yo guys .... i missed for some months ( actually logged 3-4 times only ) and my question abouat attr is :
last time when i got info about attr it was smth like : 540 attr atck - 180 attr def = 360 attr atk wich made attr def useless , was an attribute difference around 240 or smth that gave max attr damage , and that made useless 5 diferent atr def in armors
how it is now ?
back then we had somekind of table like :
1. 10 atr diference = +10% dmg
2. 100 attr diference = +25 % dmg
3. 240 attr diference = +!00 % dmg
can eu pls post a link if there is an info about this or just teach me pls exactly the values ... ty
PS : skipp the buffs attr..... i know that
Quote from: cerebelo on April 06, 2012, 08:30:03 AM
yo guys .... i missed for some months ( actually logged 3-4 times only ) and my question abouat attr is :
last time when i got info about attr it was smth like : 540 attr atck - 180 attr def = 360 attr atk wich made attr def useless , was an attribute difference around 240 or smth that gave max attr damage , and that made useless 5 diferent atr def in armors
how it is now ?
back then we had somekind of table like :
1. 10 atr diference = +10% dmg
2. 100 attr diference = +25 % dmg
3. 240 attr diference = +!00 % dmg
can eu pls post a link if there is an info about this or just teach me pls exactly the values ... ty
PS : skipp the buffs attr..... i know that
shouldnt it be:
300 att difference = +50% damage
0 att difference = +0% damage
and you just count it by line
im not sure any1 can answer you about those question
even if some knew, why share it with others ... unfortunate, but true
can be something like this:
(http://www.lineage2universe.com/images/attribute-system/attribute-system-breakpoints-pre-freya.png)
But since this its a "diferent" server i dunno if the dmg curve its like the one above
Quote from: Hefestus on April 07, 2012, 11:42:43 AM
even if some knew, why share it with others ... unfortunate, but true
someone must know ..... and why share ? ... good question , bud the point is GM should post the info cause i wanna play knowing how things should work .... this attribute knowledge is a MUST .... why must be kept secret ? all ppl must have acces to this info in equal ways ... some time ago there was a very good topic in dragon section , but it doesn't work like that anymore
all i need is the gap between attr attk and attr defence where u deal max dmg
we get allkind of advices from players that max attr in one piece of armor is big deal ... but i think that having 180 attr defence+attr buffs and songs with 5 different atr is really a wrong move
Quote from: zenice on April 07, 2012, 12:12:42 PM
can be something like this:
But since this its a "diferent" server i dunno if the dmg curve its like the one above
it worked smth like that with dmg brakepoints before gracia but only in pve ...... in pvp the dmg was linear increasing not with brakepoints
ty anyway ... lf some concludent info , especialy from GM since we have custom attr system
Quote from: cerebelo on April 07, 2012, 01:21:37 PM
someone must know ..... and why share ? ... good question , bud the point is GM should post the info cause i wanna play knowing how things should work .... this attribute knowledge is a MUST .... why must be kept secret ? all ppl must have acces to this info in equal ways ... some time ago there was a very good topic in dragon section , but it doesn't work like that anymore
all i need is the gap between attr attk and attr defence where u deal max dmg
we get allkind of advices from players that max attr in one piece of armor is big deal ... but i think that having 180 attr defence+attr buffs and songs with 5 different atr is really a wrong move
actually game mechanicks are not meant to be given, GMs can, but must not give them.
all those breakpoint graphics were made by players tests
if you want to know current breakpoint curve, simply make tests from 0 to 540, i doubt someone made tests after 450-540 introduction for whole curve. but even on 450 difference, at gracia start, bonus was over 300%
Quote from: flamingAwe on April 07, 2012, 03:34:20 PM
actually game mechanicks are not meant to be given, GMs can, but must not give them.
all those breakpoint graphics were made by players tests
if you want to know current breakpoint curve, simply make tests from 0 to 540, i doubt someone made tests after 450-540 introduction for whole curve. but even on 450 difference, at gracia start, bonus was over 300%
i was waiting for your reply ;D
give me some more pls ;D :-* :-* :-*( hope it doesn't sound too gay )
anyway this 300% explains alot ... should it be like this ?
Quote from: cerebelo on April 07, 2012, 04:59:01 PM
i was waiting for your reply ;D
give me some more pls ;D :-* :-* :-*( hope it doesn't sound too gay )
anyway this 300% explains alot ... should it be like this ?
on off max attr is still 300, so "should?" part can't be answered xD
below 300 there is a pic in topic, above - dunno if anyone made full test, on gracia start 300-449 was same, 450 - better bonus, in 540 i'm not playing :P
i got 3 answers :
hefestus : 300 attr diference = 50% dmg bonus
zenice : 300 attr diference = 100 % dmg bonus
awe : 300 attr difference = 300 % dmg bonus :o
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Quote from: cerebelo on April 08, 2012, 10:02:48 AM
hefestus : 300 attr diference = 50% dmg bonus
zenice : 300 attr diference = 100 % dmg bonus
awe : 300 attr difference = 300 % dmg bonus :o
Quote from: cerebelo on April 08, 2012, 10:02:48 AM
zenice : 300 attr diference = 100 % dmg bonus
awe : 300 attr difference = 300 % dmg bonus :o
i didn't say this, i sayd 450 diff over 300% bonus
Quote from: cerebelo on April 08, 2012, 10:02:48 AM
i got 3 answers :
hefestus : 300 attr diference = 50% dmg bonus
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
it should be like that originally, but on our server you cant say it is true
i wolud rather pick 100% but real tests should be done ... only on arena, only between players
moreover, if you have skill enchanted on ATT damage, you should add proper ATT bonus to that
propably you should test with few weapons, for exp: 0 ATT, 100 ATT, 200 ATT, .... 540 ATT hitting char with no ATT in armor
[a) test new weapon while making from 0 to 540]
then same tests with armor defence: 50, 100, 150, 200, 240, 300, 400, 500 (+ buff)
[b) put ATT to armor with at least 2 same ATT parts of the set]
testing is about 20-40 tries with 1 ATT number
if you do this, we should pay some coins for the results :)
it is difficult, that is why only few made some tries
Quote from: cerebelo on April 06, 2012, 08:30:03 AM
yo guys .... i missed for some months ( actually logged 3-4 times only ) and my question abouat attr is :
last time when i got info about attr it was smth like : 540 attr atck - 180 attr def = 360 attr atk wich made attr def useless , was an attribute difference around 240 or smth that gave max attr damage , and that made useless 5 diferent atr def in armors
how it is now ?
back then we had somekind of table like :
1. 10 atr diference = +10% dmg
2. 100 attr diference = +25 % dmg
3. 240 attr diference = +!00 % dmg
can eu pls post a link if there is an info about this or just teach me pls exactly the values ... ty
PS : skipp the buffs attr..... i know that
Drake had re-written the whole attr. system way before the 540 atr. was implemented. All pre-/post Freya curves are useless, do some tests with a mage or wait for Track to give you an update.
All I can tell you is with 'that' update, max. dmg from atr. was +50%.