rushed to balcony and was in rly small place, all grouped. This way is the best way to use Anakim, i had like 40+ targets in rly closed space, so it was rly easy to hit all fast, while Llamame couldn't use his Anakim's skills cause she could kill her ally too.

Imo FTP have the same chances to use Anakim as we do, increase protection against holy, make Llamame in some of their clans, maybe talk with MissViva to use it sometimes, make Piskal pratice it a bit, and ofc coop to not hit each other while on siege.
WTS Dyn Mace+a+6 almost full holy offer ;)
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Gonzal on January 10, 2012, 06:54:06 PM
Quote from: FIREBLADE on January 10, 2012, 06:48:13 PM
K
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/shot00008ia.png/
need explanations???

Yes! Show your buffs and att if want to show something fine...
Imo this is cry me a river topic
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: FIREBLADE on January 10, 2012, 07:03:29 PM
imo gm cheked already my attr.. so is not cry me ariver  my set is avaible all time for to be cheked bot not for u....keep dreaming..u can do all u want but thats evidence!!!i missed water attr in that siege..and gm can chek it like already did so stup do stupid answers!!

QQ more on another topic zegladis

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/shot00008ia.png/

free to believe or not../cares this is evidence!
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Locus on January 10, 2012, 08:29:23 PM
Quote from: FIREBLADE on January 10, 2012, 07:03:29 PM
imo gm cheked already my attr.. so is not cry me ariver  my set is avaible all time for to be cheked bot not for u....keep dreaming..u can do all u want but thats evidence!!!i missed water attr in that siege..and gm can chek it like already did so stup do stupid answers!!

QQ more on another topic zegladis

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/shot00008ia.png/

free to believe or not../cares this is evidence!

still forgetting about 3 anakim  owners in your ally
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Weezer on January 10, 2012, 09:28:39 PM
Quote from: FIREBLADE on January 10, 2012, 06:48:13 PM
K
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/shot00008ia.png/
need explanations???

your topic is only about flame ppl like all hero shouts...just chek my screen i was fullbuffed and i had over 400 oly resist...also if u used another attr isnt important i missed water in that siege...my m def?? a lot...result? chek your dmg..

Honestly is op thats all...u can flame ftp all time u want but this is a screen...and is not about holy resist or m def..
yes ftp can use but this doesnt mean is not op transform..STILL SAME

w8ting correcti fix like tw/shirts and all rest we expect ..Gm do your job ty

Too bad for u, but i'm not flaming people on my post. The same way Felissin and others can complain about Anakim i also have the right to post my opinion here, since i use Anakim sometimes and i also fight against it.

I rly would like to see ur m. def and ur protection against holy in that screen, cause without it, it's just Damage info imo. U could have a debuff or had low m. def or atr in that moment, at least imo seens u have 2 debuffs still working when u took the SS.

Also if u wanna i can make screen of Anakim using an AM+A without ATT and hitting enemies for 500 max on crits and i will proove Anakim isn't OP, ok? It's the same u did with ur screen, hiding information don't proove u r right or wrong.

And what some people tells here on some previous posts is that ur ally have 3 anakim and we have 2, why those people don't use it? Piskal and Llamame they use it when it's necessary, but they can't keep spamming skills with it or they will kill ur own ally, but here comes a question to my mind, they don't use it cause they would kill ur ally too, Piskal would kill BA and Llamame would kill both (since it's on FB clan), we have all in same clan to prevent this problem (also prevent OL debuffs), before i join CB with Weezer i had on Yuuki and i was killing CB sometimes cause of it, that's one more reason why i joined CB.

Anakim is OP for both sides, to CB and to FTP! The diff is that we don't need to worry to kill our own people while using it, but ur people need to worry about it, so can't spam skills all the time, or gonna kill CB and FTP in same time.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: PvtStuka on January 10, 2012, 10:37:47 PM
Quote from: Weezer on January 10, 2012, 09:28:39 PM
Too bad for u, but i'm not flaming people on my post. The same way Felissin and others can complain about Anakim i also have the right to post my opinion here, since i use Anakim sometimes and i also fight against it.

