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Title: Smart Cubic
Post by: LUDPSIHOPAT on April 09, 2012, 12:48:46 PM
Hello ppl How Smart Cubic Work in NM ? Its same like on dragon ? ty for info
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: PolSilv3r on April 09, 2012, 01:01:06 PM
Quote from: LUDPSIHOPAT on April 09, 2012, 12:48:46 PM
Hello ppl How Smart Cubic Work in NM ? Its same like on dragon ? ty for info

And how does it work on Dragon? :P
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: ^ShowStopper^ on April 09, 2012, 01:42:12 PM
SKILL SMART CUBIC IS SAME ON BOTH SERVERS

THE SKILL WORK CORRECTLY , BEFORE OF THE FIX IT WORKED 100% CHANCE AND REMOVED 5 DEBUFF

NOW WORK 80% CHANCE AND REMOVE RANDOM MAX 3 BUFF

LIKE WORKED BEFORE WAS UNFAIR

Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: MegaZord on April 09, 2012, 01:48:27 PM
Unfair? Ncsoft made it like this so why unfair? U think u better then ncosft coders?
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: SauroN on April 09, 2012, 01:52:02 PM
Dunno but on Dragon is sh1t atm. Before was much better.
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: PolSilv3r on April 09, 2012, 01:58:36 PM
TBH with or without Cubics I see no difference at all...
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: ForgotPass on April 09, 2012, 02:10:07 PM
unfair? someone is jealous not having Smart Cubic on his char...

Noone ever complained on NM about the cubic, but thanks to you its works like shiat now.
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: DreamEater on April 09, 2012, 02:14:43 PM
Quote from: ForgotPass on April 09, 2012, 02:10:07 PM
unfair? someone is jealous not having Smart Cubic on his char...

Noone ever complained on NM about the cubic, but thanks to you its works like shiat now.
NERF HIM MOAR!
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: garikUA on April 09, 2012, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: ShowStopper on April 09, 2012, 01:42:12 PM
SKILL SMART CUBIC IS SAME ON BOTH SERVERS

THE SKILL WORK CORRECTLY , BEFORE OF THE FIX IT WORKED 100% CHANCE AND REMOVED 5 DEBUFF

NOW WORK 80% CHANCE AND REMOVE RANDOM MAX 3 BUFF

LIKE WORKED BEFORE WAS UNFAIR


its ur mind?
or some1 tell u this sh1t?
p.s. sad its will be us GM
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Sephiroth on April 09, 2012, 02:34:28 PM
Well I don't see why it's unfair but I hope Track don't accept any of those childish nerfs u made on Dragon otherwise many ppl will leave. We'r used to a more or less good GM, not that shit from Dragon.
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: cthon on April 09, 2012, 02:35:24 PM
Quote from: ShowStopper on April 09, 2012, 01:42:12 PM
SKILL SMART CUBIC IS SAME ON BOTH SERVERS

THE SKILL WORK CORRECTLY , BEFORE OF THE FIX IT WORKED 100% CHANCE AND REMOVED 5 DEBUFF

NOW WORK 80% CHANCE AND REMOVE RANDOM MAX 3 BUFF

LIKE WORKED BEFORE WAS UNFAIR



your IQ is definitely a negative value, fuking prick..
unfair was for this world the moment u borned
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Gonzal on April 09, 2012, 02:54:10 PM
Quote from: ShowStopper on April 09, 2012, 01:42:12 PM
SKILL SMART CUBIC IS SAME ON BOTH SERVERS

THE SKILL WORK CORRECTLY , BEFORE OF THE FIX IT WORKED 100% CHANCE AND REMOVED 5 DEBUFF

NOW WORK 80% CHANCE AND REMOVE RANDOM MAX 3 BUFF

LIKE WORKED BEFORE WAS UNFAIR


Its unfair only for 1 combo (tank) but for the summoners? oh i see... they are a dead class
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: GhostSlayer on April 09, 2012, 02:58:07 PM
Quote from: MegaZord on April 09, 2012, 01:48:27 PM
Unfair? Ncsoft made it like this so why unfair? U think u better then ncosft coders?
+1
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Peorexo on April 09, 2012, 03:27:20 PM
Yes it was such unfair that only this was keeping some class alive... imo cancel isnt op when each 10s i lost 5buffs or debuff landrate with 4k mdef and mental shield and other protections? (around 12 debuffs avaiable to get in under 1 min in siege) come on its even not 80% right now, in oly im able to run full fight in full debuffs all the time so dont tell BS to us... In pvp what happen? i got few seals and i need to wait 5min till them end cuz cubic went on holidays ...
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: zenice on April 09, 2012, 03:33:37 PM
Quote from: ShowStopper on April 09, 2012, 01:42:12 PM
SKILL SMART CUBIC IS SAME ON BOTH SERVERS

