Hello after a few years break 8) I have one question about dwarfs: will be possible (only) make sub like Bounty Hunter/Warsmith or Warsmith/Bounty Hunter or will be possible make substack on retail class for example: Main class: Bounty Hunter - Substack retail: Hawkeye/Warlock?
No dwarf mutants . Pls read rules , it has pictures and is not that long as it seems (u can read it just in 1 language, no need read all xD )
Which mean dwarf = blunt and no dagers :)
Quote from: Saboteur on December 26, 2013, 02:29:58 PM
No dwarf mutants . Pls read rules , it has pictures and is not that long as it seems (u can read it just in 1 language, no need read all xD )
Which mean dwarf = blunt and no dagers :)
Did you read my question? I do not ask about mutants on main. I ask about possible sublcass. If there will be only one option, dwarfs will be useless ><
Quote from: Oo on December 26, 2013, 02:33:44 PM
Did you read my question? I do not ask about mutants on main. I ask about possible sublcass. If there will be only one option, dwarfs will be useless ><
let me explain you .... you are spoiler .. u exp to whatever level for subclass needed .. and then u have horn . You can only chose spoil/crafter or crafter/spoiler . No spoiler /destro no spoiler/tyrant no crafter/phantom sumoner ... . is that what u ask for ? if yes then .. did u read my answer ? :)
Quote from: Saboteur on December 26, 2013, 02:35:16 PM
let me explain you .... you are spoiler .. u exp to whatever level for subclass needed .. and then u have horn . You can only chose spoil/crafter or crafter/spoiler . No spoiler /destro no spoiler/tyrant no crafter/phantom sumoner ... . is that what u ask for ? if yes then .. did u read my answer ? :)
Edited my 1st post bcs some ppl did not understand the problem/question.
Quote from: Oo on December 26, 2013, 02:38:58 PM
Edited my 1st post bcs some ppl did not understand the problem/question.
Hello,
There will be no mutant anymore. You can sub only with classes that you made. Example: you make th/xx (where xx is class of human because you started as TH aka human race ) and on retail if you make (for example) sps you can choose, as sub, only a class from elf race. Main announce about topic is changed to proper information too.
Best Regards
Quote from: Oo on December 26, 2013, 02:38:58 PM
Edited my 1st post bcs some ppl did not understand the problem/question.
Now it is clear . Nexttime jsut say retail/retail sub :P . And no idea .. but since this sound "not mutant" i would say its allowed :P No other answers to this topic :) Cheers
modif too late meh qq
Quote from: ^Xarion^ on December 26, 2013, 02:40:35 PM
Hello,
There will be no mutant anymore. You can sub only with classes that you made. Example: you make th/xx (where xx is class of human because you started as TH aka human race ) and on retail if you make (for example) sps you can choose, as sub, only a class from elf race.
Best Regards
So for dwarfs only spoiler/crafter (crafter/spoiler) on main and every possible retail class substacked (like he/wk in dwarf skin).
Quote from: Oo on December 26, 2013, 02:49:18 PM
So for dwarfs only spoiler/crafter (crafter/spoiler) on main and every possible retail class substacked (like he/wk in dwarf skin).
Yes.
Quote from: Oo on December 26, 2013, 02:49:18 PM
So for dwarfs only spoiler/crafter (crafter/spoiler) on main and every possible retail class substacked (like he/wk in dwarf skin).
Just add, there will be some nice events for dwarfies only, i totally dont want this race to be forgotten!
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 26, 2013, 02:53:54 PM
Just add, there will be some nice events for dwarfies only, i totally dont want this race to be forgotten!
ppl will allways remember dwarfs , when they will shout !wtb ews
Hi all,
I dont want to be pessimist or something, but imho this will just make dwarves more useless than they already are.
Its known there are few players that play with dwarves as main characters (like me), and almost all the dwarves you can find in a server are just crafters or spoilers of a clan or main character.
This sub class thing will turn dwarves "like" the AIO buffers, a single character that you can keep logged just for specifical function, in this case craft/spoil and for those "special events" (where you will transfer any gift/price to your main character, and then just log out and continue as usual).
You will suddently see dwarves everywhere when this "special events" are about to start, and after that, just shops, crafting dwarves and probably bots spoiling...
Now I will have to see what to do if I want to join a party for a RB, PvP, siege etc... Im not saying that you cant do a RB or PvP as dwarf, but c´mon, ppl prefer nukers or tanks instead of a fatty dwarf in partys.
Even though I understand that this makes easier the lives of those players that dont use and dont want to depend in dwarves to get their stuff, I insist that this will just make dwarves more useless than they already are. I guess that I will have to content myself with those special events.