I rly would like to see ur m. def and ur protection against holy in that screen, cause without it, it's just Damage info imo. U could have a debuff or had low m. def or atr in that moment, at least imo seens u have 2 debuffs still working when u took the SS.

Also if u wanna i can make screen of Anakim using an AM+A without ATT and hitting enemies for 500 max on crits and i will proove Anakim isn't OP, ok? It's the same u did with ur screen, hiding information don't proove u r right or wrong.

And what some people tells here on some previous posts is that ur ally have 3 anakim and we have 2, why those people don't use it? Piskal and Llamame they use it when it's necessary, but they can't keep spamming skills with it or they will kill ur own ally, but here comes a question to my mind, they don't use it cause they would kill ur ally too, Piskal would kill BA and Llamame would kill both (since it's on FB clan), we have all in same clan to prevent this problem (also prevent OL debuffs), before i join CB with Weezer i had on Yuuki and i was killing CB sometimes cause of it, that's one more reason why i joined CB.

Anakim is OP for both sides, to CB and to FTP! The diff is that we don't need to worry to kill our own people while using it, but ur people need to worry about it, so can't spam skills all the time, or gonna kill CB and FTP in same time.

Why do you keep teaching them? Pointless.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: FIREBLADE on January 10, 2012, 11:13:58 PM
no need to tech anyone...just gm knows what attr i have and this screen wasnt for u for sure..this just give a confirm that is op transform...i dont need to tell anithing for u ..just u QQ cause u know is op and reuse skills is too fast..Let me know how much mana u use for heal//attack??Let me know how many hits u can give in 4 seconds??And let me know u wont believe me i have over 400 holy resist but i should care about "U DONT BELIEVE ME"??or gm can check out what attr i have??..u rly think we talking without test that transform??Man i tested it even without siege and result is same..so u should care about u say and about ppl qq cause only one qq is u that no want nerf of op transform...

my post is for gm not for your flames.better u go back in your cave.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Crazzyyhuhuh on January 10, 2012, 11:35:04 PM
GTFO with your Scrols i wana play L2 not Starcraft
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Gonzal on January 11, 2012, 12:03:19 AM
Quote from: FIREBLADE on January 10, 2012, 11:13:58 PM
no need to tech anyone...just gm knows what attr i have and this screen wasnt for u for sure..this just give a confirm that is op transform...i dont need to tell anithing for u ..just u QQ cause u know is op and reuse skills is too fast..Let me know how much mana u use for heal//attack??Let me know how many hits u can give in 4 seconds??And let me know u wont believe me i have over 400 holy resist but i should care about "U DONT BELIEVE ME"??or gm can check out what attr i have??..u rly think we talking without test that transform??Man i tested it even without siege and result is same..so u should care about u say and about ppl qq cause only one qq is u that no want nerf of op transform...

my post is for gm not for your flames.better u go back in your cave.
buffs are everything and debuffs also...
did u watched the video that posted ylim? hahaha if u get 9k from anakim u should cry but for 2/3k pff
nonsense use of the "QQ" expression, maybe if u knew the meaning u could change your type of writing in forum.
ill add this quote to the topic i think its all written here :)
cheers
Quote from: Weezer on January 10, 2012, 09:28:39 PM
Too bad for u, but i'm not flaming people on my post. The same way Felissin and others can complain about Anakim i also have the right to post my opinion here, since i use Anakim sometimes and i also fight against it.

I rly would like to see ur m. def and ur protection against holy in that screen, cause without it, it's just Damage info imo. U could have a debuff or had low m. def or atr in that moment, at least imo seens u have 2 debuffs still working when u took the SS.