THE SKILL WORK CORRECTLY , BEFORE OF THE FIX IT WORKED 100% CHANCE AND REMOVED 5 DEBUFF

NOW WORK 80% CHANCE AND REMOVE RANDOM MAX 3 BUFF

LIKE WORKED BEFORE WAS UNFAIR

(http://s19.postimage.org/6kcpefs9v/18149024.jpg)
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Di on April 09, 2012, 04:07:49 PM
OFC is unfair, he play as tanker not summoner ^^   

If piccy was ban hammer, Glasy is NERF hammer! and tanker/bp got plus..

:D
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Triuferkkk on April 09, 2012, 04:17:26 PM
doesnt matter if tanker, summoner or w/e YOU JUST FUKED UP THAT CUBIC, this is how supose to work remove all debuffs and with 100% not 80% chance, maybe nerf cleanse cuz is 100% and reuse is  even better than cubic had before, nerf touch of life too, you wont get any debuff while having it on, reuse is nice +15 on time give you almost nonstop tol
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: LUDPSIHOPAT on April 09, 2012, 04:55:45 PM
So in NM work on 100 % ty for info on Dragon ofc you know how work and see that is not fair :)
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Blind on April 09, 2012, 05:03:23 PM
Quote from: Peorexo on April 09, 2012, 03:27:20 PM
Yes it was such unfair that only this was keeping some class alive... imo cancel isnt op when each 10s i lost 5buffs or debuff landrate with 4k mdef and mental shield and other protections? (around 12 debuffs avaiable to get in under 1 min in siege) come on its even not 80% right now, in oly im able to run full fight in full debuffs all the time so dont tell BS to us... In pvp what happen? i got few seals and i need to wait 5min till them end cuz cubic went on holidays ...
Cancel is not depends on mental res. value, or m. attck sry :D
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Peorexo on April 09, 2012, 05:27:35 PM
Quote from: mr_Facke on April 09, 2012, 05:03:23 PM
Cancel is not depends on mental res. value, or m. attck sry :D

With mdef and resist i was talking about debuffs (in total even +0 have better landrate that +++)
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: lUterusl on April 09, 2012, 06:33:34 PM
Quote from: ShowStopper on April 09, 2012, 01:42:12 PM
SKILL SMART CUBIC IS SAME ON BOTH SERVERS

THE SKILL WORK CORRECTLY , BEFORE OF THE FIX IT WORKED 100% CHANCE AND REMOVED 5 DEBUFF

NOW WORK 80% CHANCE AND REMOVE RANDOM MAX 3 BUFF

LIKE WORKED BEFORE WAS UNFAIR


And the London is a capital of Great Britain....
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: KrdO on April 09, 2012, 06:39:47 PM
Quote from: LUDPSIHOPAT on April 09, 2012, 04:55:45 PM
So in NM work on 100 % ty for info on Dragon ofc you know how work and see that is not fair :)

in nm isnt working 100% atm, now is sh1t cubic
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: PolSilv3r on April 09, 2012, 10:54:06 PM
Quote from: LUDPSIHOPAT on April 09, 2012, 04:55:45 PM
So in NM work on 100 % ty for info on Dragon ofc you know how work and see that is not fair :)