As I said, this is just an opinion, and will try to join this server to see how it works, obviously as a dwarf ;)
PD: very nice this idea of making an old school server, couse retail sucks, thats not L2 anymore.
And sorry for my bad english, any problem just write a PM in spanish or italian to see what we can do ;)
Hmm, if I understand everything right...
You can make retail on dwarf sps/ee for example... It'll be again same lvl as main class with all skills, right?
If so, you can easy go with dwarf to sieges/pvp like sps/ee and go farm as spoil/craft. Believe me in IL my dwarf killed alone rly easy almost all kind of mobs. Is a good pole/blunt user anyway and isn't such a useless and harmless char... :)
Quote from: Vengeance on December 27, 2013, 07:07:28 AM
Hmm, if I understand everything right...
You can make retail on dwarf sps/ee for example... It'll be again same lvl as main class with all skills, right?
Hello,
Yes.
Dwarven chars are must have for every player. Do i have to remind you about thst they can spoil? That they can craft? Their importance on sieges is virtual too! Speaking of it , i will write you later new siege expirience you will feel when sieging for the 1st time.
Quote from: Vittorioso on December 27, 2013, 04:20:01 AM
Hi all,
I dont want to be pessimist or something, but imho this will just make dwarves more useless than they already are.
Its known there are few players that play with dwarves as main characters (like me), and almost all the dwarves you can find in a server are just crafters or spoilers of a clan or main character.
This sub class thing will turn dwarves "like" the AIO buffers, a single character that you can keep logged just for specifical function, in this case craft/spoil and for those "special events" (where you will transfer any gift/price to your main character, and then just log out and continue as usual).
You will suddently see dwarves everywhere when this "special events" are about to start, and after that, just shops, crafting dwarves and probably bots spoiling...
Now I will have to see what to do if I want to join a party for a RB, PvP, siege etc... Im not saying that you cant do a RB or PvP as dwarf, but c´mon, ppl prefer nukers or tanks instead of a fatty dwarf in partys.
Even though I understand that this makes easier the lives of those players that dont use and dont want to depend in dwarves to get their stuff, I insist that this will just make dwarves more useless than they already are. I guess that I will have to content myself with those special events.
As I said, this is just an opinion, and will try to join this server to see how it works, obviously as a dwarf ;)
PD: very nice this idea of making an old school server, couse retail sucks, thats not L2 anymore.
And sorry for my bad english, any problem just write a PM in spanish or italian to see what we can do ;)
Dwarvens become daggerers (skils and lethals and all the kind of think which makin us lazy when we lose it) in Gracia if i am right (if i am not , then i dont rly care, just saying C4-HB they been just wooden stick holders) and iam prety sure , ppl wont want ANY dwafr on RB partys , cuz their dmg will suck ballz ,as it shuld be .
2 boxes = dwarf + suport AND HERE IT COMES -> + FRIEND OR CLANMATE (yes i know is almost unbelievable)
Interlude dwarfs are weak pity fat noobs , but they can spoil :) Enjoy the game finaly.. u dont have to (proly cant even) under those rules stay alone in the game :)
Dont change way of dwarfs .. morelike let us know about bizon totem , other totems + 2h :P
ty/de coming back into its glory or stays broken ? :)
Quote from: Oo on December 26, 2013, 02:23:32 PM
Hello after a few years break 8) I have one question about dwarfs: will be possible (only) make sub like Bounty Hunter/Warsmith or Warsmith/Bounty Hunter or will be possible make substack on retail class for example: Main class: Bounty Hunter - Substack retail: Hawkeye/Warlock?
Yes, its will be good for dwarfs =) But: No mutants is for all i think. =/
Hi,
Did I understood correctly?
Example:
Dwarf
1. Main class - Warsmith/BountyHunter
2. Subclass - He/wk
3. Subclass - Destro/Wc
4. Subclass - Sps/ee
Possible or not?
P.S. This is not a mutant. This a retail dwarf possibilties as on official.
P.S.s. Most of other servers offer this...
Yes, it's possible.
Quote from: Oo on December 26, 2013, 02:23:32 PM
Hello after a few years break 8) I have one question about dwarfs: will be possible (only) make sub like Bounty Hunter/Warsmith or Warsmith/Bounty Hunter or will be possible make substack on retail class for example: Main class: Bounty Hunter - Substack retail: Hawkeye/Warlock?
yes u can. Rest ppl dont read good your post.
U can have 4 main in 1 char but sub what u take must be from race what u got on retail
example :
u start as spoil, then u make sub craft and u are poil/craft.
retail glad and sub from humans classes