Also if u wanna i can make screen of Anakim using an AM+A without ATT and hitting enemies for 500 max on crits and i will proove Anakim isn't OP, ok? It's the same u did with ur screen, hiding information don't proove u r right or wrong.

And what some people tells here on some previous posts is that ur ally have 3 anakim and we have 2, why those people don't use it? Piskal and Llamame they use it when it's necessary, but they can't keep spamming skills with it or they will kill ur own ally, but here comes a question to my mind, they don't use it cause they would kill ur ally too, Piskal would kill BA and Llamame would kill both (since it's on FB clan), we have all in same clan to prevent this problem (also prevent OL debuffs), before i join CB with Weezer i had on Yuuki and i was killing CB sometimes cause of it, that's one more reason why i joined CB.

Anakim is OP for both sides, to CB and to FTP! The diff is that we don't need to worry to kill our own people while using it, but ur people need to worry about it, so can't spam skills all the time, or gonna kill CB and FTP in same time.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Weezer on January 11, 2012, 03:18:45 AM
Quote from: FIREBLADE on January 10, 2012, 11:13:58 PM
no need to tech anyone...just gm knows what attr i have and this screen wasnt for u for sure..this just give a confirm that is op transform...i dont need to tell anithing for u ..just u QQ cause u know is op and reuse skills is too fast..Let me know how much mana u use for heal//attack??Let me know how many hits u can give in 4 seconds??And let me know u wont believe me i have over 400 holy resist but i should care about "U DONT BELIEVE ME"??or gm can check out what attr i have??..u rly think we talking without test that transform??Man i tested it even without siege and result is same..so u should care about u say and about ppl qq cause only one qq is u that no want nerf of op transform...

my post is for gm not for your flames.better u go back in your cave.

I'm not trying to teach anyone here, also i'm not QQ about nothing here, others complained about it and i'm telling why i'm able to kill so many people using it. Did i said that Anakim isn't OP?

Also it will be rly hard for u to find a post i made where i'm flaming someone, 1st that i'm not used to flame people that i even don't know and 2nd i don't need to flame others since i preffer to discuss with arguments not with flames. Flame imo is a way to win a discussion when u don't have arguments to discuss.

All i said is that Anakim is OP, but this is the way they make it (NCSoft), what i'm trying to explain and i hope some people could understand is the irony on all this discussion.

As u could see in Gideon's post he said not all players have full protection against Holy, the point is a lot of people don't have protection against Holy now cause not all players use HOLY on their weapons, u should find some old bows with holy and some mage weapons (most used by old SPS that was hitting with HOLY skills on HB when it had a better reuse, now those weapons r kinda useless if u don't have Anakim transformation).

Add to this information the fact that on CB we have 2 Anakims (me and Voodoo) and on FTP u have 3 (MissViva, Nitopami and Llamame) and we still r able to kill them most of time and we don't die a lot.

Also the fact that in last Rune siege for example i used it only in the last 20 mins, so we took and defend castle for 1:40 hour without Anakim! Probably we would defend it for the whole siege without it, but i used for fun only, cause i know that some people get pissed cause of that, and it works all the time! :D

Btw in Rune siege Llamame also used Anakim transformation in the last 20 mins, but we killed her, anyway she couldn't use it as i do cause if she would start spamming skills would kill ur ally too and i don't have problems with that since we r all in same clan.

And i know it's OP and i rly don't care if it will be nerfed or not (i will play with another char anyway, so can keep that thing the way it is atm i rly don't care). What i'm trying to explain to all people who can check this topic is how some things works with it.

How u can use it, how u can kill using it, how u can kill it. And the most important part why we r able to kill ur ally using Anakim and u can't do it with us. And i didn't told cause ur players r noobs, cause i know Nitopami and Llamame since a long time and i know their equips and know that they r good players, but they can't use it properly cause in some situations they would kill FTP and CB while using it.