It doesn't work at all !
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Di on April 10, 2012, 12:36:17 PM
we dont have smart cube, we have glasy cube atm...
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Peorexo on April 10, 2012, 12:47:45 PM
Quote from: PolSilv3r on April 09, 2012, 10:54:06 PM
It doesn't work at all !
It only gives effect similar to heal what exaclty do nothing, so yup better use other cubic instead of this sh!t
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: lucifsg on April 11, 2012, 12:04:45 AM
i dont know about smart qubic but a lot of skills dont work as they should for ages...
like spell turning never landing , infernal form saying it gives 20 att pts and 10 def but gives double , zealot increasing at 80% or more (try 99%) of limit for debuffs while it should increase 80% of players own ressist value , angelic icon the same while it should increase just 40% players value, bash's insane land rate while archers stun hardly lands , switch , trick and many more...
but who gives a fack about em ...
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: mrialinda on April 11, 2012, 01:20:38 AM
atracktive cubic also dont work since gracia :S
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Locus on April 11, 2012, 09:59:39 AM
Quote from: lucifsg on April 11, 2012, 12:04:45 AM
i dont know about smart qubic but a lot of skills dont work as they should for ages...
like spell turning never landing , infernal form saying it gives 20 att pts and 10 def but gives double  , zealot increasing at 80% or more (try 99%) of limit for debuffs while it should increase 80% of players own ressist value , angelic icon the same while it should increase just 40% players value, bash's insane land rate while archers stun hardly lands , switch , trick and many more...
but who gives a fack about em ...
and ofc you havent noticed that  YOUR pp resists buffs give double aswell ?? :D
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: MegaZord on April 11, 2012, 10:15:42 AM
Not only pp resists give double. Same se/ee. We have values from gracia epiloque if i am not wrong. And its made coz of our atribute system.
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Peorexo on April 11, 2012, 02:57:54 PM
Quote from: lucifsg on April 11, 2012, 12:04:45 AM
i dont know about smart qubic but a lot of skills dont work as they should for ages...
like spell turning never landing , infernal form saying it gives 20 att pts and 10 def but gives double , zealot increasing at 80% or more (try 99%) of limit for debuffs while it should increase 80% of players own ressist value , angelic icon the same while it should increase just 40% players value, bash's insane land rate while archers stun hardly lands , switch , trick and many more...
but who gives a fack about em ...
Spell turning should cancel magic casting skill, but didnt tested so mby u right,
Buffs for atr works well gm noticed it that it gives 2x than normal
Zealot gives 80% resist hmm i think it work fine (but srsly rly hard to debuff orc on it but look orcs have many toggles too)
AI has too fast reuse in my opinion, in oly there is possibility to have AI then FI then use 1-2 ud's and again use AI (come on...)
Shield Bash have high land rate but land on 2 sec, and its off like (i think)
Switch Trick dont land becouse its 74 skill max and players have 85lvl, and when we add mental shields... just dont work (same on off)
Smart Cubic also dont work (This month i made 50+ fights, when maybe in one i got cleansed 1 debuff... COME ON let it work a bit)
Vampiric Claw enchanted on ATR gives more attribute points like on buff, and it should work like that it should only gives exaclty with that skills when its in use.
Shield of Revenge, Counter Attack still bugged it gives 2x dmg based by patk of opponent (try hit he/da by dagger u'll got 2x for 3k+ gl)
Shadow Step is casting skill, and it should work immedialy (used, teleported not waiting time but about that im not sure )
And about guard stance mana consumption... i know its prolly supposed to work like this, but becouse we have substack and its one of the most important sklls on sk/tk which rly makes they are tanks, that consumption should be lowered a bit to make it worthy here...
Also i think UE didnt give that 40% physical skil evasion, its only increase evasion and increase dmg which we receive...

And please check some mage/tanks passives if it works well cuz its a bit annoying when dagger on death whisper, focus death, vicious stance, standing in back of tank/mage (w/o ud's cuz normal buffs in oly) got backstab for 600dmg xD (and im hitting pure tanks like pal/pp higher lol !)

Dont remember any other issues atm... take a look please
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: lucifsg on April 11, 2012, 07:16:46 PM
omg man all ur post is "in my opinion" and "i think"
QuoteZealot gives 80% resist hmm i think it work fine (but srsly rly hard to debuff orc on it but look orcs have many toggles too)

did u read what im saying ? it should give 80% of players current value not 80% of max possible value. Toggles ? XD

QuoteAI has too fast reuse in my opinion, in oly there is possibility to have AI then FI then use 1-2 ud's and again use AI (come on...)

ai and zealot have same reuse. so makes me wonder why u ask nerf ai reuse time but not zealot... u can use tol same time as they reuse ai, why u dont ask for that to be nerfed ?