Quote from: Crazzyyhuhuh on January 10, 2012, 11:35:04 PM
GTFO with your Scrols i wana play L2 not Starcraft

Anakim is a Protoss unit! :D
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: flamingAwe on January 11, 2012, 08:11:14 AM
Quote from: FIREBLADE on January 10, 2012, 11:13:58 PM


my post is for gm not for your flames.better u go back in your cave.

your post is 100% not to GM
cause GMs need proof, not a random screen
They can't check, what stats you had at that random moment, when you were hit by anakim (IF it was that)
what you have is random screen, which gives 0 info on subject: no info about your defence, even no info,what type of attack was used
Normally you should've posted screen with attacker, with your stats, with your buffs.
But here you are just another pathetic cryer, who wants to nerf everything on server.
You say, you made tests besides siege, so where is proof?
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: ylim on January 11, 2012, 09:10:35 AM
Quote from: Weezer on January 11, 2012, 03:18:45 AM
Anakim is a Protoss unit! :D

zerg FTW
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: PvtStuka on January 11, 2012, 11:41:12 AM
Quote from: ylim on January 11, 2012, 09:10:35 AM
zerg FTW

Smashing large armies of zergs with terrans ftw !
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: ylim on January 11, 2012, 12:22:08 PM
Quote from: PvtStuka on January 11, 2012, 11:41:12 AM
Smashing large armies of zergs with terrans ftw !

dont liek that race :) even watchign it boring (except some pr0 koreans :) :)
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: FIREBLADE on January 11, 2012, 04:20:17 PM
gm has proofs about my holy resistance and my post was for gm 100%...weezer i was not talkign about siege thats reason i didnt screen my attr too..this is costrucrive topic?ok im talking about believe me i have over 400 holy attr and dmg from anakim is huge and fast..this is not complain this is a fact..thats all..
awe i dont understand why if u not playing ,not living l2 u are here rly..u dont play and wants know more than ppl that plays?Wow !!what i can say u are rly great...i suggest u if u like forums to read only instead tell stupid things.Topics are for solve problems and i think this is thats all..do i asked any nerf?show me any post about my complaining about op chars or skills...then u open your mouth..

i made tests on anakim with my over 400 holy reist and damage from ee (with icarus +3 full holy ) is 2800 //3k....without get ANY debuff damage still that..reported to gm and he made tests too.

How i tested?? we have 3 in ally..so my discussion is not for siege and i close here.U free to answer all u want.

Im free for made all tests u want and show you my attribute resists..after u can talk like u did i think.
aniway i end here is useless talk when ppl take only bad part of your words..gl do what u want.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: flamingAwe on January 11, 2012, 04:35:39 PM
Quote from: FIREBLADE on January 11, 2012, 04:20:17 PM
gm has proofs about my holy resistance and my post was for gm 100%...weezer i was not talkign about siege thats reason i didnt screen my attr too..this is costrucrive topic?ok im talking about believe me i have over 400 holy attr and dmg from anakim is huge and fast..this is not complain this is a fact..thats all..
awe i dont understand why if u not playing ,not living l2 u are here rly..u dont play and wants know more than ppl that plays?Wow !!what i can say u are rly great...i suggest u if u like forums to read only instead tell stupid things.Topics are for solve problems and i think this is thats all..do i asked any nerf?show me any post about my complaining about op chars or skills...then u open your mouth..

i made tests on anakim with my over 400 holy reist and damage from ee (with icarus +3 full holy ) is 2800 //3k....without get ANY debuff damage still that..reported to gm and he made tests too.

How i tested?? we have 3 in ally..so my discussion is not for siege and i close here.U free to answer all u want.

Im free for made all tests u want and show you my attribute resists..after u can talk like u did i think.
aniway i end here is useless talk when ppl take only bad part of your words..gl do what u want.

y, sure, you made tests, but can't post any proof, funny guy xD
why am i here?  to not let idiots like you ruin server gameplay  w/o any valid proof till the time i might be back.
Btw, learn english a bit before adressing me next time, didn't understand half of your bullshit.... including Epic red part
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: FIREBLADE on January 11, 2012, 05:17:36 PM
as i said..u arent playing l2 ,u are here cause u hate some ppl and u wants make some confusion..if u taling about idiots that ruinese server look yourself in a mirror ...i never shouted or called "retard "my enemy so better u shut up ...u cant play cause u have 0 friends here thats all...
i am funny guy? yes i am funny and dont need to proof anithing to a poor man that pass more time flaming in forums than real play.So plix stop answer with your bullsh1ts ..i dont need to proof anithing to u, like i said in aod forum several times: u are less than 0 for me.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: flamingAwe on January 11, 2012, 05:38:13 PM
Quote from: FIREBLADE on January 11, 2012, 05:17:36 PM
as i said..u arent playing l2 ,u are here cause u hate some ppl and u wants make some confusion..if u taling about idiots that ruinese server look yourself in a mirror ...i never shouted or called "retard "my enemy so better u shut up ...u cant play cause u have 0 friends here thats all...
i am funny guy? yes i am funny and dont need to proof anithing to a poor man that pass more time flaming in forums than real play.So plix stop answer with your bullsh1ts ..i dont need to proof anithing to u, like i said in aod forum several times: u are less than 0 for me.

reading red part i wanted already to stop, since saw that you know 0 about what i do, what i am, and so on, but.. decided to laugh till the end xD
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Weezer on January 11, 2012, 08:32:56 PM
Quote from: FIREBLADE on January 11, 2012, 04:20:17 PM
gm has proofs about my holy resistance and my post was for gm 100%...weezer i was not talkign about siege thats reason i didnt screen my attr too..this is costrucrive topic?ok im talking about believe me i have over 400 holy attr and dmg from anakim is huge and fast..this is not complain this is a fact..thats all..
awe i dont understand why if u not playing ,not living l2 u are here rly..u dont play and wants know more than ppl that plays?Wow !!what i can say u are rly great...i suggest u if u like forums to read only instead tell stupid things.Topics are for solve problems and i think this is thats all..do i asked any nerf?show me any post about my complaining about op chars or skills...then u open your mouth..

i made tests on anakim with my over 400 holy reist and damage from ee (with icarus +3 full holy ) is 2800 //3k....without get ANY debuff damage still that..reported to gm and he made tests too.

How i tested?? we have 3 in ally..so my discussion is not for siege and i close here.U free to answer all u want.

Im free for made all tests u want and show you my attribute resists..after u can talk like u did i think.
aniway i end here is useless talk when ppl take only bad part of your words..gl do what u want.

Ok, u tested with an EE, even considering that on Anakim we have have the same status there's a lot of things that r diff than me, so let's explain again:

- as a NE i play with +4 INT dyes i don't remember but i think EE can't add INT dyes
- i have +1 INT as aug on my IC+A+3 Full Holy
- i will consider the EE have Vesper Robe Set too (must be Llamame, so she have it)
- i have +3 INT (i think it's +3, need to check later) from wards, she don't have it
- i have a passive called Necromancy (Increases resistance to dark attacks and increases magic power) and EE don't have this skill.
- my Sigil Mastery (need to confirm, but as i remember it adds) adds M. Attack, EE Sigil Mastery don't add M. Attack

So i have +8 INT (+4 from Dyes, +1 from aug and +3 from wards) than Llamame and better Passive Skills than her, so i will make MORE DAMAGE than her with the same buffs, same equips and on same target.