QuoteShield Bash have high land rate but land on 2 sec, and its off like (i think)
spell tuning has same land time. why it doesnt land ? and u said ... u think, its not as on off

QuoteSwitch Trick dont land becouse its 74 skill max and players have 85lvl, and when we add mental shields... just dont work (same on off)
when we add mental shields ... XD cant listen to this bs... what do u think every skill is mental attack just cause u get a mental shield and believe u ll ressist anything. so every skill from 74 doesnt work ? silence ? stun ? gloom ? surrenders ?

QuoteVampiric Claw enchanted on ATR gives more attribute points like on buff, and it should work like that it should only gives exaclty with that skills when its in use.
cant even understand what ur trying to say but its tested by gideon and its offi like

QuoteShadow Step is casting skill, and it should work immedialy (used, teleported not waiting time but about that im not sure )
why u mention it since ur not sure?

QuoteAlso i think UE didnt give that 40% physical skil evasion, its only increase evasion and increase dmg which we receive...
u think again ...

com on revell the entire post is like "make me stronger in oly"



Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: lucifsg on April 11, 2012, 07:20:09 PM
Quote from: Locus on April 11, 2012, 09:59:39 AM
and ofc you havent noticed that  YOUR pp resists buffs give double aswell ?? :D

no i didnt enlight me pls . which ressist buff cause i didnt see any? go read here before u answer http://base.l2j.ru/index.php?p=27&t=1
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Peorexo on April 11, 2012, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: lucifsg on April 11, 2012, 07:16:46 PM
omg man all ur post is "in my opinion" and "i think"
did u read what im saying ? it should give 80% of players current value not 80% of max possible value. Toggles ? XD

ai and zealot have same reuse. so makes me wonder why u ask nerf ai reuse time but not zealot... u can use tol same time as they reuse ai, why u dont ask for that to be nerfed ?

spell tuning has same land time. why it doesnt land ? and u said ... u think, its not as on off
when we add mental shields ... XD cant listen to this bs... what do u think every skill is mental attack just cause u get a mental shield and believe u ll ressist anything. so every skill from 74 doesnt work ? silence ? stun ? gloom ? surrenders ?
cant even understand what ur trying to say but its tested by gideon and its offi like
  why u mention it since ur not sure?
u think again ...

com on revell the entire post is like "make me stronger in oly"
Okey start again, zealot have same reuse like ai okey, but zealot dont give +50% pdef/mdef and its not making char srsly OP,

If ai could be nerfed ONLY TOGETHER with TOL, okey i dont care for sure, i use it once or even dont use at all,

Go log th/pp, use trick/switch it will cancel half or more times ur target, then use mental shield... fun over
And prolly u dont know but every 3 enchants ur skil have "level up" so +30 silence - 85lvl debuff

About shadow step i got wrong info, it work like it should sry ;)
And about make me stronger in oly, guess why no1 play this char, speed cap, evasion dont work, cubic nerfed, weakest dmg from all daggers, im not faster anymore, if i use UE i got ass kicked twice faster than w/o it, so?
I just want to have my skills work like they should, same as u.

Edit: about buffs.. all buffs which including increasing attack/defense attribute gives 2x more, so elemental protection give 40 atr instead of 20, but infernal form gives also 2x more, same with eva will, pain of shilien and others
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Cookie Monster on April 12, 2012, 09:02:19 AM
Quote from: ShowStopper on April 09, 2012, 01:42:12 PM
SKILL SMART CUBIC IS SAME ON BOTH SERVERS

THE SKILL WORK CORRECTLY , BEFORE OF THE FIX IT WORKED 100% CHANCE AND REMOVED 5 DEBUFF

NOW WORK 80% CHANCE AND REMOVE RANDOM MAX 3 BUFF

LIKE WORKED BEFORE WAS UNFAIR

Turn Caps off...Stop shouting...behave.
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: violetpl on April 12, 2012, 09:41:17 AM
Quote from: Peorexo on April 11, 2012, 07:43:54 PM
Okey start again, zealot have same reuse like ai okey, but zealot dont give +50% pdef/mdef and its not making char srsly OP,

If ai could be nerfed ONLY TOGETHER with TOL, okey i dont care for sure, i use it once or even dont use at all,

Go log th/pp, use trick/switch it will cancel half or more times ur target, then use mental shield... fun over
And prolly u dont know but every 3 enchants ur skil have "level up" so +30 silence - 85lvl debuff

About shadow step i got wrong info, it work like it should sry ;)
And about make me stronger in oly, guess why no1 play this char, speed cap, evasion dont work, cubic nerfed, weakest dmg from all daggers, im not faster anymore, if i use UE i got ass kicked twice faster than w/o it, so?
I just want to have my skills work like they should, same as u.