She did 2,8/3k on u, ofc i will make more damage than her, as i explained before i have more INT and better passives than she have. If u wanna discuss about it we can do it, but show me some strong arguments about Anakim cause atm u just showed an eddited screen and some tests u did (without screens) with an EE that don't even have the same status as i have.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: cerebelo on January 11, 2012, 08:43:52 PM
was nice reading all this forum wars but....seriously now... this transform kills pvp

on last event in talking island village this transform killed our 2 parties on black screen after tp  .... this was shorter then 3 seconds ...that first tp in event zone became the last one also .... i think except the reward for CB it was really a nonsence event cause noone could  stand up there more then 3 seconds 
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: FIREBLADE on January 11, 2012, 08:50:21 PM
lool weez u just confirmed what i was saying..if ee gave me that dmg ofc u do more!!! we discuss about op anakim or not?i know about your wards  and int ofc u do that dmg but as i told u is not cause ppl doesnt have holy resist..is about power of that transform...i agree with u about u do more dmg ofc!;Dbut u see my wiew point?...dmg can be but u give 3 hits in 1,5 sec!!XDand almost without using mana;D u agree with me on that?no1 discussing about how to use it,who use better and who is more experienced..

if u read up i told thats op cause with even 400 attr u cant stand alive for more than 3 seconds..thats all..is not normal pvp^^
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: jygh on January 11, 2012, 09:18:19 PM
gideon tested anakim alrdy so u dont ve to explain nothing ppls lol he checked dmg/reuse/mana/heal and so and so so stop the wars lolz
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Weezer on January 11, 2012, 09:38:37 PM
Quote from: jygh on January 11, 2012, 09:18:19 PM
gideon tested anakim alrdy so u dont ve to explain nothing ppls lol he checked dmg/reuse/mana/heal and so and so so stop the wars lolz

I know he tested, but when i saw that he told that most of people on server don't have protection against Holy i rly start to think if the problem is Anakim or players... :D

Check on CB and u will find a lot of players that have protection against Holy cause we know that shit hits rly hard.

If i don't have protection against FIRE can i ask to nerf all SS too? xD

Quote from: FIREBLADE on January 11, 2012, 08:50:21 PM
lool weez u just confirmed what i was saying..if ee gave me that dmg ofc u do more!!! we discuss about op anakim or not?i know about your wards  and int ofc u do that dmg but as i told u is not cause ppl doesnt have holy resist..is about power of that transform...i agree with u about u do more dmg ofc!;Dbut u see my wiew point?...dmg can be but u give 3 hits in 1,5 sec!!XDand almost without using mana;D u agree with me on that?no1 discussing about how to use it,who use better and who is more experienced..

if u read up i told thats op cause with even 400 attr u cant stand alive for more than 3 seconds..thats all..is not normal pvp^^

Yes and now tell me 1 thing, IF Llamame is able to make 2,8/3k on a person with 400 of Holy Defense (as u claim u have) why u don't use it like we do?

It's simple Llamame is on FB (outside ally), if she use it in sieges she gonna kill CB and FTP at same time, if Nitopami gonna use it he gonna kill CB and BA, if MissViva gonna use it gonna kill CB and BA.

U have the same power than we have atm, and to tbh if those 3 players could use it in the same time u would be able to kill us rly rly fast.

The main point is that people is asking to nerf cause Anakim's on FTP can't be used the same way as we can use it, cut the crap about being OP or not, cause it's OP for both sides, we r not talking about something just 1 side HAVE IT, we talking about something just 1 side CAN USE IT.

If u can see on topic about GOK on clan section Felissin tells about problems with OL debuffs in ur ally, it's not the same, but it's similar to this point, so we also should ask to nerf OL debuffs? Ofc not, this problems happens the way ur ally works (3 diff clans and 1 Anakim outside those clans) and how our clan works (all in same clan, no problem with our Anakim killing us and no OL debuffs).

When i was on Yuuki (same ally with CB) with Weezer i killed CB on sieges and mass pvp too, so i joined then to prevent this problem. Why u can't invite Llamame in BA so she gonna be in ally and split ur sides when going to attack us? This way u wont die cause of ours Anakim's, is that hard to think on solutions about this? Ofc is easier to ask for nerf since u can't use properly and ur enemies can.