Edit: about buffs.. all buffs which including increasing attack/defense attribute gives 2x more, so elemental protection give 40 atr instead of 20, but infernal form gives also 2x more, same with eva will, pain of shilien and others

85 lvl start  from +28
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: PvtStuka on April 12, 2012, 01:30:12 PM
Quote from: lucifsg on April 11, 2012, 07:20:09 PM
no i didnt enlight me pls . which ressist buff cause i didnt see any? go read here before u answer http://base.l2j.ru/index.php?p=27&t=1

Resist fire, resist water, resist wind, unholy protection, holy protection, probably elemental protection too. And it is ok! (yes I am a weak pp :P )
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Phonex on April 12, 2012, 09:36:20 PM
Smart cubic is not so much smart ehhhh?? xD hahaah jk xD 8)
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Blizzer on April 13, 2012, 12:16:40 AM
Seems like it's working on Dragon. My shield slam landed twice in a row and was removed by cubic in less than 5 sec (fought with SK).
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Kastro on April 13, 2012, 12:40:58 AM
Quote from: Peorexo on April 11, 2012, 02:57:54 PM

And please check some mage/tanks passives if it works well cuz its a bit annoying when dagger on death whisper, focus death, vicious stance, standing in back of tank/mage (w/o ud's cuz normal buffs in oly) got backstab for 600dmg xD (and im hitting pure tanks like pal/pp higher lol !)



Damn i want see that how u hit pal/pp higher dmg then mage/tank {when will see that mirical i will start playing saddami again } 

p,s: try dont use focus dead vs that mages coz i bealive u are not able to hit them in beck :)
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Peorexo on April 13, 2012, 03:36:19 PM
Quote from: Kastro on April 13, 2012, 12:40:58 AM
Damn i want see that how u hit pal/pp higher dmg then mage/tank {when will see that mirical i will start playing saddami again } 

p,s: try dont use focus dead vs that mages coz i bealive u are not able to hit them in beck :)
Okey hit on LuciInside PP/DA on back on focus death with vicious stance - 550 with backstab GL
Hit on HarleyDavidson PAL/PP on back w/o focus death w/o vicious stance 650 with backstab...
Best hit on harley which i made was around 1.2k with f.death and vicious on back when he hadn't ai :)
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Kastro on April 13, 2012, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: Peorexo on April 13, 2012, 03:36:19 PM
Okey hit on LuciInside PP/DA on back on focus death with vicious stance - 550 with backstab GL
Hit on HarleyDavidson PAL/PP on back w/o focus death w/o vicious stance 650 with backstab...
Best hit on harley which i made was around 1.2k with f.death and vicious on back when he hadn't ai :)

is attribut  difrents  luci for sure have it full ressit vs u  in outher hand  harley around 300-350  ressit so there u go ..  damn malaka i touth u know about this thinks :)
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Peorexo on April 13, 2012, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: Kastro on April 13, 2012, 03:55:53 PM
is attribut  difrents  luci for sure have it full ressit vs u  in outher hand  harley around 300-350  ressit so there u go ..  damn malaka i touth u know about this thinks :)
i know but 50% reduction from hvy armor say enough...

edit: anyway even with full resists smth wrong here, in times when they weren't any atr, dagger never hit mages so sux... atm 150 blow in face...
Title: Re: Smart Cubic
Post by: Phonex on April 15, 2012, 03:28:04 AM
A lot of QQ has been done about mage/tanks but gm never have time to check, we have even nice bugs like "vengeance" use the skill and try to remove from buffs with alt+click, and it wont move, it will just say something like "only enhanced skills can be remove", try with other UD's and u can remove all",  but well, we have some rbs bugged, skills bugged, places bugged, but what would be of life with out buggs? xD hehehe