Imo the whole problem happens cause the way CB is atm is better to use Anakim and not have problems and the way u have on FTP creates a lot of problems to use it, cause Anakim is OP to all who have and atm u have more than us.

And about mana, anakim hits consumes mana, if u dont have people to recharge u when u using it soon u gonna be without mana, what dont use a lot of mana is the healing skill.
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: FIREBLADE on January 11, 2012, 11:19:36 PM
weez but do i said  we are better to use??where u read it?? who cares about using better or not or clan that ppl is in..im talking just about scroll...i play sps ee and dont play other chars and im not interested to "how ppl use theyr char".. why ppl dont use,cant use,use bad i dont care..just sothing is wrong and seems u wont admit it thats all..
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Weezer on January 12, 2012, 04:39:16 AM
Quote from: FIREBLADE on January 11, 2012, 11:19:36 PM
weez but do i said  we are better to use??where u read it?? who cares about using better or not or clan that ppl is in..im talking just about scroll...i play sps ee and dont play other chars and im not interested to "how ppl use theyr char".. why ppl dont use,cant use,use bad i dont care..just sothing is wrong and seems u wont admit it thats all..

Again u r wrong! I already said many times that Anakim is OP, but as i said is OP for all of us, CB and FTP. And also OP the way it was made. I have this scrool since HB times, same like Llamame and Nitopami and tbh it was OP before, but people used to have protection against Holy, cause in those times some SPS was playing with holy weapons (for holy nukes) instead of water weapons. And now cause of reuse of those nuke skills no SPS plays like that, and besides that there were few holy weapons on server now (some old bows and probably some swords too).

And guess what we had lower attribute on weapons and armors in that time too.

The point is that on CB a lot of us have protection against Holy, so it makes less damage than on ur people. Also since we r all in same clan we don't kill ally when we use it (read again what i told a lot of times, Llamame will kill whole FTP, MissViva and Nitopami gonna kill whole BA).

We died many times in past to Anakim too, used by Nitopami, Llamame and by myself too, when i wasn't on CB, when i was on Yuuki clan in a Aden siege i killed a lot of people from CB and Sheva cause i was in diff clan.

And another funny thing, since some people on FTP don't have protection against Holy on their sets we can play with some holy weapons and gonna make crazy damage in some targets.  ;)
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: BRexoo7 on January 12, 2012, 08:14:30 AM
And what else are FTP ppl missing? the 3rd ball? Maybe Gideon can check it and you'll believe it.


Where was your logic when kamael SD was nerfed? You couldn't make the same "buff thief" number like "others"? That skill was "killing the game", scrolls nowadays are just fine... For me is the same situation right now. A nerf was made in kamael issue and after a while ppl agreed with GMs. Even if you got that scroll through donations (special events like its called by Track), same was made with atributes. Like it or leave it. Some of us already took a decision, you can see the result on sieges.

Go on with this crap and you'll need to change clan in order to use that scroll again (since you can't hit own).



Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: jygh on January 12, 2012, 08:19:23 AM
Quote from: BRexoo7 on January 12, 2012, 08:14:30 AM
And what else are FTP ppl missing? the 3rd ball? Maybe Gideon can check it and you'll believe it.


Where was your logic when kamael SD was nerfed? You couldn't make the same "buff thief" number like "others"? That skill was "killing the game", scrolls nowadays are just fine... For me is the same situation right now. A nerf was made in kamael issue and after a while ppl agreed with GMs. Even if you got that scroll through donations (special events like its called by Track), same was made with atributes. Like it or leave it. Some of us already took a decision, you can see the result on sieges.

Go on with this crap and you'll need to change clan in order to use that scroll again (since you can't hit own).




oki now go  back to ur cave dude
Title: Re: TW bug / Anakim Transform
Post by: Gideon on January 13, 2012, 07:22:59 PM
Interesting point of view about this problem.

Anyway sry for the delay i was a bit busy this last week, i gonna send code to Track change some skills on Anakim.